[PADA: Yes, now all of a sudden, after all the banning, beating, suing, and even assassinating of us dissenters, we are now in "a spiritual discourse." Hee hee! I know, this is quite long and I have not reviewed much of it.
Meanwhile JD wanted to tell me -- he has been wrong all along! He wanted to say he thought all this time that pedophile guru programs are the worst thing in the universe, and will go to the lowest places of hell.
Nope!
VIOLENT pedophile guru programs are WAY worse, and they will go to an ever lower place in hell! He says -- he stands corrected! Yikes pilgrims! JD says, we are in fact dealing with the lowest beings of the universe here! Maybe that is correct, "the most dangerous elements in human society" as Isopanisad says? ys pd]
LD: Really! "Won't get fooled again" (as sung by The Who Band). How many people have to get banned or beat up, or molested ... or maybe killed ... before people realize ... there is no brahminical dialogue here and never has been?
ReplyDeleteIt is dialogue ... by kick to the head with steel tipped boots! We either go along to get along ... or get dragged along by their fanatics ... or end up out in the street with zero to show for years of our service to ISKCON. There never has been any dialogue ... this is another bluff and cheat.
Same time ... good ... they have to bring out their big looks of concern now. They are seeing their "let them eat cake" trick is no longer working as it did.
M Dasi: Who knew! More mothers are getting death threats from ... Hrdayananda's guru nightmare creation. I know! Good time we start "brahminical dialogue." Barking dogs who molest kids and want to kill Vaishnavas ... are not part of brahminical dialogue.
ReplyDeleteWhy does HDG never realize that? He does realize that ... this is another smoke and mirrors. Deflection. Sorry ... you cannot have children molested and mothers getting death threats ... and then smoke and mirrors us with "brahminical dialogue." Been there already. This is so shady ... it is amazing so many people are fooled by it.
PADA: Yes more and more people are getting threats of violence from the GBC's pedophile messiah's folks, includes mothers. When we were complaining about Bhavananda's gurukula molesting webs and nests building process, and his sex with taxi driver's program (there were many reports submitted to the GBC) Hrdayananda was openly lecturing / advocating keeping Bhavananda in the post of Vishnupada acharya in Mayapur. At that exact time a huge wind storm blew up out of nowhere, dark clouds appeared, the wind blew the cooking fires all over and started other fires, the animals started howling in distress, and everyone went silent. Everyone knew that keeping Bhavananda was bad. And at that time Hrdayananda was chuckling and smiling. My friends were there. And sure enough, the Bhavananda molesting empire was re-authorized and my friends who were complaining were then banned. The child molesting was re-engaged full tilt. ys pd
ReplyDeletePADA: Hrdayananda was in Los Angeles when I was there openly recruiting for victims for the child abuse lawsuit. He was always in front of the temple smiling and talking to a dozen women and when he would see me, he would give me the ugly death stare and avoid me. He was not interested in talking to me one iota about the child molesting, or the lawsuit case then, and he never has been ever since. He did at one point say to me I should go to Mayapur and discuss all this there, and my friends said -- Puranjan will be killed there -- and Hrdayananda said "that is what happens to offenders." ys pd
ReplyDeletePADA: They did do their "homework." The refused to discuss the matter with child advocates like me, knowing full well I was gathering testimony. Rather they told me "if there is a problem take us to court." Then, they evidently spent hundreds of thousands right off the bat doing their homework -- by talking to their expensive San Fernando lawyers, eventually spending millions and millions on court fees. So they did all their homework -- not with us -- but with their lawyers, i.e. not doing homework with victims or advocates for the victims. They insisted all this to go to court -- where they would spend millions on court fees and not on the children. And then -- they did the same thing in India. They sued the devotees there, then I came forward to assist the devotees who were being sued with documents and testimony, and they spent $20,000,000 doing their homework with their lawyers over there. Again, failing to set aside money for the children. So they are evidently spending hours and hours -- and perhaps countless hours -- doing homework -- with lawyers -- and not victims or advocates for victims. Jayapataka people were sending me insulting messages "you caused ISKCON to lose $100,000,000." No, I would have given you free consultation all along and saved the whole $100,000,000, but you wanted to consult lawyers and not us. ys pd
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