..stop trying to reform, start a parallel movement! Reform doesnt work, let the hijackers of Prabhupada's movement get away. Since we start a parallel movement we more or less agree that false gurus are ok.
" Srila Bhaktisiddhanta Maharj writes in the book Brahmana and Vaisnava ....
"If an initiated person has not undergone the sacred thread ceremony, then according to the statement of Brhaspati, a compiler of Dharma sastra, he has simply transgressed religious principles. The scriptures state that after receiving initiation one becomes twice born. If this was not so, then it is to be concluded that he has certainly not been properly initiated. If one is properly initiated then the results must come. A cause is known by its effects. "
"Bhaktisiddhanta Maharaj also states that if one has been considered to be initiated by a bona fide guru then the symptoms in the disciple should manifest, namely brahminical behavior. Effect should follow proper cause. Yet if we see that so many of the new "disciples' of this modern age, dont even chant Hare Krsna mantra, or follow the 4 regulative principles, then this simply means that person from whom they took "initiation" was not a bona fide guru in the first place . "
So, does the writer of above article understand these quotes that he has quoted. If we were to apply these quotes to people like Kirtanananda, Bhavananda, Hamsadutta together with the rest of the zonal acharya group and their descendants and many other disciples of Srila Prabhupada with unbrahminical behavior, does it also mean to say that the founder acharya and spiritual master of Iskcon did not properly initiate his disciples or that he is a bogus guru.
Similarly, Bhaktisiddhanta Maharaj's disciples also displayed unbrahminical behavior. Just soon as Bhaktisiddhanta Maharaj departed from this planet his disciples fought among themselves for property and whatnot. So, does this mean that Bhaktisiddhanta Maharaj himself did not initiate his disciples properly or that he must have been a bogus guru. Maybe the writer could further explain his statement.
maybe instead of looking for faults in others, it is better to do a spiritual self-awareness and to find a taste of the soul rather than criticizing others.
..stop trying to reform, start a parallel movement!
ReplyDeleteReform doesnt work, let the hijackers of Prabhupada's movement get away. Since we start a parallel movement we more or less agree that false gurus are ok.
" Srila Bhaktisiddhanta Maharj writes in the book Brahmana and Vaisnava ....
ReplyDelete"If an initiated person has not undergone the sacred thread ceremony, then according to the statement of Brhaspati, a compiler of Dharma sastra, he has simply transgressed religious principles. The scriptures state that after receiving initiation one becomes twice born. If this was not so, then it is to be concluded that he has certainly not been properly initiated. If one is properly initiated then the results must come. A cause is known by its effects. "
"Bhaktisiddhanta Maharaj also states that if one has been considered to be initiated by a bona fide guru then the symptoms in the disciple should manifest, namely brahminical behavior. Effect should follow proper cause. Yet if we see that so many of the new "disciples' of this modern age, dont even chant Hare Krsna mantra, or follow the 4 regulative principles, then this simply means that person from whom they took "initiation" was not a bona fide guru in the first place . "
So, does the writer of above article understand these quotes that he has quoted. If we were to apply these quotes to people like Kirtanananda, Bhavananda, Hamsadutta together with the rest of the zonal acharya group and their descendants and many other disciples of Srila Prabhupada with unbrahminical behavior, does it also mean to say that the founder acharya and spiritual master of Iskcon did not properly initiate his disciples or that he is a bogus guru.
Similarly, Bhaktisiddhanta Maharaj's disciples also displayed unbrahminical behavior. Just soon as Bhaktisiddhanta Maharaj departed from this planet his disciples fought among themselves for property and whatnot. So, does this mean that Bhaktisiddhanta Maharaj himself did not initiate his disciples properly or that he must have been a bogus guru. Maybe the writer could further explain his statement.
maybe instead of looking for faults in others, it is better to do a spiritual self-awareness and to find a taste of the soul rather than criticizing others.
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