Prabhupadanugas.eu vs PADA (Update)

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PADA: Thanks RKD for your question, why has PADA and Prabhupadanugas.eu not been working together more closely, and there seems to be some friction because some of the posters there are critical of PADA, or associates of PADA? 

OK first of all when Mathias took over the "Prabhupadanugas.eu" web site he was posting articles about the Zionist bankers / Hitler-anuga-ness and all that type thing, after Srila Prabhupada has said -- repeatedly -- we should not discuss these things. Then, someone said they were going to report his site to the Germany government, because there is a law against posting that stuff. 

Yep, like some guy with a teeny web site in Germany is going to take down "many centuries of banking control." Ummm, nope. A total waste of time for Vaishnavas. 

I agreed with that person, and thus Mathias said he wanted to come and punch me in the mouth. So he came across -- right at the start -- as basically another radical Hitler-anuga like Mukunda. OK so the GBC guys want to punch me in the head, and so does he. What is the difference to me who is punching me, the GBC guys or them, but both of them have no authority to punch any Vaishnavas.

He had to be forced to remove all his Zionist ranting off that site. So that was not off to a good start. Later on, I was watching Mathias debate with some Jewish lady, and she defeated him by saying -- he is more bodily identified than she is. Wow, he is more mundane than she is. Yep, it is a little silly and ignorant to start off the discussion with anyone "I AM my body." Ummm, nope that is called the
modes of ignorance all over the shastra. 

These people forget, we are spirit souls and not German Aryan Brotherhood members, or members of any mundane movement. The entire German Aryan Brotherhood will be a piece of dust in the dust bin of history in short order. No one on the planet will even know it ever existed, and thus we should not identify with these temporary programs. Yep, Mukunda UK (main Hitler-anuga) is also always yapping about their Aryan Brotherhood idea. This is a mundane identity. 

A common problem, there are still a lot of devotees who are proud of their bodily bags of stools heritage, because they are not yet free of the modes of ignorance. For example, the India ICC Bureau people are telling me that the reason I do not support their -- "worship of homosexuals and pedophiles in samadhi in the dham project" is -- I am a mleccha, and they are India bodies.  

Jeepers, thanks to God for that. I could have been one of them and wanted children to worship their "pedophiles in samadhi as God's successors project." Not kidding -- in samadhis no less! Why does the ICC support pedophiles in samadhi programs in the first place? They never explain, except they too are their bodies, another lump of ignorance identity. Yes, as a matter of fact I am my BODY. Fool's paradise.

Samadhi means to think of God eternally, and the ICC program supports that pedophiles are eternally thinking of God in samadhi. Huh? So that just means they are arrogant and ignorant to assume they are the superior thinkers. Even some mundane media person asked me "what is pedophile samadhi"? I dunno, ask the ISKCON ICC. 

Then the Mathias folks never apologized for that Zionist banker event, obviously they are just upset the German government is less bodily conscious than they are. When the government has to tell you what content is good and what is not, then what? 

I think there are some folks over there who still hold a grudge over that. In any case there are many citations from Srila Prabhupada that say -- Hitler is a bodily identified mundane man, and so forth, so we should not get behind whatever he has been doing. Its not for us to promote. 

Meanwhile Prabhupadanugas.eu friend Prahlad das said their Mukunda Hitler-anuga site is great "because it gets a lot of hits," but we get complaints about Prahlad's Hitler-anuga site all the time from every shade of Vaishnava sangha. Linking Krishna to Hitler is a bad idea -- and that is all there is to it. Even Sulochana said, we cannot get involved with these Zionist banker complaints, it will make us look stupid and mundane.

Then Prabhupadanugas.eu darling HKC Jaipur started advertising links to the same exact Mukunda Hitler-anuga site, openly advertising Mukunda's Hitler-anuga-ness. OK and when we complained, they just insulted me and so forth. None of them has ever explained -- why do they want Krishna linked to Hitler? They are just barf-ating according to one of our readers, and that is one of the kinder comments.  

Then! The Prahlad das (Paul Coats) / Dayalu Nitai HKC Jaipur thing came up. The Prahlad das / HKC folks made a video promoting "Saint Radhanath's" cheer leader and supporter Bhakta das. And then the Dayalu Nitai's HKC Jaipur folks began to advertise everyone to watch their Radhanath lover's club's video. And then Prabhupadanugas.eu site began to advertise HKC Jaipur all the more. knowing they have been promoting Radhanath's fan club's video. 

Wait? We are supposed to advertise the people who are promoting the pedophile's guru club's cheer leaders? Same thing, I complained and they just shot back insults. They still do not get it yet? Pedos are not messiahs, and we should not promote the apologists and advocates for that process either. Duh! 

When will all these people get it -- in and around ISKCON -- not only them? Who knows, but my 85 year old cat lady neighbor already knows, we should not promote advocates for pedophile messiah's projects. She is way out of the ball park more advanced than all of them combined evidently, but we face this same problem all the time with all sorts of "Krishna devotees," not only them. They are just part of the pack of barking folks chasing PADA everywhere. Yikes! 

The HKC et al. also advertised the writings of Bhavananda's bucket boy Hari Sauri -- attacking me and Sulochana as sahajiyas. Sulochana said these writings would get him killed, and they did get him killed. So the Prahlad das / HKC Jaipur guys are glorifying the writings of people who -- get Vaishnavas assassinated. Why? We love and promote the people who get Vaishnavas killed. OK, but makes you one of them. 

Sulochana said these writings are placing a bull's eye on my back, and the HKC and Prabhupadanugas.eu people are -- boosting more viewers to that material? Why do they want to place bull's eyes on the backs of any Vaishnavas? No answer. OK well if they don't answer it looks like, they are in bed with the molester messiahs and their promoters, and worse, the violent attackers of me and Sulochana. Or what? I told them repeatedly, we should not advertise the writings of the people who got Sulochana assassinated, and -- no reply. 

So HKC Jaipur people began citing Hari Sauri's writings and having people read his works. Read: the people who oppose PADA (and help murder our folks) when we are trying to save children from worshiping pedophiles, are the people we cite as our HKC Jaipur / Prabhupadanugas.eu authority. Why are they glorifying the writings of the people who get Vaishnavas assassinated. 

Unless, they agree with them? They never explain any of this. Of course who authorizes them to place a bull's eye on anyone's back, even a dog's. They have no authority to aggress upon ANY other beings, what to speak of Vaishnavas, even us dog Vaishnavas.  

They claim Sulochana is their saint, therefore they promote the writings of the people who help kill him, and who would also kill his associates. Hari Sauri writings should not be cited as our authority in any case, and apart from these guys, no other Prabhupadanugas are citing Bhavananda's bucket boys as their authority. OK. It is just these guys who think Bhavananda's chief defenders are their authorities, and everyone should read from them. Why? Who knows! 

Bhavananda is having oral sex with taxi drivers in the dham, while claiming to be Vishnupada, therefore, lets have HKC Jaipur / Prabhupadanugas.eu people cite Bhavananda's program's chief writer / defender / hand maiden as their authority. OK did they not get the memo? Pedos are not messiahs, and their cheer leaders / writers should not be cited by us! 

The Prabhupadanuga.eu / HKC ilk also advertised the writings of Sanat, who said the molested children of ISKCON need to be killed, chopped up and fed to dogs. OK so victims are committing suicide and we should advertise that we want to chop them up? Why do that? No explanation ever given. Attacking people who are already suicidal is not to be done, by anyone, and this is common knowledge by moral people everywhere. If the HKC Jaipur folks see a suicidal person about jump off the bridge, they'll yell "jump." Who does that?

And Sanat (Steve Voith) is one of the people who told me he knew about the molesting all along from his wife's teaching at the SDG school, and he did not report it to anyone, even the other parents. He covered it up to save his favorite GBC's gurus -- like Satsvarupa, his guru at the time. And that is why people ask me, why is the Prabhupadanugas.eu site in bed with this group? People in our group covered up the molesting, to defend the GBC's gurus, ok like SDG. Why should the criminal molester cover up folks be given any credit and be cited as our authority, or anyone's authority? 

Shouldn't they be promoting the people who expose molesting (like PADA) and not the people who cover it up? So members of their team helped the molesting by covering it up, and then they want to chop up their own victims. Your team covered it up, your team caused the molesting problem, now your team wants your own victims have to be punished. And dead. And the cover up people are the heros, and we need to get rid of PADA. Why? No explanation. 

Did I forget to mention that covering up child abuse is a crime in the "karmi world"? That would make them combined criminals for supporting the cover up folks like Sanat. Then Prahlad said I was making offenses to Sanat, ummm, because I do not think we should remain silent and not report child abuses, to save Satsvarupa and the GBC from criminal negligence charges. It is offensive to report child molesting, and it is wonderful to protect child molesting by silent acquiescing. Wrong answer! 

How is their plan working out for you molester cover uppers? I am offensive, for exposing molesting, but the people who cover it up are the good guys. OK that is how you guys created the existing molesting regimes. Sanat was part of that regime, and you guys defending him means you are defending the regime and its hand maidens / cover ups. 

Sorry, we had to sue the Sanat cover up program for $400,000,000 because his cover up plan is harming children, even taking their lives. Moreover your saint Sulochana said you guys are tossing children into a wood chipper -- by working with the regime, and promoting its defenders like Bhakta das, Hari Sauri etc. Promoting the defenders of the regime -- and the cover ups for the regime -- is helping -- the regime. OK no answer from them, ever. 

So they have been promoting Saint Radhanath's cheer leaders, Bhavananda's bucket boys, and people like Sanat who criminally cover up child abuse. Why? No answer. As Sulochana said, a lot of these spiritual babies cannot disconnect their umbilical cords connected to the molester guru's regime. Why are they still doing that? I dunno.  

Then, the Prabhupadanugas.eu site began to promote all the more Prahlad das (Paul Coats) complaints against me etc. Then Prahlad said he wanted to have PADA removed from the internet, but his pedophile guru program's defender's videos / Bhavananda's fan club writers / pedophile cover ups get to stay. Umm, the molester guru's program folks get to stay and we have to leave? Why are they in favor of having the pedophile guru program's supporters on the internet, and not us? 

Oh yeah, the GBC also wants PADA removed from the internet. Like minds think alike! Isn't that how these thinkers caused thousands of kids to be molested from square one, by covering up crimes and removing people who complain about their crimes against children operation? They glorify the Radhanath defenders / Bhavananda defenders, which is still victimizing victims now. The VICTIMS are still upset to see defense of the abuse regime now. Their saint Radhanath program buried a pedophile in the dham, and that is why their defenders get to stay and we have to be removed. Why? No reply.

Then Prahlad said he is going to get me killed by posting my photo on his site and alerting the GBC goondas to come get me, and he did post my photo etc. So now they wanted to help get me killed, all because I am not with their "Saint Radhanath" / Bhavananada lovers / chopping up children / covering up child molesting process. OK exactly same reason the GBC wants to get me. 

And why are they working with the GBC's goondas to have me killed behind the scenes, at all? They openly admit they are working hand in glove with the pedophile messiah's goondas, to kill the Prabhupadanugas, and the leaders of that group such as HKC Jaipur and their thug Prahlad are advertised there. Why? No one knows!

Yep, the deviants are the keepers and PADA has to go! 

Then the BBT problem came up and the Prabhupadanugas.eu sided with promoting the changed books of Jitarati, who is using the books that Srila Prabhupada specifically complains about having unauthorized changes. 

And they wrote horrible things about those of us who want original books. OK so now they are also in favor of changing the books. Again, not popular with the regular Prabhupadanugas. We want original books. Again, same thing, they take the side of the GBC book changers like Jayadvaita. Why? No answer. Did I forget to mention that Jayadvaita is good pals with Bhakti Vidya Purna swami, and we should not take his "evidence" as evidence. 

Do they ever even ask us, what is an original book and what is not? Nope. Never. Srila Prabhupada said -- these edits are not good and we should therefore print the originals, which means not the changed items. So they never consult with the people who are aware of these issues for starters. Jitarati made a compromise with the GBC / BBTI to print pre-1977 books, but unauthorized edits were already going on at that time. And thus the ACTUAL originals means -- not the ones being edited at that time which Srila Prabhupada COMPLAINS ABOUT. 

Meanwhile, when I came out with the poison issue the Sanat and Mukunda guys wrote constantly that PADA is a madman liar, so they could defend their favorite poisoners of pure devotees. Anyone who says Prabhupada is complaining of poison is a madman liar. OK so they wanted to discredit Srila Prabhupada's complaint. Why are they in bed with the poisoners of pure devotees? The good news is, most people agreed with me anyway, this is a bona fide complaint and it is not some foolish madman and liars presenting it. Entire books have been made on the poison issue proving over and over and over, it is NOT madness. After that most of the IRM people left and joined PADA to promote the poison case. 

Then they started to promote the IRM's complaints about the child molesting case, after the IRM folks told me that the suicides of victims is "not that big of a problem." Yep, there is NOT TOO MUCH dead children's blood on our hands here, what is the problem? OK but who authorizes them to have any child's blood on their hands, even one drop, never mind "not too much." No answer. 

We are only having a few dead bodies on the bumper of our car after we sped through the crowd, what is the problem officer. Hee hee! Really?, that is their best argument. Why? They do not realize they have no authority to have one drop of anyone's blood on their jackboots, never mind "not too much." Why does the HKC Jaipur / Prabhupadanugas.eu cite the people who say, "there are not too many dead bodies hanging off our vehicle -- after we drove through the crowd"? 

Answer? Nope. Sorry they have no authority to block a person who is trying to save the lives of others, especially when the victims are caused by their own advertised pals remaining silent and covering it up. Their team helped cause these deaths by their silence and cover up, and then they tried to block the people saving their own victims. Why? As one lady said here recently, if we cover up for the demons, we become the demons. We are the same as them. 

Then they started saying that Puranjan does not chant his rounds and he is a sahajiya, because he is not helping them promote their pedophile guru club lover's videos / Bhavananda lover's club's books etc. Wow, so only the bogus gopis know that anal sex epidemic guru programs are bogus, the sincere chanters promote worship of anal sex epidemic guru programs and / or its cheerleaders? Why are they saying the pedophile sex guru cult program defenders are the sincere chanters, and those who oppose are "not chanting their rounds." That is giving the chanting a bad advert.  

Meanwhile Bhakta Peter is still angry at PADA for "making up lies about Prahlad das (Paul Coats)." But this is what the molester messiah folks say all day long, PADA is a liar, and that simply covers up more and more and more of their  molesting agenda. They are simply parrots of the pedophiles, PADA is a liar. Why are they always saying exactly what the pedophiles are saying? No reply. Peter is upset that I am offending Sanat, the molesting cover up guy in their group.

HKC Jaipur's / Bhakta Peter's / Prahlad's pal Kamsahanta told me I should NOT sue the GBC over the book changes, NOT sue over the molesting issue, NOT bring forward the poison issue. He said we will lose "our buildings." 

OK so the Kamsahanta crew identifies as a member of the pedophile guru's association, because the pedophile messiah's buildings are also theirs. Why are the buildings where pedophiles are being worshiped "our buildings"? 

Kamsahanta also said to me he had worked out a deal with Jayapataka -- to send me on vacation in the Caribbean. And he told me to be quiet so he could transform ISKCON into a ritvik program "within six months." Silencing PADA was part of the Jayapataka deal. OK, but surely I would have been disappeared forever if I had gone to the Caribbean. Nice place to make a person disappear! Thanks pal! Even my friends said, you'll be dead if you take up that offer, you will disappear there, and probably die a horrific death. 

Kamsahanta also told me -- the IRM is going to fix the changed books issue, and ritvik issue in six months, ok this was never going to happen by them in six centuries. Meanwhile, kids who have been molested are committing suicide. And Kamsahanta said PADA should NOT help these victims -- to save his pedophile messiah's program's "buildings"? We have to toss children into a wood chipper to save -- bricks and stones? 

Why do people always have to die to save these guy's brick and stones? Meanwhile Kamsahanta is not even welcome in "his buildings." This is total illusion, these buildings are not his or "ours," we are not welcome. Sorry! A building where pedophiles are worshiped are not "my buildings."

And Kamsahanta tried to physically restrain me when I went out to announce the poison issue. Why does he want to save his favorite Judas sabha? And kids should commit suicide, all to save "our buildings" -- and our glorious pedophile worshiping process, and save the poisoners sabha. Why? And there is no need to get the rights to original books, PADA should not help the BBTI lawsuit, because, why? They never explain their agenda? 

Thus, why are Bhakta Peter / Prahlad das defending the defenders of the pedophile messiah's program? And where is the proof none of this ever happened, when we have had our associates who were there at the time -- and they remember all this happening. So they opposed me getting the rights to original books by suing the BBTI, then they began to promote the changed books. How is that different that the GBC agenda? 

To sum, pedophile worshiping in certain buildings are "Prahlad's buildings" -- according to Prahlad's program itself. We repeated what they said, and it is a fact. After making all their big IRM hoopla that Kamsahanta is going to save ISKCON in six months, he then disappeared and rode off into the sunset. 

Maybe he was in Jaipur hanging out -- but we have not heard about anything substantial going on ever since. Then Kamsahanta said I was the worst thing ever for ISKCON, because I saved his society's kids from killing themselves. And we got hundreds of kids yanked out of his pedophile "guru schools". Yep, stopping Kamsahanta from tossing Krishna's kids into a wood chipper is "the worst thing ever."  

Pancali's husband said that if Prahlad succeeds in getting me killed, so what, it is Krishna's will, he needs to get a new body anyway. When we threatened to report him to the New Zealand police, his comments disappeared. There you have it, anyone who does not promote their sex with kids guru's process "needs to get a new body." Ramesvara allegedly said Sulochana needs to get a new body. They think like Ramesvara, talk like Ramesvara, act like Ramesvara, and they claim they are Prabhupada's faithful? 

Notice, the Prahlad people think that killing people who oppose their homosexual pedophile guru process fan club can be killed because "it is all God's will." God wanted you guys to defend a pedophile's guru worship process, with murder threats? Here is what MANY people (includes police and media) ask me, "What makes them any different from Kirtanananda's program"? 

In any case, their complaints are basically the same as the GBC folks. When I showed my police friends the messages I was getting from Prahlad, threatening to get me assassinated, the police guy said -- these people are just part of the whole child molester cult you are fighting. They hate you and they want you dead, because it is obvious -- they are ALL pedophile lovers, and it is the same in every pedophile cult, they attack the whistleblowers.

Yup. It is always the same arguments. We wanted to point out that these are the same arguments we get all the time from everywhere, GBC people, and people claiming to be against them, but who are secretly compromised, or sometimes not even secretly. 

So I am always willing to discuss and address these points, and hopefully resolve them, but I am not able to re-write history and I want to make sure it is clear. I welcome any comments on this topic which might help us bridge these gaps and get us more into the same page. 

Meanwhile, PADA is making progress in any event. And no, I don't hold any grudges, my life has been a fun adventure and I am very grateful to have Krishna allow me to have it. More and more people are coming out of the woodwork every day to help me expose the molester messiahs project. Thus the trickle is turning into a flood. And all of them are 100 percent in agreement with our complaints about the molesting. That mean Krishna is inspiring them to come out, and that means we were right the whole time, its just taken time for it to manifest. 

ys pd

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