Monday, March 6, 2023

Govinda Dasi / Hindu-izing / Russia Update / Etc. (ISKCON)


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GOUR PURNIMA WAKE UP CALL

[by Govinda dasi]

IT’s time to wake up. It is time to come to grips with the truth. It can’t be denied any longer. The beautiful Hare Krishna movement begun by Srila Prabhupada, with so many wonderful flower-like devotees, has been compromised. Invaded, infiltrated, and usurped.

Too much has been changed. Early devotees like myself find today’s Iskcon almost unrecognizable. Yes, the chanting is going on, and in many places there is still nice Deity worship. Some of the beautiful aspects remain.

But the ugly parts—the horrific child abuse, the unnecessary changes to Prabhupada’s books, the ridiculous management concepts (knee deep bureaucracy), the perverted social structure—are totally different from what Srila Prabhupada set up and expected to continue.

The absurd parade of so-called leaders / gurus / gbc’s show the world a farce. All this has marred the face of Srila Prabhupada’s Iskcon. We need to accept that not only do conditioned souls have no right to usurp a spiritual movement, we must also acknowledge that rakshasas disguised as devotees have indeed invaded our beautiful Hare Krishna movement.

Bickering so-called scholars, most of them just jockeying for pomp and pride litter our temples and expound their various views under the guise of Srila Prabhupada’s Iskcon. And they are liars.

The world purge has begun. Predicted by sages for centuries, it’s flames increase daily. Hidden from sight by mainstream media, millions are dying. This purge is not reserved only for the world at large. It is happening in every church, institution, government, country and college—wherever there is deception and corruption. Iskcon is not exempt.

Now we know. There are no excuses anymore. Ignorance is no longer a shelter. There are men who have invaded Prabhupada’s beautiful movement and made inroads at destroying it—-destroying the family unity, creating a hell for the women and children, stealing the assets of Srila Prabhupada’s mission … Men who are often sadistic sexual perverts of various descriptions, who have poisoned our culture of love and trust.

These men are not our friends or well wishers. Devotees, wake up. These rakshasas are out to destroy the very fabric of religiosity what to speak of Krishna consciousness. It is time to rise up, and refuse to be deceived any longer. Ask the questions, the answers are already there. In Prabhupada’s books. His real books. Do not bite the bait any longer, even if it is well disguised by shiny saffron cloth.

Go back to the basics. Go back to Prabhupada. Original Prabhupada, the one we love and the one who worked so hard to establish this mission all over the world. Not the fake one, that is promoted to be “just one of the guys.”

And you who are deceitfully wearing saffron cloth and parading as gurus—you know who you are. Look inside at your soul, at what you have become. Take your stolen money and go. Go do penance for the harm you have done to Lord Chaitanya’s mission. The harm you have done to Prabhupada’s children and grandchildren, to his daughters and grand daughters. Go to the forest and do penance. And maybe, just maybe, it will shorten your time in hell. Maybe. But I cant be sure about that. Just go.

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Text PAMHO:33678373 (28 lines) From: Ananda Tirtha (das) PVS (Mayapur - IN)
Date: 28-Feb-23 06:09 (11:39 +0530)

To: Malati (dd) ACBSP (GBC) (New Vrindavan/Columbus - USA) [92987]
(forwarded: 28-Feb-23 06:20) To: GBC Conference [19354]

Cc: NKD [66107](received: 28-Feb-23 06:59)

Reference: Text PAMHO:33676760 by Malati (dd) ACBSP (GBC) (New Vrindavan/Columbus- USA)

Comment: Text PAMHO:33678534 by Internet: kavicandra swami
Subject: Shiva puja inside ISKCON temple?

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Hare Krishna, Has there been a policy change to allow demigod worship, particularly of Lord Shiva, inside ISKCON temples? Yrs, Malati devi dasi

12.2 Guidelines

12.2.1 Worship of Demigods as Vaisnavas

1. Worship of demigods as independent gods is not permitted in Krsna consciousness. However, the Nectar of Devotion says that demigods should be respected. Worshipping demigods as Vaisnavas is authorized for preaching, in order to teach people the right position of the demigods as great Vaisnavas.

a. The worship is only as a vaisnava (This means that the deva / devi shall be offered: the prasadam arati items immediately after they are offered to Lord Krsna, krsna-prasadam flower garlands, and krsna-prasadam foodstuffs. No independent worship is offered. Only the chanting of Hare Krsna and VisAu's names is done, as Lord Caitanya did in South India.).

b. Their status as servants of Krsna is made as clear as possible through signs, symbols, and iconography, and

c. Offerings are of krsna-prasadam.

2. Deities of demigods (incl. Laksmi where no VisAu is established), shall not be established without permission of the GBC. Where they are permitted or where ISKCON acquires a temple with already established murtis of demigods, they may remain, provided they are worshipped as vaisnavas, as
provided above.

3. ISKCON temples may hold, on special occasions, ceremonies or pujas respecting and worshipping demigods as great vaisnavas, provided they shall be designed as an introduction, precisely to draw people into that culture, and not as a substitute for it, thereby not falling under Srila Prabhupada's
structure. Properly conducted, they are favorable to Krsna consciousness and should not be rejected.

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PA: I used to be called "a mleccha" as a child by the Indian ISKCON devotees and still do online, and was told I would have to take birth in India from an Indian Brahmana Vaishnava family or I had no right to speak about Krishna Katha. This was my temple president in Bhubaneswar who is now a Guru. 

The fact both my parents are initiated brahmana they said was not accepted as they were white. You just need to look at every single Iskcon temple in India that doesn't allow Vaishnavi Pujari makes me sick. Iskcon has become a racist misogynistic cult, obsessed with ancient sacrifices of black magic. 

Yes we had tantrics in Iskcon Bhubaneswar doing black magic regularly and met a number of the tantrics employed by different Sanyasi Iskcon Gurus to use Ashta Sidhi. 

GG: Gaura Govinda Maharaja also like some of the people the other GBC's called "sahajiyas."

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K Das

I am planning a series of videos - and perhaps other messages - highlighting what I see as arguably the GREATEST danger ISKCON is facing, the attack of individuals (members of ISKCON) who adopt and promote smarta attitudes.

This is very subtle - because the smartas, by definition, formally refer to various scriptures, various smritis -  and therefore their attack may even appear as the "solution" for ISKCON: becoming more "Vedic" (whatever that means in their minds); becoming less "Western" (whatever that means in their minds); or becoming more "sastric" (whatever that means in their mind).

Anyway, this is just a quick intro and I am not getting into details here, but I strongly believe the situation is serious; the pure principles of Gaudiya-vaisnavism are under attack; the proper mood established by Mahaprabhu and by the Founder-Acarya is being systematically eroded, and the new smartas are increasingly capturing more influence and power. 

[PADA: ISKCON has already handed off most of their temples to "Hindu managers" who are also the legal signatures on the legal ISKCON registered charity and property titles. Many temples are running by "volunteers" from the Hindu community. This is not new news. Various ISKCON Temples are having Bhagavat Saptas, demigod's poojas, car poojas, baby blessings, weddings, funerals and other Hindu-ized programs, for years now. And it is increasing.

Even if they wanted to make the Hindu programs conform to Srila Prabhupada's program, the GBC's people are gradually more and more -- the minor sector of voters on the legal charity board. One ISKCON temple GBC was trying to make some suggestions at the legal management board meeting two years ago, and the Hindus voted down his suggestions because they are in the majority. 

In other words, ISKCON has become a Hindu cultural hall business for the most part. I don't see any effort to turn that back, in fact Lokanath is stepping up more and more as the savior of ISKCON, because he appeals to the Hindus.  

ys pd angel108b@yahoo.com]     

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RUSSIA NEWS:

A disciple of Indradyumna Swami, the president of the one yatra in Russia urges followers to go to war for Russia in Ukraine.

Arjuna Krishna, the president of the Tyumen yatra, in a conversation with one devotee who published their conversation, calls on all Russian devotees to go to war.

He said: "Running away from conscription is a disgrace for the sankirtana movement. Why save your lives, who will need you? Now Russia will win and who will need these devotees? They will ask you, what do you say? Did we pray for them? This is hypocrisy. Devotees should go to the very hell hoping for Krsna. He will protect you. Who told you that Krishna wants you to sing harinamas? Krishna sends you a summons and calls you to Ukraine. Go through the fighting and you will become a pure devotee. You will be counted, you will be able to stand at the head of building a new Russia, a new world. You will be able to become ministers, presidents, great politicians, authoritative people. Why are you saving yourself? Do you want to go back to Krishna? So you are given this opportunity - to go into the trench. Defend the motherland is a worthy mission. Why does Krishna need cowards who have saved their lives? You ran away from mobilization - you don't believe in Krishna. Where is your firm faith? You're just neophytes. That's my message. What I think, that's the talk."



[PADA: Yep. A devotee sent me this article below as well, as his idea of the real explanation -- or the real reason Russia is bombing toxic chemical plants, paint factories near rivers, petro-chemicals facilities etc. -- it is to make the land of Ukraine toxic for agriculture. 

They are also planting millions of mines in agricultural land -- to make it unusable. 30% of Ukraine now has mines planted and no one knows how many tens of thousands "unexploded ordinance" are scattered everywhere. Farms are also planted with mines, and farm tractors and farmers are getting blown up, as well as grain silos, shipping yards for grains etc. all being destroyed. Whole idea is to halt agriculture production.

In addition, Russia is expending 20,000 artillery shells per day into largely agricultural land areas, or villages in agricultural areas, which explode all over the place. And then these teeny shell particles are embedded in the dirt where they start to leach off sometimes very toxic metals and explosives chemicals and residues into the ground water, making the agriculture produce toxic for humans for years, or even centuries. 

And the ground water will also not be suitable for humans, feeding cattle, farming etc. either. So the whole Russian idea is evidently -- to eventually turn Ukraine into a toxic, un-inhabitable burnt out ecological disaster hellscape wasteland, and they are well on their way to doing just that. 

This will make people sick for generations to come, and they just won't be able to grow on this land, or even drink the well water. And he says -- all of this intentional polluting of the land and water is by design -- so people will then be more dependent on Russian agri-produce. And because food is already scarce -- and people are starving all over the planet -- this will artificially jack up the price of the Russian farm produce. Sounds like this was planned all along? Fighting for this cause will not take a person back to Krishna. 

We wanted to save the world, by making the best agricultural land in the world toxic for humans and animals, so people and animals will suffer, starve, die, or get sick from toxic materials. Sounds like a plan! Where do I sign up! Sorry, fighting to toxify and starve the planet is not going to take people back to Krishna. The problem these leaders do not realize is, they will come back as

ys pd] 

The toxic legacy of the Ukraine war - BBC Future

Ramzan Kadyrov

Putin's crony fears Russian FSB agents poisoned him ... hmmm, what kind of friends are these?  

Chechen warlord Ramzan Kadyrov seriously ill — feared poisoned (nypost.com)

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RUSSIA NEWS:

GBC ISKCON is one of the cells of the global criminal community.

GBC ISKCON is an international criminal organization that commits serious and especially serious crimes on a regular basis, but for some reason, GBC gets away with everything every time. The fact is that they are in cahoots and are part of the global criminal community, which is also known as the "world government". When you talk about this topic, then people usually start laughing, but that was before, before Covid and a lot of wars, where the hand of the global criminal community is visible. Now everyone understands how the thieves and robbers guild behaves and how they put their enrichment above everything, even human lives.

The formation of GBC as a criminal organization began under Prabhupada, then there was the poisoning of Prabhupada together with the world rascals, the distortion of books, 11 zonal acharyas and so on.

Now the story of violence (including sexual) in gurukuls in India is being raised. Why has the Indian government not punished the GBC criminals and their accomplices after so many years? Because the Indian government is part of the global criminal community, like GBC ISKCON, they are colleagues, they are into the bargain and they have agreements on the commission of crimes. The puzzle has formed.

Therefore, as long as there is a global criminal community, which includes the governments of countries and others, we cannot talk about the promotion of Krishna consciousness around the world. Prabhupada has said this more than once.

If the government of India had been righteous, followed the dharma, it would have punished criminals in GBC long ago to the full extent of the law, up to the highest measure.

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Yep, what happened to varnasrama?

https://realvarnasrama.wordpress.com/?

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PADA: Yep, there are many ex-gukulis living around here on the West Coast. Almost cent percent of them avoid ISKCON. They were often told -- at age 5 -- "you selected the wrong guru because you wanted to be cheated." "It is your karma" ETC. And when I helped some of the with their $400,00,000 lawsuit, mostly they were isolated all the more, even cursed and rejected all the more. First of all, ISKCON needs to make some sort of outreach program to these original layers of victims, like these people, or else it looks unfortunately like victims are expendable, which creates a sort of impression it is a cult and not a caring society and community. 

And even worse, even now more and more people are still being told, you just wanted to be cheated, it is your karma etc. No, they did not want to be cheated, they were sold a bad bill of goods, and the people who sold them these faulty products have never been held accountable, ok, looks like a cult and not a regulated society. As long as a company sells faulty products, then blames the consumers for purchasing their faulty products, they will have no credibility as responsible and mature people. And what will happen instead is -- the people who were sold the faulty products -- will gradually start to compare notes -- and make a backlash, as is happening now. ys pd

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