Basu Ghosh: Prostitution / Drugs / Satan "The GBC Standard"?

𝐌𝐞𝐬𝐬𝐚𝐠𝐞 𝐟𝐫𝐨𝐦 𝐁𝐚𝐬𝐮 𝐆𝐡𝐨𝐬𝐡 𝐃𝐚𝐬 (ACBSP)

Dear ***** Prabhu,

Well, I respect you a lot, so I am giving you my personal understanding on this (Lokanath) topic.

First though, we did not set the degraded standard. The GBC did. In 1993 they disciplined LNS, maybe not enough I agree, then in 2010 they again reviewed and disciplined him, and now 2021, 30 years later, they again want to review. That in itself makes you wonder why now.

If the mother is distraught she can file a case but neither she nor the daughter are speaking anything?

In that 30 year span the GBC gave permission to 5,000 devotees to take initiation with the understanding that he is accepted by the GBC body. This is their mess, they authorized him. He has not a spot since that time. The GBC screwed up so why punish those devotees?

Now they want to punish maharaja a third time and if you say yes, then those GBC who made this mess must also account for their introducing this degraded standard.

Where a woman can leave ISKCON, take girls off the street and put them into prostitution, become a drug addict and Satan worshipper and when coming back to ISKCON become a GBC. That is the standard we are working with.

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PADA: Basu Ghosh is now complaining that the GBC made Malati (Melanie Nagel) a GBC -- after she was involved in the Prithu Putra Satanic cult. Although oddly, Prithu Putra left ISKCON complaining they had poisoned the founder, Srila Prabhupada. OK so the ISKCON Governing GBC makes contaminated people into their GBCs and gurus, yet Basu Ghosh has been a contributing advisor to their program all along? 

How do contaminated people become God's successors, because they rubber stamp them as such and all along. Now 5,000 people have been fooled by this, but already hundreds of thousands of others have been fooled -- because they were worshiping Kirtanananda, Jayatirtha, Ramesvara et al. So we should save the current 5,000, but why didn't you save the others? These others are all gone now, leaving ISKCON as an empty ghost town in disgust.

Right! The GBC makes Satan worshiping cult folks into another GBC, and so therefore -- if they make a child grabber into a guru -- what is the problem? There is no standard anyway. Well yup. So why not start making standards now? Instead of saying there is already no standard for GBC and guru in ISKCON, why not try to make one at least at this stage? Or what will the legacy of Srila Prabhupada be, there is no standard for anything, GBC, guru or anything else? 

As far as India goes, that is the citadel headquarters of the illicit sex, and pedophile acharya's program, where pedophiles and maybe sex with cats is buried in samadhi. India folks should be lecturing us mlecchas that this wrong, and not having us lecture them that this is wrong. But, Basu Ghosh makes a good point, there is no standard for GBC and guru. Yep! No one can argue that!  

http://krishna1008.blogspot.com/2018/02/prithu-putra-and-malati-dasi-melanie.html

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So why do you blame India for introducing a degraded standard? 

[PADA: Because various people from India are arguing with PADA that we need to follow the GBC guru system, which has illicit sex with men, women and children, and maybe sex with cats. They should be lecturing me that Krishna's successors cannot be deviants. Instead I have to lecture them about what is the standard for Krishna's successors. They have reversed the actual system, they should be telling us mlecchas that debauchees and their cheer leaders are not Krishna's successors, instead of us having to tell THEM in India.]

The GBC did that long ago. You know better than me the names of those still charading as senior devotees under the protection of the GBC. Naked fornication with women, sannyasa living with women still today. Seems only Indians have to come to some standard.

[PADA: Ummm nope. India folks are lecturing to me we need to follow the GBC and their GBC gurus like Jayapataka swami, Bhakti Vikas swami, Gopal Krishna swami, Radhanath swami etc. --- all the time.] 

So what do we do? Does the GBC ever consider the devotees from India. Let's face facts, I have seen and heard total racist remarks against Indian devotees. A few GBC still think India is just some third world country because they never understood the culture, only the philosophy.

[PADA: Well if the shoe fits, what can we do? India is the citadel leading country that supports the GBC's illicit sex with men, women and children guru parampara. And worse, they argue with PADA why their pedophile worship process is bona fide.]  

This mess is bigger than LNS, India has had enough of being pushed around by the GBC. Who said GBC for life anyway? 

[PADA: So the GBC makes Lokanath a guru, and we should accept that he is a guru because it is another example of GBC folly?]

In the conversations with Srila Prabhupada before the GBC meeting you can read in the folio, that Srila Prabhupada was talking about the GBC he made are for life not all future ones. He wanted a system of appointment where the GBC is accountable. 

Again you know better, you experienced this yourself.

We agree with you, the standard should be high but set the standard and everyone follow. The GBC cannot just pick out someone they don't want and throw him away just because it suits their feminist agenda.

[PADA: A homosexual pedophile guru process is not "a feminist agenda," and I can't tell you how many times totally disgusted women reported to PADA that they are infuriated with Basu Ghosh's homosexual and pedophile messiahs program. It is not being accepted or promoted by hardly any women. 

This is a red herring argument, rather -- women are rejecting their homosexual and pedophile guru process wholesale all over the place. Their temples are empty, plain and simple, and even Lokanath said that in 1988. Their temples are empty graveyard ghost towns ...]

That's my two cents worth but LNS, FDG, Varnashram, Hermeneutics, Re-initiation, Guru tattva, the list goes on, to me the GBC have got it wrong over and over and that's why no one trusts them, as the chairman of the GBC himself joked with us.

Your servant

[PADA: Oh great, there is no standard for the used car business, so let us sell cars that spontaneously combust and burn up the passengers? Hee hee, wow, they are really digging their hole deeper every day. ys pd] 
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Please be informed of the resolution passed unanimously by 160 TPs in India who belong to the ICC (India temple presidents forum) - the Indian Continental Committee on the issue of Lokanath Swami - during a meeting of the ICC on July, 10, 2021.

Passed on July 10, 2021

Whereas, during a discussion in the ICC meeting attended by 160 leaders of ISKCON India, the leaders expressed extreme remorse, regret, frustration, and anger at the recent actions of the GBC with regard to Lokanath Swami. The specific remarks in this regard appear as an addenda to this resolution,
Whereas, the case of Lokanath Swami was dealt with previously by the GBC during 1993, 2011, and 2017. No new evidence in this case has been introduced, as was recently confirmed by the GBC Chairman,

Whereas, the present actions of the GBC with regard to Lokanath Swami violate the principle of double jeopardy, and are therefore blatantly unfair,
Therefore, the ICC resolves:

1. The case of Lokanath Swami be declared permanently closed forthwith by the GBC. It is our ardent desire that this be done by July 20, 2021, the 72nd Vyasa puja of Lokanath Swami, that would rectify the grave injustice that has been done to Maharaj by the recent actions of the GBC.

2. The idea of a panel constituted by the GBC to review the case be immediately dropped by the GBC.

No leader from ISKCON India will participate in the GBC’s proposed panel to review the case of Lokanath Swami.

3. If the GBC does not agree to these remedial measures, then ISKCON India leaders may adopt a spirit of non-cooperation with the GBC, (just as Mahaprabhu did, when he organized the protest of the actions of the Chand Kazi), until the situation is rectified.

4. ISKCON India will under no circumstances accept any decision or advice of the ICPO in regards to the case of Lokanath Swami.

5. An apology be tendered by the GBC EC for imposing sanctions on Lokanath Swami with only five hours notice, and giving him, de facto, no time to respond. These recent actions of the GBC EC and GBC body against Lokanath Swami have caused much undue distress to the minds and well being of his more than five thousand disciples.

PADA: A lot of the original devotees were basically hippies, who were averse to calling the police about anything. Crimes of all sorts were gradually going on in Haight Ashbury in open daylight, and no one wanted to call the police. Then -- all sorts of criminals were getting out of jail -- and they moved there, knowing it was a free for all. 

Later on, the city spent millions of dollars hiring 100 new cops and buying 25 new cop cars to patrol the Haight. But! We had no police in ISKCON, and we had people reluctant to call the cops in when needed. BTW, the Haight is still a mess even now with all the homeless, criminals and drug addicts who congregate in Golden Gate Park area.

Then we had the parents who told me "you have no faith in Krishna, Who will fix the whole thing." And for example, at one time I was in the apartment of one of those people who was lecturing me, and then (Krishna arranged) his own kid came in the front door with a giant dog stools on his shoes. And the devotee started screaming at the kid, get out of here! I said wait, you mean you have no faith in Krishna? He will be driving his rug cleaning truck here shortly.

And I could give hundreds of other similar types of incidents, point being, MOST of these parents did not want to take action themselves -- no matter what. Evidently this is because it is NOT ok for stools to be on MY OWN carpet, but if there are stools all over Krishna's house's carpet -- so what? And if Krishna's house is on fire -- and is burning down -- and children are suffering in the fire, so what? It is His job to fix this. So this is a basic misunderstanding of the Bhagavad Gita, you have to fight yourself to serve Krishna, or it is a hippie cop out. You decide.

So the leaders were sort of like the criminals who went unchecked in the Haight. And the people who did not check them were enabling and facilitating the situation. And that is why many children victims call this "a conspiracy of silence." The leaders were not helping, the parents were not helping for the most part, the rank and file temple people were not helping either, etc. 

And even now, the main complainants are -- the ex-victims, and we rarely get any testimony from the senior elders, either parents or leaders. This means, the conspiracy of silence assessment is -- correct. Of course leaders are the primary culprits, but there is the crime of commission, and omission. Either one is bad -- especially when children are involved. As one victim told me, "Our parents tossed us under the bus to save the buildings, but they saved an empty building, no one is there anymore. They saved nothing and we had to be sacrificed to save nothing." 

ys pd