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PA: It's almost impossible to stand up and speak the truth in Iskcon as you don't want to loose your spiritual family and community and friends and guru. Saying no thanks ... I'm doing it my way will see you get turfed out and sent packing after they have separated you and your identity from the whole of ISKCON society at large ... by demonizing you and all of Krishna's creation that He has created for everyone. They make sure you are a team player for the false guru game, or you are out nickety splits.
Iskcon religion does not have your highest welfare at heart of giving you all the knowledge for free no strings attached as is the duty of every single spiritual master. Krishna is not for sale.
Krishna consciousness is the action of Karma yoga doing your duty according to your nature ... not artificial renunciation, not being sectarian, not being a money making slave, or even a sex slave of the pedophilles running some of their despotic temple gulag camps -- paid for with opulence for the leaders, and side benefits of gulabs and rasgulas to keep up the Ponzi scheme.
Every single person that stands up and speaks their personal realisations and understanding of Krishna consciousness makes a massive difference. Krishna consciousness is not parrot consciousness of drone strike conversion therapy.
Kidnappings and forcing people with starvation and beatings to fully surrender ... or else maybe we will kill you ... is not how you demonstrate the Sadhana Bhakti process. And none of this is exaggeration and is my own direct experience of Iskcon family and leadership and I'm not an isolated special case.
Stop handing over your free will, intelligence, assets, time and energy to bogus spiritual masters. Transfer your shabda bramana spiritual sound vibration to the real parampara. And thus access the original formal parampara and mahamantra process for gradual spiritual development. But do not surrender to those only interested in pratishta, name and fame, money, influence, man power, buildings etc. Worse, some of them want sex with followers. Making their big buildings for their personal vanity image projects is not going to make you Krishna consciousness.
KK Dasa
Earlier today I had a chat with a friend living in Mayapur.
He asked me about a post I wrote a few days back. I explained the reasoning and put into context that message in the totality of my purpose. One word could sum up my posts. It is AWARENESS. If anyone reads a single post in isolation, it’s unlikely to understand the overall purpose.
This awareness is what devotee-authorities never adequately address. Where’s the awareness to help devotees to defend themselves against institutional bullying, abuse and hurt? Where is the awareness for newcomers to be informed so that they won’t suffer shocks when things go wrong? Where is the awareness of reality-checks to remind everyone that ISKCON members can lose their identity in cult debacles?
Awareness will assist devotees in making up their own minds, to say “NO” if necessary and to express themselves without fear. If these aspects of ISKCON life are missing, we’re socially backward.
In service to the devotees, I won’t apologise if this awareness upsets devotee-leaders because if they don’t open up with accountability and accessibility to ‘rank and file’ devotees, it will come back to trouble them anyway. My friend from Mayapur appreciated my purpose after an explanation. At your service.
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Mayesvara Dasa: Hindsight is alway 20 / 20. PADA was just as quiet as were most when this photo (of Kirtanananda on his Vyasa seat) was taken, now he gets massive attention claiming that Lord Caitanyas movement is based on the worship of pedophiles. We were all under 30 with little or NO experience, idealistic and charmed by Srila Prabhupadas extraordinary magnitude. Unfortunatly we discovered just how much evil is saturated everywhere in Kali Yuga the arduous way. The truth is far more complex and universal. For more details and a clear understanding read:
In Search of ISKCON Child Abusers https://jagannatha.com/in-search-of-iskcon-child-abusers/
KD: That's your excuse? Its really lame. Can you come up with a better one?
A Dasi: Mayesvara Dasa yes no more excuses ..... as part of your "age 30" devotional journey as adults ... that was our entire whole short ... and horrible ... childhood experience when we were small children ... sick of your excuse making take on it.
PADA: Mayesvara Dasa: I already knew we cannot worship conditioned souls as God's successors when I was maybe 10 years old. I did not have to wait -- to age 30 -- to know that. I am being interviewed by the police, the FEDS, the courts, the media, the scholars, the books writers etc. because at least I said something.
And I am still being interviewed now for the same reason, i.e. it is well known even publicly that at least -- I said something. We could argue that what I said was: too strident, not strident enough, too little -- too late, using bad language, or whatever other complaints I get all the time, but I did at least make some effort to contain the molester messiah's project.
And that is why I have been part of the media and legal side of this situation ongoing. The real question is: what did you and your guru bhai pals do to correct the situation? ys pd
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