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Narayani Devi Dasi Initiates Her First Diksa Disciple:
On August 19, Janmastami Day, Narayani devi dasi became the first Vaishnavi (female devotee) in ISKCON to serve as a diksa guru, or initiating spiritual master. On that day she formally accepted her first disciple, now named Nilambari dasi.
Nilambari dasi offered her vows and received her name on Thursday, August 18th, during a small ceremony at New Raman Reti, the ISKCON temple in Alachua, Florida, one of ISKCON’s largest communities in North America. The ceremony was completed the next day, on Janmastami, the appearance of Lord Krishna, when Nilambari sat for the ceremonial fire yajna, as part of the Janmastami celebration.
The yajna was performed by Alachua temple brahmanas (priests) Caturatma das and Raghunatha das. Narayani devi dasi is a disciple of ISKCON Founder-Acarya His Divine Grace A.C. Bhaktivedanta Swami Srila Prabhupada. She joined ISKCON in Boston in 1970. Narayani has performed a variety of services for Srila Prabhupada including serving as a pujari in the Calcutta ISKCON temple, traveling to distribute Srila Prabhupada’s books in Western India for the Bombay (now Mumbai) temple, and teaching Bhakti Sastri, Bhakti Vaibhava, and Bhaktivedanta courses in the Vaishnava Institute for Higher Education (VIHE) in Vrndavana, India.
Narayani helped write the Vaishnava Training and Education (VTE) curriculum for several courses and has written a series of twelve books including Srimad Bhagavata At a Glance and Bhagavad-gita at a Glance. Narayani is a member of ISKCON’s Sastric Advisory Council (SAC). She spends much of her time each year in Vrindavan publishing, writing, and studying. Narayani also travels annually on a preaching and teaching tour visiting Australia, New Zealand, Denmark, Germany, and the US.
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PADA: Wow! How humble is that? There are only 32 acharyas listed in the Bhagavad Gita, and now this Narayani lady is claiming to be the next in line, number 33. The arrogance here is staggering. Jesus is absorbing sins, and so am a I! I am a diksha guru! I am another Jesus! Any questions? Ummm yep, apart from yourself, who decided you are another Jesus?
PADA: Wow! How humble is that? There are only 32 acharyas listed in the Bhagavad Gita, and now this Narayani lady is claiming to be the next in line, number 33. The arrogance here is staggering. Jesus is absorbing sins, and so am a I! I am a diksha guru! I am another Jesus! Any questions? Ummm yep, apart from yourself, who decided you are another Jesus?
Oh I forgot! The same people in Alachua who also endorse pedophile acharyas like Lokanath also endorse her! The same people who endorse illicit sex with men, women and children -- and drunks -- and pedophiles and etc. -- as their next alleged "Jesus - like messiahs" -- also rubber stamped Narayani as their co-guru of the pedophile messiah's club! I am a fully certified member of the homosexual and pedophile messiah's club, that bans, beats, molests, sues and kills Vaishnavas, see how great I am!
Wow! You are already famous, on Yama loka! "I am fully endorsed by the illicit sex with men, women and children messiah's club, and that is why I am another Jesus. Previously there was only 32 acharyas, now there are 33"! Wow, impressive -- amounts of -- arrogance! No, the devotees of the acharya should take the humble post of acting as representatives of the acharya (ritviks) and not as his full blown diksha guru successors.
Wait? What happened to all sorts of her other "guru parampara" members in her guru line -- the other alleged number 33 acharyas of ISKCON. Right. Most of them fell down, got sick and many of them died. But that will not happen to this lady, she is smarter and better than all the rest of the other ersatz messiahs!
And then her lineage's attack dog Mayesvara writes to inform me -- I am not following the Vaishnava tradition. (?) Of what? You mean their tradition of having little children worshiping their illicit sex with men, women and children; and drunks; and pedophiles; and porno swamis; illicit sex with half dozen disciples etc. guru chain?
And that is the "tradition" Narayani is part of? Did I forget to mention, their illicit sex pooja program caused a secondary off shoot problem -- their giant child molesting problem -- exploding all around in ISKCON. Some of the ex-kids told me "there has been child molesting going on in every nook and corner of ISKCON." And she is a proud member of that process? They promote worship of illicit sex, they force little children to worship their pedophile pals, then they wonder why the kids are getting molested, and / or rejecting the religion en masse?
Oh no! It gets worse! She is also a member of the "Shastra Advisory Committee" (SAC) which "advises" their acharyas. OK so the acharyas are a bunch of ignorant fools and dunces -- and therefore the acharyas need Shastra Advice from Narayani's team. And what have they discovered is the whole purpose of ISKCON, that they need to advise their acharyas to follow?
I almost forgot, the purpose of life is to have the children of ISKCON worship their illicit sex with men, women and children messiah's program. And then to dither dather when asked if ISKCON should keep one of its pedophile messiahs, dithering since 1978 mind you.
Yep, we SAC team have been advising the acharyas, because acharyas are a pile of ignorant dunces. The SAC ilks has been meeting since 1978 to try to figure out if pedophiles are acharyas, or not, and they still have not made a final determination yet. What is the hold up!
And acharyas are so ignorant -- they forgot the entire purpose of life -- which is -- to have our ISKCON kids worship Narayani's illicit sex with men, women and children guru parampara, and it enabling cheer leaders -- OK like Narayani. What kind of persons think they are the "shastra advisors" to the acharyas, because acharyas are fools and dunces, and they need our advice? The acharya is a dunce, and he needs my shastra advice? And my advice is, to promote pedophiles as acharyas!
What kind of persons force little five years old children to worship pedophiles as their alleged Jesus - like messiahs, which makes a giant pedophile webs and nests process filtering into every nook and cranny of ISKCON? Oh, I forgot, it is the Narayani team.
And that is why one ex-child victim of her system keeps asking me "why aren't all these people in jail"? And the answer is, pedophile guru regimes are not always punished by the official authorities of Kali Yuga, but they will be punished by the Yamadutta authorities eventually.
You too can become a karma vacuum cleaner!
Take karma from others!
You will have loads of fun!
Where do I sign up!
And! Srila Prabhupada told us many, many times, if we allow people to touch our feet we will be acting like diksha gurus, taking sins. That will make us get sick, fall down or both. Of course many of them died. He said, only a pure devotee has the brahmana tejyas to burn off sins, and if you neophytes take sins "you will have to suffer" and they are suffering. So this question was answered many times, none of you neophytes should attempt to take other's sins (as diksha gurus) but they neglect that instruction.
That is why Srila Prabhupada told the story of the snake and the ants. The guru told the disciples he could take their sins, but he could not. So the disciples went to Yamaraja and they were very angry, and wanted to take revenge. So Yamaraja made them ants, and made their guru a snake, and the snake went over the ant hill, and he was eaten alive by the ants. In other words, it does not matter if this karma is not resolved now, it will be eventually. .... Now they want women to take karma and suffer, either this life or the next. How does that help? ys pd
Oh oh, this has been increasing in
various ISKCON "Yoga Programs."
Why not just admit?
We hijacked the buildings and now --
we are here to make a business?
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Its officially the clown car sampradaya
Everyone knows it
Except the clowns
ISKCON's DIKSHA GURU SHORTAGE (Wonder why)?
702.02: Diksa-gurus [Title] – Increasing the Number of Diksa-gurus – 2021 [Meeting] – Online AGM (passed on July 29, 2021) [Category] – Statement Whereas connection via diksa to the parampara is essential for anyone aspiring to advance in Krishna consciousness.
702.02: Diksa-gurus [Title] – Increasing the Number of Diksa-gurus – 2021 [Meeting] – Online AGM (passed on July 29, 2021) [Category] – Statement Whereas connection via diksa to the parampara is essential for anyone aspiring to advance in Krishna consciousness.
Whereas ISKCON needs a sufficient number of initiated devotees to perform many essential services, which can only be performed by properly initiated devotees.
Whereas ISKCON still has a similar number of diksa-gurus as it had at the end of the 1980s (+/- 80), while the number of aspiring devotees in ISKCON has increased at least fiftyfold or more since then; thus an acute lack of diksa-gurus has become an ever growing problem to facilitate the increased number of persons now engaged in devotional service.
Whereas the present generation of diksa-gurus will be drastically reduced within the next decade or so. Thus a new generation of diksa-gurus urgently needs to be established in ISKCON.
Whereas ISKCON´s demography has changed from ashrama living to largely being a movement of congregational devotees centered around communities;
there is an increasing need of a more natural and organic diksa-guru culture in line with Srila Prabhupada’s statement in CC. Adi 1.35 purport: “Generally a spiritual master who constantly instructs a disciple in spiritual science becomes his initiating spiritual master.”
Whereas we can observe – for different reasons - a clear change in the social culture of the world and therefore cannot take it for granted that smooth travel all over the world will be possible in the future; thus an increasing number of more locally accessible diksa-gurus, each having a moderate number of disciples will be more sustainable and will strengthen our preaching movement as a whole, as well as local preaching projects.
Whereas a considerable number of the local “spiritual masters who constantly instruct their disciples in spiritual science” are often not disciples of diksa-gurus who have left this world.
RESOLVED: The GBC hereby states their commitment to increase the number of diksa-gurus in ISKCON by systematically and promptly increasing the number of diksa-gurus before we lose the present gurus. The GBC also accepts the principle that the number of diksa-gurus must reflect, as closely as possible, the actual size of ISKCON, and that the future system leans to having many local diksa-gurus with fewer disciples, rather than having a limited number of international gurus with many disciples.
Furthermore, the GBC members will support and promote prominent siksa-gurus initiating while their diksa-gurus are present. The GBC will support programs that facilitate more diksa-gurus while the present diksa-gurus are with us.
JND: Srila Prabhupada: Jāhnavā devī was-Nityānanda's wife. She became. If she is able to go to the highest perfection of life, why it is not possible to become guru? But, not so many. Actually one who has attained the perfection, she can become guru. But man or woman, unless one has attained the perfection....
ReplyDeleteEvery one of these people who think they have attained perfection are fools. Those who take initiation from deluded fools are also fools.
But over all this is "excellent" for the welfare of the world. The infected boil must grow before it can burst.
NN: Anyone who thinks the GBC rubber stamped gurus are bona fide at this point ... must be very foolish after most of their gurus have fallen and most of the rest of them tried to cover up for their fallen peers to keep them in the guru seat as long as possible. Cheaters and the cheated.
LW: One person was fooled. Not very impressive. Even genuine cheaters in India have thousands or even millions of followers. One follower is not even good cheating. They cannot do anything properly, even cheating.
ReplyDeleteNo ... this new female diksha guru cannot take sins of other people properly. As Srila Prabhupada says ... false gurus go to hell and so do their followers. That is because ... they think they can cheat the system.
The system is ... you have to have a bona fide guru who is capable of removing sins. These fools cannot even remove their own sins ... never mind take another's. Cheating on steroids.
Meanwhile, their newly minted guru can not even address the whole pedophile guru system already in place. She is going to add herself to that system ... that means she does not even understand that system has to be dismantled. It is bogus.
What kind of shastra advisors take all the way from 1978 to the present ... to make a ruling ... if a pedophile can be a guru or not. That means they do not know ... if pedophiles can be gurus or not. A person who does not know if pedophiles can be gurus or not ... is not qualified to get a job as a baby sitter.
The baby sitter company would never hire them ... considering them to be unqualified ... and a huge risk. Of course in ISKCON, the unqualified and huge risk ... are made into gurus. First of all, where was this senior lady when all the banning and molesting was going on? And why is she on a committee than cannot figure out if pedophiles are ... or are not ... gurus since 1978? WTF kind of committee is that?
Even the worst level criminals in prison cannot stand the pedophiles ... they for sure know the pedophile is not a guru. That means these ISKCON guru people are not as high moral standard as the lowest class prisoners. They are lower standard that the lowest prisoners ... so lets us make them ... gurus? WTF!!!
This is ridiculous. I don't so much blame the poor disciple. She obviously has a lot of crap for brains adults that gave her a lot of bad advice.
She is another victim of the foolish adults in her life. Just like all the adults who followed Tamal off to Narayan Maharaja ... and got their kids involved. They cheated their own kids. The adults lead their children astray. And in ISKCON ... that means they took them down to less than prisoner morality levels.
NDD: The global elite is certainly moving in the direction of establishing Buddhism / nihilism. Many Christians have already integrated Buddhist elements into their belief system. Also, devotees often quote Buddhist wisdom based on jagan mithya, meaning that the world we live in is false, an illusion. That it's not worth fighting for justice and real religion because everything is an illusion anyway. Prabhupada says that particularly frustrated people are susceptible to nihilism/Buddhism: "Brahma satyam jagan mithya, when you are frustrated." Wasn't this the GBC program, tactics of attrition, after Prabhupada had left? To make devotees frustrated? So for kali-yuga politicians this is the ideal religion because people can be controlled very easily when they are taught that everything is an illusion.
ReplyDeletePADA: Question from mother D (Poland). "I hear Alachua is supposed to be the biggest ISKCON devotee community ... in the world. Why do they allow all these things to go on there? Without any protest? Shouldn't the more senior devotees there set the examples for us? Even the other ISKCON leaders are against the women guru idea."
ReplyDeleteYup. That is the question I get a lot. The answer is pretty simple, all sorts of deviations have been coming down the pipeline since 1978, women gurus being perhaps the least of the problems. Actually the women guru problem is almost not even much of a problem -- since they will never be given much actual authority over the core cadre of men. Making one disciple here or there, giving a lecture here or there, not a big impact.
The main problem is, it represents simply another layer of deviation and yes, the congregation is not protesting or rectifying. But they did not protest or rectify hardly any other deviations either. So it is just one more added foolishness onto a huge pile of foolishness. I really cannot explain how so many people could fall asleep at the switch so easily, but they have.
The good news is, at least some folks are waking up in some places, but Alachua will not be counted as one of those places for some time. All we can do is wake up ourselves and whomever we can influence. I am a supporter of the plight of devotee women in general, they have helped me in many ways, with news updates, preaching our idea and so on. But on no account will they do any better than the men when it comes to imitation of acharyas. They will be just as doomed and condemned as the premature acharya men.
Meanwhile, you should just worship the acharya Srila Prabhupada, that is my recommendation. ys pd
Bhavananda: I have over one thousand disciples and they have required -- and I have given to them willingly -- all of my time and life energy and that has required an inordinate amount of traveling and between the traveling and counseling and the responsibility and the karma, it has brought me to a point where I felt that I was on the verge of a total nervous breakdown or exhaustion.
ReplyDeletePADA: Yup, "the responsibility and the karma" it is called taking karma without authority. None of them have that authority. ys pd