Happy New Year 2021 from PADA

PADA: We would like to thank all of our readers for visiting with us in 2020, and for all the nice questions and comments we are getting from various folks -- all over the place. We are working with various folks -- from all over the place -- and on helping a new professional book being written on the history of ISKCON and so on and so forth, so a lot of things are going forward. 

In addition, many new Prabhupadanugas are being made here, there and everywhere. So overall we are gaining traction. A nice devotee also just now wrote to tell me -- he was in a cloud of illusion after hearing from so many sources -- his head was spinning. And thus he was glad he found our site, because he found our idea to be the perfect solution. 

As Srila Prabhupada says, if we can save just one other soul, then our path to Vaikuntha is secured. Let us hope for 2021 we can save at least one other person, and hope the entire Prabhupadanuga process can save many, many souls over time, and in fact -- over upcoming centuries of time. We need to establish the actual foundation of the Krishna religion now, because it will be harder for people to grasp the reality of the history later on.

In any case, all glories to Srila Prabhupada and Krishna. Wishing all of you the best for 2021 and beyond. ys pd 

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God Only Cares -- If You Love Him (SP Video)

 

Bhaktivedanta Manor Advertising Itself as "Hindu Program."

Bhaktivedanta Manor Advertising Itself as "Hindu Program."

[from: Yasodanandan dasa]

"Vivekananda has no distinction of eating. 'Eat any... All is Brahman, all Narayana. You are Narayana. Goat is Narayana. So Narayana is going into the belly of Narayana. What is the wrong? One Narayana is going, being absorbed by another Narayana.' But he is not agreeable to be eaten by a tiger, another tiger Narayana.

(Srila Prabhupada, Room Conversation -- January 17, 1971, Allahabad)

Terrible things are happening in Bhaktivedanta Manor, where their "educational services" is openly promoting Hinduism, glorifying Vivekananda, Aurobindo, and female Mayavadi Hindu gurus, evidently -- not giving almost any reference to Srila Prabhupada on their website.

Hare Krishna, all glories to His Divine Grace A.C. Bhaktivedanta Swami Prabhupada.

It is noticed that the disastrous adulteration of Hare Krishna movement is taking place more and more, really everywhere. Why? Because the ISKCON leaders in charge of the official institution are compromising more and more -- just for money making and gathering followers. The following links from ISKCON educational services just throw merely one example as to how the movement gets corrupted due to extremely compromised ideas.

INSULTING SRILA PRABHUPADA BY COMPARING HIM WITH OTHER MAYAVADI LEADERS.

ISKCON educational services has started to compromise more and more by trying to give no importance to the transcendental teachings of Srila Prabhupada and even trying to compare him with Aurobindo and Vivekananda thus insulting him in the greatest possible way.

This link, https://iskconeducationalservices.org/HoH/tradition/movements-and-leaders/recent-spiritual-and-cultural-leaders/

Glorifies "Aurobindo" and "Ramana Maharshi" as prominent leaders along with Srila Prabhupada. 

Hṛdayānanda: (translating) He wants to know if the greatest offense is to disobey the guru.

Prabhupāda: Yes, that is the first offense. Guror avajñā, śruti-śāstra-nindanam. Śruti-śāstra-nindanaṁ guror avajñā. If you accept guru and again disobey him, then what is your position? You are not a gentleman. You promise before guru, before Kṛṣṇa, before fire, that "I shall obey your order; I shall execute this," and again you do not do this. Then you are not even a gentleman, what to speak about devotee. This is common sense. [Lecture on BG 2.11 (with Spanish translator) -- Mexico, February 11, 1975]

EQUATING HARE KRISHNA MOVEMENT WITH OTHER ATHEISTIC MOVEMENTS LIKE ARYA SAMAJ, RAMAKRISHNA MISSION ETC

https://iskconeducationalservices.org/HoH/tradition/movements-and-leaders/modern-hindu-groups-and-leaders/

A paragraph from the above link states "There are many different Hindu groups in the UK, and it would be misleading to consider one as more representative than another. Nonetheless, while keeping this in mind, it is important to know and teach about the main ones, briefly described below."

The darkened line simply equates all other nonsense movements with the Hare Krishna movement thus promoting so called Hinduism (or sahajiyaism). Is this not a great offense against all Vaishnavas? How can they dare try to even equate this eternal Hare Krishna movement with so called atheistic movements?

We have a distinct position that we are neither cheated nor cheaters. We are the genuine representative of Krishna who is the friend of all living creatures. We must play our part independently only on faith in Krishna and His bonafide representatives. [Letter to Brahmananda, 21st December 1967]

The Māyāvādīs, they have invented. In Calcutta, in Bengal, they have invented Kali kirtana." Kali kīrtana. The Ramakrishna Mission, they have invented Kali. "Why not Hari Kirtan? As we say... Because they are rival, if we say, "Hare Krishna," they will say "Kali, Kali, Kali," like that. This is going on. Kirtana does not mean any other demigod. Kirtana means of Vishnu. Śravaṇaṁ kirtanam Vishnu, clearly stated. But these bogus, so-called swamis and yogis, they cheat people, bluff people by their own concoction. That is the difficulty. Even if you speak the right truth, they are unable to receive it because they have been deceived by so many rascals. So kirtana means... Krishna says in the Bhagavad..., satatam kīrtayanto mam [Bg. 9:14], Krishna. He doesn't say that "Any kirtana will do." No. He doesn't say. Satatam kīrtayanto mam yatantaś ca dridha vrata [Bg. 9:14]. So, everything is there. Stick to Hare Krishna maha mantra and see the Deity always and have impression of the Deity. In whichever position you are, you'll be meditating and your life will be successful. Thank you very much. Chant Hare Krishna (end) Srimad-Bhagavatam class, [Sb. 3.2819], Nairobi, Africa. October 29, 1975

DESCRIBING SO CALLED LEADERS LIKE VIVEKANANDA AND GLORIFYING THEM

Few links below direct to the website of ISKCON educational services, which are promoting Hinduism and glorifying Vivekananda to attract cheap popularity.

https://iskconeducationalservices.org/HoH/further-information-and-teaching-resources-secondary/articles/art-1207-the-life-of-swami-vivekananda-1863-1902/

Srila Prabhupada:” Regarding George's foreword, you write to say that certainly there will be no more changes. Do you mean that the changes which you have already suggested in your letter dated 11th April with quotation from Swami Vivekananda are to be added? We cannot add any quotation from Swami Vivekananda. In your letter of April 11th, you have asked me to insert "What right has a man to say he has a soul if he does not feel it, or that there is a God if he does not see Him?" 

Do you mean I have to put in my KRSNA book all this nonsense quotation? This man (Vivekananda) [handwritten] has no understanding either of soul or of God and still he has posed himself as a Swami to mislead so many innocent persons. Understanding of the existence of soul is the beginning of teachings of Bhagavad Gita. If one has no understanding of the soul and God, he is no better than an animal because animals cannot have any idea of the soul or God. 

So how can I add these nonsense quotations? George's foreword as it was originally sent can be published with little editorial changes, but in no case can the quotation from Swami Vivekananda be placed in my book. You have already admitted in your letter dated 11th April that it hurts you to see this change, quoting a rascal like Vivekananda, so please let me know clearly what you want me to do.” [Letter to Syamasundara written from Los Angeles,24th April 1970]

Srila Prabhupāda: And he is considered to be a great scholar in Bhagavad-gītā, and when cow protection was requested, he said that "How can I do it? It is their religious principle." And he is a great big scholar in Bhagavad-gītā. All nonsense going on. Whole world is full of nonsense, mūḍhas, beginning from Gandhi to any rascal, all of them, rascals. Perhaps it is the first time we are detecting, "Here are all rascals." It is first time. Then we are enemy of everyone. We call everyone rascal—Gandhi rascal, Vivekananda rascal, Aurobindo rascal. So actually, they are, but people are thinking, "These people say all big, big men rascals? Therefore, they are rascals." [Morning Walk, Mauritius. October 03, 1975]

PROMOTION OF HINDUISM

https://hinduismre.co.uk/our-services/inset/

There is no such thing as Hindu dharma. No. There is no such word in the whole Vedic literature. You won't find in the Bhagavad-gītā or Bhāgavata as Hindu dharma. There is one word as Bhāgavata-dharma, but there is no such word as Hindu dharma. This Hindu dharma or Hindu... This is creation by our neighbor, Indian neighbor, the Middle-East Muhammadans. They gave the name, Indian people, as "Hindu." "Hindu" means... There is one river, Sindhu. [Lecture SB 02.02.05 - New York, March 5, 1975]

So Kṛṣṇa says, "All the varieties of life, it doesn't matter. I am their father." Ahaṁ bīja-pradaḥ pitā [Bg. 14.4]. Pitā means father. So Kṛṣṇa claims all living entities as His sons. But we may say that "Kṛṣṇa is Indian," "Kṛṣṇa is Hindu," or "Kṛṣṇa something." But no. Kṛṣṇa is actually the Supreme Personality of Godhead. So, this Kṛṣṇa consciousness movement was started by Kṛṣṇa Himself. Man-manā bhava mad-bhakto mad-yājī māṁ namaskuru [Bg. 18.65]. Srila Prabhupada discussion with John Lennon and George Harrison, London, England. September 11, 1969

PROMOTION OF SELF MADE WOMEN MAYAVADI GURUS

Another link (https://iskconeducationalservices.org/HoH/tradition/movements-and-leaders/famous-women-within-hinduism/), tries to adulterate the glories of pure devotees of Krsna by referencing female mayavadi self-made gurus .

Below is a small excerpt from the site itself which says:

"Today, Hindu women are prominent in all walks of life. Worldwide popularity has favored a number of female gurus, such as Mother Meera, “Nirmila Devi, and Amritanandamayi Devi. Indira Betti is particularly well-known in Britain. Mother Gayathri, a popular guru in Britain, is shown here."

While Meerabai is a devotee of Krsna, rest of these so-called female gurus are mayavadi and not devotees of Krsna. For a cheap popularity as well as money making, the website has compromised to the greatest extent.

Lord Chaitanya wanted that the message should be distributed in every village and town of the globe. Let us do this service as far as possible in all seriousness. We cannot make any compromise with anyone for cheap popularity. [Letter to Brahmananda, 21st December 1967]

We may not have many followers. We don't care for that. We don't want these nonsense followers, many thousands. What they will do? But if we can turn one man into Kṛṣṇa consciousness perfectly, he can do tremendous work in the world. That is our principle. We don't want nonsense. So, this is the principle of understanding Bhagavad-gītā. [Introduction to Bhagavad-gita As It Is -- Los Angeles, November 23, 1968]

It is already there. It is already there. You kindly take it... You understand. The difficulty is you do not understand even a line of Bhagavad-gītā. Still, you say that you are student of Bhagavad-gītā. This is difficulty. [Evening Darsana -- May 9, 1977, Hrishikesh]

A lot more discrepancies can be found by going through the website, but here only few are listed out. The tendency to compromise must be given up immediately and pure original books of Srila Prabhupada must be replaced soon to reestablish the movement.

"The reviews have very much encouraged me. Especially those of Prof. Bhatt and Prof. Vajpeye. I have personally written a letter of thanks to Dr. Bhatt, that he has so much encouraged me. Dr. Vajpeye's review we are going to print and widely distribute, especially in Bombay and Madras, where there is so much propaganda from these bogus gurus and yogis. He has got practical experience of how they are cheating the innocent people in foreign countries and he has written; "The authorized edition of Bhagavad-gita will help to stop the terrible cheating of 'gurus' and 'yogis' who are false and unauthorized. "Letter to: Svarupa, Ranadhira, Mayapur-3 February, 1976 Los Angeles

Hare Krishna Kirtan (Japan Edition) VIDEO

 https://www.facebook.com/yuki.maya.75/videos/1279874952396568

Why So Many Divorces? (SP Video)

 

Bangalore (FOLK) Bhagavad Gita Group (VIDEO)

 

[PADA: Good job. We need to expand the Vaishnava family as much as possible before Kali Yuga sinks down to the point where -- it will be very hard for us to even survive, much less preach. ys pd]

Srila Prabhupada's Original Letters

 https://drive.google.com/file/d/0BzR876u4ZuxEbF9XTlJsMVB1elE/view?

Kailash / Torben / E. Johansen / Hanuman Croatia "not sincere"? (JD and PADA)

PADA: (Summary of a phone call). JD says he has been a little baffled, and he wanted to know how the Kailash Chandra / Eric Johansen / Hanuman Croatia / Torben Nielsen program works in actual practice? They say: "The neophytes will attract spiritual guidance -- according to their level of sincerity -- and therefore if they are truly sincere -- they will attract a living pure devotee to come and associate with them." OK sign me up! Let us get sincere and attract the association of a pure devotee!

JD asks, why haven't these people attracted their OWN pure devotee for their OWN association in all this time? What is their actual association level? 

I said, for the past few decades Kailash Chandra has only attracted the association of his neighbors -- i.e. the meat eating folks. He lives almost always with the beef steaks society exclusively, and he shuns the association of actually ANY Vaishnava groups, including GBC, Gaudiya Matha, Ritviks, or any other Vaishnavas. Kailash says any sincere person will find a living guru, but he has found zero himself. 

What has Kailash and his followers found instead? Yep, the beef steaks association. It is a bluff, he has no "living guru" and he never will, neither do his followers have a living guru. It is all bluff. They are living with the beef steak society while claiming that lifestyle is going to attract a pure devotee to come to them. 

Srila Prabhupada never said that -- he said the opposite -- if we want to attract Krishna we have to associate with the Vaishnavas and promote the worship of the pure Vaishnava. He never said we should encourage people to avoid the Vaishnavas, and take shelter of the beef steaks society, and claim that is the method to attract pure devotees to come to us. It isn't. 

JD asks, if he will only attract the association of the meat eaters, and he shuns the Vaishnavas, does that not mean -- his level of sincerity is only at the meat eater association level? And since he shuns the general Vaishnavas, and lives basically alone with the meat eating people, does that not prove -- he is not even sincere enough to associate with any levels of Vaishnavas, even us neophytes, never mind find a pure one to be with? And why would he say -- the sincere person will find only the association of the meat eaters, and not the Vaishnavas? 

I said, according to his own idea, he is not even sincere enough to find a general kanistha devotee to associate with, never mind an uttama devotee, so yes, he lives alone in the middle of nowhere with the meat eating sector. And he thinks because he is only attracting the meat eater sector's association, that makes him "sincere." This has nothing to do with anything that Krishna teaches. Kailash is contrary to Krishna's teachings, Krishna says we should seek out Vaishnavas and avoid the meat eaters, Kailash has the whole process upside down. He seeks out the meat eaters and avoids the Vaishnavas, and so do his followers -- for the most part. He is training people to avoid devotees and surround themselves with the beef steaks society instead.  

JD asks, what "Vaishnava association" does he promote? 

I said, none actually. Neither does he advertise any Vaishnava programs, Vaishnava original book sites, or any other Vaishnava activities -- that we know of. He simply does not even try to lead others to the Vaishnava process. 

Anyone who watches his videos sees -- he has no deity photos, no photos of Srila Prabhupada, no devotional programs, no devotional activities, nor does he promote any etc. At least the GBC tries to insert in a photo of Krishna or Srila Prabhupada from time to time, Kailash never does. He shows us no devotees, no photos of Krishna, no programs, no preaching, no deity process, no book distribution, not even advertising our original book sites, no nothing. 

He is thus -- almost exclusively -- associated with the meat eating sector, and no Vaishnava programs / groups at all. So according to Kailash, his own level of sincerity is -- he can only attract the association of the meat eating class, because he is not sincere enough (according to his own idea) to attract higher levels of association. Worse, he is basically saying a sincere person will be exclusively associated with -- the meat eaters. What! 

Thus according to himself, he is not sincere enough, so he cannot attract any more pure association, or even any lesser pure kanistha Vaishnava association. Again let us be clear here, he lives with the meat eaters pretty much full time all the time, and meanwhile he shuns the Vaishnava's association. That means according to his own idea, he is not sincere enough to attract ANY FORM of higher association, or even lesser class Vaishnava association. 

Yep, all  that -- according to -- himself. 

In sum, according to Kailash, his level of sincerity only warrants him to attract the meat eaters class of persons as his main / almost exclusive association. So we agree with Kailash, a person attracts others according to their sincerity, and the Kailash level of sincerity only allows him to attract the association of the meat eater class. 

He is not elevated enough to attract any more pure association, or even any regulated devotee association, according to his own idea. A person will associate with his level of sincerity, and that means his level is -- to be associated with meat eaters, that is his association level. According to -- himself. When a person finally becomes "fully sincere," he will avoid the Vaishnavas and associate with the beef steak society. Where is that stated?

JD asks, how can a person who can only attract the association of the meat eaters -- then be telling me I am not sincere enough -- because at least I associate with the Vaishnavas and the Prabhupadanugas? I am associating with the Vaishnavas, and Kailash says that proves I am not sincere -- because I am not like him -- associating with the meat eaters all the time, with no photo of Krishna? 

That is making no sense at all? If we are sincere, we will be with the meat eaters and we will shun the Vaishnavas? Where did Srila Prabhupada ever say that? 

I said, no photo of Krishna on his videos, is ALSO mayavada. So he is more or less mayavada and associated with the meat eaters, then he says the people who worship Srila Prabhupada are bogus because they are not sincere. The sincere should follow him, and be with the meat eaters and reject Vaishnava association. 

JD says, he is lecturing me about how I need to be sincere -- like him -- so I will have no photo of Krishna and I will be rejecting the association of the Vaishnavas, like he does? That makes no sense? I am associated with fellow Prabhupadanugas, and he is associated with the meat eaters, and he is trying to say association with meat eaters is superior to my association with the Vaishnavas? JD says his head is spinning at the absolutely audacious hypocrisy here. 

JD says he is baffled. If we want to say the sincere Vaishnavas will reject association with the Vaishnavas, and instead associate with the meat eaters, and not even have enough devotion to display a photo of Krishna, is that not simply hypocrisy? So Kailash tells everyone they have to be sincere and then -- they will attract higher association -- like he has been doing -- and that means -- reject the Vaishnava association and associate with the meat eaters, and not even bother to display a photo of Krishna or Srila Prabhupada, which JD agrees, is mayavada?  

Then JD says, it seems the same program with the followers of Kailash like Eric Johansen / Torben / Hanuman Croatia etc.? 

I said, yes they are also avoiding all the Vaishnava groups and they too are living along with the meat eater class almost exclusively. And they too refuse to advertise for example our "original books sites" for preaching etc. because they have no interest in actually making others into Vaishnavas. 

JD says, at least we want to give others Krishna, so how is it -- we are inferior to the people who are not even bothering to place a photo of Krishna on their videos, and they are associated with the meat eater class all the time? How do these people get to be more elevated than those of us who are at least trying to serve Krishna, when they are doing basically none? Disgusting hypocrites! 

I said, as they themselves admit, they attract their association according to their levels of sincerity, and so they are basically only sincere enough to associate with the meat eater class and shun the Vaishnava class, according to -- themselves. I am so sincere, I associate mainly / only with the meat eaters and avoid the Vaishnavas. And I criticize anyone who worships the Vaishnavas. Yep, hypocrisy. 

Gaura Govinda Maharaja says the basic same thing. If we are sincere we will find the same level association as our sincerity. And he has been associated with the illicit sex with men, women and children acharyas program, that reinstated "illicit sex with taxi drivers" as their acharya -- and voted GGM in as guru at that same time. He has been associated with his own level of association, according to -- himself.

Thus the GBC circulates the writings of Kailash and GGM, because they are in league with one another, cheaters and bluffers. 

ys pd 

Vaikuntha Ekadasi Worship (Video)

PADA: Some people complain, hey PADA, why only show Bangalore's opulent temple worship? What about others? Hee hee, ok that is a great idea! Send us your YouTube links to your favorite Srila Prabhupada centered deity worship programs, big or small, and we can consider posting them as well. 

And we have had requests for people to make a deity worship training video with proper mantras etc., so anyone who can do that would be appreciated. Srila Prabhupada wanted big deity worship programs, so anyone who can do that is following his desires. In the spiritual world there are many big huge programs to serve and worship Krishna, we need to be trained in that process, if we ever expect to get there ourselves. 

At the present (virus) time -- not many people can even attend big temples. Fine, show us what you are doing, big or small program, and we can help others learn from your program. I am all for it. Make a YouTube link and we can spread it from there. ys pd 

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Neglected Servant of Jayapataka Financial Troubles

Servant : Gets No Service In Return 

 

Dear Devotees,

We have just learned about the difficult financial situation of our dear Isvara Prabhu, Mataji Teja Gourangi, and their two children. For one whole year, they are surviving without any income, since Isvara Prabhu has lost his job as a cook in one vegetarian restaurant in Austria. Due to Coronavirus, this possibility is now completely lost since they are living in Serbia. If we count his years of devotional service -- he should be one step to retirement, but unfortunately, that is not how things are functioning in our movement yet. 

[PADA: Yep, the GBC ONLY has a nice retirement program for their upper crust elites, but not the peons. Or barely anything. And they have had since 1977 to make something for the weak and fragile elders by now.]  

He gave his youth and life in book distribution, in running the centers in two cities in Serbia, in hosting and serving devotees, in cooking seva at Summer camps and for festivals, in traveling around in preaching mission and in cooking and personally serving HH Jayapataka Maharaja. 

[PADA: Yep, and another ISKCON devotee woman (Mahavegati dasi) just recently passed away and it was the same thing, she was not being cared for. And she was petrified of being put into an old folks home. She told me she would just jump off a bridge, but she is not brave enough to do so. 

In the end I believe she was put in some sort of old folks home, because she told me that is where she was headed. Again, no help for the peons. And this is putting the peons in a tremendous amount of stress and anxiety, which is the symptom of a demoniac society, and demoniac rulers of said society. 

She got roped into the Bhakti Tirtha swami program in Africa, with all sorts of disasterous consequences. Including, that her best friend was hacked to death when Bhakti Tirtha swami sent them into a known civil war zone. Mahavegati claims that is because Bhakti Tirtha had wrote love letters to that woman, and she was threatening to expose him if he would not marry her. The usual stuff, in bogus guru cults. Need we forget to mention that Bhakti Tirtha swami is still glorified all over ISKCON as some sort of saint?]

He also made the first (and only) chariot for the Lord Jagannatha and has organized many Ratha Yatras in Serbia. In recent times he is a responsible husband and father. They depend on their garden with vegetables and modest donations from Teja Gaurangis's mom. 

Even in the Winter, they cannot afford to pay heating bills, so Isvara Prabhu has to bring some wood from the local forest. Unfortunately, he is suffering from rheumatoid arthritis. Every morning the pain in his hands is so strong that it looks that he will not make it through the day. 

Only after few hours after struggling in the garden, the pain becomes tolerable.

This is one of those important opportunities when we can all sacrifice some of our money to help dear devotees who are in trouble. For us, this is the shortcut for getting Krishna's favor since He is especially weak about His devotees.

Their PayPal is iva.tot108@gail.com and Serbian bank account is Tamara Tot, 

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[PADA: Real question is, how many other victims are there like this one? Hundreds? Thousands? Tens of thousands? No one even knows for sure because they do not even keep track of all their victims. At least we at PADA are keeping track of a few. Ooops, I almost forgot to mention, Lord Yamaraja is keeping very exact track of all their victims, and he knows the exact amount more than we ever will. It is a lot, that much we do know.] 

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PADA: "Three things are said to be unbearable: the glaring eyes of the rishi, the glaring eyes of the serpent, and the glaring eyes of the weak. Weakness is more powerful than even the greatest power, for that power which is scorched by weakness is absolutely rooted out. If a weak or helpless person is humiliated or struck down and, while crying for help, fails to find a protector, divine punishment overtakes the ruler of that person and brings about his fall." 

- Mahabharata Shanti Parva

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Drage bhakte,
Nedavno smo saznali za tešku finansijsku situaciju u kojoj se nalaze naši dragi Ivešvara Prabhu i Teja Gaurangi sa dvoje dece. Naime već godinu dana žive bez ikakvih primanja, nakon što je Ivešvara prabhu ostao bez posla. Već dosta godina je kuvao prasadam u jednom restoranu u Austriji, a sada je zbog korone, sa tim sasvim gotovo. Po godinama i radnom stažu u svesnosti Krišne on je na korak do penzionisanja, ali na žalost takve stvari nisu regulisane u Međunarodnom društvu za svesnost Krišne. Svoju mladost i zrelu dob proveo je deleći knjige (mnooogo knjiga) Šrila Prabhupada, vodeći ISKCON centre u Somboru i Subotici, kuvajući i ugošćavajuči bhakte, bio je pokretač prve Ratha Yatre i izgradnje kočije, velikodušni kuvar na brojnim kampovima, putujući propovednik kao i lični sluga i kuvar HH Jayapataka Maharaja. U poslednje vreme predan otac i suprug. Jedino što sada imaju jeste bašta koju obrađuju i skromna pomoć Tejine majke. Čak i grejanje zavisi od dovlačenja drva iz šume. Na žalost Ivešvara Prabhu ima i zdravstvene probleme. U pitanju je početni stadijum reumatidnog artritisa. Svako jutro se bori sa jakim bolovima u ruci i deluje kao da neće moći taj dan da funkcioniše. Posle nekoliko sati bolnog rada u bašti ili sakupljanja drva, probije se prag bola i nekako se izgura taj dan.
Ovo su one dragocene situacije kada možemo zadovoljiti Krišnu na poseban način tako što ćemo pomoći njegovim bhaktama u nevolji. Takva služba je velika prilika za sve nas.
Novac im možete uplatiti na
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Answering A Prabhu's Many Questions (PADA)

On to the questions:

As you're probably aware, a Bhakti Yoga Club at American University in DC was literally shut down because a non-practicing Hindu girl complained that a Ramayan performance featuring whites was "cultural appropriation". My question: how to we respond to these criticisms? 

[PADA: First of all, it is a little surprising that any of "the Hindus" who come to America -- and who adopt the USA lifestyle for the most part -- could be so concerned about some "White folks" exploiting "their" Hindu culture. If anything the Hindus here have more or less appropriated the Western lifestyle, although they may have some little sentiment for Vedic culture -- and they might attend a temple from time to time. 

For that matter, India itself is largely a Westernized culture, where they appropriated huge sectors of Western technological culture. Then some of them complain -- we are appropriating theirs? They should be proud that at least some of us are taking up some parts of their culture. 

It seems to me that the Bhakti Yoga Club was not very smart in replying to this complaint, so they lost the argument by being weak and wishy washy. Madonna was once criticized for wearing a sari, and she basically said -- I have done more to promote your culture than you are doing. The Bhakti Yoga Club should have gone back and said, why are you people appropriating our Western culture? First of all, prove to us you have not stolen parts of our culture, then we can discuss who is stealing parts of yours. 

I also know various "Hindus" who eat meat, date USA women, and have very little connection to the actual culture of India. So they are appropriating other's cultures, and if some of them complain someone else is appropriating theirs, it is really hypocrisy. One of my "Hindu" friends here dates a USA woman, and he eats her meat cooking etc. but at least he says -- he is proud of me for adopting his culture. That would be the more realistic assessment. You folks are losing your culture, at least we are trying to preserve a portion of it.]    

There is a podcast called "Yoga Is Dead" run by two rather foul mouthed Gujarati immigrant women whose only purpose it seems is to insult whites. Should we just quote shastra to them and explain that "seeing color" is not only racist but adharmic? I have noticed a disturbing trend among both 1st and 2nd generation Indian immigrants to embrace an anti-white agenda (I do not use that term lightly). Should we just preach from shastra or should we first remove the veil of "intersectionality" with secular arguments, then proceed to quote shastra? 

[PADA: Naturally, various people of different nationalities, religions, castes, beliefs, colors etc. can become proud of their birth and so-called special bodily status. A lot of USA people also think they are the superior birth. Pride in one's birth is one of the features of illusion, and it affects a lot of people. However, if these Gujarati women are insulting Whites, the same question arises -- why are so many people in India adopting the "White's" Western lifestyle? 

If the so-called White's culture is so bad and rotten, then why are India folks adopting and following that culture? They are imitating the people they are insulting? So that would be my first question to those Gujarati ladies too, ok Western culture is rotten. So why are people all over India driving Western cars, going to Western movies, listening to Western music, dressing like Westerners, and working like Westerners in factories? And watching Pornhub, at least according to their statistics? And of course -- blabbering on Western style cell phones all day, as is done in the West? 

So it seems there is a little enviousness there. The Westerners are bad, and yet our "pure Hindu" country is adopting their process, but the Westerners are at fault. Well not exactly, the West is not forcing your culture to change to theirs? You people are doing that voluntarily. Of course yes, we are not these bodies. 

So in any case, these ladies are not realizing they should be elevating people by teaching them Vedic process -- we are not these bodies. They should not be discussing "who is White and who is Brown" -- and who is this and that -- our current body is a very temporary covering. So that means they are more or less identifying with the illusory temporary covering, so they are in a major illusion. That means, they are in the same bodily identity problem we have here in the West. That means they have lost their culture and its siddhanta, shastra etc.]  

Second, do you think that the Swaminaryaan Hindus will eclipse the Hare Krishna movement in popularity (if it hasn't already) in India and abroad? 

[PADA: The ISKCON Hare Krishna movement has been in decline for decades now. So anything that is run somewhat sensibly will overtake it -- and easily. At the same time, much of what appears to be ISKCON is not even in the legal name of ISKCON these days, they have shifted the charity names around because of lawsuits. 

And since ISKCON will sue anyone who uses the name of "ISKCON" for their preaching, most people have gave up on even trying to use that name. It is just not worth the trouble to try to start any "ISKCON" center these days. Better to call yourself by another title, and that is happening left, right and center. 

They ruined the good name on the one hand, and on the other hand they will fight tooth and nail to keep people from trying to give ISKCON good preaching or a good name. As soon as ISKCON Bangalore started giving ISKCON good publicity, the GBC immediately spent $20m to sue them and stop them. No one is even allowed to give ISKCON good publicity. Of course, if you want to connect "Hare Krishna" to pedophile acharyas and porno watching gurus and swamis, that is not only fine, but they will build you a samadhi and have you worshiped in the holy dham.

And many of the current apparent ISKCON temples have a number of Hindu type people signing on the legal board of directors. For example, one temple has evidently four Hindu types and one Western GBC person, but the GBC guy is in the minority vote, and so his vote can be over-run by the other four. In fact he could be voted off the board. And when he dies, he will be replaced by another Hindu type person, so the take over will be completed. 

And that is also why more and more temples are catering to the Hindus, and conducting Hindu weddings, funerals, car blessings and even demigod worship etc. Gradually ISKCON is turning into a Hindu type process, and even though sometimes Bhakti Vikas swami types complain about it, he is himself always in India -- with -- the Hindu population. 

So ISKCON has been transforming into a Hindu-ized program all along and it is accelerating more now. Looking at photos of temple programs, it is hard to find Western faces there in most places I have seen. They do not want the Western people there because, they ask too many questions about their bogus guru system. What happens eventually -- as the Western directors die off -- the ISKCON temples become more and more official Hindu programs. That might not be a bad thing mind you. They will eventually bring in their own gurus, perhaps better than a pedophile messiah's project. In sum, the GBC would rather have anyone else being worshiped -- as long as it is not Srila Prabhupada.]

I was very briefly a Swaminarayan Hindu from 2010-2011 but left due to the overt racism I faced (very few whites convert to this particular sect, as I later realized) I faced. 

[PADA: Yes, Srila Prabhupada was unique in trying to get the Western people involved, they are still not exactly welcome in a number of so-called Hindu programs or temples. The official Hindu temples in some cases do not allow lower castes born in India even, never mind Westerners. They are stuck in old school caste brahman-ism. That means many of these programs are having a hard time converting Westerners, but that is fine with me. Let them keep their caste-ism ideas to themselves.]

I have since (2019) discoursed with the future acharyas (of the original lineage) and was very underwhelmed. I do not see what the appeal is myself. The temples are nice but the substance is a blatant rip off of the Goswamis and Vallabha. 

[PADA: They are following general Vaishnava ideas, but evidently they think their guru is also some incarnation (mayavada). They also think the worship should be more focused on Lord Narayan -- and not the conjugal Radha and Krishna aspect. They are partly Vaishnavas, but more into the awe and respect idea, which is not really that bad in my opinion. 

However they cannot work together with any other Vaishnava groups. And if they think their guru is an incarnation of Krishna, that is more or less mayavada. So it is a mixed program, not unlike many other India "Krishna devotees" who also share some mayavada concepts. Srila Prabhupada said India is a hodge podge -- for a reason. There are many people who worship Krishna to some extent, but they are contaminated with misconceptions.

Their guru lineage also seems to be a sort of caste Goswami style process, so it is not gaining really dynamic preaching people -- at least so it seems. Same thing in ISKCON, they select the more pencil pushing corporate types as their leaders, those who will go along to get along. The mundane corporate types become their gurus, and they discourage the more active preaching types from taking a role. So it sort of gets mired down in bureaucracy type leaders who have little potency.] 

They say that follow Ramanujacharya but their Vachanamrut is like a marriage between Pushti Marga (Vallabha's sect) and Gaudiya Vaishnavism. I understand one of the Swaminarayan gurus, Muktajeevan Das, allegedly possesses women in India who were related to his followers (I swear to God I wish I were making this up) and that the women have had to be exorcised in a Hanuman temple in Sarangpur, India. 

[PADA: Well if we look under the sheets of a lot of these various guru sampradayas in India, we will find all sorts of exploiting, deviations, crimes and suppression. Including sometimes -- poisoning of the founder guru so the "successors" can grab the property. That is essentially what the GBC models their system after. We keep hearing about one guru scandal after the next over there, because there is little to no standard for acharyas, which is also why ISKCON acharyas are welcomed there.]

So with all the anti-cult info about ISKCON, should there be similar sites about Swaminarayan? In 2010 I was told by former acharya Tejendraprasad Maharaj that I would become a parshad (basically brahamachari on probation for full swamihood) but I was later told that I had to pay my own way to India! Things only got worse from there and within a year I left the sampradaya entirely.

[PADA: Yes, if they are exploiting others that should be exposed. The innocent should be saved from victimization -- from any bogus program.]

I actually never thought I would get a chance to email you. In 2008 I came into contact with Narayan Maharaj's Gaudiya Math through BV Bhagavat Maharaj. Bhagavat Maharaj told me on the phone, multiple times, that he was personally in charge of the investigation surrounding Prabhupada's poisoning. 

He told me that Satsvarup and Hansadutta had nothing to do with it and that Tamal was the main culprit (he didn't mention Bhakti Caru or Bhavananda). He told me that he left the brahmachari order as a result and only returned in the mid-late 90s. 

He told me that Prabhupad exhuded the "scent of sanctity" as described about the bodies of Catholic Saints. He said that the doctor was "amazed" that Prabhupada, despite being "poisoned THREE TIMES" hadn't died yet and that Prabhupada voluntarily gave up his body. Bhagavat Maharaj told me that he was the son of the ambassador to India and that his first memory was of him falling from Golok or something to that effect? 

I almost moved into the Gaudiya Math center. One of those guys is Abhiram Prabhu. He left the Gaudiya Math to teach yoga and is now a follower of Rama Krishna Paramahamsa (if you haven't read Jeff Kripal's book on that guy, it's a must!). 

[PADA: Rama Krishna mission is currently under attack for placing photos of Jesus and Mary on their altars, and advocating worship of Jesus. Of course we think that is an improvement from worship of Rama Krishna. But yes, many ISKCON devotees go off the reservation and worship other sects. 

Various devotees went to see Mother Amma here and so on. Basically, people are shunning ISKCON due to its homosexual and pedophile guru sampradaya. It will never be popular, ever. Of course then we have the next problem, can people find a better option if they reject the Krishna religion? That is why we encourage people to just focus on Prabhupada, and not his ersatz second tier illicit sex messiahs.]

Bhagavat Maharaj tells us to stay off your PADA website and that you are "envious of others". Quite frankly, I thought this was rich coming from the guy whose shiksha guru, Narayan Maharaj, openly embraced a pedophile, scam artist, and literal murderer Kirtanananda Swami in Florida a year or so before the former's passing. 

[PADA: Well yes, Narayan Maharaja was always hugging Tamal, Indradyumna, Satsvarupa, Sivarama, Giriraja et al. and even Kirtanananda. NM invited me to his ashram after I launched the poison issue, after he had been saying I was a basically a demon for claiming pure devotees can be attacked. 

So NM claimed he wanted to discuss all this with me and iron these issues out, and so I went there and sat outside his room from 8 am to 5 pm, but NM never invited me into his room. Then, the followers told me NM had left the building to go to a Hindu program. So that means, NM was embarrassed that he had supported the pedophiles and poisoners party as "Krishna's successors" and he was not going to be able to answer even one of my questions. 

Of course now Bhagavat Maharaja, Jadurani etc. are big advocates for Narayan Maharaja, who has been the chief cheer leader of the GBC's pedophile acharya's program. So they are compromised with the worship of homosexual pedophiles as God's successors, and that is why they do not like PADA. Narayan Maharaja helped Satsvarupa write the "Guru Reform Notebook," because he was not happy that there were only just a few of his illicit sex acharya pals in ISKCON. 

NM wanted to expand the number of deviants posing as acharyas to -- many more -- to be voted in -- as happened. Of course Narayan Maharaja wants the same people who reinstate homosexual pedophiles as their Vishnupada acharyas to be "the voters" in his guru club. As happened.

So NM was always working with these GBC ilk guys almost the whole time. Later on he had to accept the poison issue because we overwhelmed him with the facts. We kind of beat him into submission by our constantly complaining NM is "kissing the feet of Judas." We finally got to him by pointing out that his serving Judas is not a good plan. 

NM also said that the molested children are just getting their karma, so it is amazing he thinks he is authorized to promote his pedophile guru's programs and give others "their bad karma." How is NM and his clan authorized to give children suffering, they never explain, neither do his advocates like Jadurani. 

No one is authorized to dish out suffering to children -- that belong to Krishna's family. I am robbing the bank, because that is the karma of the bank? It is like the devotee here -- who gave up on Krishna -- and he told me he can go back to eating hamburgers, because the cow has the karma to be made into a hamburger. And NM folks think -- this all makes sense?  

These people think they are authorized to co-create an anal reconstructive surgery epidemic in Krishna's children. Thus, may God help them when they get to the planet where Yamaraja's agents poke red hot pokers into these people's rear ends, to let them know how well their program is appreciated there. They still think NM did a good job supporting his anal reconstructive surgery of children sampradaya! Nope, this is a sampradaya that is going straight to hell ... no question, at least if we believe shastra.

Then again we had the HKC Jaipur / Sanat / Mukunda / Janardan / Pancali / Prahlad et al. group, who were all crying buckets of tears when they found out their anal reconstructive surgery of children messiahs program was in trouble. Jeepers, boo hoo, gimme a kleenex already! Then these people make pretend they do not know how come children have been worshiping the pedophile messiah's program -- that they have been defending? People are worshiping your pedophile messiah's program -- because you folks collectively resist any serious attempts to dismantle it.]      

I asked Pran Govinda (the brahmachari who is still in GM) about this and he gave me the textbook cognitive dissonance "I don't know" answer. 

[PADA: Yep, the know nothings party.]

I was also briefly affiliated with IRM. I was actually supposed to distribute BTP at the festival but by God's mercy, I cancelled at the last minute. That day, the guys were physically attacked by Ravindrasvarup. Talk about luck! Anyway, it is late here and I must retire to my bed. I look forward to hearing back from you prabhuji. 

[PADA: The IRM was very upset with me for my not agreeing to compromise with the GBC. They wanted me to quit writing, because then they could make a deal with Hrdayananada and Jayapataka. That is called illusion. 

Well it looks like you survived the war more or less intact, and that is the most important thing. We were all victimized by all these events, but the good news is we can still take shelter of Krishna and Prabhupada, and no one and no thing can block us from that. ys pd] 

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Prabhupāda: They... It is very difficult. Harāv abhaktasya kuto mahad-guṇāḥ. speak all these big, big words they have no qualification. Only disqualification is that they do not accept God as Supreme and His instruction is...

Dr. Patel: He may be accepting God as Supreme, but not (indistinct).

Prabhupāda: That is their imagination. God is canvassing, "Yes, I am here." 

Mattaḥ parataraṁ nānyat [Bg. 7.7]. "Why don't you think that I am the Supreme?" But these rascals will never believe it. And still they'll write Gītā-pravacana. Very dangerous. Gītā is spoken by God.

Dr. Patel: (indistinct)

Prabhupāda: Some portion. He wanted to prove himself that he is Puruṣottama.

Dr. Patel: He's not Puruṣottama. He does not say that. Puruṣottama is really reality in true sense and...

Prabhupāda: But his disciples say he is more than Kṛṣṇa.

Dr. Patel: Disciples..., disciples...

Prabhupāda: That means why he has created such nonsense? If the disciples say something wrong, then that means he is also wrong. These people will never say that "Our Guru Mahārāja is more than Kṛṣṇa." They are not so nonsense. They will say "My Guru Mahārāja is servant of Kṛṣṇa and I am his servant."

Dr. Patel: He has said Puruṣottama is svarūpa. It cannot be a... Anything which is infinite cannot be grasped by finite senses. That's what he said.

Prabhupāda: This is going on. But disciples say that Aurobindo is more than... This is their knowledge.

Girirāja: That means he's failed as a guru. He hasn't...

Prabhupāda: He could not give them right knowledge. Phalena paricīyate. The paricīya is to be understood by the result. The disciple is the result. If they are so fool, then what is the guru?

Dr. Patel: Vaiṣṇava-paramparā, Vallabhācārya, the whole lot is now. I have seen it.

Prabhupāda: They are criticizing us.

Dr. Patel: This thing is the God has to reincarnate Himself again to reestablish bhāgavata-dharma.

Prabhupāda: That is everywhere. If you don't mind, your Swami Nārāyaṇa is also like that.

Dr. Patel: All of them. They are. That is why, I mean, liberation is created by God again by incarnation.

Prabhupāda: They create a cheap God. Real God they reject. That is going on.

Dr. Patel: Swami Nārāyaṇa said that (Sanskrit). Only to worship Kṛṣṇa. Nobody else. Unfortunately the disciples... Suppose disciples...

Prabhupāda: That the same thing. If the disciples are rascals, then what is the guru?

Dr. Patel: The disciple is being called guru-Kṛṣṇa again. That is what happens in all the other Vaiṣṇava. They say Vallabhācārya Mahāprabhu in place of Kṛṣṇa. That is wrong. Yathā. Yathā deve parā bhaktir yathā deve tathā...

Prabhupāda: Gurau.

Dr. Patel: Gurau. That is fact. Then you can get the real, I mean, kṛpā of guru and realize God. But they're...

Prabhupāda: These things happened by Vallabhācārya. That's a long history generally. They call him Mahāprabhu to make competition with real Mahāprabhu, Caitanya Mahāprabhu.

Dr. Patel: Vallabhācārya was disciple of Caitanya Mahāprabhu.

Prabhupāda: Not disciple. Very admirer. But when He criticized strongly on account of his attacking Śrīdhara Svāmī...

Dr. Patel: Caitanya Mahāprabhu differs in philosophy from Vallabhācārya. He did.

Prabhupāda: Yes. But they were friend, Vallabhācārya and Caitanya Mahāprabhu. So he wanted to present his (indistinct) Gītā to Caitanya Mahāprabhu, that "You'll find better than Śrīdhara Svāmī."

Dr. Patel: That is the highest

Prabhupāda: So He became very dissatisfied. He... Because friendly, He said that "If you don't accept svāmī, then you are a veśya." These words He recited, svāmī nā māne yei jana veśyāra. These are there, these words.

Dr. Patel: Vallabhācārya's establishment of his own family members as the paramparā is wrong. That is why the whole system has degraded.

Prabhupāda: Yes. Not śiṣya-paramparā.

Dr. Patel: Śiṣya-paramparā is the right... The same thing is happening in Swami Nārāyaṇa's. They have degraded. Because Swami Nārāyaṇa actually put his two nephews as ācārya. That was wrong. In South with Rāmānujācārya, they have got a śiṣya-paramparā. But they have also degenerated.

Prabhupāda: No... Sons also may become śiṣya provided he's qualified. Otherwise not.

Dr. Patel: (indistinct) the real fellow. Real. They this śiṣya-paramparā in two...

Prabhupāda: Śiṣyān ca putrān ca. There is no difference. But not because he is śiṣya of such person or putra of such person. Not like that. Either śiṣya or putra.

Dr. Patel: The guru-śiṣya is as good as putra. More than a putra. To a real guru the śiṣya is more than a putra.

Prabhupāda: For guru there is no difference. But the real thing is qualification. That gotra, our gotra, that is applicable to the śiṣya and to the putra.

Dr. Patel: That is in śiṣya-parampar they have got that... Gautama.

Prabhupāda: Gotra... Just like gotra, Kasya-gotra.(?) This gotra means this family, either śiṣya or putra. Just like Gautama-gotra, there are many brāhmaṇas, kṣatriyas. So those who are brāhmaṇas, it means putras and those who are kṣatriyas and vaiśyas, they are śiṣyas. But the gotra is the same. So we shall go down. (end)

Link to this page: https://prabhupadabooks.com/conversations/1977/jan/morning_walk/bombay/january/04/1977

Dr. Patel: Yes, Rāma mandiras have all degenerated.

Prabhupāda: There was no Rāma. The guru's picture. He's Rāma.

Dr. Patel: That is Rāma. All the temples of Sañjaya (?), there is always Kṛṣṇa's (indistinct) there. [break]

Prabhupāda: ...(indistinct) What is this?

Guest (2) (Indian man): No, no. He is from that sampradāya. [break] They worship God as Swami Nārāyaṇa. My Lord is Nārāyaṇa. Swami means the Lord, and Nārāyaṇa is the Lord. So they say always "Swami Nārāyaṇa, Swami Nārāyaṇa." Just like we chant Hare Kṛṣṇa, Hare Kṛṣṇa, they chant "Swami Nārāyaṇa, Swami Nārāyaṇa, Swami Nārāyaṇa." The Lord is Nārāyaṇa, God is Nārāyaṇa, God is Nārāyaṇa. So Swami is Nārāyaṇa. You see, actually what did he preach, "Our Swami is Nārāyaṇa." So they have Swami Nārāyaṇa song.

Prabhupāda: That is Māyāvāda. That is Māyāvāda.

Guest (1): That is Māyāvāda, or whatever it may be.

Dr. Patel: Everything is Māyāvāda.

Guest (2): Oh, Lord is Nārāyaṇa.

Prabhupāda: As soon as we say, "Our Swami is Nārāyaṇa," it is Māyāvāda.

Dr. Patel: It is not that. It is... What he says is not right.

Guest (1): No, that is, I understand. I have not...

Dr. Patel: You read all the magazines that I have read. He accepts... [break]

Prabhupāda: ...Vivekananda has done: daridra-nārāyaṇa. Here is "Swami Nārāyaṇa."

Dr. Patel: That is different also. You don't put up two together.

Prabhupāda: No, no. Same thing. Another...

Dr. Patel: Don't get excited or it will be...

Prabhupāda: No, no. I'm not getting excited. You are getting.

Guest (1): You also don't get excited.

Dr. Patel: I am not getting excited, but it's not that. I will really bring you the real...

Prabhupāda: No, no. I am asking what is the difference between this daridra-nārāyaṇa and Swami Nārāyaṇa? That I am asking.

Dr. Patel: See, he actually went to Badrinath. When we call Nārāyaṇa, Nārāyaṇa, as our Lord, how is it Māyāvāda? How it comes into Māyāvādī?

Prabhupāda: That is explained by Viśvanātha Cakravartī Ṭhākura. Sākṣād-dharitvena samasta-śāstraiḥ. Guru is accepted as good as God. Haritvena samasta-śāstraiḥ. Saba-śāstra.

Dr. Patel: In all śāstras.

Prabhupāda: Sākṣād-dharitvena samasta-śāstrair uktaḥ **, it is said. Sākṣād-dharitvena samasta-śāstrair uktas tathā bhāvyata eva sadbhiḥ **. And this principle is accepted by great saintly persons. Kintu prabhor yaḥ priya eva tasya. He's not one with the Prabhu, but he's very dear servant of Prabhu.

Dr. Patel: That is right.

Prabhupāda: That conception is Vaiṣṇavism. And as soon as you simply say that "He is God," that is Māyāvāda.

Guest (2): Yes but we are not... But he has wrongly...

Guest (1): No, Swami Nārāyaṇa, what I told you the principle of Swami Nārāyaṇa is that...

Guest (2): Swami Nārāyaṇa...

Dr. Patel: You have no right to speak.

Guest (1): No, no. What I understand about this...

Dr. Patel: There are three schools of Vaiṣṇavism. But that... In that school, the preaching and everything in the worship is the same, more or less.

Prabhupāda: [break] The thing is... This is the conclusion, that guru may be worshiped as Kṛṣṇa, but the worshiper knows that "I am worshiping my guru not because he has become Kṛṣṇa, but he is the most confidential servant of Kṛṣṇa." That is Vaiṣṇava.

Dr. Patel: All the Vaiṣṇavas, what he has said. Every time he has said the same thing.

Prabhupāda: This is the difference between Vaiṣṇava school and Māyāvādī school. Advaita-vāda and dvaita-vāda. They become very strong, at the same time, remain servant.

Dr. Patel: These śuddhādvaita-vādīs, their upper garment and lower garment the same as... [break] ...you call Māyāvādīs, they say that this is all humbug and nothing and nonexistence. They... [break] ...both are one and both are right and both are existent and both are... There is no illusion, as you say. The same thing.

Prabhupāda: Simultaneously one and different.

Dr. Patel: That is a little (indistinct)

Prabhupāda: So unless you accept this difference, then it is Māyāvāda. Simply oneness is Māyāvāda

Dr. Patel: That's right. You may... You accept one and the same, separate both or another explana..., another, only Kṛṣṇa knows and nobody knows.

Prabhupāda: No, no. No, why Kṛṣṇa knows? One who is Kṛṣṇa's devotee, he knows also.Link to this page: 

https://prabhupadabooks.com/conversations/1974/mar/morning_walk/bombay/march/24/1974

Most Important Slokas 1972 Bhagavad Gita As It Is

https://theharekrishnamovement.org/2020/12/25/108-imporant-slokas-from-the-1972-bhagavad-gita-as-it-is-2/

Divine And Demoniac Agendas Across the Universe (Video)

 

[PADA: Nicely done, evidently by an ISKCON follower. ys pd]

Merry Christmas: A Few Words From Srila Prabhupada (Repost)

 https://krishna1008.blogspot.com/2017/12/merry-christmas-with-few-words-from.html

Have a Mary Mary Christmas

 

Hanuman Croatia's Tamal Krishna Swami Roots

 

https://lastingimpression.info/

[PADA: Thanks JD for your question about Hanuman dasa (Croatia). He still lists his source of "diksha" as one of the ISKCON GBC's gurus (Sridhar swami), which he admits are simply corporate figureheads and not gurus actually. So he is still fully advertising the GBC's guru parampara, despite our forcing people like him to admit it is bogus. And it is interesting that he selects the members of the "Tamal groupies" club as his source of his diksha. 

It is amazing that the Hanuman GBC guru program promotes that a diksha guru is a person who (A) absorbs sins like Jesus, and (B) members of a homosexual pedophile diksha guru program can ALSO absorb sins -- (because they too are equals to Jesus?). Of course some of our readers have asked "why do these people hate Jesus, so much so, they are juxtaposing Jesus with homosexual pedophiles -- posing as another sin absorbing diksha guru like Jesus"?   

The "Tamal groupies" are part of the group from the 1970s, people like: Hrdayananda, Jayadvaita, Trivrikrama, Indradyumna, Sridhar swami, BB Govinda, Danavir, Gunagrahi, Sivarama, Giriraja, Mahatma das, and similar others. It is amazing that Hanuman advertises his guru as the so-called Sridhar "jolly swami" -- who is always laughing -- while the devotees his program victimizes are being banned, beaten, molested, sued and assassinated. "It is sadistic to laugh while others are suffering" is what more than one victim tells PADA.  

What kind of person is jolly and laughing when his program's victims are suffering? Did we forget to mention Tamal's program had to be sued for $400,000,000 for mass child abuse. Is this a program we should be the "jolly swami" participants of?

The Jolly Swami (center) People keep asking PADA: why is it that the illicit sex with men, women and children messiah's club, which is banning, beating, molesting, suing, and assassinating Vaishnavas, is considered by some folks as -- the jolly swami program? Jolly for whom? And what is the future life of people who are mis-leading others in the worship of illicit sex with men, women and children guru lineages? Good questions!

At the same time, Sridhar has been a huge fan of Radhanath, and he was hanging out in Bombay with Radhanath. And when he was sick he was staying at the Radhanath health clinic. So Hanuman Croatia makes pretend he is against Radhanath baba, but he worships the people who promote Radhanath baba as -- another sin absorbing Jesus-like person? Yep, we worship the people who assist the pedophile samadhi's program's leaders? 

Then Hanuman says we should worship maybe Kailash Chandra, who writes papers basically saying it is a waste of time to worship Srila Prabhupada because we need to go out find another guru, a so-called live guru. And so people leave ISKCON to find the live guru, or they worship Hanuman's live GBC guru program. And that is why Tamal's groupies like Trivrikarma have been circulating Kailash's papers in ISKCON. And Kailash writes for Rocana's web site, where we Prabhupadanugas are criticized for worship of the post-samadhi, posthumous, and post mortem guru -- Srila Prabhupada. 

Of course if we want to worship Sridhar's "living pedophile's guru parampara," that will take us to God. OK not really!     

So it seems like Hanuman has not yet left off the GBC's false platform in actual fact. He is still tethered to their main players like Radhanath baba's twin brother Sridhar swami. Did I forget to mention, these guys combined first buried a pedophile and later a porno swami in samadhi in the dham? The Tamal groupies are behind many or most of these deviations. 

Did we also forget to mention Tamal is the prime suspect in the poison complaint from Srila Prabhupada? Anyway, Hanuman is compromised with these people, that is very clear. Sridhar was part of the Tamal groupies group, and he was made into a big GBC hero for joining together "the Tamal group" with "the Kirtanananda group." They used to say Sridhar is the "peace making expert" and "bridge builder" of ISKCON. Yep, he joined together the poisoner party with the pedophile party. And Hanuman worships the people who join these programs together? 

And Hanuman still advertises the "bridge builder" of the pedophile messiahs with poisoner messiahs -- on his site NOW? And building bridges between the pedophile messiahs and poisoner messiahs is something Hanuman "finds in Srila Prabhupada's books"? And then there is the devotee who said "everything Tamal touches dies." Ummm, including his bogus guru program, and ISKCON?   

Of course Hanuman Croatia also promotes Bhakti Vikas swami, the sannyasa disciple of the pedophile messiah club's worst leaders in Mayapur. These people treated the devotees like dirt, and the children as less than dirt. And that is why he is the hero of Hanuman Croatia. I hope this clears up these issues. 

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Melt down at the Kailash Chandra camp:

https://krishna1008.blogspot.com/2020/12/kailash-chandra-folks-books-give-diksha.html

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Radhika Astakam

 Sri Radhikastakam

Srila Krsnadas Kaviraj Goswami

kumkumakta kancanabja garvahari gaurabhapitananci tavja gandha kirti nindi saurabhaballavesa sunu sarva banchitartha sadhikamahyamatma pada padma dasya-dastu radhika

kauravinda-kanti-nindi-citrapatta satikakrsna matta bhringa keli phulla-puspa batikakrsna nitya sangamartha padma bandhu radhikamahyamatma pada padma dasya-dastu radhika

saukumarya srista pallavali kirti nigrahacandra-candanotpalendu sevya sita vigrahasvabhimarsa vallabhisa kama-tapa badhikamahyamatma pada padma dasya-dastu radhika

visva-vandya yaubatabhi-vanditapi ya ramarupa-navya-yavnadi sampada na yaisamasilahardya lilaya ca sa yatosti nadhikamahyamatma pada padma dasya-dastu radhika

rasalasya gita narma satkalali-panditaprema-ramya rupavesa sadgunali manditavisva-navya-gopa-yosidalito’pi yadhikamahyamatma pada padma dasya-dastu radhika

nitya-navya rupa keli krsnabhava sampadakrsna-raga-bandha-gopa yaubatesu kampadakrsna-rupa vesa keli lagna sat-samadhikamahyamatma pada padma dasya-dastu radhika

sveda-kampa-kantakasru gadgadadi sancitamarsa harsa vamataki bhava bhusanancitakrsna-netra tosi-ratna mandanali dadhikamahyamatma pada padma dasya-dastu radhika

ya ksanardha krsna-viprayoga santotoditaneka-dainya capaladi bhavavrinda moditayatnalabdha krsna sanga nirgatakhiladhikamahyamatma pada padma dasya-dastu radhika

astakena yastanena nanti krsna ballabhamdarsanepi sailajedi yosidali durlabhamkrsna sanga nanditatma dasya sidhu bhajanammahyamatma pada padma dasya-dastu radhika

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I pray that Srimati Radharani offers me the shelter of her lotus feet. Her complexion defeats the pride of the colour of molten gold with the tinge of kumkum. She fulfills all the desires of Krsna.

The colour of her silk sari makes the colour of coral feel ashamed and she is the flower garden where a wild bumblebee called Krsna plays. I pray to Srimati Radharani that she offers me the shelter of her lotus feet.

Her tenderness defeats the tenderness of newly developed leaves and she is the personification of coolness - a combination of sandalwood paste, camphor, lotus and the moon. By her touch she cools down the amorous desires of Krsna. I pray to Srimati Radharani that she offers me the shelter of her lotus feet.

Although Laxmi devi is worshiped by all young damsels throughout the world still she is nowhere near Srimati Radharani in beauty, youthfulness, nature and pastimes. Nowhere in the material or spiritual world is there anyone who is superior in quality to Srimati Radharani. I pray to Srimati Radharani that she offers me the shelter of her lotus feet.

She is very expert in dancing, singing and other such activities. She is decorated with exquisite beauty, dress and wonderful qualities. She is the best of all swans. I pray to Srimati Radharani that she offers me the shelter of her lotus feet.

With her every blossoming beauty, activites and feelings she creates joy in the hearts of the gopis who are on her side and she creates anguish and pain in those who are on the opposite side. I pray to Srimati Radharani that she offers me the shelter of her lotus feet.

She is decorated with eight kinds of ecstatic symptoms: sweating, trembling, tears, choking of her voice, etc. She is also decorated with anger, joy and negative feelings. She dresses herself with beautiful ornaments in order to give pleasure to Krsna. I pray to Srimati Radharani that she offers me the shelter of her lotus feet.

She cannot tolerate separation from Krsna, even for a fraction of a second. Her anguish is overcome by her friends who carry messages to unite her with Krsna. Thus her anguish turns into ecstasy. I pray to Srimati Radharani that she offers me the shelter of her lotus feet.

Even persons like Parvati, the wife of Lord Siva, do not get to see Srimati Radharani. Srimati Radharani and her friends become quickly pleased by one who worships Srimati Radharani through these eight verses and very quickly she offers him devotional service to Krsna. I pray to Srimati Radharani that she offers me the shelter of her lotus feet.

"Mandatory Vaccine" For Religious People Imbroglio

https://www.yahoo.com/huffpost/employers-require-coronavirus-vaccine-180351235.html

PADA: Someone send PADA a petition -- to NOT allow the government to mandate vaccines in the USA. And! There should be a religious exemption. Yep a petition, that is really going to shake up the USA top brass! 

Seems to us -- the USA government will not mandate the vaccine -- because it would be politically dicey. "Sounds like communism to me"!

Much more likely scenario is -- the private sector companies will require their workers to have the vaccine, and especially where workers are interacting with the public -- like nurses, taxi drivers, supermarket workers, and any other workplace where the workers are in enclosed spaces together. There could eventually be some kind of certificate or receipt and that will be needed as "proof." 

Churches and temples might need to have congregation members show proof of vaccine in order to keep up their building's insurance policy, and so on and so forth. Already happening, some churches are afraid if a congregation person gets the virus on their property, the church or pastor might get sued for negligence or etc. We know of at least one church that is staying empty for this very reason.   

And that means, really almost no one is taking the original White House "it is a hoax" idea very seriously nowadays. Then their next genius plan was "herd immunity," another plan not taken very seriously nowadays, to have 80 percent of the population infected. That would evidently take 6-10 years and would produce 1-2 million dead, so it was never a popular scheme all along. Never mind there is no actual and factual herd immunity with a virus, it can re-infect. 

Actually the herd immunity idea, to get the mass of people infected and then treat them with counter products like antivirals etc., can more readily create new virus strains and mutations -- perhaps more deadly than the original version. A virus can mutate / change to adapt to these treatments. So mass infections, then mass treatments -- is a recipe for new strains of the virus -- at least evidently. This begs the question, planned mayhem, or just plain incompetence?

This process may be happening now, we are already looking at "new strains." So theoretical herd immunity from one strain might not protect one from the next one etc. Oddly, it appears that spreading the virus with "herd immunity," and then treating the first strain with various checking products and / or antivirals etc., is perhaps making new mutations of the virus move ahead faster -- because the virus is trying to change itself to overcome the treatments. In sum, the herd immunity solution could be causing more problems than fixes. I think this was not really planned, the herd plan is maybe -- incompetence.

OK so really, all of this herd immunity process was a total scam idea all along, there was never going to be herd immunity at any stage, and they maybe knew that all along. Especially, since they already knew all along a virus tends to mutate over time. It was simply a means of off putting the public into a false sense that everything is fine, sure herd immunity only takes 6-10 years, and only produces maybe 1-2 million dead, and may mutate the virus into a worse strain, but hey -- that is fine and dandy.  

No problem! Acceptable collateral damage. 

Gradually people woke up and said, "nah, not really acceptable." Spreading and treating the first wave can potentially accelerate the creation of a newly mutated second wave version, and some people actually thought that is really going to help out. Good plan! Not really! 

Ooops, then they switched gears from (A) no longer relying on simple denial that it is "a hoax," to (B) "herd immunity" of getting everyone infected -- and then fixing them with antivirals, hydroxychloroquine, or perhaps some sort of internal bleach process, and then (C) to jumping on to the vaccine band wagon wholesale. How did you guess, the same leaders who downplayed it, and said it is a hoax, are now jumping ahead of the line to get the vaccine.  

In a conversation with J Dasa, he said it is like the Zombie Movie where there is a vaccine, but only a few people can get it, so the leaders grab the first supplies, leaving the peons to fend for themselves. Have we not seen this movie before?

Where does this leave religious people who may or may not object to vaccines? Not in a good place. They may have to get a vaccine certificate to hold their job, or get any job. Airlines might require a vaccine certificate to board, and perhaps also other public transit systems. Churches might have to make sure persons entering are certified -- to keep their building insurance active, to stave off negligence lawsuits etc. 

Already a legal topic: persons allowing the non-certified on their premise could end up looking at lawsuits. Companies might make people sign a legal paper that if one spreads the virus to their customers or employees, one is legally liable for any damages to persons on their properties -- and so on. In sum, it is a mess. 

So overall I would say, we have to see how it all pans out on an individual basis. Some devotees will be broadly affected, some not so much. My gut feeling is that a number of religious people will be obliged to get the vaccine in order to function in the society, because that is where it looks like all this is headed. 

There may also be different country's national, state, regional, city laws evolving over time as well. If any devotees have some better ideas on all this, let me know. In the end, I believe we have to do what is practical in our particular situations, whether that means getting or not getting the vaccine, and depend on God for the results. 

Meanwhile China, S. Korea and similar places are holding back on mass public vaccines "to see how it works out over here." Hee hee, we are the guinea pigs making the initial tests -- evidently. Anyway it is all in Krishna's hands and we just have to go along with the situation as best we can, and not worry too much because we are for sure -- not the controllers.   

ys pd   

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