HKC Jaipur (Dayalu Nitai) History Revision Question

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PADA: Thanks JM for your question about HKC Jaipur vs PADA relationship. Wow. Sorry! Their people are giving you the upside down version of the history of our exchanges. I know, some of their people are still criticizing PADA as an offender etc. What went wrong? 

OK let us review our history, at least my side of it, in brief. Keep in mind, they are never being consulted over this history by professional writers, the police, FBI, media, book authors etc. because evidently -- their history is -- incorrect. Neither they are being consulted by professional media people even today, as we are. 

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OK Some years ago the HKC group -- i.e. Kamsahanta dasa / Sanat (Steve Voith) / Mukunda (Mark Whitely) / Prahlad das (Paul Coats) / Pancali / Naranarayan / Dayalu Nita's HKC Jaipur team / began to attack PADA, saying we are giving ISKCON a bad name -- because we helped the gurukulis sue the GBC for mass child abuse. 

Which mean? The HKC ilk folks clearly wanted the child abuse to continue -- to add to their pile of victims -- and worse, at the time, there was a growing epidemic of suicides of their victims going on. They did not even think this was a problem -- evidently.

Therefore! Abuse and suicides should be allowed to continue. Wait! The process of increasing abuse and suicides is going to eventually explode in the media anyway and -- give ISKCON "a good name" by citing -- it is an abuse AND suicide cult. Allowing abuse and suicides to continue was exactly what some of the GBC ilk folks ALSO wanted at the time. 

Then the HKC folks combined forces with the GBC's folks, and ganged up with various GBC type folks to attack PADA. Of course PADA's idea is simple -- when victims are being abused and / or dying, we have to stop the bleeding ASAP -- and then worry about the rest later on.

Thus, PADA wanted to halt the abuse / suicides program, and these guys thought that was a bad idea. And they have never explained -- why? And worse, they called the abuse and suicides program "the golden body of ISKCON" and anyone who attacks their abuse and suicides program is "destroying ISKCON." Child abuse and subsequent suicides is "the golden body of Krishna"? Ummm, nope, it might be the golden body of Beelzebub, but not Krishna?

Anyway! Fine. Let us say for the sake of argument -- they are correct -- PADA is  giving ISKCON a bad name. Therefore, let us work with the people who they promote and start giving ISKCON a good name! Agreed. Sign me up. So who do the HKC folks choose to work with -- and promote, to give Krishna a good name?

HKC Jaipur's REMEDY FOR BAD PUBLICITY!

HARI SAURI DASA: OK right away the HKC folks began to cite "Hari Sauri's Diary" -- where he attacks me and Sulochana as "bogus sahajiyas." Wait? You mean Bhavananda's bucket boy is the person we need to cite as our HKC authority? Did we forget to mention Bhavananda's program is cited as being a big part of the child abuse in India? Some of the victims have complained, it is a Satanic child sacrifice cult. Wow, lets work with these guys! 

Did we forget to mention -- ex-children from their process reported being starved, beaten, having their teeth knocked out -- and / or being sexually assaulted -- in Bhavananda's / Hari Sauri's regime? Andy Warhol's sampradaya is going to fix ISKCON! 

Did we forget to mention Sulochana said -- people like Hari Sauri's writings are  "painting a bull's eye on my back to get me killed"? Did we also forget to mention, Sulochana was -- in fact killed -- thanks to these HKC authority folks painting him as a sahajiya. Therefore, in the view of HKC Jaipur, the people who help defend mass molesting and get Sulochana assassinated are "giving ISKCON a good name"? Let us work with and promote them! 

Foolish me! I forgot! The murdering of Vaishnavas and defending pedophile worship program gives ISKCON a good name! Who knew? 

Worse, Sulochana's murder was credited -- even by stalwart GBC-ophiles like Mukunda swami -- as giving ISKCON a BAD name. The GBC and HKC folks have been saying us alleged pot smoking and sari wearing sahajiyas are the only people who address the problem that -- pedophiles are not acharyas. 

The HKC ilk are the ONLY sincere devotees, so they don't bother to address the real issues -- rather only we bogus "dopey gopi" sahajiyas are addressing the real problems. Only us bogus sahajiyas know that pedophiles are not God's successors and acharyas. WTF! That is like advertising for people to become sahajiyas, so they can distinguish good from evil.  

HKC people also claimed me (and Sulochana?) are people who don't chant our rounds. Swell, the people who DO chant their rounds are promoting pedophile acharya lovers like Hari Sauri. Hee hee! Isn't that the worst advert for chanting -- ever! The fallen people who DO NOT chant their rounds are the only people opposing pedophile guru lovers? Well then -- it is best to NEVER CHANT. 

OK that is their idea of giving the chanting a good name! I don't get it at all? The people who help foment molesting and murders are the people giving ISKCON a good name? Really? Did we forget to mention their hero writer's guru Bhavananda was engaged in oral sex with Taxi drivers in the dham, and allegedly with various ISKCON young men. And their program brought in other alleged abusers like Dhanurdar, Nitai Chand, Satadhanya, Bhakti Vidya Purna swami etc. 

I forgot, oral sex with taxi driver messiahs in the dham is their plan to give Krishna a good name. Meanwhile, HKC Jaipur folks said I was bogus for driving a San Francisco taxi, which is the same job Jayananda had, also in San Francisco. So Jayananda is a bogus person for driving a taxi? 

And all that process is how they expect to give Krishna a good name? Did we forget to mention, their writer hero Hari Sauri became the infamous "Prabhupada Kripa Maharaja" -- and many people cited he was among one of the most arrogant, tyrant, narcissistic and cruel leaders -- ever? Never mind, he took no real interest in abuses that were apparently being reported to him.

And thanks to Hari Sauri -- the Govinda's restaurant was then called Gay-vindas. Wow, so much good publicity going on here! Sheesh, sign me up HKC Jaipur! Did I forget to mention, people keep asking me if all these HKC people are -- gays? And has their writing hero Hari Sauri ever helped rectify and explain all this mess, to save Krishna's good name? Nope! He still hangs out with Bhavananda's cheer leader's club even recently in Mayapur.

MUKUNDA DAS / MARK WHITELEY. Then the HKC people were asking people to watch videos on the site of Mukunda das. Right. Why is he important to the HKC Jaipur clan? He is the founder father of the Hitler-anugas, which has a constant stream of complaints sent to me from every Vaishnava camp in the world. The combined Vaishnavas -- worldwide -- all complain that linking Hitler to Krishna is GIVING KRISNA A BAD NAME. 

Wait? I thought we were supposed to be giving Krishna a good name? How does linking Hitler to Krishna give Krishna a good name? I forgot? Forsooth! PADA is not linking Krishna to Hitler, and that is really giving Krishna a bad name! 

HKC Jaipur folks told me Hitler's site is a great program since -- "it is getting lots of hits." Wow, they see a site that promotes Hitler, and they want to make it more popular by giving it free advertising! Ooops, and that is how they are giving Krishna a good name! Sorry, Hitler is about as popular as finding a dog's poop in your sweet rice. Sulochana was very much opposed to us even discussing Hitler in public, he said it would make us look fanatical and foolish, and it has. 

BHAKTA DAS / WILLIAM BENEDICT. 

THEN! The HKC Jaipur folks made a video attacking PADA made with their new shiksha guru, Bhakta das. Wait? Wasn't his designer drugs business (Procaine?) busted by the FBI? Wasn't his "Balarama's Enterprises" connected to the Hare Krishnas in the media? 

Wasn't his story in all over the entire USA's newspapers, "Balarama's designer drugs business busted." I forgot! That is how HKC Jaipur wants to give Lord Balarama a good name! And Sulochana said -- New Vrndavana's crooks were the East Coast distribution center for Bhakta's designer drugs business. Wow. We should use the supporters of New Vrndavana's dubious drug business program as our authority. 

Weren't there also all sorts of horror stories in the media -- at that time -- about the horrible potential ill effects of designer drugs -- being published at the time, such as nervous disorders, spontaneous abortions, madness, even people committing murders -- while taking these horrendous Frankenstein chemical drugs. And this is the type of business the HKC Jaipur thinks is -- giving Krishna a good name? Spontaneous abortions no less? But following Jayananda and driving a taxi is -- a bad form of business. 

THEN! Bhakta das is released on bail and he flees to Thailand, where he is evidently hanging out in Thai bars with Thai prostitutes. And Bhakta even told me he is having sex with these Thai bar girls. And him and Guru Kripa are drinking Vodka and partying etc. OK so he is on the lam from the law, and doing more foolish things.

THEN! Bhakta das flies into Puri, India, and he is arrested for possessing some kind of illegal (child?) porn. And this is ALL OVER the INDIA NEWS PAPERS! I forgot, that is how the HKC Jaipur gives Krishna a good name! Yep, cannot make this stuff up pilgrims!  

THEN! The FBI busts Bhakta out of Puri jail to take him back to the USA -- to try him in court on his drugs business, and the India media folks calls him "The Poppy King" for his drugs business, and they mention his original arrest for illegal porn. Yup! Giving Krishna a good name is what they do at HKC Jaipur!

THEN! Bhakta's business is busted again, and he makes the poor manager take the fall. Again, also in the news media.  

THEN! Bhakta das hooks up with BV Puri Maharaja of the Gaudiya Matha. A nice guy perhaps, but he fails to understand the ritvik issue. And BV Puri is pals with different GBC's gurus, like Gopal Krishna and Radhanath swami. And BV Puri makes a program with a big sign at the entrance of his matha temple advertising a program with "Saint Radhanath." 

Did I forget to mention Radhanath was a huge leader of New Vrndavana which was RAIDED BY THE POLICE and this was in ALL THE NEWSPAPERS, because the leaders there were connected to the MURDER OF SULOCHANA. Wow, the good publicity never ends with these HKC Jaipur folks associates! 

THEN! Bhakta das says we are offending Saint Radhanath. Then, we had to have their program sued for $400,000,000 for mass child abuse, because Saint Radhanath was oppressing the complainers -- like me and Sulochana. But we caused the bad publicity, and not their Saint Radhanath process?

THEN! Bhakta das teams up with Swarupa Hebel to go around complaining about PADA, while glorifying the Gaudiya Matha people -- like Sridhar Maharaja -- who was a big cheer leader of the 11 bogus gurus. Doesn't the HKC Jaipur know that this program is not something we should be connected to?  

THEN! PRAHLAD DAS (Paul coats) sends me a message that he is going to send my photo to his pals, the GBC's violent goondas, to maybe get me assassinated. Then, he does circulate my photo to the GBC's goondas. Wow, these pedophile messiah's lovers club folks know right where to go to get help for their program of having Vaishnavas beaten and assassinated, to defend their pedophile messiah project. Why are HKC people working hand in glove with the pedophile messiah's goondas, at all?

Then Dayalu Nitai says -- Prahlad das is one of our "senior men," which means, I could have reported all of them to the police / FBI for making international terrorist threats from their Jaipur temple location. Of course, I decided to be nice and not get them into hot water, being the nice guy that I am. 

OK I did not want to give Krishna another BAD NEWS MEDIA PUBLCITY STORY, which they self-evidently wanted! They wanted to send people death threats, and they ALREADY know that makes bad media news publicity, but I am the cause of the bad publicity? What! 

Of course Prahlad also says I am making offenses to Sanat, who says he wants to have ISKCON's children "killed, chopped up and fed to dogs in a bloodbath in Dallas," and they sent that statement to the New York Times and Dallas courts. Wow. The good publicity never ends with them does it!   

BHAKTA PETER: Then Bhakta Peter says he cannot see any problem with promoting all this above - mentioned stuff, and he thinks Prahlad is right to be working with these folks, i.e. their favorite pedophile messiah's goonda program folks, which kills people who refuse to worship pedophiles. Nothing wrong with that! 

KAMSAHANTA: Another big HKC Jaipur groupie. Told me to stop working on the BBTI lawsuit, the molesting issue, and the poison issue in 1997. Why? He was going to work out a deal with Jayapataka and Hrdayananda. 

And the first deal he worked out? PADA needs to take a vacation in the Caribbean and quit writing, and the GBC will pay for my travel and vacation expense. OK I would have been disappeared forever if I had taken up their deal. I would have gone to the Caribbean -- and never would have been heard from ever again. Ever! He still says my work is the worst thing that ever happened to ISKCON. His bogus deal making turned out to be a big bluff, he never accomplished any deal. 

Question? How can we "work out a deal" with the SAME regime that is banning, beating, molesting suing and assassinating Vaishnavas? He said we need to give the GBC guru guys "a face saving off ramp." Make nicey nice! Yep, let us make them look good! Wait! We need to make the people who give ISKCON a bad name -- a good name? Hee hee.

Looks to me like these people are fighting their own shadow. Let us get rid of PADA, who is saving children from abuse and suicide, and he is encouraging people to worship Srila Prabhupada, and let us give the people creating the abuse and suicide process, and worship of pedophile messiahs process, a face saving off ramp of re-emergence as the saviors of the Jagat. 

This is not going to work dudes! Even if I wanted to help them promote the pedophiles as gurus process -- as / ritviks / Saint Radhanath / or whatever process, even I could not polish up this situation to be publicly acceptable. And that is why Chanakhya Pandit says, "No matter how many times you wash an a**hole, it never becomes a face." I need to give these molester messiah's people -- a face saving off ramp? Hee hee. Anyway, this is a brief description of our history. 

In sum, it seems -- they STILL sympathize with parts or all of the molester messiah's project. And that is why they went to war with PADA. They wanted this war, and they got exactly what they desired. NOW YOU KNOW WHY ISKCON IS IN SUCH A MESS, these type people have defended the mess makers, and resisted any effort to clean it up. ys pd

Same as GBC people, trying to cover up the abuse problem ...

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