Dear THH -- Gurus do not fall down (ISKCON) ys pd

Dear THH, OK, good progress, so now you are admitting you are saying that acharyas fall down, which shastra says is -- gurusuh narah matih narakah sah, anyone who says acharyas fall down like an ordinary man is a resident of hell (narakah). Therefore you are an official resident of hell, says shastra. Why should I listen to you since you just admitted that your idea is that acharyas are falling down, which shastra says makes you a resident of narakah? Narakah sah actually means, you are already there, you are already a resident of hell -- and you are lecturing to others? As for the Christians, yes we are following their idea, they say that the priest is falling down, that is the correct idea, that is what we (ritviks) say. Whereas you and the GBC says its not the priest -- its the acharyas who are falling down, and this means -- narakah sah, one is a resident of hell, already. Shastras say you are a resident of hell and you are simply trying to drag me and others there with you. Srila Prabhupada wanted persons engaged in illicit sex with men, women and children to beocme gurus? No, he never said that. As for Lokanatha, Srila Prabhupada says diksha / initiation means that the guru is abosorbing the sins of the followers just like Jesus is taking the sins of his followers, how can a person who is touching little girls be another Jesus, who is giving diksha and taking sins? That means now you are attacking Jesus as an ordinary man. Now you are telling me people who are diksha gurus like Jesus might "bloop"? A person like Jesus is the blooper, but you are the advanced one here? What! ys pd