[from: Yasodanandan dasa]
"Vivekananda has no distinction of eating. 'Eat any... All is Brahman, all Narayana. You are Narayana. Goat is Narayana. So Narayana is going into the belly of Narayana. What is the wrong? One Narayana is going, being absorbed by another Narayana.' But he is not agreeable to be eaten by a tiger, another tiger Narayana.
(Srila Prabhupada, Room Conversation -- January 17, 1971, Allahabad)
Terrible things are happening in Bhaktivedanta Manor, where their "educational services" is openly promoting Hinduism, glorifying Vivekananda, Aurobindo, and female Mayavadi Hindu gurus, evidently -- not giving almost any reference to Srila Prabhupada on their website.
Hare Krishna, all glories to His Divine Grace A.C. Bhaktivedanta Swami Prabhupada.
It is noticed that the disastrous adulteration of Hare Krishna movement is taking place more and more, really everywhere. Why? Because the ISKCON leaders in charge of the official institution are compromising more and more -- just for money making and gathering followers. The following links from ISKCON educational services just throw merely one example as to how the movement gets corrupted due to extremely compromised ideas.
INSULTING SRILA PRABHUPADA BY COMPARING HIM WITH OTHER MAYAVADI LEADERS.
ISKCON educational services has started to compromise more and more by trying to give no importance to the transcendental teachings of Srila Prabhupada and even trying to compare him with Aurobindo and Vivekananda thus insulting him in the greatest possible way.
This link, https://iskconeducationalservices.org/HoH/tradition/movements-and-leaders/recent-spiritual-and-cultural-leaders/
Glorifies "Aurobindo" and "Ramana Maharshi" as prominent leaders along with Srila Prabhupada.
Hṛdayānanda: (translating) He wants to know if the greatest offense is to disobey the guru.
Prabhupāda: Yes, that is the first offense. Guror avajñā, śruti-śāstra-nindanam. Śruti-śāstra-nindanaṁ guror avajñā. If you accept guru and again disobey him, then what is your position? You are not a gentleman. You promise before guru, before Kṛṣṇa, before fire, that "I shall obey your order; I shall execute this," and again you do not do this. Then you are not even a gentleman, what to speak about devotee. This is common sense. [Lecture on BG 2.11 (with Spanish translator) -- Mexico, February 11, 1975]
EQUATING HARE KRISHNA MOVEMENT WITH OTHER ATHEISTIC MOVEMENTS LIKE ARYA SAMAJ, RAMAKRISHNA MISSION ETC
https://iskconeducationalservices.org/HoH/tradition/movements-and-leaders/modern-hindu-groups-and-leaders/
A paragraph from the above link states "There are many different Hindu groups in the UK, and it would be misleading to consider one as more representative than another. Nonetheless, while keeping this in mind, it is important to know and teach about the main ones, briefly described below."
The darkened line simply equates all other nonsense movements with the Hare Krishna movement thus promoting so called Hinduism (or sahajiyaism). Is this not a great offense against all Vaishnavas? How can they dare try to even equate this eternal Hare Krishna movement with so called atheistic movements?
We have a distinct position that we are neither cheated nor cheaters. We are the genuine representative of Krishna who is the friend of all living creatures. We must play our part independently only on faith in Krishna and His bonafide representatives. [Letter to Brahmananda, 21st December 1967]
The Māyāvādīs, they have invented. In Calcutta, in Bengal, they have invented Kali kirtana." Kali kīrtana. The Ramakrishna Mission, they have invented Kali. "Why not Hari Kirtan? As we say... Because they are rival, if we say, "Hare Krishna," they will say "Kali, Kali, Kali," like that. This is going on. Kirtana does not mean any other demigod. Kirtana means of Vishnu. Śravaṇaṁ kirtanam Vishnu, clearly stated. But these bogus, so-called swamis and yogis, they cheat people, bluff people by their own concoction. That is the difficulty. Even if you speak the right truth, they are unable to receive it because they have been deceived by so many rascals. So kirtana means... Krishna says in the Bhagavad..., satatam kīrtayanto mam [Bg. 9:14], Krishna. He doesn't say that "Any kirtana will do." No. He doesn't say. Satatam kīrtayanto mam yatantaś ca dridha vrata [Bg. 9:14]. So, everything is there. Stick to Hare Krishna maha mantra and see the Deity always and have impression of the Deity. In whichever position you are, you'll be meditating and your life will be successful. Thank you very much. Chant Hare Krishna (end) Srimad-Bhagavatam class, [Sb. 3.2819], Nairobi, Africa. October 29, 1975
DESCRIBING SO CALLED LEADERS LIKE VIVEKANANDA AND GLORIFYING THEM
Few links below direct to the website of ISKCON educational services, which are promoting Hinduism and glorifying Vivekananda to attract cheap popularity.
https://iskconeducationalservices.org/HoH/further-information-and-teaching-resources-secondary/articles/art-1207-the-life-of-swami-vivekananda-1863-1902/
Srila Prabhupada:” Regarding George's foreword, you write to say that certainly there will be no more changes. Do you mean that the changes which you have already suggested in your letter dated 11th April with quotation from Swami Vivekananda are to be added? We cannot add any quotation from Swami Vivekananda. In your letter of April 11th, you have asked me to insert "What right has a man to say he has a soul if he does not feel it, or that there is a God if he does not see Him?"
Prabhupāda: Yes, that is the first offense. Guror avajñā, śruti-śāstra-nindanam. Śruti-śāstra-nindanaṁ guror avajñā. If you accept guru and again disobey him, then what is your position? You are not a gentleman. You promise before guru, before Kṛṣṇa, before fire, that "I shall obey your order; I shall execute this," and again you do not do this. Then you are not even a gentleman, what to speak about devotee. This is common sense. [Lecture on BG 2.11 (with Spanish translator) -- Mexico, February 11, 1975]
EQUATING HARE KRISHNA MOVEMENT WITH OTHER ATHEISTIC MOVEMENTS LIKE ARYA SAMAJ, RAMAKRISHNA MISSION ETC
https://iskconeducationalservices.org/HoH/tradition/movements-and-leaders/modern-hindu-groups-and-leaders/
A paragraph from the above link states "There are many different Hindu groups in the UK, and it would be misleading to consider one as more representative than another. Nonetheless, while keeping this in mind, it is important to know and teach about the main ones, briefly described below."
The darkened line simply equates all other nonsense movements with the Hare Krishna movement thus promoting so called Hinduism (or sahajiyaism). Is this not a great offense against all Vaishnavas? How can they dare try to even equate this eternal Hare Krishna movement with so called atheistic movements?
We have a distinct position that we are neither cheated nor cheaters. We are the genuine representative of Krishna who is the friend of all living creatures. We must play our part independently only on faith in Krishna and His bonafide representatives. [Letter to Brahmananda, 21st December 1967]
The Māyāvādīs, they have invented. In Calcutta, in Bengal, they have invented Kali kirtana." Kali kīrtana. The Ramakrishna Mission, they have invented Kali. "Why not Hari Kirtan? As we say... Because they are rival, if we say, "Hare Krishna," they will say "Kali, Kali, Kali," like that. This is going on. Kirtana does not mean any other demigod. Kirtana means of Vishnu. Śravaṇaṁ kirtanam Vishnu, clearly stated. But these bogus, so-called swamis and yogis, they cheat people, bluff people by their own concoction. That is the difficulty. Even if you speak the right truth, they are unable to receive it because they have been deceived by so many rascals. So kirtana means... Krishna says in the Bhagavad..., satatam kīrtayanto mam [Bg. 9:14], Krishna. He doesn't say that "Any kirtana will do." No. He doesn't say. Satatam kīrtayanto mam yatantaś ca dridha vrata [Bg. 9:14]. So, everything is there. Stick to Hare Krishna maha mantra and see the Deity always and have impression of the Deity. In whichever position you are, you'll be meditating and your life will be successful. Thank you very much. Chant Hare Krishna (end) Srimad-Bhagavatam class, [Sb. 3.2819], Nairobi, Africa. October 29, 1975
DESCRIBING SO CALLED LEADERS LIKE VIVEKANANDA AND GLORIFYING THEM
Few links below direct to the website of ISKCON educational services, which are promoting Hinduism and glorifying Vivekananda to attract cheap popularity.
https://iskconeducationalservices.org/HoH/further-information-and-teaching-resources-secondary/articles/art-1207-the-life-of-swami-vivekananda-1863-1902/
Srila Prabhupada:” Regarding George's foreword, you write to say that certainly there will be no more changes. Do you mean that the changes which you have already suggested in your letter dated 11th April with quotation from Swami Vivekananda are to be added? We cannot add any quotation from Swami Vivekananda. In your letter of April 11th, you have asked me to insert "What right has a man to say he has a soul if he does not feel it, or that there is a God if he does not see Him?"
Do you mean I have to put in my KRSNA book all this nonsense quotation? This man (Vivekananda) [handwritten] has no understanding either of soul or of God and still he has posed himself as a Swami to mislead so many innocent persons. Understanding of the existence of soul is the beginning of teachings of Bhagavad Gita. If one has no understanding of the soul and God, he is no better than an animal because animals cannot have any idea of the soul or God.
So how can I add these nonsense quotations? George's foreword as it was originally sent can be published with little editorial changes, but in no case can the quotation from Swami Vivekananda be placed in my book. You have already admitted in your letter dated 11th April that it hurts you to see this change, quoting a rascal like Vivekananda, so please let me know clearly what you want me to do.” [Letter to Syamasundara written from Los Angeles,24th April 1970]
Srila Prabhupāda: And he is considered to be a great scholar in Bhagavad-gītā, and when cow protection was requested, he said that "How can I do it? It is their religious principle." And he is a great big scholar in Bhagavad-gītā. All nonsense going on. Whole world is full of nonsense, mūḍhas, beginning from Gandhi to any rascal, all of them, rascals. Perhaps it is the first time we are detecting, "Here are all rascals." It is first time. Then we are enemy of everyone. We call everyone rascal—Gandhi rascal, Vivekananda rascal, Aurobindo rascal. So actually, they are, but people are thinking, "These people say all big, big men rascals? Therefore, they are rascals." [Morning Walk, Mauritius. October 03, 1975]
PROMOTION OF HINDUISM
https://hinduismre.co.uk/our-services/inset/
There is no such thing as Hindu dharma. No. There is no such word in the whole Vedic literature. You won't find in the Bhagavad-gītā or Bhāgavata as Hindu dharma. There is one word as Bhāgavata-dharma, but there is no such word as Hindu dharma. This Hindu dharma or Hindu... This is creation by our neighbor, Indian neighbor, the Middle-East Muhammadans. They gave the name, Indian people, as "Hindu." "Hindu" means... There is one river, Sindhu. [Lecture SB 02.02.05 - New York, March 5, 1975]
So Kṛṣṇa says, "All the varieties of life, it doesn't matter. I am their father." Ahaṁ bīja-pradaḥ pitā [Bg. 14.4]. Pitā means father. So Kṛṣṇa claims all living entities as His sons. But we may say that "Kṛṣṇa is Indian," "Kṛṣṇa is Hindu," or "Kṛṣṇa something." But no. Kṛṣṇa is actually the Supreme Personality of Godhead. So, this Kṛṣṇa consciousness movement was started by Kṛṣṇa Himself. Man-manā bhava mad-bhakto mad-yājī māṁ namaskuru [Bg. 18.65]. Srila Prabhupada discussion with John Lennon and George Harrison, London, England. September 11, 1969
PROMOTION OF SELF MADE WOMEN MAYAVADI GURUS
Another link (https://iskconeducationalservices.org/HoH/tradition/movements-and-leaders/famous-women-within-hinduism/), tries to adulterate the glories of pure devotees of Krsna by referencing female mayavadi self-made gurus .
Below is a small excerpt from the site itself which says:
"Today, Hindu women are prominent in all walks of life. Worldwide popularity has favored a number of female gurus, such as Mother Meera, “Nirmila Devi, and Amritanandamayi Devi. Indira Betti is particularly well-known in Britain. Mother Gayathri, a popular guru in Britain, is shown here."
While Meerabai is a devotee of Krsna, rest of these so-called female gurus are mayavadi and not devotees of Krsna. For a cheap popularity as well as money making, the website has compromised to the greatest extent.
Lord Chaitanya wanted that the message should be distributed in every village and town of the globe. Let us do this service as far as possible in all seriousness. We cannot make any compromise with anyone for cheap popularity. [Letter to Brahmananda, 21st December 1967]
We may not have many followers. We don't care for that. We don't want these nonsense followers, many thousands. What they will do? But if we can turn one man into Kṛṣṇa consciousness perfectly, he can do tremendous work in the world. That is our principle. We don't want nonsense. So, this is the principle of understanding Bhagavad-gītā. [Introduction to Bhagavad-gita As It Is -- Los Angeles, November 23, 1968]
It is already there. It is already there. You kindly take it... You understand. The difficulty is you do not understand even a line of Bhagavad-gītā. Still, you say that you are student of Bhagavad-gītā. This is difficulty. [Evening Darsana -- May 9, 1977, Hrishikesh]
A lot more discrepancies can be found by going through the website, but here only few are listed out. The tendency to compromise must be given up immediately and pure original books of Srila Prabhupada must be replaced soon to reestablish the movement.
"The reviews have very much encouraged me. Especially those of Prof. Bhatt and Prof. Vajpeye. I have personally written a letter of thanks to Dr. Bhatt, that he has so much encouraged me. Dr. Vajpeye's review we are going to print and widely distribute, especially in Bombay and Madras, where there is so much propaganda from these bogus gurus and yogis. He has got practical experience of how they are cheating the innocent people in foreign countries and he has written; "The authorized edition of Bhagavad-gita will help to stop the terrible cheating of 'gurus' and 'yogis' who are false and unauthorized. "Letter to: Svarupa, Ranadhira, Mayapur-3 February, 1976 Los Angeles
Srila Prabhupāda: And he is considered to be a great scholar in Bhagavad-gītā, and when cow protection was requested, he said that "How can I do it? It is their religious principle." And he is a great big scholar in Bhagavad-gītā. All nonsense going on. Whole world is full of nonsense, mūḍhas, beginning from Gandhi to any rascal, all of them, rascals. Perhaps it is the first time we are detecting, "Here are all rascals." It is first time. Then we are enemy of everyone. We call everyone rascal—Gandhi rascal, Vivekananda rascal, Aurobindo rascal. So actually, they are, but people are thinking, "These people say all big, big men rascals? Therefore, they are rascals." [Morning Walk, Mauritius. October 03, 1975]
PROMOTION OF HINDUISM
https://hinduismre.co.uk/our-services/inset/
There is no such thing as Hindu dharma. No. There is no such word in the whole Vedic literature. You won't find in the Bhagavad-gītā or Bhāgavata as Hindu dharma. There is one word as Bhāgavata-dharma, but there is no such word as Hindu dharma. This Hindu dharma or Hindu... This is creation by our neighbor, Indian neighbor, the Middle-East Muhammadans. They gave the name, Indian people, as "Hindu." "Hindu" means... There is one river, Sindhu. [Lecture SB 02.02.05 - New York, March 5, 1975]
So Kṛṣṇa says, "All the varieties of life, it doesn't matter. I am their father." Ahaṁ bīja-pradaḥ pitā [Bg. 14.4]. Pitā means father. So Kṛṣṇa claims all living entities as His sons. But we may say that "Kṛṣṇa is Indian," "Kṛṣṇa is Hindu," or "Kṛṣṇa something." But no. Kṛṣṇa is actually the Supreme Personality of Godhead. So, this Kṛṣṇa consciousness movement was started by Kṛṣṇa Himself. Man-manā bhava mad-bhakto mad-yājī māṁ namaskuru [Bg. 18.65]. Srila Prabhupada discussion with John Lennon and George Harrison, London, England. September 11, 1969
PROMOTION OF SELF MADE WOMEN MAYAVADI GURUS
Another link (https://iskconeducationalservices.org/HoH/tradition/movements-and-leaders/famous-women-within-hinduism/), tries to adulterate the glories of pure devotees of Krsna by referencing female mayavadi self-made gurus .
Below is a small excerpt from the site itself which says:
"Today, Hindu women are prominent in all walks of life. Worldwide popularity has favored a number of female gurus, such as Mother Meera, “Nirmila Devi, and Amritanandamayi Devi. Indira Betti is particularly well-known in Britain. Mother Gayathri, a popular guru in Britain, is shown here."
While Meerabai is a devotee of Krsna, rest of these so-called female gurus are mayavadi and not devotees of Krsna. For a cheap popularity as well as money making, the website has compromised to the greatest extent.
Lord Chaitanya wanted that the message should be distributed in every village and town of the globe. Let us do this service as far as possible in all seriousness. We cannot make any compromise with anyone for cheap popularity. [Letter to Brahmananda, 21st December 1967]
We may not have many followers. We don't care for that. We don't want these nonsense followers, many thousands. What they will do? But if we can turn one man into Kṛṣṇa consciousness perfectly, he can do tremendous work in the world. That is our principle. We don't want nonsense. So, this is the principle of understanding Bhagavad-gītā. [Introduction to Bhagavad-gita As It Is -- Los Angeles, November 23, 1968]
It is already there. It is already there. You kindly take it... You understand. The difficulty is you do not understand even a line of Bhagavad-gītā. Still, you say that you are student of Bhagavad-gītā. This is difficulty. [Evening Darsana -- May 9, 1977, Hrishikesh]
A lot more discrepancies can be found by going through the website, but here only few are listed out. The tendency to compromise must be given up immediately and pure original books of Srila Prabhupada must be replaced soon to reestablish the movement.
"The reviews have very much encouraged me. Especially those of Prof. Bhatt and Prof. Vajpeye. I have personally written a letter of thanks to Dr. Bhatt, that he has so much encouraged me. Dr. Vajpeye's review we are going to print and widely distribute, especially in Bombay and Madras, where there is so much propaganda from these bogus gurus and yogis. He has got practical experience of how they are cheating the innocent people in foreign countries and he has written; "The authorized edition of Bhagavad-gita will help to stop the terrible cheating of 'gurus' and 'yogis' who are false and unauthorized. "Letter to: Svarupa, Ranadhira, Mayapur-3 February, 1976 Los Angeles
GKD: RE Bhaktivedanta Manor Advertising Itself as "Hindu Program."
ReplyDeleteIt is now only Hindus attending ISKCON, meanwhile 1.4 million Hindus live in the UK, mainly London. There are a few Western devotees but these are imported devotees from Eastern Europe who work for board and lodging like migratory workers. So practically preaching of pure KC to local people in the UK is dead. Will it change back to adopt Prabhupada's preaching mission? No, they have so many employees who depend on a salary that they need this type of business-like set-up. On the other hand, people do not see ISKCON anymore as an authorized spiritual movement. This reputation established by Prabhupada was destroyed. So what can be done, the only option left is to run the Manor as a Hindu process?
[PADA: Yes, same thing is going on everywhere, they are importing people from Russia, former Soviet states etc., because these folks are not really aware of the odious history of the bogus GBC gurus.
Jayapataka has sent some Bengalis to do the pooja in some USA temples. And just now some Russian people wrote to ask about Malati, and what is her history etc. So they are catching up, but only here and there. And overall the whole of ISKCON is going towards being a Hindu temple process, because then they can collect money by showing the deity and making it a sort of Hindu cultural hall.
So this was really all about seizing the assets so they could make a Hindu money making business. It is not about "continuing the parampara" or anything else, it is a business. As Sulochana said -- a Guru Business. At the same time everyone else (rank and file) more or less walked away and allowed their religion to be taken over this way, so there has been individual and collective failures. Now Sivarama swami is making himself out to be some sort of specialist in Vrndavana history, and he is writing some things, but he cannot explain, where did all the Western preaching that Srila Prabhupada wanted go away to? How come the temples had to be made into ghost towns -- for their plan to work? ys pd