Lenny Sislachttp://www.prabhupadanugas.eu/?p=19977
Make Wealth and Accounts of ISKCON Leaders visible | BIF
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The solution to the problem lies on the paper trail. How is it that an organization with claims to constant ongoing expansion, cries bankrupt when put under the legal hammer? The answer is simple:- they do not hold valuables or assets in a central bank but have franchised ‘gurus’ who build wealth.
Louis Bernier: Srila Prabhupada has said that one should be practicing what he preaches BEFORE such preaching! We would also like to see YOUR "wealth and Accounts" - FIRST!!! Do not ask someone to do, what YOU are not prepared to do - first!
Lenny Sislac: Prabhupada: "Bookkeeping is the most important item. As you are growing in stature, our accounting system should become very perfect. We have to publish now a short statement of accounts. As we increase our life membership number, we must submit our audited accounts and that will convince the public of our stability." Prabhupada: "There will be many discrepancies in the trial balance if books are not kept properly. Trial balance means to test how the accounts are kept scientifically. So if the accounts are not kept properly but haphazardly there will never be a correct trial balance. To present a correct trial balance means to correct the whole past accounting system. One letter has just come from Giriraja in which it is said "As for accounts, at least the trial balance sheet has shown great discrepancies. For example I have collected Rs 70,000/- from the Maidan advertisers, but only Rs. 55,000/- has been recorded, and after being informed I was able to account for a possible Rs 5600/- of the difference, but still Rs 9,400/- is unaccounted for. Also a profit of Rs. 15,000/- was supposed to have been made due to the maidan program, and that profit was to have paid off a previous Calcutta debt to the building fund, but now that Rs 15,000/- has been spent for maintenance, and an additional Rs 8000/- of membership money collected since the program has also been spent, so the Calcutta debit is now Rs. 23,000/- and is increasing''. Now who will be responsible to account for this Rs 23,000/-? Please let me know. And who has been appointed treasurer and secretary? The president, secretary and treasurer elected by the members of the center cannot be changed at least for one year; better to continue it for three years. All combined together should be responsible for keeping correct accounts."
Louis Bernier: Lenny, I still do not see where Srila Prabhupada is asking for an accounting of "personal" - individual accounts; or, that ANY "accounting" be published to the general public???
Have I missed where they were to submit the report to YOU?
Lenny Sislac: @Louis Bernier Do not ask someone to do, what YOU are not prepared to do - first! Answer: With respect, you should be curious within your limit. I'm not a globalized monastic order where there is no cartel office who checks their bookkeeping. That's like comparing pears and oranges? I'm obligated to my local tax office, not to others. So far my fiscal authorities are satisfied with my accounting system. Is this an satisfactory answer for you?
Louis Bernier: It is a satisfactory answer for everyone - including ISKCON!
Lenny Sislac: @Louis Bernier Lenny, I still do not see where Srila Prabhupada is asking for an accounting of "personal" - individual accounts; or, that ANY "accounting" be published to the general public??? Answer, Prabhupada: "Otherwise, those who are renounced order, those who are brahmacari, for them to keep money separately for his maintenance or for accumulating bank balance is not allowed." (Bhagavad-gita lecture New York 1966)
Louis Bernier: Where did He appoint you the Sheriff?
PADA: This is the same identical question people of Louis ilk asked me in the early 1980s when I said there was child molesting problem, they asked me the same thing, "Who appointed you as the sheriff?" and in this way Louis ilk people stunted and checked my protest, thus Louis ilk people created several thousnds of children to get molested by attacking our protest. Hence, Louis ilk program is directly responsible for all the molesting because of their attack on us dissenters of the molesting program. And after Louis ilk program created thousands of molestings by hampering and attacking us dissenters, they are proud that they created thousands of molesting by attacking our protest. They are still saying no one should ask for accountability, whether on money issues, molesting issues, or any other issues, Louis ilk wants full regin of the criminal actions to take place unchecked. Thanks pd
Make Wealth and Accounts of ISKCON Leaders visible | BIF
http://www.prabhupadanugas.eu/
The solution to the problem lies on the paper trail. How is it that an organization with claims to constant ongoing expansion, cries bankrupt when put under the legal hammer? The answer is simple:- they do not hold valuables or assets in a central bank but have franchised ‘gurus’ who build wealth.
Louis Bernier: Srila Prabhupada has said that one should be practicing what he preaches BEFORE such preaching! We would also like to see YOUR "wealth and Accounts" - FIRST!!! Do not ask someone to do, what YOU are not prepared to do - first!
Lenny Sislac: Prabhupada: "Bookkeeping is the most important item. As you are growing in stature, our accounting system should become very perfect. We have to publish now a short statement of accounts. As we increase our life membership number, we must submit our audited accounts and that will convince the public of our stability." Prabhupada: "There will be many discrepancies in the trial balance if books are not kept properly. Trial balance means to test how the accounts are kept scientifically. So if the accounts are not kept properly but haphazardly there will never be a correct trial balance. To present a correct trial balance means to correct the whole past accounting system. One letter has just come from Giriraja in which it is said "As for accounts, at least the trial balance sheet has shown great discrepancies. For example I have collected Rs 70,000/- from the Maidan advertisers, but only Rs. 55,000/- has been recorded, and after being informed I was able to account for a possible Rs 5600/- of the difference, but still Rs 9,400/- is unaccounted for. Also a profit of Rs. 15,000/- was supposed to have been made due to the maidan program, and that profit was to have paid off a previous Calcutta debt to the building fund, but now that Rs 15,000/- has been spent for maintenance, and an additional Rs 8000/- of membership money collected since the program has also been spent, so the Calcutta debit is now Rs. 23,000/- and is increasing''. Now who will be responsible to account for this Rs 23,000/-? Please let me know. And who has been appointed treasurer and secretary? The president, secretary and treasurer elected by the members of the center cannot be changed at least for one year; better to continue it for three years. All combined together should be responsible for keeping correct accounts."
Louis Bernier: Lenny, I still do not see where Srila Prabhupada is asking for an accounting of "personal" - individual accounts; or, that ANY "accounting" be published to the general public???
Have I missed where they were to submit the report to YOU?
Lenny Sislac: @Louis Bernier Do not ask someone to do, what YOU are not prepared to do - first! Answer: With respect, you should be curious within your limit. I'm not a globalized monastic order where there is no cartel office who checks their bookkeeping. That's like comparing pears and oranges? I'm obligated to my local tax office, not to others. So far my fiscal authorities are satisfied with my accounting system. Is this an satisfactory answer for you?
Louis Bernier: It is a satisfactory answer for everyone - including ISKCON!
Lenny Sislac: @Louis Bernier Lenny, I still do not see where Srila Prabhupada is asking for an accounting of "personal" - individual accounts; or, that ANY "accounting" be published to the general public??? Answer, Prabhupada: "Otherwise, those who are renounced order, those who are brahmacari, for them to keep money separately for his maintenance or for accumulating bank balance is not allowed." (Bhagavad-gita lecture New York 1966)
Louis Bernier: Where did He appoint you the Sheriff?
PADA: This is the same identical question people of Louis ilk asked me in the early 1980s when I said there was child molesting problem, they asked me the same thing, "Who appointed you as the sheriff?" and in this way Louis ilk people stunted and checked my protest, thus Louis ilk people created several thousnds of children to get molested by attacking our protest. Hence, Louis ilk program is directly responsible for all the molesting because of their attack on us dissenters of the molesting program. And after Louis ilk program created thousands of molestings by hampering and attacking us dissenters, they are proud that they created thousands of molesting by attacking our protest. They are still saying no one should ask for accountability, whether on money issues, molesting issues, or any other issues, Louis ilk wants full regin of the criminal actions to take place unchecked. Thanks pd
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