Rasa Manjari speaks about Ramesvara:
His Divine Grace Srila A.C. Bhaktivedanta Swami Srila Prabhupada’s Divine Unchanged Books–Reviewing the bogus changes facilitated by Robert Grant aka Rameswara dasa.
I lived in ”Rameswara’s zone’ from pre-1977 (the year His Divine Grace Srila A.C. Bhaktivedanta Swami Srila Prabhupada physically departed our external vision) until 1991. He says, in his April 2013 emails, which are basically making excuses for all those implicated: “l assure you that NO ONE on that Committee ever even asked to see all the changes,” and, “I lazily assumed that the work done on manuscripts, as close to the original as possible, was the only thing that mattered.”
Does he REALLY expect the current and future devotees to believe that ‘uninterested’ and ‘lazy’ ISKCON leaders acted for years without any attempted input from their trained-up, well-wishing and un-motivated god brothers?! Whenever he was questioned by his god brothers (and believe me, god brothers questioned him frequently on this book issue as well as the guru issue, the collection issue, his girlfriend issue and so many others–until they were forced out of the movement) he most often replied with the famous escape clause, “I didn’t know.”
He lied in the past and he’s lying still. He is one of the biggest offenders at Srila Prabhupada’s lotus feet because he disobeyed and betrayed his eternal Spiritual Master, who trusted him to follow his instructions and preserve what he had struggled to carefully produce in order to save the suffering souls of this world.
When questioned, Rameswara acknowledged that Srila Prabhupada had ordered, “Don’t change one word.” Yet, when his god brothers asked: “Why are you doing it then?” he answered : “Don’t you think, after getting so many instructions from Srila Prabhupada, I KNOW how much to change?” Just see the crooked mentality. At the same time, as a ‘guru, as good as God’, he boasted he knew everything, his god brothers knew nothing, and he regularly cursed most devotees, since he found himself to be so far superior to them.
I find it shocking there is an attempt by persons supposedly against book changes to promote him as a useful authority on this subject, as in: “Rameswara Clears up the Book Changes Issue”. It is not necessary nor beneficial. You know, the controlled opposition (those who join a cause, pretending to support it, while secretly working against it from within) are expert at capturing endorsement and allegiance of the innocent group members by pretending to oppose what those groups oppose; but then, at some point they begin to advance their real agenda, which is the plan to get exactly what they really want, (in this case, adulterations to Srila Prabhupada’s Divine teachings and instructions as recorded in his Perfect, Unedited Books) and no one notices it because the infiltrators have intentionally gained our trust and swung us over to their way of thinking ever so slowly and secretly.
Most of the genuine group members are not skilled at spotting nor exposing and countering it. Some of the group members are also secretly controlled opposition and they make big propaganda to promote these cheaters from within, and cover-up or minimize their unholy activities when exposed.
Srila Prabhupada gives us a clear indication of this covert attack on the movement and how to handle it when he wrote: “It is a fact however, that the great sinister movement is within our Society.” Furthermore: “It affected practically the whole Society in a very dangerous form.” And: “All of you may try to save the society from this dangerous position.”
Be very wary of adopting unqualified people as spokespersons for your cause. Srila Prabhupada’s numerous direct instructions, as recorded in his Un-tampered-with writings and recordings carry sufficient merit for genuine devotees to use to counter the sinister movement’s demonic agenda to pollute His Divine Grace Srila A.C. Bhaktivedanta Swami Srila Prabhupada’s Divine Books and impede Sri Caitanya Mahaprabhu’s mission to spread Love of Godhead all over the universe.
Lowly servant in the service of His Divine Grace A.C. Bhaktivedanta Swami Srila Prabhupada,
Rasamanjari Devi dasi
January 2015
P.S. Some may say: how do you know that book changes are part of the sinister movement’s attack on our Society? What would you consider more sinister than corrupting and setting a precedent for corruption of Srila Prabhupada’s books, books which he himself called “The Law Books for the next ten-thousand years"? Consider how the authority and effect of the scriptures of other religions have been lost due to multiple corrupted editions. Consider how disobedience to the givers of Laws and corruption of the Messages of God have become commonplace in the very NAME of religion.
Some may question, how do you know Rameswara is an infiltrator? From the beginning he had been closely tied to production of Srila Prabhupada’s books, then to contaminating them. Fake gurus come and go but destroying the very foundation on which the movement functions has been Jayadwaita’s and his special task. It looks like he fell off his programming and went away for sometime, but they managed to put him back together and sent him back to be heard from in the devotional community again.
There are others who say we should read his writing to find out what Srila Prabhupada wants, as if Srila Prabhupada’s unchanged books and instructions were somehow lacking or that the Lord’s impetus from within the heart in the form of proper conscience is unavailable. There is a saying that milk is nutritious food, but if it is touched by the lips of a serpent, it becomes poison. Spiritual force is obtained from hearing from a pure source. If a source is saying one thing, but has done the exact opposite, the force, or benefit is gone. All that will be gotten is the poisonous effect.
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“Regarding the poisonous effect in our Society, it is a fact and I know where from this poison tree has sprung up and how it affected practically the whole Society in a very dangerous form…I have tried to give you all Krsna Consciousness, now it is your duty to develop it. If you remain strong on the spiritual platform then your progress will not be checked or blocked…It is a fact however that the great sinister movement is within our Society…SO ALL OF YOU MAY TRY TO SAVE THE SOCIETY FROM THIS DANGEROUS POSITION .”
[Srila Prabhupada Letter to: Hamsaduta 2 September, 1970].
Srila Prabhupada: “Politics, diplomacy, fraud, cheating. These things are THE GENERAL QUALIFICATION of the western people. Do you ADMIT or NOT?Devotees: “Yes.”Srila Prabhupada: “There MUST NOW BE CHECKING THAT ALL THESE RASCALS MAY NOT JOIN AND SPOIL THE MOVEMENT. You should NOT ADMIT…Now the Revtainandan [and Ravindra nonsense] and this man…is making a clique. I can understand. What they are planning, that also I know. But I don’t wish to disclose it. So, IF THESE THINGS COME, THEN HOW THIS MOVEMENT WILL GO ON? POLITICS, DIPLOMACY, FRAUD, CHEATING, these are the general qualification of the western countries…If they are, these things come within our movement, then it will not be successful. tat-paratvena nirmalam. One has to become purified…There must be now checking that all these rascals may not join and spoil the movement. YOU SHOULD NOT ADMIT!” [SPC Vol. 10].
“So this Kṛṣṇa consciousness movement is a challenge to all the rascals and fools, that’s all. So those who have taken this movement very seriously, they should be very sober and understand at least you must expose all these rascals. That will be very much appreciated by Kṛṣṇa.”
Lectures : Srimad-Bhagavatam 1.15.31 — Los Angeles, December 9, 1973
“Regarding the position of a person who does not speak even when he knows the truth: jani saksi nahi deya tara papa haya. A person who knows things as they are and still does not bear witness becomes involved in sinful activities.’”
(Srila Prabhupada Morning Walk, May 17, 1975, Perth, Australia).
Malam means: “contamination.” We should learn to despise all the causes of devastation, beginning from irreligion and cheating, and then we shall be able to make advancement in a life of piety. SB 4.8.5
His Divine Grace Srila A.C. Bhaktivedanta Swami Srila Prabhupada’s Divine Unchanged Books–Reviewing the bogus changes facilitated by Robert Grant aka Rameswara dasa.
I lived in ”Rameswara’s zone’ from pre-1977 (the year His Divine Grace Srila A.C. Bhaktivedanta Swami Srila Prabhupada physically departed our external vision) until 1991. He says, in his April 2013 emails, which are basically making excuses for all those implicated: “l assure you that NO ONE on that Committee ever even asked to see all the changes,” and, “I lazily assumed that the work done on manuscripts, as close to the original as possible, was the only thing that mattered.”
Does he REALLY expect the current and future devotees to believe that ‘uninterested’ and ‘lazy’ ISKCON leaders acted for years without any attempted input from their trained-up, well-wishing and un-motivated god brothers?! Whenever he was questioned by his god brothers (and believe me, god brothers questioned him frequently on this book issue as well as the guru issue, the collection issue, his girlfriend issue and so many others–until they were forced out of the movement) he most often replied with the famous escape clause, “I didn’t know.”
He lied in the past and he’s lying still. He is one of the biggest offenders at Srila Prabhupada’s lotus feet because he disobeyed and betrayed his eternal Spiritual Master, who trusted him to follow his instructions and preserve what he had struggled to carefully produce in order to save the suffering souls of this world.
When questioned, Rameswara acknowledged that Srila Prabhupada had ordered, “Don’t change one word.” Yet, when his god brothers asked: “Why are you doing it then?” he answered : “Don’t you think, after getting so many instructions from Srila Prabhupada, I KNOW how much to change?” Just see the crooked mentality. At the same time, as a ‘guru, as good as God’, he boasted he knew everything, his god brothers knew nothing, and he regularly cursed most devotees, since he found himself to be so far superior to them.
I find it shocking there is an attempt by persons supposedly against book changes to promote him as a useful authority on this subject, as in: “Rameswara Clears up the Book Changes Issue”. It is not necessary nor beneficial. You know, the controlled opposition (those who join a cause, pretending to support it, while secretly working against it from within) are expert at capturing endorsement and allegiance of the innocent group members by pretending to oppose what those groups oppose; but then, at some point they begin to advance their real agenda, which is the plan to get exactly what they really want, (in this case, adulterations to Srila Prabhupada’s Divine teachings and instructions as recorded in his Perfect, Unedited Books) and no one notices it because the infiltrators have intentionally gained our trust and swung us over to their way of thinking ever so slowly and secretly.
Most of the genuine group members are not skilled at spotting nor exposing and countering it. Some of the group members are also secretly controlled opposition and they make big propaganda to promote these cheaters from within, and cover-up or minimize their unholy activities when exposed.
Srila Prabhupada gives us a clear indication of this covert attack on the movement and how to handle it when he wrote: “It is a fact however, that the great sinister movement is within our Society.” Furthermore: “It affected practically the whole Society in a very dangerous form.” And: “All of you may try to save the society from this dangerous position.”
Be very wary of adopting unqualified people as spokespersons for your cause. Srila Prabhupada’s numerous direct instructions, as recorded in his Un-tampered-with writings and recordings carry sufficient merit for genuine devotees to use to counter the sinister movement’s demonic agenda to pollute His Divine Grace Srila A.C. Bhaktivedanta Swami Srila Prabhupada’s Divine Books and impede Sri Caitanya Mahaprabhu’s mission to spread Love of Godhead all over the universe.
Lowly servant in the service of His Divine Grace A.C. Bhaktivedanta Swami Srila Prabhupada,
Rasamanjari Devi dasi
January 2015
P.S. Some may say: how do you know that book changes are part of the sinister movement’s attack on our Society? What would you consider more sinister than corrupting and setting a precedent for corruption of Srila Prabhupada’s books, books which he himself called “The Law Books for the next ten-thousand years"? Consider how the authority and effect of the scriptures of other religions have been lost due to multiple corrupted editions. Consider how disobedience to the givers of Laws and corruption of the Messages of God have become commonplace in the very NAME of religion.
Some may question, how do you know Rameswara is an infiltrator? From the beginning he had been closely tied to production of Srila Prabhupada’s books, then to contaminating them. Fake gurus come and go but destroying the very foundation on which the movement functions has been Jayadwaita’s and his special task. It looks like he fell off his programming and went away for sometime, but they managed to put him back together and sent him back to be heard from in the devotional community again.
There are others who say we should read his writing to find out what Srila Prabhupada wants, as if Srila Prabhupada’s unchanged books and instructions were somehow lacking or that the Lord’s impetus from within the heart in the form of proper conscience is unavailable. There is a saying that milk is nutritious food, but if it is touched by the lips of a serpent, it becomes poison. Spiritual force is obtained from hearing from a pure source. If a source is saying one thing, but has done the exact opposite, the force, or benefit is gone. All that will be gotten is the poisonous effect.
*****************************
“Regarding the poisonous effect in our Society, it is a fact and I know where from this poison tree has sprung up and how it affected practically the whole Society in a very dangerous form…I have tried to give you all Krsna Consciousness, now it is your duty to develop it. If you remain strong on the spiritual platform then your progress will not be checked or blocked…It is a fact however that the great sinister movement is within our Society…SO ALL OF YOU MAY TRY TO SAVE THE SOCIETY FROM THIS DANGEROUS POSITION .”
[Srila Prabhupada Letter to: Hamsaduta 2 September, 1970].
Srila Prabhupada: “Politics, diplomacy, fraud, cheating. These things are THE GENERAL QUALIFICATION of the western people. Do you ADMIT or NOT?Devotees: “Yes.”Srila Prabhupada: “There MUST NOW BE CHECKING THAT ALL THESE RASCALS MAY NOT JOIN AND SPOIL THE MOVEMENT. You should NOT ADMIT…Now the Revtainandan [and Ravindra nonsense] and this man…is making a clique. I can understand. What they are planning, that also I know. But I don’t wish to disclose it. So, IF THESE THINGS COME, THEN HOW THIS MOVEMENT WILL GO ON? POLITICS, DIPLOMACY, FRAUD, CHEATING, these are the general qualification of the western countries…If they are, these things come within our movement, then it will not be successful. tat-paratvena nirmalam. One has to become purified…There must be now checking that all these rascals may not join and spoil the movement. YOU SHOULD NOT ADMIT!” [SPC Vol. 10].
“So this Kṛṣṇa consciousness movement is a challenge to all the rascals and fools, that’s all. So those who have taken this movement very seriously, they should be very sober and understand at least you must expose all these rascals. That will be very much appreciated by Kṛṣṇa.”
Lectures : Srimad-Bhagavatam 1.15.31 — Los Angeles, December 9, 1973
“Regarding the position of a person who does not speak even when he knows the truth: jani saksi nahi deya tara papa haya. A person who knows things as they are and still does not bear witness becomes involved in sinful activities.’”
(Srila Prabhupada Morning Walk, May 17, 1975, Perth, Australia).
Malam means: “contamination.” We should learn to despise all the causes of devastation, beginning from irreligion and cheating, and then we shall be able to make advancement in a life of piety. SB 4.8.5
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