Why Is PADA Discussing "Sewage Stool"? (i.e. ISKCON Children)

JD. Why didn't more devotees join to help you ... and your expose newsletter ... when you were reporting the ISKCON child molesting problem? It seems that hardly any of them offered to help you with this dispute. And this has had ... obviously ... a very bad result for the children of ISKCON. And for ISKCON as well.

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ISKCON is a septic tank? Brahma Tirtha das (Gainesville) 

https://krishna1008.blogspot.com/2016/10/brahma-tirtha-dasa-robert-cohen-iskcon.html

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PADA: Thanks JD. It is a little amazing that we have had to explain this over and over, but hopefully this will provide a more detailed explanation that will settle the issue more clearly.

Really, we have had the whole spectrum of devotee's reactions: the people who ignored us; the people who mildly chastised us; the people who opposed us somewhat; the people who opposed us wholesale; the people like Naranarayan das (Nathan Zakheim), Bhakta das (William Benedict) and others who said we have been writing about stinky sewage, human waste stools, and in sum "poop smelling" issues etc.; and of course who could forget -- the people who wanted to assassinate us. 

After the Windle Turley lawsuit started Naranarayan das and his GBC guru friendly cabal began to say the lawsuit is "attacking the golden body of Srila Prabhupada." Wait? A program that is banning, beating, suing, molesting and assassinating Vaishnavas is "the golden body of guru and Krishna"? Nope, this is called "cult speak," making a criminal cult into something authorized by God.

So this has been the prime method used by our opponents to suppress our complaints -- and cover up for their criminal pals. We are the poop smellers, we are the human waste sewage writers, and thus -- we are the problem -- not the perps and their regime. And it worked pretty good for their regime, they were able to cover up thousands of molesting cases, many beatings -- and some murders by advocating that the criminal regime is the "golden body" of God. And did we forget to mention, discrediting us -- and calling us liars etc. -- is also how they covered up for all these issues, including the poison issue?    

Of course this begs the question, how come a person who says: we cannot worship child molesters; we cannot allow mass molesting; we cannot allow changed books; we cannot allow crimes etc. be "writing about human sewage waste stools and poops"? And if we are writing about the status of the children of ISKCON, and that means we are writing about "smelly sewage poops," how will those children not become alienated from the religion -- if we have people opposing our containing their abuse and molesting, if not calling the children and their abuse issues "smelly poops"? 

I am writing  about your society's children, therefore I am writing about -- smelly poop? And Prahlad is chuckling, oh yea smelly poop. OK, but what kind of society says its children are compared to smelly poop? Where is the concern for their welfare? What about your society's children? Oh, you mean the smelly poop, that needs to be killed, chopped up and fed to dogs? OK tell me these people are not a diabolical child sacrifice cult (which some victims told me it is) or just Satanic child haters (which is what some of the Dallas people said about the court case). Clearly some diabolical infiltration has happened in ISKCON, and we need to beware of it.

In short, when I am writing about children and their abuse, and people are saying I am really writing about sewer poop waste, they are direct or de facto saying the children of ISKCON are a pile of poop. And I am writing about this smelly poop pile, which is made up of -- the kids of their society. All this proves I am writing about sewer material (their society's children). 

And if the children of our society are being branded as smelly poops, and writing about their problems is a giant sewage smell, then those children will naturally want to attack the religion. And that simply is what happened here. Many of them did attack the religion, after they were abused and then called ill names. That is the common sense result, because Srila Prabhupada said if we do not treat these children well -- they will rebel. 

And so, surprise, surprise, surprise! Many did rebel. No one who was paying attention would have been surprised? Some of these children live around here and they eat hamburgers and so on and so forth. They rebelled. Why would they not rebel? 

First of all -- most ISKCON leaders and rank and file "have not been helping me." Yet this has not been the actual main problem. If I am trying to put out a fire in a burning house, where people inside the house are burning up and dying, and these bystander people are simply walking by and ignoring me, that is one type of problem. 

These neglectful people would be guilty of the crime of acquiescing, allowing, facilitating and enabling the problem by their negligence, ignoring, or again -- just passively acquiescing. And various victims have called these folks "the conspiracy of silence." So I am yelling "fire, fire, fire" and these bystanders are just strolling by -- ignoring the situation, or maybe they might be admonishing me for "not chanting my rounds." Conspiracy of silence is pretty accurate.     

This is a big problem in itself -- if only one -- or a very few number of people -- are "dissenting" and trying to contain the world wide spread of a molester nests and webs cult, with thousands and thousands of followers. Big fire, one little guy with one little fire hose, maybe a few others, but not much chance of success. 

Oddly, there was once an actual big huge fire near a house where I was living upstairs. And the landlady began screaming, so I went downstairs -- to see our neighbors back yard was totally on fire with huge flames coming up the hill -- to our house. If the propane gas stove in our yard blew up, that would be the end of our house. So I grabbed the teeny little garden hose and started battling the blaze myself, and much to everyone's surprise, especially mine, I started making progress and started to push the fire back. It can work, but it rarely does.

Thus, we have the problem of one or two guys trying to put out a big blaze, while a mass of others simply walk by and do nothing -- acting like nothing is wrong. That is a problem, but it is more a problem for the victims because it means their problems continue to be ignored. 

The real bigger scale problem is -- when we have one or a few guys with little fire hoses try to put out a big fire, but aggressive and even potentially violent people are trying to halt the fire department's efforts; turning off the water, cutting the hoses, poking holes in the hoses, and trying to basically subvert and sabotage the fire department's efforts. 

Actually this happens in real life. The rioters are burning down the city. Then the fire department and the ambulances comes in to help, and they are assaulted and attacked by the angry mob -- so the fire continues and the injured folks cannot be removed from the scene. And maybe some of the firemen are injured -- or worse.

So this situation is way worse than "a conspiracy of silence." It is tossing rocks and bricks at the fire department people, sabotaging their efforts, and causing the city to burn down more and more. And this is also is what happened to us at PADA. We started writing little "position papers" starting in the early 1980s, and immediately we were being chastised for "making politics" "making controversies" "challenging Srila Prabhupada's appointed successors" -- and so forth. So our efforts were being sabotaged and suppressed -- right out of the gate.

And then our critics went from saying we are "making offenses to pure devotees" to simply saying "PADA is writing about sewage waste and stools." OK I am writing about things like -- the dire status of Srila Prabhupada's children -- and these people are claiming my writing about these children is writing about sewage waste "stools." In sum, my advocating for the children is advocating for sewage waste stools. 

Jeepers, are we surprised that a society that says -- writing about the status of its children -- is writing about sewage waste products -- and stools -- has children who will later rebel and reject that society. Yep, we should expect they will rebel and reject that society. As they should! What kind of society compares its children to sewage waste stools, and says anyone writing about the child abuse is writing about a pile of poop? 

Then we also wonder why the children were mistreated, as if an explanation is required? 

OK this process of suppressing the advocates for the children, also covers up for the molesting regime, and thus continues the abuse. It is self evident why they were mistreated, they were considered to be unwanted sewage by a sector of "the devotees." Even some ex-child victims told me EXACTLY that, we are the "varnasankara" (unwanted children). And halting or at least suppressing our efforts to contain the abuse, simply adds gasoline to the fire that the children victims are experiencing. 

It keeps the regime going by suppressing critics of the regime. Anyway, gradually we began to write more and more -- and more -- about the problems of the citizens, especially the brahmana type devotees, and the victimization of women and children. And then we gradually started to use the term "the homosexual pedophile guru parampara," which has been sort of subsequently hi-jacked and used by various other folks, even some of the people who don't really like us. 

Yep, how did you guess, complaining about the homosexual pedophile's guru parampara is simply another example of "writing about sewage stools." OK so it is fine to have homosexual pedophiles in God's guru parampara, because objecting is bogus. In fact, objecting to the worship of pedophiles as messiahs is "sewage waste."     

Needless to say, our style of writing has not been a popular issue with many devotees and that is why a lot of them were not just ignoring us, but downright trying to stop us -- or even -- desiring to have us assassinated.           

Later on there was a growing suicide epidemic and we decided to help the victims. And if we do not know "why" it is important to stop devotee children from worshiping deviants, being molested, and committing suicide, there is not much more to argue herein. Bhagavan das says that the lawsuit was like an explosion, and it was, because it forced people to wake up and realize there is a big problem under their feet here. 

The good news is, the lawsuit did curtail the suicides, and later on various victims received at least some payments. And thus a number of victims told PADA without those payments -- they would have started off their young lives out on the street with ZERO dollars and ZERO prospects for their future. Some of them told me they were already homeless and living in their cars, and the settlement money helped them get some better situations, or pay for a job training class etc. It is amazing that a number of people wanted these children to continue to commit suicide and have a destitute situation, with a number living in cars with no prospect.

Anyway after they lawsuit was filed and (a) hundreds of children were removed from GBC schools, (b) the suicide epidemic was reduced dramatically, (c) some form of payment was being issued to a number of totally destitute victims, then we had another group form to further their idea that we are "writing about stools" (the ISKCON children).   

And that group was basically being lead by Nara Narayan das (Nathan Zakheim), and was consisting of his followers like Sanat (Steve Voith) / Mukunda UK (Mark Whiteley) / and later on they recruited Prahlad das UK (Paul coats) / HKC Jaipur / Pancali (Tina Marie Kirner) -- her son Kaunteya'locana-Nrisimha Das Tumataroa-Evans / Krishna Kirtan / Michael Keith Powell / Janardan / Bhakta Peter / and an assortment of others. Yep, their society's children are stools, why are we defending piles of stools after all? "Let them all die in a bloodbath in Dallas," is what this group's position paper stated. A child molesting program is "the golden body of God," who knew! 

They all essentially agreed with their ring leader Naranarayan das -- that the GBC's child abuse project is "the golden body of Srila Prabhupada" and the child abuse should not by contained by us, and moreover the suicides should continue. Wow, worship of a child molester cult is "the golden body of Srila Prabhupada." No wonder the children got a bad idea of the religion. These are the people who gave the children a bad idea of the religion, child molesting guru programs are the golden body of the Lord. Umm, ok then, you are misleading these children. A hijacked and criminal ISKCON is -- no longer ISKCON -- in fact.  

And this group wrote a letter online and they sent copies of their letter to the "New York Times," the Dallas courts and others, saying they wanted the ISKCON children to "die in a blood bath in Dallas." And these children needed to be "killed chopped up and fed to dogs." OK so now these children are no longer simply unwanted sewage stools, they are sewage material that needs to be actually chopped up and discarded. Of course Sulochana had them figured out a long time ago, he said the folks had wanted to put the ISKCON children into a wood chipper.     

Then these guys recruited Bhakta das (William Benedict) to make a video for them. How did you guess, he also says PADA a filthy sewage program full of "stinky stools." Writing about YOUR SOCIETY'S children is writing about stinky poop stools for these folks? Yep, anyone who defends the children of ISKCON is defending a pile of poop. And anyone who defends children from mass molesting is "attacking the golden body of ISKCON." Then the GBC people began to quote these people as proof that PADA is bogus.  

Later on these genius people made a petition to have PADA removed from the internet, so their poop society can be protected from dissent? Then the big members of this group make a video with Bhakta das, who is a cheer leader of "Saint Radhanath." Umm, we do not need to listen to PADA, we need to listen to the program that buries pedophiles in the dham? Which is, did we forget to mention, the real poop society? 

In any case, I think we did a good job exposing this child aggression cult. After they sent their letter to the court people saying they wanted the children to die in a bloodbath, the court folks said -- yep, this is a diabolical child hating program. Their own words are proof. Then a whole lot of parents sent their kids off to Tamal's molester messiahs program's biggest cheer leader -- Narayan Maharaja. And we are hearing of tales of sexual exploiting going on there.  

So, they wanted to have the children of ISKCON become the same status as poop, and that means they are responsible for the end result of alienating and destroying these children, and causing them grief and suicides etc. The blood of these children is on their hands, and they almost had my blood on their hands because they painted a bulls eye on me for protesting their program. 

The good news is, more people are inquiring from me about this history, so history will record what happened, and already has. People need to know this history so -- it is not repeated. ys pd]