Srila Prabhupada – The World Acarya
Posted by Rupanuga das (ACBSP)
Even though Bhagavad-gita and Srimad Bhagavatam were spoken and recorded in 3,000 B.C., it wasn’t until 1965 A.D., 5,000 years later, that these original sastras containing the Yuga Dharma were released from India by His Divine Grace A.C. Bhaktivedanta Swami Prabhupada. Bhaktivinode Thakur had previously inaugurated the Hare Krsna Movement, the emblem of that Yuga Dharma, when he sent his Caitanya—His Life and Precepts to McGill University, Canada, in 1896. More copies of this sublime volume have been found in other countries, suggesting that the Thakur made an extensive mailing to the major English-speaking universities of his day.
From 1914, the son of Bhaktivinode, Srila Bhaktisiddhanta Saraswati, meditated upon how to execute his father’s order to go forward and fulfill his premonition that people from all over the world would chant and dance at Mayapur. It has been Lord Caitanya’s prediction that His Name would be known in every town and village of the world. To this end Srila Bhaktisiddhanta established 64 maths, large and small, mostly in Bengal, with the intention of training up Indians to preach in the West.
[PADA: And Rupanuga was the person specifically deputed by Srila Prabhupada to make sure that the GBC did not start imitating the Gaudiya Matha's false acharyas project. Yet Rupanuga failed to even warn the ISKCON society when the GBC went over to the Gaudiya Matha, and the GBC started making Gaudiya Matha styled false acharyas -- all under Rupanuga's watch and approval.
Even though Bhagavad-gita and Srimad Bhagavatam were spoken and recorded in 3,000 B.C., it wasn’t until 1965 A.D., 5,000 years later, that these original sastras containing the Yuga Dharma were released from India by His Divine Grace A.C. Bhaktivedanta Swami Prabhupada. Bhaktivinode Thakur had previously inaugurated the Hare Krsna Movement, the emblem of that Yuga Dharma, when he sent his Caitanya—His Life and Precepts to McGill University, Canada, in 1896. More copies of this sublime volume have been found in other countries, suggesting that the Thakur made an extensive mailing to the major English-speaking universities of his day.
From 1914, the son of Bhaktivinode, Srila Bhaktisiddhanta Saraswati, meditated upon how to execute his father’s order to go forward and fulfill his premonition that people from all over the world would chant and dance at Mayapur. It has been Lord Caitanya’s prediction that His Name would be known in every town and village of the world. To this end Srila Bhaktisiddhanta established 64 maths, large and small, mostly in Bengal, with the intention of training up Indians to preach in the West.
[PADA: And Rupanuga was the person specifically deputed by Srila Prabhupada to make sure that the GBC did not start imitating the Gaudiya Matha's false acharyas project. Yet Rupanuga failed to even warn the ISKCON society when the GBC went over to the Gaudiya Matha, and the GBC started making Gaudiya Matha styled false acharyas -- all under Rupanuga's watch and approval.
Was the fox watching the hen house?
Rupanuga was told clearly -- ISKCON is not supposed to go there, ISKCON is not supposed to make false acharyas, etc. To sum, Rupanuga was specifically deputed by Srila Prabhupada to make sure these deviations would not happen in his society.
Instead, Rupanuga became one of the biggest cheer leaders of the GBC's false acharyas and their Gaudiya Matha "advisors." And when the GBC starting saying acharyas are often debauchees, he supported that deviation as well, and apparently he still does.
Of course, this is one of the ten offenses, to consider that the guru is an ordinary man. Then again, we would be lucky if Rupanuga could find some nice ordinary men to be his "Krishna successor" acharyas and messiahs, instead he has rubber stamped his deviant pals to be "God's messiahs from heaven."
What could go wrong here? And even Rocana has all along supported the idea that the GBC will select (vote in?) gurus, despite these folks have all seen all sorts of ensuing chaos from their policy of rubber stamping conditioned souls as "God's successors."]
So it was at the very first meeting of Abhay Charan De, destined to become his principle disciple, that he admonished the educated young men present to prepare themselves for preaching in English in the West. It was Abhay Charan who would become A.C. Bhaktivedanta Swami, the next Srila Prabhupada, and go not only to the English-speaking countries, but to people on every continent, here dozens of different languages were spoken. Who knew?
Instead, Rupanuga became one of the biggest cheer leaders of the GBC's false acharyas and their Gaudiya Matha "advisors." And when the GBC starting saying acharyas are often debauchees, he supported that deviation as well, and apparently he still does.
Of course, this is one of the ten offenses, to consider that the guru is an ordinary man. Then again, we would be lucky if Rupanuga could find some nice ordinary men to be his "Krishna successor" acharyas and messiahs, instead he has rubber stamped his deviant pals to be "God's messiahs from heaven."
What could go wrong here? And even Rocana has all along supported the idea that the GBC will select (vote in?) gurus, despite these folks have all seen all sorts of ensuing chaos from their policy of rubber stamping conditioned souls as "God's successors."]
So it was at the very first meeting of Abhay Charan De, destined to become his principle disciple, that he admonished the educated young men present to prepare themselves for preaching in English in the West. It was Abhay Charan who would become A.C. Bhaktivedanta Swami, the next Srila Prabhupada, and go not only to the English-speaking countries, but to people on every continent, here dozens of different languages were spoken. Who knew?
Nature was running automatically, following laws that somehow evolved. The theory of evolution was taught in the schools as a law of nature. Those who believed in God had such a vague idea that love of God remained theoretical and practices ritualistic. Many thought reaching their heaven was guaranteed even if they remained sinful. It would take many pages to describe the complex society that awaited Srila Prabhupada’s arrival, but it was basically a frustrating time of “perhaps, maybe” futuristic science and the philosophy of life: “eat, drink and be merry for tomorrow we may die.”
[PADA: Yet, as bad as the "mundane society of the West" is, its way more advanced than Rupanuga's illicit sex messiahs program perhaps ever will be. Even the average "mundane" Western folks know that the Lord of the universe does not have illicit sex messiah successors. The ordinary citizens are very clear about this because they have the basic idea that since God is pure, thus His successor has to be pure as well. Hence, the Western people worship Jesus as their messiah and not Rupanuga's hand selected deviant messiahs.
Yep!
Its true. Almost any average hamburger eating, beer drinking, football TV watching person, anywhere in America -- knows that people like Jesus are not, were not, could not have been debauchees, and that messiahs are thus not voted in, voted out, suspended, monitored, censured, removed, excommunicated and so forth, as happens all the time in the Rupanuga messiah's lineage.
Rupanuga was working with the GBC in 1986 when they made all these bogus "rules for acharyas" during their 1986 "guru reform" -- apparently Rupanuga has no idea that messiahs are not debauchees who need to be "reformed" for deviations. And the first thing Rocana and Rupanuga's "reformers party" did was -- to reinstate their homosexual acharya, Bhavananda.
In 1986, the GBC was even saying that Kirtanananda is like Jesus, why was Rupanuga with these people? Rupanuga and his team was also saying Sulochana is an offender, and Rupanuga was helping these people who thought Kirtanananda is like Jesus, and that is how Sulochana was killed.]
In 1986, the GBC was even saying that Kirtanananda is like Jesus, why was Rupanuga with these people? Rupanuga and his team was also saying Sulochana is an offender, and Rupanuga was helping these people who thought Kirtanananda is like Jesus, and that is how Sulochana was killed.]
That critical mass was reached in 1966, when Srila Prabhupada, then Swamiji, opened the door of his little rented storefront. At that moment the transcendental plane, like a bolt of lightening, intersected the mundane plane, igniting a chain reaction that continues around the world, burning to ashes the most cherished illusions of conditioned souls.
[PADA: And Rupanuga's program's idea that messiahs are usually debauchees has burnt ISKCON to ashes. Srila Prabhupada said there was a fire in the Gaudiya Matha, of false gurus, and Rupanuga helped start the same fire in ISKCON.]
Comprehending how Srila Prabhupada acquired the benediction of spiritual potency he carried with him to America requires some historical review. Srila Prabhupada once explained that Lord Caitanya picked Srila Rupa Goswami because he was qualified to bear the burden of the responsibility of teaching the science of devotional service. He was fit. “Nana-sastra-vicaranaika-nilpunau sad-dharma-samsthapakau,” the Goswamis led by Rupa Goswami scrutinizingly studied the Vedic literatures to extract the essence of “Krsna Bhakti rasabhavamrta,” translated by Srila Prabhupada in his Nectar of Devotion as “Krsna consciousness.” In his turn, Srila Prabhupada studied the Six Goswamis and previous Acaryas, compiled the realizations of these great souls and included them in purports along with his own infallible wisdom – all in a way just suitable for the understanding of modern man.
[PADA: Which begs the question, why are people like Rupanuga juxtaposing illicit sex, debauchees and criminals as "parampara members" -- i.e. equals to these above mentioned acharyas?]
The magnitude of Srila Prabhupada’s accomplishment must be viewed on the cosmic scale. Lord Krsna appears once only in a day of Lord Brahma, of 4,320,000 x 1,000 solar years, a period of time beyond human imagination. Although there are many hundreds of thousands of planets in this middle planetary system, Earth is the planet where Lord Krsna Himself appears to display His eternal pastimes, not elsewhere. 4,320,000 solar years equals one cycle of four yugas, and in each yuga there appears a Yuga Avatar to teach the Yuga Dharma. The Yuga Avatar is white in Satya, red in Treta, syama (dark blue) in Dvapara and blackish in Kali. The Kali-yuga Avatar is usually blackish, “but in special cases pita (yellow) as Caitanya Mahaprabhu in the Kali-yuga (Caitanya-caritamrta Madhya 20.246 purport).
[PADA: Which makes Rupanuga's program's placing deviants into Lord Krishna's parampara all the more sinful, they are checking and halting millions and maybe billions of people from taking shelter of Krishna by saying they need to worship Rupanuga's program's illicit sex messiahs in order to attain Krishna. This is being rejected wholesale by millions and billions of people.
[PADA: Which makes Rupanuga's program's placing deviants into Lord Krishna's parampara all the more sinful, they are checking and halting millions and maybe billions of people from taking shelter of Krishna by saying they need to worship Rupanuga's program's illicit sex messiahs in order to attain Krishna. This is being rejected wholesale by millions and billions of people.
Hardly no one wants to worship Rupanuga's illicit sex messiah's programs throughout history, its does not work, it does not appeal to the mass of people, because it is a deviation. What kind of religion says we need to worship Rupanuga's illicit sex with men, women and children messiahs in order to attain God?
This is turning BILLIONS and BILLIONS of people away from the religion, which means Rupanuga's program is helping people to go hell and not surrender to Krishna. And as shastra says, false gurus and the people who support these false gurus -- will face severe reactions in their future incarnations. OK, they will go to the most obnoxious regions -- just for starters.
Shastra also says supporters of these false gurus would have been better off -- to have never even heard of the Vedas -- because even the ignorant karmis are much better situated than this lot. OK, the karmis will have a much more glorious future than these people.]
Out of the four bona fide Vaisnava Sampradayas, Lord Caitanya chose to appear in the Brahma-Madhva Sampradaya. Why He did so can be surmised from the following explanations in the Caitanya-caritamrta:
“Srila Bhaktisiddhanta remarks that in the disciplic succession of Madhvacarya – up to the advent of His Holiness Sripada Laksmipati Tirtha – only Lord Krsna was worshipped. After Srila Madhavendra Puri worship of both Radha and Krsna was established. For this reason Sri Madhavendra Puri is accepted as the root of worship in ecstatic love. Unless one is connected to the disciplic succession of Madhavendra Puri, there is no possibility of awakening the symptoms of ecstatic love.” (Caitanya-caritamrta Madhya 9.289 purport) “The process of worship in the disciplic succession of Madhvacarya was full of ritualistic ceremonies, with hardly a sign of love of Godhead; Sri Madhavendra Puri was the first person in the disciplic succession to exhibit symptoms of love of Godhead.” (Caitanya-caritamrta Adi 9.10 purport)
[PADA: Rupanuga has a great plan, we no longer need to be connected to the bona fide parampara, we need to be connected to his illicit sex messiahs project, which will take people to hell. Swell!]
“Out of the four sampradayas, Sri Madhva Sampradaya was accepted by Madhavendra Puri. Beginning from Madhvacarya down to the spiritual master of Madhavendra Puri… there was no realization of devotional service in conjugal love. Sri Madhavendra Puri introduced the conception of conjugal love for the first time in the Madhavacarya Sampradaya…” (Caitanya-caritamrta Madhya 4.197 purport)
Now according to the symptoms of Kali-yuga described in the Srimad Bhagavatam, things are degrading very quickly, considering only 5,000 years have passed out of 432,000 total. Fifty or sixty years ago abortion was criminal, rape was a capital offense, gambling was restricted to special locations, pornography and cursing in the media was forbidden and strictly monitored by government agencies, child abuse was rarely in the news, and “serial killers”, “home invasions”, and organized international terrorism were unheard of. Could it be that Lord Caitanya Mahaprabhu’s appearance in this particular Kali-yuga signals it to be especially pernicious? Winter is winter, but some winters are severe.
[PADA: And Rupanuga's messiahs are, according to Jayadvaita swami, "engaged in illicit sex with men, women and children." It sounds like Rupanuga's messiahs are behaving worse than the ordinary mundane citizens? Why doesn't Rupanuga's program get people to worship our local trash man, at least he is not engaged in illicit sex with men, women and children, he is more advanced than this?
Why can't Rupanuga's program select our trash man as their current messiah instead of the deviants his program has been selecting? OK Rupanuga is not advanced enough to worship a trash man. Clearly, he has selected his illicit sex messiahs instead of our trash man as his messiahs, because he is not elevated enough to worship a trash man.
Of course, this could take many lifetimes, as the Vedas explain, first of all one worships dogs and cats, then later one might be elevated enough to worship a sudra, then later worship a vaisya, a kshatriya, then much later on, worship of a brahmana -- and so on. Then again even dogs do not engage in illicit sex with men, women and children, nor do dogs worship such deviants. ]
Because Srila Prabhupada became the topmost preacher in the sampradaya in which Caitanya Mahaprabhu taught, he is qualified to be Acarya of all Vaisnavas in whichever sampradaya or community they may be. There is simply no higher Vaisnava siddhanta than Srila Prabhupada has already preached around the world, purporting exactly what Lord Caitanya and the Goswamis taught without changing the meaning, at all.
This is turning BILLIONS and BILLIONS of people away from the religion, which means Rupanuga's program is helping people to go hell and not surrender to Krishna. And as shastra says, false gurus and the people who support these false gurus -- will face severe reactions in their future incarnations. OK, they will go to the most obnoxious regions -- just for starters.
Shastra also says supporters of these false gurus would have been better off -- to have never even heard of the Vedas -- because even the ignorant karmis are much better situated than this lot. OK, the karmis will have a much more glorious future than these people.]
Out of the four bona fide Vaisnava Sampradayas, Lord Caitanya chose to appear in the Brahma-Madhva Sampradaya. Why He did so can be surmised from the following explanations in the Caitanya-caritamrta:
“Srila Bhaktisiddhanta remarks that in the disciplic succession of Madhvacarya – up to the advent of His Holiness Sripada Laksmipati Tirtha – only Lord Krsna was worshipped. After Srila Madhavendra Puri worship of both Radha and Krsna was established. For this reason Sri Madhavendra Puri is accepted as the root of worship in ecstatic love. Unless one is connected to the disciplic succession of Madhavendra Puri, there is no possibility of awakening the symptoms of ecstatic love.” (Caitanya-caritamrta Madhya 9.289 purport) “The process of worship in the disciplic succession of Madhvacarya was full of ritualistic ceremonies, with hardly a sign of love of Godhead; Sri Madhavendra Puri was the first person in the disciplic succession to exhibit symptoms of love of Godhead.” (Caitanya-caritamrta Adi 9.10 purport)
[PADA: Rupanuga has a great plan, we no longer need to be connected to the bona fide parampara, we need to be connected to his illicit sex messiahs project, which will take people to hell. Swell!]
“Out of the four sampradayas, Sri Madhva Sampradaya was accepted by Madhavendra Puri. Beginning from Madhvacarya down to the spiritual master of Madhavendra Puri… there was no realization of devotional service in conjugal love. Sri Madhavendra Puri introduced the conception of conjugal love for the first time in the Madhavacarya Sampradaya…” (Caitanya-caritamrta Madhya 4.197 purport)
Now according to the symptoms of Kali-yuga described in the Srimad Bhagavatam, things are degrading very quickly, considering only 5,000 years have passed out of 432,000 total. Fifty or sixty years ago abortion was criminal, rape was a capital offense, gambling was restricted to special locations, pornography and cursing in the media was forbidden and strictly monitored by government agencies, child abuse was rarely in the news, and “serial killers”, “home invasions”, and organized international terrorism were unheard of. Could it be that Lord Caitanya Mahaprabhu’s appearance in this particular Kali-yuga signals it to be especially pernicious? Winter is winter, but some winters are severe.
[PADA: And Rupanuga's messiahs are, according to Jayadvaita swami, "engaged in illicit sex with men, women and children." It sounds like Rupanuga's messiahs are behaving worse than the ordinary mundane citizens? Why doesn't Rupanuga's program get people to worship our local trash man, at least he is not engaged in illicit sex with men, women and children, he is more advanced than this?
Why can't Rupanuga's program select our trash man as their current messiah instead of the deviants his program has been selecting? OK Rupanuga is not advanced enough to worship a trash man. Clearly, he has selected his illicit sex messiahs instead of our trash man as his messiahs, because he is not elevated enough to worship a trash man.
Of course, this could take many lifetimes, as the Vedas explain, first of all one worships dogs and cats, then later one might be elevated enough to worship a sudra, then later worship a vaisya, a kshatriya, then much later on, worship of a brahmana -- and so on. Then again even dogs do not engage in illicit sex with men, women and children, nor do dogs worship such deviants. ]
Because Srila Prabhupada became the topmost preacher in the sampradaya in which Caitanya Mahaprabhu taught, he is qualified to be Acarya of all Vaisnavas in whichever sampradaya or community they may be. There is simply no higher Vaisnava siddhanta than Srila Prabhupada has already preached around the world, purporting exactly what Lord Caitanya and the Goswamis taught without changing the meaning, at all.
Therefore, Srila Prabhupada is everyone’s Acarya, a true universal Acarya, and actually the world Acarya beyond any doubt. Srila Bhaktisiddhanta and Bhaktivinode Thakur are also World Acaryas, teachers of everyone. But it is through Srila Prabhupada that these greatest of souls have acted in a missionary spirit, that same missionary spirit of Lord Caitanya Mahaprabhu. They are teaching through Srila Prabhupada, their perfect transparent medium and they must be understood through him, not directly. That is the meaning of parampara, one cannot jump over to a previous Acarya for understanding.
[PADA: Ok but this does not explain why Rupanuga's parampara contains illicit sex with men, women and children, and acharyas whom even Badrinarayan swami says, are falling down, left, right and center? They are not only jumping over the acharyas, they are stomping jack boots on the acharyas and the parampara by saying the parampara is chock full of deviants.]
For example, when asked whether his disciples could translate and publish the writings of other previous Acaryas after his disappearance, Srila Prabhupada replied, “A realized soul, must be. Otherwise, simply imitating A-B-C-D will not help. My purports are liked by people because it is presented as practical experience…
[PADA: And Rupanuga's deviants and illicit sex with men, women and children in the parampara program is not even ABCD level, its below sudra behavior. Even the sudras go to church, get married, work honest jobs, and try to have some sort of moral basis for their lives. Rupanuga has a long way to go, just to bring his parampara up to the standards of the ABCD sudras. In sum, it will take many lifetimes, maybe many kalpas, for Rupanuga's program to be advanced enough to worship a sudra as their messiah.]
In 1972, Sridham Mayapur, after a morning lecture all the assembled devotees were paying their obeisances to Srila Prabhupada. One old Bengali gentleman stood up, and leaning on his cane he spoke up loudly, “Save the whole world Prabhupada. Prabhupada save the whole world!” Yes! And in due time, people will understand the true meaning of “Prabhupada” – the Master (Prabhu) at whose lotus feet (pada) all others pay their obeisances. All glories to Srila Prabhupada…
[PADA: And Rupanuga's program has all sorts of deviants posing as padas, as gurus, as acharyas, as spiritual masters and as "acharyapadas" no less. Acharyapadas? The acharyas are falling at the feet of Rupanuga's deviants? This is an insult to the words guru, pada, acharyas etc.]
An Addendum to “The World Acarya”
Posted by Rupanuga das (ACBSP)
A couple questions were asked regarding the time and circumstances surrounding a quotation from Srila Prabhupada as it was included in “The World Acarya” article: “I am the tenth Acarya in line from Lord Caitanya Mahaprabhu and you are next.” Srila Prabhupada said the following during his arrival address at the Los Angeles Temple on May 5, 1972:
“So we have got this message from Krsna, from Caitanya Mahaprabhu, from the Six Goswamis; later on Bhaktivinode Thakur, Bhaktisiddhanta Thakur. And we are trying our bit to distribute this knowledge. Now tenth, eleventh, twelfth; my Guru Maharaj is the tenth from Caitanya Mahaprabhu, I am eleventh, you are twelfth.”
In the article, this last sentence was paraphrased from memory, but the meaning is still the same as Srila Prabhupada’s statement, which now becomes enhanced when taken in the context of his speech. He is obviously referring to his present disciples as the next in the disciplic succession he has just named and numbered, all of whom are directly initiating their own disciples.
[PADA: People who are promoting a guru program of persons engaged in illicit sex, are "in the disciplic succession"? They are as pure as Krishna? Srila Prabhupada also did not name anyone to be acharya.
Posted by Rupanuga das (ACBSP)
A couple questions were asked regarding the time and circumstances surrounding a quotation from Srila Prabhupada as it was included in “The World Acarya” article: “I am the tenth Acarya in line from Lord Caitanya Mahaprabhu and you are next.” Srila Prabhupada said the following during his arrival address at the Los Angeles Temple on May 5, 1972:
“So we have got this message from Krsna, from Caitanya Mahaprabhu, from the Six Goswamis; later on Bhaktivinode Thakur, Bhaktisiddhanta Thakur. And we are trying our bit to distribute this knowledge. Now tenth, eleventh, twelfth; my Guru Maharaj is the tenth from Caitanya Mahaprabhu, I am eleventh, you are twelfth.”
In the article, this last sentence was paraphrased from memory, but the meaning is still the same as Srila Prabhupada’s statement, which now becomes enhanced when taken in the context of his speech. He is obviously referring to his present disciples as the next in the disciplic succession he has just named and numbered, all of whom are directly initiating their own disciples.
[PADA: People who are promoting a guru program of persons engaged in illicit sex, are "in the disciplic succession"? They are as pure as Krishna? Srila Prabhupada also did not name anyone to be acharya.
If Prabhupada says, "you are next," -- Rupanuga's program think this refers to person who are often falling down? No, you are next, when you are qualified to be next, i.e. when you are yourself pure.
If kindergarten children are told by the teacher, "all of you in this class could be the next hospital brain surgeons," that does not mean we give these kindergarten children scalpels, and bring them into the surgery theater to chop open person's skulls for surgery?]
He is speaking about distributing the knowledge of the parampara by his disciples, whether they distribute the (same) knowledge as vartma-pradarsaka, siksa or diksa gurus, depending on the capacity and qualifications of the individual disciple.
[PADA: Diksha guru means they are absorbing sins. Srila Prabhupada said that if we neophytes act as diksha gurus we will get sick, fall down, or both, because we cannot absorb sins. The GBC is mass producing these alleged diksha gurus, but as we see, they are also mass producing themselves getting sick, falling down, and even -- getting arrested for crimes. Why is Rupanuga's program telling people they are like Jesus, they can absorb sins, when clearly, they cannot even absorb their own sins?]
The point is to expand on the principle that guru is one, not two. As Srila Prabhupada remarked elsewhere, if two gurus disagree, either one is not a bona fide guru or both are not bona fide. He means that because guru is one, all real gurus teach the same thing, Krsna consciousness.
[PADA: Apparently all the GBC agrees with Jayadvaita's program that says acharyas are often debauchees. Is there anyone of them who has protested this policy? It looks like they are "one," all of them are supporting the idea that acharyas are often degraded, fallen, and debauchees. Rupanuga was part of the 1986 guru reform, he thinks acharyas are deviants who need to be reformed. No, a person who needs correcting, censure, monitoring and reform is a neophyte, not a guru?]
That is what it means to be a guru as defined by Lord Krsna Himself. In the Gita, He tells Arjuna one must surrender to a guru humbly and render service to him, with inquiries; then that guru “will impart knowledge unto you…” That knowledge is defined in the next verse: “And when you have thus learned the truth, you will know that all living beings are but part of Me – and that they are in Me, and are Mine.” (4.35) In other words, Lord Krsna clearly defines the bona fide guru in terms of what he or she teaches: Krsna consciousness. God is one, guru is one, although teaching according to time and circumstances.
[PADA: Acharyas are falling down left, right and center, when was this taught by Krishna?]
So Srila Prabhupada is notifying his disciples that they are the next authorized gurus to distribute the knowledge, as he has done. Of course, he expected they would practice what they preached, that is the qualification and character. Only now, instead of one big guru, Srila Prabhupada, he envisioned many smaller gurus to continue distributing the (same) knowledge all over the world. Once before, he called it “old wine in a new bottle.” How else will Lord Caitanya’s Name be known in every town and village? Srila Prabhupada’s followers have the assignment.
Arjuna was told by Lord Krsna that the battle was already won, but Krsna wanted him to help make it happen and get credit for success. Similarly, Lord Caitanya said His Name would be known in every town and village. What God predicts comes true. Srila Prabhupada has given the chance – a matchless opportunity – for his followers to help the Lord execute His will. In whatever capacity, one can join with Srila Prabhupada in saying, “And we are trying our bit to distribute this knowledge.” That is, trying to pass it on as it is. All glories to Srila Prabhupada…
[PADA: Acharyas are falling down left, right and center, when was this taught by Krishna?]
So Srila Prabhupada is notifying his disciples that they are the next authorized gurus to distribute the knowledge, as he has done. Of course, he expected they would practice what they preached, that is the qualification and character. Only now, instead of one big guru, Srila Prabhupada, he envisioned many smaller gurus to continue distributing the (same) knowledge all over the world. Once before, he called it “old wine in a new bottle.” How else will Lord Caitanya’s Name be known in every town and village? Srila Prabhupada’s followers have the assignment.
Arjuna was told by Lord Krsna that the battle was already won, but Krsna wanted him to help make it happen and get credit for success. Similarly, Lord Caitanya said His Name would be known in every town and village. What God predicts comes true. Srila Prabhupada has given the chance – a matchless opportunity – for his followers to help the Lord execute His will. In whatever capacity, one can join with Srila Prabhupada in saying, “And we are trying our bit to distribute this knowledge.” That is, trying to pass it on as it is. All glories to Srila Prabhupada…
[PADA: And Rupanuga is misleading people like Torben Nielsen, Ajit Krishna and others, who also believe we need to give kindergarten children scalpels and begin the surgery, which is killing people.
To sum, Rupanuga's illicit sex guru program created banning, beating, molesting, and murders, and he is responsible for all these crimes -- and other crimes, such as turning billions of people away from Krishna, because he has supported his pal's regime that conducted all these crimes, including murdering our associates.
He has to clarify that this has nothing to do with Krishna, Srila Prabhupada, the Vedas, or even, common morality. When is he going to do that? Sulochana said that Rupanuga's gurus are "bloop-anugas," they are unable to follow.
And Rupanuga is the main promoter and apologist for his blooper--anuga's guru parampara. Yep, Mr. Blooper--anuga-pada, and he is still unaware of the chaos, pain, suffering, banning, beating, molesting, and murders -- he and his program has been causing, and still is causing? Or does he simply not care? Lest we forget, Srila Prabhupada says someone is giving me poison here, was this complaint coming from the actions of one of Rupanuga's blooper-pada messiahs? ys pd]
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Yes prabhu, in 1986 they all should have known about these deviations of their messiahs, including the 50 man committee of "reformers" which Badrinaryan, Hairvilas, Prithu, Trivrikrama, Jayadvaita, Rupanuga, Rocana, Suhotra, and others were part of.
ReplyDeleteRupanuga must have ALSO known about the New Vrndavana scandals because Sulochana was reporting that to his folks too. So yes, he probably knew, and yet these reformers reinstated Bhavananada and they wrote a big piece defending Kirtanananda.
So yes, it appears that Rupanuga knowingly places deviants in the seat of God's successors. Yes, I would say they do this knowingly. I know, I was one of the people reporting all this, so yes, they knew, or what?
Mukunda swami also knew, because Sulochana was calling him on the phone and reporting, they must have all known in our humble opinion, or they were dumb as rocks. And yes, now the GBC is spending apparently $20 million dollars suing the ritviks, so they can force the ritviks to accept their deviant acharya's program.
Yep, Rupanuga is one of the reasons for this lawsuit and giant waste of money, he supported the worship of his deviant pals as messiahs. Yes. As a senior man, he would probably have known about their deviations better than anyone else ... ys pd
Mahesh Raja says: Rupanuga das quotes this Los Angeles arrival lecture, May 18, 1972 to JUSTIFY they are INITIATING gurus:
ReplyDelete“So we have got this message from Krsna, from Caitanya Mahaprabhu, from the six Gosvamis, later on Bhaktivinoda Thakura, Bhaktisiddhanta Thakura. And we are trying our bit also to distribute this knowledge. Now, tenth, eleventh, twelfth ... My Guru Maharaja is tenth from Caitanya Mahaprabhu, I am eleventh, you are the twelfth. So distribute this knowledge. ( Los Angeles arrival lecture, May 18, 1972 )
Note: this Lecture only states about DISTRIBUTE the KNOWLEDGE: “And we are trying our bit also to distribute this knowledge.” “So distribute this knowledge”.
It is about DISTRIBUTE KNOWLEDGE it is NOT saying they are DIKSA guru. This has also been answered by the IRM folks long time back:
http://www.iskconirm.com/docs/webpages/IDS_no_answers.htm
[PADA: Well right, Krishna is the adi-guru, and Rupanuga thinks his falling down folks are number 33 / 34 / 35 etc. in the guru line from Krishna. Worse, he thinks when his parampara deviates he is going to reform and fix them, because he is like a roto-rooter repair man for broke down messiahs. What? The parampara breaks down and Rupanuga is the roto-rooter repair man? Sorry, shastra is clear, debauchees and their supporters are not in any parampara, except, they are in the parampara that is heading for the lower regions, and in that parampara, they are number one. What foolishness, the parampara breaks down into debauchees, and then Rupanuga, Rocana, Prithu, Badirinaryana and assorted other "guru reformers" are going to fix and repair and reform their broken messiahs. OK that means they not only think acharyas are fallen fools, they think they are superior to the acharyas because they are going to fix the acharyas when they deviate, they are the superior boss of the acharyas. The acharya needs a boss? And its Rupanuga? And all this time I thought Krishna was the boss of the acharyas? ys pd]
An insincere hypocrite cannot be a guru. One whose aspiration is for mundane activity cannot be a guru.Pseudo-gurus should be turned out and exposed. If one selfishly uses the gifts his disciples have surrendered to the Lord, taking them as a means to accumulate wealth, women and worldly fame, then he should be renounced immediately as a cheater. One should not listen to the words of such a rascal.
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