Ex-kuli to PADA "Just seeing these faces
reminds me of Satan worshipers"
angel108b@yahoo.com
*** Hare Krishna dear devotees please accept my obeisance. I'm disciple of His Holiness Bhakti Vidya Purna Swami Maharaj. I am writing here because I see many of devotees were confused by latest order towards Guru maharaj. As I see and as I heard from other spiritual masters of iskcon, this letter about Guru maharaj- is only slander.
Yesterday I talked with Guru maharaj. I was very shocked by this harrasment. But Guru maharaj said to me:
ISKON is movement of lord Chaitanya. And everyone came here and trying to elevate his consciousness. But everyone should go through the process of anartha nivriti. Devotees has different types of anarthas, someone's anarthas are more political.
And this anarthas are not more bad than others. We shouldn't be distracted by their anarthas. We just should do our service to Shrila Prabhupada and don't mind what other people do. We should back home to Krishna and help other people to do it by our preaching.
So Guru maharaj completely focus on his service, he full of forgiveness to agressive people and fully dedicated to Srila Prabhupada. Hare Krishna.//
Nothing is as simple as it seems...(apparently)
DW: Cognitive dissonance. The new information destroys the presently accepted knowledge that one is attached to keeping. But this time, the new information is difficult to discredit (particularly when the subject has confirmed its veracity) … So what do you do? You spin the new information to make it “ok”, or at least not incompatible with your cherished understanding. …The cheating rolls on.
GSD: It sounds like bvp is telling his disciples testimonies are not true. People need to see his admittance. If he says this to his disciples it is highly hypocritical.
DL: It's important to have read this post. It shows what is being said to BVP disciples. I would never have imagined such delusion was possible.
UD: They tried to tell us a similar things about Bhavananda ... that his fall down was a Lila !!!!!! The supporters of these evil men have a lot to answer for. The last batch of Bhavananda disciples in Australia were not told about his fall down before they were initiated. In fact, they held a secret meeting for the already initiated disciples and told them of the fall down(s) ... But purposely choose not to tell the aspiring initiates.
DL: That's awful. As if you all wouldn't feel terribly betrayed once you found out...
AD: Why? Kirtanananda was the KING of it and who can count his victims???
PDD: Even he has not got / understood the philosophy correctly. He says "this anartha are not more bad than others." If all anartha's are on the same level, why did Prabhupada give us the 10 Offenses to avoid, why did Prabhupada warn us about the mad elephant offense, why did he warn us about vaisnava aparadha, etc etc? Rhetorical.
SV: CULT!
BSD: I haven’t read the other 49 comments yet but will do that later. If the disciple has accurately relayed what was said to him this is quite a joke. It is all but a confession via using a mechanism which says “we are all guilty.“ I mean isn’t it very obvious?
PDD: The excuse of doing reiki on her is nonsense because, as one who knows reiki, there is NO NEED to touch a person. Reiki can be given from an inch above the body to 6 inches above it, to feet above, and more! At least, that is an option.
So Guru maharaj completely focus on his service, he full of forgiveness to agressive people and fully dedicated to Srila Prabhupada. Hare Krishna.//
Nothing is as simple as it seems...(apparently)
DW: Cognitive dissonance. The new information destroys the presently accepted knowledge that one is attached to keeping. But this time, the new information is difficult to discredit (particularly when the subject has confirmed its veracity) … So what do you do? You spin the new information to make it “ok”, or at least not incompatible with your cherished understanding. …The cheating rolls on.
GSD: It sounds like bvp is telling his disciples testimonies are not true. People need to see his admittance. If he says this to his disciples it is highly hypocritical.
DL: It's important to have read this post. It shows what is being said to BVP disciples. I would never have imagined such delusion was possible.
UD: They tried to tell us a similar things about Bhavananda ... that his fall down was a Lila !!!!!! The supporters of these evil men have a lot to answer for. The last batch of Bhavananda disciples in Australia were not told about his fall down before they were initiated. In fact, they held a secret meeting for the already initiated disciples and told them of the fall down(s) ... But purposely choose not to tell the aspiring initiates.
DL: That's awful. As if you all wouldn't feel terribly betrayed once you found out...
AD: Why? Kirtanananda was the KING of it and who can count his victims???
PDD: Even he has not got / understood the philosophy correctly. He says "this anartha are not more bad than others." If all anartha's are on the same level, why did Prabhupada give us the 10 Offenses to avoid, why did Prabhupada warn us about the mad elephant offense, why did he warn us about vaisnava aparadha, etc etc? Rhetorical.
SV: CULT!
BSD: I haven’t read the other 49 comments yet but will do that later. If the disciple has accurately relayed what was said to him this is quite a joke. It is all but a confession via using a mechanism which says “we are all guilty.“ I mean isn’t it very obvious?
PDD: The excuse of doing reiki on her is nonsense because, as one who knows reiki, there is NO NEED to touch a person. Reiki can be given from an inch above the body to 6 inches above it, to feet above, and more! At least, that is an option.
RE: https://youtu.be/UvlRAyM3p4Q
Cost of Silence
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Hare Krishna! If they don’t mislead their disciples how can they keep the donations from coming into their pockets. They have to lie and hope the lie works on some people in order to maintain their income flow. Hare Krishna
KM: Problem here ist to confuse anarthas with aparadha. Aparadha (especially against Vaisnavas) is something Krishna will not tolerate and sooner or later the weeds are growing more strongly then the bhaktilata. Practically all of the Iskcon leaders are not uttama Vaisnavas but were involved in Vaisnava aparadha. Results are to be seen.
AKD: I just read this and I feel sick in my stomach. Are they not understanding the severity? Do they think this allegations are drawn from thin air? Years ago when harikesh left I had a debate with one of his staunch followers and I told him, he threw not only the grain but also the brain....
NH: Yikes. Downplay looks like being a saint, because he can't actually argue with the "slander" as its actually true. " just dont pay attention, nothing to see here, (insert sanskrit to sound like it makes sense) we'll take the highroad ( boost there ego) that way I can continue to wear these beautiful clothes!
SC: Unbelievable. They still don't get it.
SF: If the top echelons who were on the same location all these years don't rapidly start giving statements condemning the abuser; it might start looking very bad. People might start wondering what were the reasons to keep their base on the same location.
UDD: It's obvious from this statement that he is misleading his disciples and his influence is such that even his disciples show no remorse or compassion for the victims.
GS: Yes.
KK: Who has written it?
SDD: Thanks! I posted a couple of comments on her page.
Hope she's not completely blown away. This kind of thing can have devastating effects for disciples.
SF: I think maybe his quiet and neutral, playing-Switzerland Godbrothers should think about the following :In relatively recent civil war , some people ended up tried for crimes that they didn't personally commit. They were commanding officers according to them they :" didn't know what all of those soldiers doing when on terrain ".
But those soldier were under their command. Those soldiers were :raping ,keeping sexual slaves, maiming and killing civilians. And burning down properties and crops. (Something like what these saboteurs in high offices doing to Srila Prabhupada 's ISKCON ). The law actually says that it was the officers DUTY to know. So those officers who "were not well informed ", were declared war criminals too. Some of those "under - informed" were even caught and arrested when they mistakenly went to old regions.
We heard it all before. We know their playbook. One thing is fascinating- their synchronicity.
We heard it all before. We know their playbook. One thing is fascinating- their synchronicity.
M Dasi: Would you trust your kids with these good ole boys? I didn't think so. Neither would I trust them with caring for a dog. I don't even wish harm to a dog ... so that would never happen on my watch.
ReplyDeleteWhy does ISKCON promote these obviously corrupt and deviant men ... as the care takers of ISKCON's children? It is making ISKCON have a bad name. Or is that their intent in the first place? And they are causing a number of children to ... wish they were dead. And a number of them are dead. And no one is noticing that is a problem. It IS like a nightmare horror show.
Where is our stalwart staunch follower of Vedic laws Bhakti Vikas swami? Is he hiding behind that fat clown Jayapataka, his sannyasa guru. Or is he hiding behind Lokanath so he can say ... I did not hit you ... my stick did. The people who are making all this happen behind the scenes are more responsible than the people they push in front. They are the real puppet masters.
Your puppets are sick people ... because you puppet masters are even more sick. And this is the best deal Mayapur can get after spending millions of dollars. And this is the best advertising they can afford to purchase. It is like spending millions of dollars to make your product ... cursed and hated everywhere.
You bought the gold watch company ... which everyone loved ... to replace the gold with broken glass shards ... that hurts and cuts people ... why would you do that if you had any love for Krishna? They are now twisting the knife in the BVP followers with more twisted philosophical distortions ... and then they wonder why people go home and hang themselves.
DD: The whole situation (abuse), not only brings suffering (to the abused, but also to a much wider circle). Whilst it is good and right that the truth is finally surfacing, and rectifications are made, spare a thought and prayer for those disciples, who will now have to go through their own personal anguish.
ReplyDeleteAn example: "Could somebody, please, confirm that the document with CPO decision dated October 22nd 2022 is a fake? Some devotee on FB has just send it to me. Is it some kind of organized attack on maharaja & his followers?"
Hare Krishna
DV: The anguish is amplified by a complete lack of any official statement from ISKCON (aside from the CPO). This "radio silence" strategy might have been effective pre-internet, but in this age, it simply erodes all credibility, and is the complete opposite of community building or even damage control.
Full disclosure through official channels is far healthier than piecemeal in other ways. Where it happens, it is appreciated.
MMD: Oh heaven's no. Now the perp is the victim of a witch hunt. It is truly astonishing how the truth is so badly mangled and mis-managed by these people. And he will be banned ... really? They said that before and he was lurking and skulking around anyway.