JMD: It looks to me like more and more "ISKCON" projects are not really ISKCON. They look like ISKCON Hare Krishnas, but are being managed under another legal name ... not ISKCON's. And that is because?
More people are afraid of being legally connected to the name of ISKCON ... which has been sued for fraud, child abuse, and other issues. And let us not forget ALL the bad PR media. Or else ... they don't want to have to answer to the ISKCON managers, so they go off on their own.
Now more devotees are making numbers of "spin-offs" ... and it is increasing ... they almost look like they are ISKCON, but they are not. Itself shows the failure of ISKCON's leaders. People are afraid to use the title of ISKCON ... because of the legal jeopardy and really bad name the leaders gave ISKCON. Or they just don't want to make a center where the GBC will establish a bogus guru.
Now the GBC and India ICC are making all sorts of "rules and laws for ISKCON," but there is hardly anyone left in ISKCON anymore. No one cares about ISKCON's laws anymore ... if they are not even in ISKCON.
Notice ... in Atlanta there is the ISKCON temple, which is not ISKCON:
About-Us (atlantaharekrishnas.com)
The Atlanta Hare Krishnas is run by Jayapataka and Devamrita? And Devamrita has his lofts program, also not ISKCON.
And Bhakti Vikas swami (being criticized by some for hi-jacking a few ISKCON people to make his program) which is also not ISKCON:
https://www.thekrishnalife.com/
If BVKS is allegedly hijacking a few people from, or is competing with, the Atlanta Hare Krishnas program, then he is not actually taking anyone from ISKCON? They are not ISKCON.
Caru Dasa has his Utah program, also not ISKCON.
Harivilas has his Seattle program, also not ISKCON.
Texas Krishnas are not ISKCON.
Romapada and New York Temple, also not ISKCON.
Satsvarupa's many spin offs like Gita Nagari Press, also not ISKCON.
Alachua has dozens of charity name spin-offs, not ISKCON.
Radhanath's Chowpatty ... not ISKCON.
Sudhir Krishna swami ... not ISKCON.
Pancadravida swami ... not ISKCON.
Paramadvaiti swami ... not ISKCON.
Jagat guru / BG Narasingha swami ... not ISKCON.
Jnana das / swami ... not ISKCON.
Guru Kripa ... not ISKCON.
Bhakta das ... not ISKCON.
Food For Life ... some of them complaining of being lumped in with ISKCON.
India Heritage Foundation ... told not to use the name of ISKCON, or else! So they called themselves with another title.
Tripurari's program ... not ISKCON.
And Hrdayananda has his separate program, Krishna West, also not ISKCON. Of course ... also many Sridhar and Narayan maharaja spin offs as well.
And etc.!!!
It looks to me like? ISKCON has basically been killed off by horrible management, and now it is just being chopped up further into little pieces, and is being made into hundreds of little separated spin off programs ... that are simply parasites ... siphoning off of the name ISKCON, using the benefit of being connected to Prabhupada and ISKCON, but not giving any help to the actual ISKCON.
Actually they are not even being part of ISKCON. This is also what happened in the Gaudiya Matha. Different leaders ran off and started their own programs and dismantled the main mission.
I hate to be so graphic but ... it looks like they killed off the ISKCON cow and now they are chopping up little pieces to exploit for themselves? I am not sure how else to look at this? Srila Prabhupada would not be pleased with all this exploiting spin off program ... that I could say for sure. They killed it ... now they are chopping it up and using the pieces for themselves.
I also understand that I myself could not use the name of ISKCON ... because their few hold out legal eagles on their team would sue me. In short, they want to make sure no one -- gives ISKCON a good name. And that ISKCON just gets more and more dismantled into tiny spun away pieces .... until nothing is left. JMD
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PADA: Yep, Srila Prabhupada's original ISKCON of San Francisco is called "New Jagannath Puri." And the local Narayan Maharaja folks have hi-jacked the ISKCON title. Now they are New Jagannath Puri!
Of course -- since Narayan Maharaja has been: one the biggest supporters of Tamal's child molesting messiah's program; hanging out with Tamal in Texas; yelling and spitting at our people when they challenged Tamal; NM is one of the people co-responsible for all the molesting -- and then ISKCON being sued and dismantled. So NM helps Tamal create a mass child molesting program in ISKCON, direct or indirect helps have ISKCON sued for $400,000,000, then his people hi-jack the ISKCON people and their titles.
As soon as we challenged Narayan Maharaja's / Tamal's pedophile guru program, he said we are "ritvik poison" -- trying to get us killed for objecting to his mass child molesting project. Yep JMD, they killed the cow and now they are chopping off pieces to exploit. I think you are on to something here!
Did I forget to mention, one of the NM gurus was allegedly having sex with more than one lady? And another Bhakti Bandhav NM guru is supposedly interested in young men and boys, and thus another NM guru had to expose him. So they have the same illicit sex acharya's program that they helped launch in ISKCON. And NM was helping Satsvarupa write their "Guru Reform Notebook," because acharyas often engage in illicit sex with men, women and children -- and then need "reform."
The good news? Lord Yamaraja told Narayan Maharaja, "We were just waiting for you to get here, since we really wanted to get our hands on you, the chief cheer leader of the pedophile messiah's project. Sorry, now you won't be able to spread the glories of your illicit sex with men, women and children acharyas program anymore, since we are going to send you to the place where your fellow pedophile messiah lover's club members have gone to.
"Did we forget to mention? Your 'dear Tamal tree of Radha' was poisoning a pure devotee, and you are going to have to suffer the karma of being the chief hand maiden assistant of Judas, which really does not have much worse karma from any other activity. Even cow killers are like saints compared to pure devotee poisoners and their hand maiden assisting accomplices, OK, like you." ys pd
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PADA: Thanks prabhu. I remember when one of these SABHA people saw me at a temple many years ago and he put his face about three inches from mine and he said to me, "You are not one of those trouble makers are you"? Maximum intimidation. Acting like he was physically threatening violence. Of course, he already knew who I am. In other words, anyone who has objected to the child molesting project and other similar problems is "making trouble" self-evidently. Then, how did you guess, same guy complained after we helped the child molesting lawsuit. "Why didn't he take it to the leaders before going public"? Ummm, because when you confronted me -- you showed me -- I either go public, or face severe intimidation -- or worse. Did If forget to mention they blocked my e-mails, and I got a computer form message back "your messages are not available on our server." Hee hee, so don't be a trouble maker, and don't complain about the abuse of the citizens, then they are all shocked and surprised when they get sued? The SABHA folks have never apologized to me either, or even bothered to communicate in any way, shape or form, which means we have been correct all along, they are not interested in our concerns. I get hundreds of letters from unsatisfied customers to my blog all the time, and I post a lot of them on my blog every year, year after year, and none of the SABHA folks ever asks me about any of this. ys pd
ReplyDeleteM Dasi: This is all bait and switch. Will the real ISKCON please stand up. Carnival house of smoke and mirrors. We are the only one true ISKCON. Except ... when we are being asked about our history ... or being sued ... then we are not ISKCON.
ReplyDeleteWe will use other names ... so we won't be sued ... because we are always being sued. Fine legacy they are leaving for their master.
Bhakti Vikas swami has to make his own movement in Atlanta. Can't get along with the other ISKCON in Atlanta ... which is also not ISKCON.
Himself cannot get along with the other ISKCON leaders ... but he never says the whole thing is bogus ... because he still gets their rubber stamp to be in their franchise club. We are expected to work under the other leaders ... same ones he cannot work under.
His spin of will make other spin offs ... which will make other spin offs. And was that is the plan all along ... divide and conquer ... and dismantle the original ISKCON one brick at a time. We are the only true loyal leaders of ISKCON. Which is why ... we are ashamed of the name of ISKCON. That is what it all comes down to now. Really?
This is kill guru and become guru. And dissect his movement into little bits and pieces ... that we can exploit for our own mini - franchises. Same as they did after 1936. This is not what Srila Prabhupada wanted ... a splintered hodge podge of hundreds of little splintered personal franchises ... while the original corporation is dismantled and dissolved. ISKCON law is a total joke ... they don't even care for ISKCON law ... because they have started their own separate group. We have to follow ISKCON law ... while they don't even belong to ISKCON. These are all clever tricks to keep their guru franchises operating ... at the expense of ISKCON. They think Krishna is being fooled by all their tricks?
LW: Sounds like a winning formula. Tell everyone they have to follow the ISKCON rules. "You'll have to promote Srila Ding-bats for all eternity ... or till the end of the universe. Or until he bloops." At the same time ... sneak out of ISKCON and form a separate institution. That way ... they don't have to promote Srila Ding-bats.
ReplyDeleteAnd they can make fun of the institution for promoting Srila Ding-bats ... and cash in ... by promoting themself. I like that! All of you fools have to worship Srila Ding-bats ... but us? We don't even have to allow him on our separate property. And then ... they can say the institution of ISKCON is a rotten pile of manure for promoting bogus people ... so leave them and join me ... in my separate institution!
What a great way to siphon off ISKCON people into their own pocket! It is a business. First, they make ISKCON have a bad name, then they say ... we are selling "the real deal," and they can extract people out of ISKCON and into their own house!
Such cheating and cheaters is what is now ISKCON. How can anyone not see what is going on here? They are purposefully sabotaging ISKCON so they can siphon people away and into their separate domain. Blood sucking parasites.