Future Births of ISKCON gurus (pt. 1 draft) ys pd

　
　
　
　
　
　
Srila Prabhupada writes that his Hare Krishna society's ISKCON leaders have a great responsibility -- and that mis-use of that responsibility -- will lead to great punishment. At this point in time, most honest people agree that these leaders have mis-used their authority and responsibility, thus -- the only question left remaining is, how badly have they "misused their authority" and as such "how badly will they be punished"? We'd like to cite some points from the Vedic shastra on these issues to evaluate such questions.

First of all, the Sri Isopanisad says that when deviated people concoct false gurus, such as the currently disconnected branch of ISKCON with its over 230 "voted in" bogus gurus, it is FAR better that these deviated folks had never even heard of the Vedas. Such people are called "veda vada rata," or persons who corrupt and distort the Vedas by concocting these false gurus projects, and as such their future is always very dark. Such false religionists are also condemned in the Bhagavata Gita, since they simply create an atmosphere of cheating in the name of religion, and thus they alienate the mass of people away from God. In other words, these false religionists are working against the purpose, aim, object and intent of God, hence, these miscreants are punished much more severely than the ordinary man by the agents of God. Indeed, all bona fide shastra agrees that these false religionists are cast into a much more severe hell than the ordinary man, because the ordinary man is not trying to cheat people in the name of religion.

The Sri Isopanisad confirms that these bogus guru regimes, as we find in current corporate ISKCON, are going to be punished FAR worse than the ordinary man, because they are vastly more sinful than the ordinary man due to their mis-representing the aim and purposes of God. The Sri Isopanisad sums up, false guru regimes like we find in ISKCON, as well as their vociferous supporters, are "destined for the most obnoxious regions of the universe after their spiritual master business is over. They may escape punishment from the laws of the state, but they will never escape punishment from the laws of God." Its very clear that making unqualified persons into false messiahs and "gurus" is one of the worst sins there is, therefore the followers of that system are NOT ONLY destined an obnoxious future, but they are destined for the MOST obnoxious future.

At the same time, we see that there are a fewer number of somewhat innocent people currently in ISKCON, they have no actual faith in these gurus, but they are there to serve Krishna and Srila Prabhupada. So these innocent people are simply awaiting the day that these false gurus will be rooted out and then they can worship the pure devotee Srila Prabhupada. I know about these people because some of them write to me regularly. This same type of thing occured at the time of Krishna, many innocent people were forced to worship King Kamsa, but as soon as they saw Krishna appearing in Mathura, they cried in happiness since they were only worshipping these demons by coercion. Certainly Krishna knows "whom is whom" in this regard. On the other hand, there are many paid up salaried pscyhophants of these gurus and they are not at all innocent, their fate is to be handed off to the Yamaduttas for acting as paid servants of the usurpers of Krishna's property.

In short, with the exception of a few innocent people in ISKCON, shastra is quite conclusive that most of the members of the false ISKCON guru regime would have been far better off to have not even heard about the Vedas, because its is most sinful to mis-use the Vedas for selfish gains. Exploiting religion is compared to exploiting God directly, and the result is, one simply angers God and the agents of God, thus one's future is very dark. Next, we find ISKCON's bogus leaders are always saying that God's messiah successors and gurus are constantly falling down into abominable deviations.

The bogus ISKCON leader's attack on the position of God's messiahs is also explained in shastra: "gurusuh narah matih ... naraka sah," i.e. anyone who says gurus fall down like an ordinary man is a resident of hell (narakah). The false gurus of ISKCON openly admit that most of their 230 messiahs has fallen down. Indeed, ISKCON's false messiah's spokesman Jayadvaita swami wrote a paper saying that -- in point of actual fact -- most of their 230 messiahs has fallen and have been found "engaged in illicit sex with men, women and children." Apparently even ordinary street dogs are more advanced than messiahs nowadays, since dogs are not "engaged in illicit sex with men, women and children." So these false ISKCON gurus are basically saying that even a dog's behavior is superior to God's messiahs, surely they will reap considerable wrath from the agents of God for their juxtaposing their illicit sex messiahs with actual great devotees of God.

This means these bogus ISKCON leaders who are promoting these illicit sex messiahs are already residents of hell or "narakah" by the statements of shastra. This is rather amazing really, it means the primary leaders of the ISKCON guru system are already residents of hell, even though they appear to be living on the earth at the present time. In other words, by the the ISKCON leaders constantly stating that God's messiahs are mostly degraded debauchees, this type of insult is called "the mad elephant offense to pure devotees," which cannot be rectified or forgiven easily. Shastra says: it is worse than suicide to deliberately indulge in sex life, especially in the renounced order of life. Sex life in the renounced order of life is the most perverted form of religious life, and such a misguided person can only be saved if, by chance, he meets a pure devotee." (SB 2.6.20: Purport). Shastra is sum calls the ISKCON guru system "the most perverted form of religion."
　
Neither do these bogus ISKCON self proclaimed saints want to be rectified, because as soon as we say that God's pure devotee messiahs are NOT illicit sex debauchees, we are immediately banned, removed, excommunicated and threatened with violence. Apparently, only those persons who agree that messsiahs are debauchees are allowed to stay in ISKCON.
Shastra furthermore says that persons who imitate pure devotees and gurus are never forgiven by the Lord nor any agents of the Lord. Of course we have had in ISKCON many foolish "advisors" to the bogus ISKCON gurus such as: Sridhara Maharaja, Narayana Maharaja, Gaura Govinda maharaja, Tripurari maharaja and others who say we need to forgive the failings of these bogus messiahs, which proves these apologists are ALSO bogus because shastra says NONE of the agents of God EVER forgives these falling down people who pose as messiahs and gurus.

To illustrate the fate of these bogus ISKCON gurus we cite a verse from the fifth canto of Srimad Bhagavatam: A person who appropriates another’s legitimate wife, children or money is arrested at the time of death by the fierce Yamadutas, who bind him with the rope of time and forcibly throw him into the hellish planet known as Tamisra. On this very dark planet, the sinful man is chastised by the Yamadutas, who beat and rebuke him. He is starved, and he is given no water to drink. Thus the wrathful assistants of Yamaraja cause him severe suffering, and sometimes he faints from their chastisement.

This verse clearly applies to these false gurus, they have had most of the members of the ISKCON society removed so they could steal away the rightful property and assets of the citizens of ISKCON. Notice also that if one take money meant for other's children, one has to go to hell. Imagine then, the fate of these false gurus who stole the ISKCON funds meant to care for programs such as these ISKCON school children, thereby creating a situation where many of the children ended up with not enough food, clothes, blankets, soap and ordinary supplies. Some of these children in fact died from medical neglect. Worse, these false gurus brought in their own hand selected team of child abusers, beaters and molesters to infest the schools with their own abominable program of mass child molesting which created for example "an edidemic of anal reconstructive surgery" for boys in these guru's schools. In other words, these bogus gurus siphoned off the money meant to care for these children so they could live a luxurious lifestyle of five star hotels, sevants, big feasts, big cars, and other jet set conditions, meanwhile these gurus forced the children to be in a condition of being starved, beaten, abused and molested. Of course even in ordinary mundane life people who treat children like this are considered as Satanic sinners destined for the darkest hells. At the same time, by the program of mass molesting perhaps thousands of children, the gurus were sued for $400m and they bankrupted the entire ISKCON society as a result.

Another Bhagvatam verse tells us that The destination of a person who uses sly cheating techniques to steal from another man is cast into a hell known as Andhatamisra. The person is punished so severely he goes blind, so learned sages call this hell Andhatamisra. Of course these ISKCON gurus do not only use subtle sly cheating techniques, when they cannot fool others by their bags of trickery, then have had Krishna devotees banned, beaten, and sometimes assassinated for opposing their regime. So they have used every bogus and sinful technique there is, all the way from subtle coercion to criminally violent tactics, all so they could take over the properties of ISKCON and Srila Prabhupada.