Wednesday, August 24, 2022

Can the ISKCON GBC Replace Krishna?

August 21, 1985: On this date in history 37 years ago, during an address to his disciples in New York City, Bhavananda Swami Vishnupada, one of the eleven “Divine ISKCON spiritual masters,” confessed that he had “many flaws, inebrieties, [and] material desires.”

"At this [August, New Vrindaban] meeting it was presented to me that someone had testified that I had approached them for sex in Vrindaban in 1980, and I went to Balavanta and Rupanuga and Tamal-Krishna Prabhus and told them, “Yes, that was right. It was true.”

[PADA: There you have it. The GBC, Rupanuga, Balavanta, Mukunda swami and many others knew that their "shaksad hari tvena" acharyas -- "as good as God" -- are defective, if not lusty dogs. Yet, they continued to support the idea that these GBC folks are good as God "gurus." 

Worse, Rupanuga and his ISKCON Justices Department -- or whatever it is called --  self-appointed themselves to be some sort of ad hoc "administrative manager" of their 11 acharyas. Wow. Normally! Krishna manages the acharyas from within the heart as "chaitya guru," but Rupanuga suddenly says -- nope! Rupanuga will kick out Krishna's dictation -- and take over managing the dictation to the acharyas. Who needs Krishna's dictations when we have Rupanuga's?

Yep, Krishna is a fool because He cannot manage His acharyas. Never mind, the Rupanuga guys are here to take over managing / dictation to / acharyas instead of Krishna. Rupanuga still says that his lusty dog-like pals were supposed to be ISKCON's gurus. 

He does not know? Lusty dogs are not / were not / God's successors? And that saying lusty dogs are equals to God, is a highly offensive attack -- on God? And Rupanuga is going to annoint his lusty dog pals as messiahs, and then manage them? A dog is as good as -- God? 

And why would they say that in the first place, unless they actually believe that a dog and God are "shaksat" equals? Notice -- they knew their shaksat hari -- as good as God -- alleged messiahs -- were falling down almost right away after 1978. 

Did we forget to mention, thanks to Rupanuga and his pals making illicit sex into acharyas, there was illicit sex going on full tilt all over the place, including mass child molesting? And they forgot to manage these kinds of problems?

And worse, they were holding their "managing the acharya" meetings in New Vrndavana, where Kirtanananda had been sitting on a big seat -- covered with the hands of many little boys. And a CBS news lady saw this scene and she tells me, this is "pedophile heaven." How can they mistake pedophile heaven for the actual Vaikuntha heaven, unless they are compromised with the Satanic pedophile worship heaven agenda?

And when did Srila Prabhupada say, the acharyas are no longer going to be managed by Krishna, they are now going to be managed by Rupanuga, Mukunda swami and Balavanta etc.? And since the Rupanuga et al. system supported the pedophile acharya's system, why is their system superior to Krishna's system, where only pure devotees are acharyas, and they get dictation from Krishna? And how can their pedophile guru's system be superior to Krishna's? 

Where does Srila Prabhupada say that the GBC / Rupanaga etc. are now going to be in charge of managing the acharyas? Even Hansadutta said, how can a highly defective Governing Body dictate -- to the acharyas?]
 
When all of the presidents and senior men heard, naturally of course, they became concerned. Their feeling was that this is another symptom that there is something wrong with our system, that this is going to go on like: “Ten little, nine little, eight little Indians, seven little, six little, five little Indians,” like that. 

[PADA: The whole idea that a defective Governing Body is going to dictate to the acharyas is the wrong system right out of the gate. The idea that Krishna is no longer going to manage the acharyas, but Rupanuga is instead, is foolishness on steroids. How can Rupanuga think he is going to replace Krishna's dictations, with his own?]

So the Privilege Committee of the GBC, which is the body which is assigned to investigate breach of faith situations like this, met yesterday. The Privilege Committee meeting went on for some hours and their final result was that one of the main factors in the fall down of Bhavananda Goswami has been the acharya system that has been set up.

[PADA: Right, Bhavananda never was an acharya, so he was falling down from an already fallen position.]

That doesn’t excuse me, but they all see that is one of the main factors and I also see that. So, in light of that, their recommendation to me is that for an indefinite period of time -- I not initiate, and that regarding my GBC activities I should continue as a GBC member with full authority as a GBC man, but I’m on probation which means that I will be watched to see that I reform myself. That was their decision.

[PADA: Wait? He is falling down into illicit sex, but he should be allowed to continue on as a GBC, where he is propping up the other false acharyas.] 

I was actually thinking anyway (see how Krishna fulfills your desire) I had been becoming so worn down from excessive traveling and even before I went to New Vrindaban and before this came up. I was seriously meditating on taking some time off anyway from initiating. 

I have over one thousand disciples and they have required -- and I have given to them willingly -- all of my time and life energy and that has required an inordinate amount of traveling and between the traveling and counseling and the responsibility and the karma, it has brought me to a point where I felt that I was on the verge of a total nervous breakdown or exhaustion.

[PADA: Yup. How did you guess, these gurus are as good as Jesus and they are TAKING YOUR SINS / KARMA. They are homosexuals, they are maybe pedophiles, and they are -- as good as Jesus? Which is why! My "karmi" friends ask me, "Are these people spraying PCP on their hash pipes"?]

I have nothing to hide anymore. I’m not a 100% pure devotee at all. I have many, many flaws, inebrieties, material desires. . . . It’s my fault and on another hand it’s not my fault: it’s the system’s fault. Everything was thrust upon us. (End quote)

Gold, Guns and God, Vol. 6, pp. 41-42.

August 1980: On or around this date in history 42 years ago, the GBC approved a paper written by Satsvarupa, Jagadish, Bhagavan and Jayapataka. One section, titled “The Philosophical Understanding of Discrepancies and Their Rectification,” explained that even uttama-adhikari devotees fall down from time to time and if there are “failures and setbacks” they should be seen instead as “pillars of success.”

Three ISKCON gurus were disciplined by the GBC that year: Jayatirtha, Hamsadutta and Tamal-Krishna. Jayatirtha dasa (James Edward Immel) served as ISKCON zonal guru for Great Britain and South Africa. Among other ways, Jayatirtha tainted his position by secretly consuming LSD, a psychedelic drug strictly off-limits to Vaishnavas. “Jayatirtha had been holding twelve-hour-long kirtan sessions, during which he would laugh, roll on the ground, and cry out incoherently.”

Nandini devi dasi, an Assistant Editor for ISKCON World Review, recalled. “He lectured about the divine love of Radha and Krishna in the spiritual world and told his disciples that he was experiencing devotional ecstasy. Only the GBC knew that his ecstasies were symptoms of a drug-induced psychosis. In Vrindaban and Mayapur during the 1980 GBC meetings he went out of control on heavy doses of LSD. Later he revealed that he had never fully stopped taking the drug, despite having been a devotee for ten years.”

Another ISKCON zonal guru who had become an embarrassment for the movement was Hamsadutta Swami (Hans Kary, aka Jack London), the zonal acharya for Northern California, Oregon, Washington, Shri Lanka, Hong Kong, China, Thailand, Malaysia, Singapore and the Philippines. As a guru, Hamsadutta developed a keen interest in guns, women and rock ‘n roll, and eventually went berserk. He was arrested and convicted for shooting up a liquor store and Cadillac dealership showroom in Berkeley, California.

Ravindra-Svarupa recalled some of Hamsadutta’s bad habits while he was an ISKCON guru, “Hamsadutta, he had problems with women, booze and guns; intoxication, with illicit sex and a special fondness for gun collecting.”

Another ISKCON guru who was disciplined in 1980 was Tamal-Krishna Goswami, the GBC and initiating guru for Texas, Oklahoma, Arkansas, Kansas, Missouri, Nebraska, Iowa, Illinois, Wisconsin and Minnesota, who was remembered for his controversial tactics during his days as leader of the Radha-Damodara traveling sankirtan bus party some years earlier which had caused much consternation for Bhaktivedanta Swami Prabhupada. Tamal-Krishna was noted for his ambitious nature and forceful, dictatorial personality. He claimed to have become Prabhupada’s sole successor.

A Prabhupada disciple, in a letter to Tamal-Krishna Goswami, remembered, “After his [Prabhupada’s] disappearance, you wasted no time to proclaim yourself as his sole successor-acharya in Bombay. Initially you even had a vyasasana built for yourself in the Juhu Beach Temple and it was bigger than Shrila Prabhupada’s. You also told all of your godbrothers that the only way to approach Shrila Prabhupada was through you alone, since you had become his sole successor.”

“Eleven Naked Emperors,” Chapter 9, “ISKCON Gurus Begin to Deviate."


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ND: MOST DANGEROUS CUNNING CROOKS DEMONS AND BIGGEST OFFENDERS, DISGUISED IN VAISHNAVA CLOTHES POSING AS LEADERS / TEACHERS / GURUS. THEY WANT TO CHANGE EVERYTHING (AND HAVE DONE IT IN FACT UP TO QUITE BIG EXTENT ALREADY), THE ORIGINAL BOOKS AS GIVEN BY SHRILA PRABHUPADA AND OTHER GREAT VAISHNAVA ACHARYAS!!!

CONDITIONED SOULS, NO MATTER HOW HARD THEY MAY TRY, CAN NEVER EVER BE INCLUDED AS SUCCESSORS, WHO CONTINUE SHRI GURU PARAMPARA. AND THERE ARE BIG GAPS IN THE PARAMPARA, WHICH IS A VERY NORMAL REALITY ... HAPPENED MANY TIMES!!!

"As soon as you change it, then the potency of the movement is lost."

Prabhupada: History, it is not a new movement. You have seen this book. You read that book thoroughly. You will get full knowledge. This movement is very, very old and standard. It is never changed. As soon as you change it, then the potency of the movement is lost."

Shrila Prabhupada , Room Conversation with Bill Faill (reporter), October 8, 1975, Durban

1 comment:

  1. M Dasi: That is what happened here. One huge manure pile after the next. We kept being told ... no worries ... this is going to be fixed at the next GBC meeting. They had no intention of fixing anything at the next GBC meeting.

    This is just a means of covering up for the criminals and their crimes ... and allowing the exploiting to continue. We will fix it later ... and "later" never happens. It is a stalling technique. It is like having a lousy land lord who keeps telling you ... we are going to fix the leak next month.

    Next month comes ... never mind ... it is really the following month ... then the month after ... and later is always the answer ... we will fix it later! There is no later. They have had no plan or intent to fix anything now or later.

    This is all stalling around so all the problems could be allowed to go on ... and on and on and on. And one of those problems has been the child abuse and molesting. And notice ... Lokanath. We will have a committee decide ... later. And later. When exactly is "later"? I know ... when all of them are in the graveyard.

    And that has been their whole shuffle and waffle trick the whole time. Later and later and later. And these Rupanuga, Balavanta, Mukunda sorts ... they must have knew that nothing was ever going to get fixed "later" either. They are the cover up boys for the crooks.

    Yes! Just stay calm ... don't get alarmed ... or upset ... we have it all under control. Really? When is that? Later. And then most everyone gets exploited and ISKCON goes down the sewer pipe. That is all we get "later."

    And these big leaders cause all this to happen ... by their painting a happy face on their demonic / Satan / Krishna's bogus successors program. They made this happen by being the smooth talking salesmen for the dangerous chemical plant.

    Sure ... people are getting sick from noxious gasses from our chemical plant ... but we are going to fix it ... later. When is later? After they and us are dead. They sold us the dangerous chemical plant as some sort of wonderful thing that will help us ... but people got sick ... and died anyway. They knew what they were selling the whole time ... or they are the most ignorant people ever in Vaishnava history.

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