PADA: There are hundreds or even thousands of comments we did not post due to saving space, but there are a lot of other folks making similar comments. It seems like all of a sudden lots of people agree with PADA, child molesting guru cults are Satanic and evil.
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Every ISKCON leader who looked the other way is culpable for the 40-year reign of terror Anirdesya Vapu (fka Bhaktividya Purna) held over vulnerable young Vaishnavas in Mayapur. That includes those leaders who publicly endorsed him, who invited him to travel and speak at their temples, who instructed their disciples to send their children to his schools, or who enjoyed the perks of having gurukula boys as indentured servants, while visiting Mayapur and staying at AV’s schools.
Leaders, every one of you has blood on your hands! You were warned. Many times. Over the past 30+ years you received seven (7!) official reports that repeatedly informed you of AV’s horrific abuse. Yet you ignored them. Even worse, you allowed, encouraged - and even facilitated - his abuse of more children.
You invoked Bhagavad Gita 9.30. “Api cet.” “Forgive and forget!” Shame on you. Collectively, you disgraced our Society. Now you have a brave devotee coming forward to tell his story of severe child abuse and Vaishnava aparadha from Anirdesya Vapu. The ISKCON world is watching. What will you do?
[PADA: They will probably do what they always do, saying that pedophiles are often Krishna's successors -- and "so what" if thousands of children have been abused, ISKCON has been sued and bankrupted, the children all left, some children committed suicide etc. We are gurus anyway, any questions?
That is also why some leaders told Mahasringha, we cannot leave now. We did not pay into social security, so if we leave -- we have nothing. Are we going to start driving a taxi now? This is our career until we die. It is basically all about money and economic security at this point. Even one of their big leaders told me, I would work with you, but they pay my salary. If you pay me the same salary, I will work with you.
[PADA: They will probably do what they always do, saying that pedophiles are often Krishna's successors -- and "so what" if thousands of children have been abused, ISKCON has been sued and bankrupted, the children all left, some children committed suicide etc. We are gurus anyway, any questions?
That is also why some leaders told Mahasringha, we cannot leave now. We did not pay into social security, so if we leave -- we have nothing. Are we going to start driving a taxi now? This is our career until we die. It is basically all about money and economic security at this point. Even one of their big leaders told me, I would work with you, but they pay my salary. If you pay me the same salary, I will work with you.
Once people become economically tethered to a corrupt system, all the energy goes into sustaining the corrupt system. Hence, we cannot get rid of Lokanath, because he has wealthy patrons. Or, as the FBI says, if you want to know anything about a crime, first step, follow the money. Of course it is also odd the rest of the devotees allow child abusers to float around and they are respected, while the same people would be isolated for their protection in prison.
Sulochana was investigating the molesting and he was interviewing victims and parents of victims, and that is why he was excommunicated in March 1986. And then a few months later -- his life was ended in Los Angeles in May 1986. I told him not to go to Los Angeles, but he said if we stay together, we will both go down at once. One of us needs to survive so he can go to the authorities.
Sulochana was investigating the molesting and he was interviewing victims and parents of victims, and that is why he was excommunicated in March 1986. And then a few months later -- his life was ended in Los Angeles in May 1986. I told him not to go to Los Angeles, but he said if we stay together, we will both go down at once. One of us needs to survive so he can go to the authorities.
When I was helping the molesting case while living in Los Angeles in 1997, the police kept pulling me over on my bike, "don't you know what happened to your friend a few blocks from here"? Jayapataka came to LA around that time and when he saw me sitting across the street, he charged at me screaming as loud as he could, trying to intimidate me. Yep, the people who were exposing all this were viciously oppressed.
Everyone involved is implicated, the perps, the enablers, the scholarly position paper writers, the temple enforcers, the legal defender team, and so on. It is called collective karma. If they were taking poor kids off the street to exploit them, then shouldn't they be charged with human trafficking? And when are they going to reinstate all of us who protested as "members in good standing," and the people who orchestrated all this are the people who "are not in good standing"? ys pd
DP: Shameless people with horrific character. I do not want to have to do anything anymore with any of them, including my own "guru." Finished! For me ISKCON is a dead society and those trying to revive it are fools number one. Time to abandon the sinking Titanic and take to the smaller vessels.
DP: Shameless people with horrific character. I do not want to have to do anything anymore with any of them, including my own "guru." Finished! For me ISKCON is a dead society and those trying to revive it are fools number one. Time to abandon the sinking Titanic and take to the smaller vessels.
See you on the other side! I know Vedasara personally. Such a loving person ... This one struck me the most. I cannot get myself together since I have read it. Feeling sick to think of the way these tyrants treat children.
RS: I'm with you. Your words ring true for me. My eyes are full of water having read this. I was also in the older boys ashram in Mayapur for some time. This was so shocking for me to read. As soon as I stood against what abuse I knew of at the time, I was completely shut down and worked over. Anirdesha did nothing to support me. He literally fed me to the wolves. All of these people need to be in jail. ISKCON needs to be exposed for what it has become.
GG: Notice that when someone confronted Anirdesha in the temple, the crowd all supported him and told the protester to shut up. There is a whole support system for pedophiles in ISKCON, not just the leaders.
ML Dasi: I pray that you are still able to take shelter of Srila Prabhupada, though I understand if you cannot. It has taken me many years to see him separately from all the rest.
RS: Amazing, I'm so sorry to hear that ... I hope you got rid of him? I tried to kill myself too ... but luckily didn't succeed. The temple President Balaram tore shreds off me for damaging the movement and it's reputation. They are all unqualified and are arseholes. They don't care of we live or die, and in fact our living is a giant burden for them.
KD: Why is the main thing you are doing is convincing him to stay near such a toxic organization? Whether people after hearing this choose to still not believe in ISKCON is secondary. Most of my gurukuli buddies want to have nothing to do with ISKCON or Krsna. I don't waste my time trying to get them to still believe after all what they went through.
RS: Amazing, I'm so sorry to hear that ... I hope you got rid of him? I tried to kill myself too ... but luckily didn't succeed. The temple President Balaram tore shreds off me for damaging the movement and it's reputation. They are all unqualified and are arseholes. They don't care of we live or die, and in fact our living is a giant burden for them.
KD: Why is the main thing you are doing is convincing him to stay near such a toxic organization? Whether people after hearing this choose to still not believe in ISKCON is secondary. Most of my gurukuli buddies want to have nothing to do with ISKCON or Krsna. I don't waste my time trying to get them to still believe after all what they went through.
Some gurkulis still are ok with Krishna but not ISKCON. I dont think we should be trying to convince or pressure people to stay within the fold. ISKCON doesn't deserve good people after the way they treated most members, especially children and women. We should convince people to stay away from toxic places.
ML: You misread me. I have no interest in encouraging anyone to stay within the organization, especially as I myself do not have anything to do with them. I encourage others to take shelter of Srila Prabhupada, and to find likeminded devotees to be friends with. And for those who have no longer any interest, I fully understand.
RS: I decided long ago to separate myself from these so-called Vaishnavas. When I was threatened with death by the known Paedophile Gaura Gopal I decided that I wanted nothing more to do with the society. I wanted to make decisions myself with regards to my own life. Not to be told what to do by unqualified and ill motivated jerks. By and large my life has been good and productive. I've made mistakes, but they're my mistakes and not some wanker Temple President or Sankirtan leader's. Mahaprabhu and Krishna has always been present.
LG: I wish everyone felt the same as us. I was known as ****** but I want to cast off this ISKCON name. I need to separate myself from the whole thing.
S Devi Dasi: Is this real? I can't come out of my amazement.
ED: Yes. I was in Gurukula then and what he says lines up with other things I heard and saw as a 9-10 year old boy then. Like the boy who was evacuated from India after suffering a renal prolapse. Nobody was speaking about why a little boy has that. But it’s quite obvious now that it was from repeated rape. They were raping children, and this must have been known to a lot of people.
JP: Is there a website solely dedicated to informing ISKCON of the child abusers and the stances of the many persons who knew but did nothing?
SD: I heard there will be one soon.
JP: Will it be maintained by ISKCON leaders or by one or more persons that act independently from the same leaders that have actively or passively supported the abusers?
DD: Not expecting to see ISKCON leaders take up such an initiative.
SD: From what I know, it will NOT be ISKCON leaders maintaining it.
KC: I’ve met Veda. My husband and I talked with him until 3 am one Janmastami.
He mentioned he suffered abuse, but I had no idea how severe it was. Veda, if you are reading the comments, I offer my ***deepest*** gratitude for your courage in speaking up.
PR: Yea, I guessed he had been abused but had no idea it was this bad. It’s horrific.
MR: When I see all these pictures of Iskcon leaders, good friends of ex Bhaktividyapurna swami I feel vomiting in disgust.
PS: Me too.
SM: So heartbreaking. I can’t even imagine how hard it must be to make a public testimony like this. Re-living the horror and exposing yourself in a most vulnerable way takes so much courage. Knowing Veda and now reading about everything he’s been through makes me respect him even more for who he is and everything he does.
SM: So heartbreaking. I can’t even imagine how hard it must be to make a public testimony like this. Re-living the horror and exposing yourself in a most vulnerable way takes so much courage. Knowing Veda and now reading about everything he’s been through makes me respect him even more for who he is and everything he does.
Thank you to everyone who is putting themselves through these pains again in order to bring about the much needed change in ISKCON.
GG: Pedophile guru society's often do not change, therefore ... they need to be exposed and exposed and exposed. And if possible, sued and taken out of their misery. They all need to be in prison where they know how to handle molesters properly there, ISKCON does not have a clue.
DF: I’m so very very sorry and sad to read this utterly nightmarish testimony. None of it is surprising, which is devastating in itself. But it’s taken such courage and energy to write it. What feeble defences can the GBC and BVPS’s supporters muster in the face of such a wrenchingly ghastly story. I sure wish I could do something more than say just thank you to Veda for his heroism in speaking so powerfully. Stolen lives. It’s unforgivable.
MS: Definitely ... purely evil and unforgivable. They keep forgiving the unforgivable, that is the problem right there.
CM: Too often, in ISKCON (and other related Gaudiya Vaishnava groups), Bhagavad Gita verse 9.30 is misquoted, or at least quoted out of context, and misapplied. In Sanskrit, this is the “api cet su-duracaro” verse.
Here’s the English translation:
“Even if one commits the most abominable actions, if he is engaged in devotional service, he is to be considered saintly because he is properly situated.”
In his purport, Srila Prabhupada offers an important caution: “this verse only refers to an accident due to the strong power of material connections.” There are clear instructions on the difference between what one can do in the event of an accidental fall down and what one must do in the case of Vaishnava-aparadha.
For instance, consider the stories of Hiranyakasipu and Prahlad Maharaj; Saubhari Muni and Garuda; Sacimata and Advaita Acarya; Jagai, Madhai, and Lord Nityananda; as well as Durvasa Muni and Ambarisa Maharaja.
In all of these situations, the Supreme Lord says amnesty is not His to give. That has to come from the offended devotee. It’s important to keep in mind, while the offenders may still be considered Vaishnavas, they will not have properly atoned, or be able to fully revitalize their Krishna consciousness, until they have pleased – and are forgiven by – the offended Vaishnava.
Who says so? Our Scriptures say so. For example, in the purport of Srimad Bhagavatam 4.26.24, Srila Prabhupada writes: “The conclusion is that if Krsna consciousness is covered by material sins, one can eliminate the sins simply by chanting the Hare Krsna mantra, but if one pollutes his Krsna consciousness by offending a brahmana or Vaishnava, one cannot revive it until one properly atones for the sin by pleasing the offended Vaishnava or brahmana.”
The final sentence of this purport is crystal clear: “A Vaishnava-aparadha cannot be atoned by any means other than by begging the pardon of the offended Vaishnava.” https://seekingtheessence.wordpress.com/.../i-beg-your.../
KD: Akincana already wrote about it, "milking victimhood for personal gain". Sickos.
DF: I’m so very very sorry and sad to read this utterly nightmarish testimony. None of it is surprising, which is devastating in itself. But it’s taken such courage and energy to write it. What feeble defences can the GBC and BVPS’s supporters muster in the face of such a wrenchingly ghastly story. I sure wish I could do something more than say just thank you to Veda for his heroism in speaking so powerfully. Stolen lives. It’s unforgivable.
MS: Definitely ... purely evil and unforgivable. They keep forgiving the unforgivable, that is the problem right there.
CM: Too often, in ISKCON (and other related Gaudiya Vaishnava groups), Bhagavad Gita verse 9.30 is misquoted, or at least quoted out of context, and misapplied. In Sanskrit, this is the “api cet su-duracaro” verse.
Here’s the English translation:
“Even if one commits the most abominable actions, if he is engaged in devotional service, he is to be considered saintly because he is properly situated.”
In his purport, Srila Prabhupada offers an important caution: “this verse only refers to an accident due to the strong power of material connections.” There are clear instructions on the difference between what one can do in the event of an accidental fall down and what one must do in the case of Vaishnava-aparadha.
For instance, consider the stories of Hiranyakasipu and Prahlad Maharaj; Saubhari Muni and Garuda; Sacimata and Advaita Acarya; Jagai, Madhai, and Lord Nityananda; as well as Durvasa Muni and Ambarisa Maharaja.
In all of these situations, the Supreme Lord says amnesty is not His to give. That has to come from the offended devotee. It’s important to keep in mind, while the offenders may still be considered Vaishnavas, they will not have properly atoned, or be able to fully revitalize their Krishna consciousness, until they have pleased – and are forgiven by – the offended Vaishnava.
Who says so? Our Scriptures say so. For example, in the purport of Srimad Bhagavatam 4.26.24, Srila Prabhupada writes: “The conclusion is that if Krsna consciousness is covered by material sins, one can eliminate the sins simply by chanting the Hare Krsna mantra, but if one pollutes his Krsna consciousness by offending a brahmana or Vaishnava, one cannot revive it until one properly atones for the sin by pleasing the offended Vaishnava or brahmana.”
The final sentence of this purport is crystal clear: “A Vaishnava-aparadha cannot be atoned by any means other than by begging the pardon of the offended Vaishnava.” https://seekingtheessence.wordpress.com/.../i-beg-your.../
KD: Akincana already wrote about it, "milking victimhood for personal gain". Sickos.
NH: Dear Veda, Thanks for your courage in sharing this. I guess I never got to say this as a kid but I looked up to you and R Dasi immensely in those formative years in Mayapur Gurukul. I had a wonderful experience under the umbrella of your protection but it's breaking my heart hearing what you went through.
You're one of the kindest and coolest people I've ever known. I hope every person in ISKCON pulls their head out of the sand and takes a stance on standing up against child abusers and enablers. Lots of love and hope to see you sometime soon after all these years.
NA: Dear Vedasara Prabhu, while reading your story, I was filled with so many mixed emotions. I cried, hearing of the horrific abuse you had to endure. My body shook with rage, thinking of all the horrible, cruelty of this sorry excuse for a human, who was entrusted with your care, and all the other boys. I had no idea as to extent of your abuse and torture, and what you've gone through all these years. Please know that there are those who love you and care about you....me being one of them.
NA: Dear Vedasara Prabhu, while reading your story, I was filled with so many mixed emotions. I cried, hearing of the horrific abuse you had to endure. My body shook with rage, thinking of all the horrible, cruelty of this sorry excuse for a human, who was entrusted with your care, and all the other boys. I had no idea as to extent of your abuse and torture, and what you've gone through all these years. Please know that there are those who love you and care about you....me being one of them.
EM: Dear Vedasara, thank you for coming forward. I deeply feel for you. Please press charges. I understood you are American now and a few of your perpetrators were American too. There is no statute of limitation for sexual abuse and torture. Your ultimate battle for justice against child abuse may still lay ahead of you. Iskcon leadership is too divided and too embroiled in mental and political consideration to take rightful action.
Sadly so but real. If the local GBC could support you that would be swell, if not many others would, of that I am convinced. I wish you all the courage and strength you need.
LW: From the United States Department of Justice: “Section 2423(c) of Title 18, United States Code, prohibits United States citizens or legal permanent residents from traveling from the United States to a foreign country, and while there, raping or sexually molesting a child or paying a child for sex. Citizens can be punished under this law even if the conduct they engaged in was legal in the country where it occurred.
LW: From the United States Department of Justice: “Section 2423(c) of Title 18, United States Code, prohibits United States citizens or legal permanent residents from traveling from the United States to a foreign country, and while there, raping or sexually molesting a child or paying a child for sex. Citizens can be punished under this law even if the conduct they engaged in was legal in the country where it occurred.
For example, if an individual traveled to a country that had legalized prostitution, and while they were there they paid a child for sex, that individual could still be convicted under this statute. The penalty for this provision is up to 30 years in prison.” https://www.justice.gov/.../citizens-guide-us-federal-law...
Citizen's Guide To U.S. Federal Law On The Extraterritorial Sexual Exploitation Of Children
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Citizen's Guide To U.S. Federal Law On The Extraterritorial Sexual Exploitation Of Children
GG: Yeah, sue these f**kers.
ER: Ohh Vedasara. Thank you for sharing this. I never knew, all those years. Somehow or other I was there in 90 but escaped any sexual abuse. Us little kids looked up to y’all in Maharaj’s house. And it was a violent depraved house of rape and abuse. I’m so so sorry my brother for having to live through this. Thank you for sharing. Thank you for speaking up!
SDD: I am happy Vedasar Prabhu as an ISKCON Temple president for approximately 10 years has finally found the strength to tell the truth now that he has been diagnosed with a terminal illness. Of course it's horrible what was done to him.
Obviously it's no accident that as a compromised team player he would be put into a leadership position. For those that think iskcon's GBC can be reformed, open your eyes to the depths of depravity that you were dealing with. This is only The Superficial abuse, the Satanic ritual abuse, sacrificial murder of infants and children isn't being discussed at all on this forum. I have the greatest respect for PA and JD on her YouTube channel to speak about the really dark stuff.
This is the testimony of my old friend and God sister Kamra Dasi on a different YouTube channel.
https://youtu.be/LZVUyZOSCJc
Finding Spiritual Shelter - Real vs. Cheating - Not In His Name
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MP: Veda, Thank you, thank you, thank you! I want to say that I believe you and support you in your effort to share your story and the truths of ISKCON gurukula institutionalized abuse of vaishnava children. I offer big hugs to you now and to the special little boy that needed and deserved love and protection but didn’t get it for way too many years. Your story resonates deeply with me and other fellow gurukulis. All my best for you.
Citizen's Guide To U.S. Federal Law On The Extraterritorial Sexual Exploitation Of Children
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Citizen's Guide To U.S. Federal Law On The Extraterritorial Sexual Exploitation Of Children
GG: Yeah, sue these f**kers.
ER: Ohh Vedasara. Thank you for sharing this. I never knew, all those years. Somehow or other I was there in 90 but escaped any sexual abuse. Us little kids looked up to y’all in Maharaj’s house. And it was a violent depraved house of rape and abuse. I’m so so sorry my brother for having to live through this. Thank you for sharing. Thank you for speaking up!
SDD: I am happy Vedasar Prabhu as an ISKCON Temple president for approximately 10 years has finally found the strength to tell the truth now that he has been diagnosed with a terminal illness. Of course it's horrible what was done to him.
Obviously it's no accident that as a compromised team player he would be put into a leadership position. For those that think iskcon's GBC can be reformed, open your eyes to the depths of depravity that you were dealing with. This is only The Superficial abuse, the Satanic ritual abuse, sacrificial murder of infants and children isn't being discussed at all on this forum. I have the greatest respect for PA and JD on her YouTube channel to speak about the really dark stuff.
This is the testimony of my old friend and God sister Kamra Dasi on a different YouTube channel.
https://youtu.be/LZVUyZOSCJc
Finding Spiritual Shelter - Real vs. Cheating - Not In His Name
YOUTUBE.COM
MP: Veda, Thank you, thank you, thank you! I want to say that I believe you and support you in your effort to share your story and the truths of ISKCON gurukula institutionalized abuse of vaishnava children. I offer big hugs to you now and to the special little boy that needed and deserved love and protection but didn’t get it for way too many years. Your story resonates deeply with me and other fellow gurukulis. All my best for you.
PAM: Dear Vedasara prabhu, I don't have words worthy enough to express my understanding of what you went through. With a heavy heart, I read this. I could never have imagined you had such a dire traumatised life. When I think of you, I think of my son who, thanks to your encouragement and guidance, is a fine responsible young man. Like ... you were cool I still remember your cool smile.
I would never have imagined that behind such a cool smile is the traumatised heart of Veda. Where did you gather this courage and strength to not only remain in association but to have also cared for and protected all these boys with such diligence during your time at the boys school.
I feel very honoured to have served along side you. I still remember the little kids looking forward to your visit. Thank you for speaking up. Better late than never! I pray for your recovery in every sense. Have the courage to go the extra mile. Our future generation depends on it. Thank you, prabhu, for giving those boys under your care a memorable and joyful time, which you yourself never had as a child. Ys
SN: Firstly, much respect to this prabhu for standing up and speaking out. I’ve known grown men, old friends who have taken their own lives rather than face the fear of childhood abuse. The picture slowly emerging from Mayapur seems to be of a semi-elaborate form of International Child-Trafficking cult, wherein innocent parents were hoodwinked into sending their children from different parts of the world into the houses of these waiting sadists, predators and despots who literally made them into their whipping boys and Child-Slaves, ‘trained up’ to serve Iskcon’s elite. And the elite were eating up the glories of being served by these sex slaves.
KB: Reading your painful story brought tears to my eyes. I admire your bravery for coming forward to pour your heart out. I can hear your pain both emotionally & physically. This is unacceptable, disgusting. I pray Lord Bralarama gives all of you strength to heal.
K Dasi: It is reassuring when I see serious ISKCON devotees like yourself acknowledging child abuse and speaking up about it. I hope more and more come forward and speak up.
KB: It is not about seriousness. Anybody should be acknowledging child abuse. Terribly sad and unbelievable. All these stories make me sick. After having engaged in such activities of torture how can one sleep, how can one chant, how can one glorify Guru & Gauranga, how can one read Srila Prabhupada books and be a teacher? And in the dhama? I just cannot understand. So much damage to the young innocent kids. I pray this will stop. Kids need to be educated about all these abuses. And the adults need to quit sitting on the sidelines and take action.
KB: It is not about seriousness. Anybody should be acknowledging child abuse. Terribly sad and unbelievable. All these stories make me sick. After having engaged in such activities of torture how can one sleep, how can one chant, how can one glorify Guru & Gauranga, how can one read Srila Prabhupada books and be a teacher? And in the dhama? I just cannot understand. So much damage to the young innocent kids. I pray this will stop. Kids need to be educated about all these abuses. And the adults need to quit sitting on the sidelines and take action.
RF: We have spoken up and nothing has changed, it has perhaps only gotten worse. I don't know the answer, but most leave because no one listens and the abusers simply become more prolific.
BW: As a fellow Gurukuli, I feel intensely for Veda and understand his plight. However people should know the sexual molestation was not limited to Mayapur Gurukula, it was also introduced into Vrindavan Gurukula by the many monitors from Mayapur in Ananta Rupa’s and Sastra’s ashram. The Mayapur cancer was spread to many other parts of the society.
KD: And in New Vrndavana - Sri Galim and co.
RF: Very important point you made to show how widespread this became. A poison ... that they spread.
The abuse has been in our faces for so long, it's been flowing through the lifeblood of ISKCON for decades. Some of the first members of the second generation spoke out about this many years ago, and disenchanted at the lack of any urgent and concrete changes, so many of us left.
Unfortunately, I come to find out decades later that the abuse only thrived and worsened. Regarding some of the names that Veda mentioned, here one senior kuli challenged Badrinarayan for treating him terribly in gurukula when he was 5. The boy asked, " I was five, what could I possibly have done that was so wrong to deserve that treatment?"
Badrinarayan's answer was a simple and infuriating, " Sorry, I'm not saying this didn't happen to you, but I simply don't remember." This poor man was now in his 50s and I could see all of the hurt, he looked like that injured 5-year-old child all over again and he was trying to speak up but he got no validation.
As for Bhurijan, I can't say enough vile things about that man. The irony is that he wrote a child protection manual. I was reading it and it was all just words, he didn't follow any of it. He beat us and abused us and his full grown man adult rage was fully unleashed on me in an ongoing basis when I was 7 years old.
As for Bhurijan, I can't say enough vile things about that man. The irony is that he wrote a child protection manual. I was reading it and it was all just words, he didn't follow any of it. He beat us and abused us and his full grown man adult rage was fully unleashed on me in an ongoing basis when I was 7 years old.
He beat boys with sticks, threw large heavy desks at them, bullied and intimidated us publicly. I saw him lift a small boy, maybe 5 or 6 years old up by his neck and hold him against the wall and beat him in the middle of bhagavatam class for not wanting to recite the verse.
He was a very shy young boy. The entire temple, all hundred or so adult devotees in Gita nagari-- some were mothers and fathers themselves-- did nothing. Even as a little 7-year-old I knew that was evil. The things I talk about pale in comparison to what Veda so courageously divulged. What I'm saying here is that the abuse started with the first gurukulas in the 70s and it only got worse and worse. Later on Gita Nagari became a ghost town, they did not want us, we were varna sankara.
What do we do now? Tears won't help. We need to actionably do something. Will any legal body do anything? Will any policing bodies do anything? Will any ISKCON entity do anything?
One devotee woman who recently got her PhD in psychology wrote me an apology recently telling me that she was always appalled that I was saying things against the movement, but that through her coursework she came to understand that I was simply stating things that had actually happened. It shouldn't take a PhD in psychology to realize that what we are saying is true, but this is an example of how covered over devotees are by their faith in ISKCON and its leaders.
One devotee woman who recently got her PhD in psychology wrote me an apology recently telling me that she was always appalled that I was saying things against the movement, but that through her coursework she came to understand that I was simply stating things that had actually happened. It shouldn't take a PhD in psychology to realize that what we are saying is true, but this is an example of how covered over devotees are by their faith in ISKCON and its leaders.
Not that this doesn't go on in regular society, but being that we are Krishna conscious, devotees have extra faith that only good things happen in iskcon. If you haven't seen it yet, scroll through the comments and look where CD posted a YouTube video of Sanaka Rsi confronting BVP. That video has been out for years, so people have known for years.
What's so telling about this video is that it's one soul telling the truth in a room crowded with devotees and they rush to shut him up and protect BVP and BVP so smugly sits there spouting a bunch of BS. The "Maya" covering devotees in iskcon is so heavy as to be almost impenetrable. I've seen videos of mothers of children from mayapur gurukula crying pitiably, explaining that they put their trust in the movement and what they got back was a completely abused and traumatized child. Some mothers lament their children took their own lives. They were all cheated.
My only lesson from all of this is: Parents, please don't put blind faith in any ISKCON adult. And please listen to your children. We need to daily check in with our children and be aware of who they are around. We need to have open communication with them, we need to be invested in them. I know way too many cases of children who are abused by other children who had been abused by adults in iskcon.
My only lesson from all of this is: Parents, please don't put blind faith in any ISKCON adult. And please listen to your children. We need to daily check in with our children and be aware of who they are around. We need to have open communication with them, we need to be invested in them. I know way too many cases of children who are abused by other children who had been abused by adults in iskcon.
So we even need to be aware of which children our children are playing with. In other words, we need to be hyper-villigent in protecting our children. Remember, Murlivadaka (child abuser) was the one who conducted the child protection seminar in Alachua. There are so many wolves hiding in the garb of sheep. It's overwhelming at times. I have to admit, I could not finish reading Veda's testimony.
I know full well that every word he speaks is the truth because these things happened, including to myself and to friends of mine. It's all too real and all too painful, but the most painful part is that nothing was ever done and in fact, things only got worse and worse, and what is most shocking is that despite so many years of abuse, so many people still don't know these things were happening, or they know and just do not care.
RR Das: Absolutely shocking that such evil could take place in the heart of ISKCON.
GG: Really the shock is that nothing was done for 45 years, and nothing is done now, same wolves are guarding the same hen house now.
RR Das: Absolutely shocking that such evil could take place in the heart of ISKCON.
GG: Really the shock is that nothing was done for 45 years, and nothing is done now, same wolves are guarding the same hen house now.
NS: They are covering up the mountains under the rug now, how long can they keep digging and hiding the dirt?
MK: Vedasara Prabhu, I'm so, so sorry to hear of all the abuse you sustained all those years. It is inconceivable and unconscionable. My heart goes out to you. You were always a very caring and kind caretaker then friend of our son, who always cherished your association. He always appreciated your kind and caring ways.
I will never be able to "understand" really all you went through; no one except those who have suffered like you actually can. But know that your speaking out is HUGE and WILL make a huge difference!
The whole of worldwide ISKCON has heard you...and unfortunately I feel like your voice has been the loudest and clearest to chronicle the horrendous abuse. Your voice has been heard and there's no going back now, for anyone; no one can deny the degree of depravity that was there. I feel it will be a big impetus to overturn the reign of terror.
Please let us know if we can be of any assistance to you. And know that this brave act of speaking out will not go in vain. So many of us will not rest till this scourge is driven far away...and Srila Prabhupada's home becomes the shelter that it was meant to be. We pray to Krsna for your well-being and beg Srila Prabhupada to bless you with his loving care.
Please let us know if we can be of any assistance to you. And know that this brave act of speaking out will not go in vain. So many of us will not rest till this scourge is driven far away...and Srila Prabhupada's home becomes the shelter that it was meant to be. We pray to Krsna for your well-being and beg Srila Prabhupada to bless you with his loving care.
DD: I too admire Vedasara's bravery and can't imagine what he and others have had to endure. Nothing could be further from what Prabhupada hoped for, for future generations.
JD: Who is worse: Jeffrey Epstein or ISKCON Leadership?
LP: I would have to say certain ISKON leadership. At least Epstein wasn’t putting on a spiritual show. That would be the greatest deceit.
SDD: Dear Vedasara prabhu, thank you for your bravery and compassion for the children of the past and the future. I’m so happy Mother Ganga saved you!
BS: Me and my brother were in Mayapur gurukul and after reading this I realise now how much danger we were in. Nothing happened to either of us as far as I know and I was quite oblivious to any abuse going on.
Just thinking about that now, if I hadn't been injured badly and the doctor wasn't there .... what maybe could have happened to me. My brother is a quite closed person when it comes to talking personal things, so I really hope nothing bad happened to him. I remember a few boys from back then .... some from New Govadhana and some from Mayapur. Where are they all now?
DH: He doesn’t deserve to even be acknowledged as human.
MG: My dear God, how anyone can survive this.
BB: That is the whole idea, they don't want us to survive. Why don't people get that by now? They want to take us down and stop us from being Krishna consciousness, and even ... from being alive.
TT: Yes, we all have self-defensive mechanism to hide our pain deep within and keep on a mask of calmness and self-control, and it comes out after some time if form of illness. Sometimes it's the only way to survive deep pain... This story is terrible beyond any words... how many others just suffer in silence?
DH: He doesn’t deserve to even be acknowledged as human.
MG: My dear God, how anyone can survive this.
BB: That is the whole idea, they don't want us to survive. Why don't people get that by now? They want to take us down and stop us from being Krishna consciousness, and even ... from being alive.
TT: Yes, we all have self-defensive mechanism to hide our pain deep within and keep on a mask of calmness and self-control, and it comes out after some time if form of illness. Sometimes it's the only way to survive deep pain... This story is terrible beyond any words... how many others just suffer in silence?
KD: We all process our pain in our own ways. Outwardly we may appear to have moved on to normalcy, but realistically, we will always have issues internally. The Sad Clown Syndrome- Laughing on the outside; dying on the inside.
BB: Like I said, dying on the inside, means mission accomplished. They are soul killer demons, and their assistants are part of the whole agenda.
RD: I met Vedasara prabhu on my first trip to India with a few Prabhupada disciples in 2000. He spent a day with us, showing us around Mayapur, including the gurukula. He is around my age, at that time in our early 20s, and I was struck by his gentle and peaceful demeanour. My heart absolutely breaks reading his story, and I hope he knows how brave he is for speaking out.
D Dasi: My humble obeisances, love and appreciation to Vedasara Prabhu. My heart breaks for him. He is an amazing person to have lived through all of that, at such a young age and still not have lost faith in Krishna Consciousness and continued to serve and preach. All glories to him. I take the dust of his lotus feet on my lowly head. As for all the monsters in his story, Ugra Nrsimha is waiting for them.
GD: Lord Nrsimha is half chewing Jayapataka's head right now.
JRD: Thank you for sharing. I cannot imagine the pain and suffering that you had to and continue to endure. I am inspired by your courage and your faith in the Lord. I pray for your recovery and healing. I pray that all those responsible in our leadership for not stopping the decades of abuse by inaction either through inefficiency and /or callousness take the highest ethical and compassionate position for the victims.
Sending love and hugs to you. May you always receive the blessings of Sri Chaitanya Mahaprabhu for the service to the children.
JP: Thank you for sharing this post. Does this mean that there can be legal recourse? Is there possibility for a mass communication campaign that informs all disciples and congregation members of the many different CPO reports, testimonials and names of the perpetrators, enablers, endorsers, protectors, witnesses, etc? Is there a mailing list? There must be one somewhere. Someone must have one.
AD: That letter from Vedasar was quite hard to read, I had to skip some of it. I am lost for words on one sense wondering how this was all allowed to continue, yet very unfortunately it did, but the fear and pain sustained by Veda is almost unbelievable, like a horror movie. What on earth would Srila Prabhupada think, that's quite obvious I think, what a terrible travesty and what a terrible disservice carried out by those awful and heartless perpetrators, what to speak of the image of ISKCON and the shame this puts upon the leaders as well as the thought of how Srila Prabhupada feels and Krishna, it's almost a nightmare hearing all of this plus I can't fully appreciate how anyone deals with this pain..
JR: Oh yeah like these people care about what Srila Prabhupada thinks. They only worry about keeping their bank balance in order.
PA: Every single testimony makes a huge difference. I couldn't read the whole thing because of my own trauma but I am forever grateful and appreciate every single word he has written to face his darkest days and years under the care and protection of Iskcon Mayapur.
MR: This is so heartbreaking. Thank you to Vedasara Prabhu for having so much courage and bravery. May you find peace and healing and thank you for being a ray of hope to those that you guided in the gurukul even after everything you had been through. Thank you for still being here.
JM: I was trying to tag the Prime Minister's Office of India. It stands for Prime Ministers Office - India. If you do a search on Facebook, you can find him. I don’t know why I wasn’t able to tag him. We need to get this story out to the authorities, medias etc.
JP: Thank you Veda. Thank you for having the courage to come forward. I am praying that many others will follow in your footsteps.
MR: This is so heartbreaking. Thank you to Vedasara Prabhu for having so much courage and bravery. May you find peace and healing and thank you for being a ray of hope to those that you guided in the gurukul even after everything you had been through. Thank you for still being here.
JM: I was trying to tag the Prime Minister's Office of India. It stands for Prime Ministers Office - India. If you do a search on Facebook, you can find him. I don’t know why I wasn’t able to tag him. We need to get this story out to the authorities, medias etc.
JP: Thank you Veda. Thank you for having the courage to come forward. I am praying that many others will follow in your footsteps.
BJ: I could only read half his testimony and had to quit, I just could not take it. These GBC people have no idea what is coming down on them in the next life for all this. They are all guilty for creating this disaster. And that is why they never speak to us, they are worried about us using their words against them in a legal case. Someone needs to get their mobile phone and confront them in public and then post the video showing their response. We need to expose them, and I mean all of them.
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The ecstatic symptoms of pedophile cults
*HH Kadamba Kanana Swami Health Update - 28-02-23*
Dear Devotees,
Resting is becoming more difficult, and Maharaja spends most of the night listening to audio narrations and chanting Japa. He usually gets some rest from 1.30am-4.30am, which allows him to function in the day. He now needs more assistance in getting up from bed, and sometimes has difficulties with blood circulation.
Today Maharaja spoke to HH Jayapataka Maharaja, who called in from Sridham Mayapaur. When Jayapataka Maharaja asked if there was any cure, Maharaja replied: "In my life I survived bullets, car accidents, firing squads, malaria and typhoid - my days were up, but Krishna saved me. But now my time has come." Jayapataka Maharaja said that Bhakti Tirtha Swami had given him some service before he left - "Do you have any service for me?" he humbly asked. Kadamba Kanana Maharaja laughed, but requested that a world-class university be established in Sridham Mayapur. "We have to establish our Sampradaya - we have to establish Gauranga!"
Maharaja said that Vrindavana and Mayapur were amongst the most important projects in ISKCON - from here the inspiration and empowerment to spread Krishna Consciousness would come. Thus, he said, we have to try and develop these projects more and more - "I tried to do my bit."
"He who takes shelter of Vrndavana, which is beyond the three modes of nature, which by its own mercy shines on the earth, which generously gives the nectar of pure love for Lord Hari, and which is filled with splendid bliss and flooded with unequalled sweetness, is honoured by the three worlds." (Prabhodananda Saraswati, Vrindavana Mahimamrta)
"He who takes shelter of Vrndavana, which is beyond the three modes of nature, which by its own mercy shines on the earth, which generously gives the nectar of pure love for Lord Hari, and which is filled with splendid bliss and flooded with unequalled sweetness, is honoured by the three worlds." (Prabhodananda Saraswati, Vrindavana Mahimamrta)
[PADA: Most important project, because Mayapur is the head quarters of their human trafficking / child raping society? ys pd]
M Dasi: Mayapur is telling their people ... do not read social media, or respond. Indeed! There legal consequences. Why has no one stuck a cell phone at them and video taped them with hard questions. Good question itself! Me thinks a lot of people are going to leave them now, this is just past the point of no return ... unrecoverable corruption and evil thinkers. The ship cannot be salvaged, better it sinks totally before is drowns more victims ... more people think that too.
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