PADA: Jadurani is now an official sin absorbing Jesus. According to -- Jadurani. It is amazing how the followers of Narayan Maharaja first of all endorsed the GBC's illicit sex with men, women and children messiah's project, which has been banning, beating, molesting, suing and assassinating Vaishnavas, but then a number of them went on to declare themselves as the next messiahs of the jagat.
PADA has many times mentioned how we conditioned souls cannot absorb the sins of other conditioned souls, so we won't beat that bush excessively again. Suffice it to say, Srila Prabhupada said anyone to takes sins without authority has to go to the lower regions to absolve those sins.
Of course this is also going to create a big huge argument over whether women can be gurus. Already the NM people are fighting because Prem Prayojana (a householder) became a guru and the sannyasas in his group objected. This is going to put a lot of pressure on the GBC to start endorsing more women since now the NM group will be competing with them.
Overall I'd say it is another disaster. She is a conditioned soul, she cannot absorb sins, and she will have to pay a big price for over stepping that etiquette. At the same time since NM has been one of the biggest cheer leaders of Tamal's pedophile messiah's club, they are all going to get a severe reaction for that as well.
I feel bad for these people, they are already sinking in an ocean of their own sins for helping Tamal promote his pedophile worship process, and they are promoting NM who has been the biggest cheer leading hand maiden of Tamal's pedophile worship process. And now they become gurus in the same lineage that contains those deviants, pedophiles and their cheer leaders. Not helping themselves, or anyone else.
ys pd angel108b@yahoo.com
With a humble heart and focused gaze
Without any pride and a sense of malaise
With a sincere desire to serve her Gurudeva
Srimati Syamarani Didi has paved the way
Without any pride and a sense of malaise
With a sincere desire to serve her Gurudeva
Srimati Syamarani Didi has paved the way
[PADA: That is what NM people said when they were endorsing Tamal's homosexual and pedophile messiahs club, we are paving the way! To where?]
Accepting disciples after decades of wait
No rush or hurry when you're never late
Timing is perfect in the eternal space
Srimati Syamarani Didi finally has caved!
Timing is perfect in the eternal space
Srimati Syamarani Didi finally has caved!
She told me that this day would never come
"How can I give Bhakti when I have none?"
"How can I give Bhakti when I have none?"
Her humility was paramount from day one
Srimati Syamarani Didi's next phase has begun...
Srimati Syamarani Didi's next phase has begun...
So will you stand on the side lines or rush into action?
What type of life are you leading with no satisfaction?
What type of life are you leading with no satisfaction?
Serving all the Vaishnavs gives spiritual reactions
And the material factions melt into one mercurial expansion
And the material factions melt into one mercurial expansion
[PADA: Well yes, no one can argue with that. Srimate Syamarani's program of supporting pedophiles as messiahs created a mercurial expansion of her child molesting, beating and suicides of children project, and that is why some of her victims are going home to hang themselves etc.]
For love is flowing freely from those who don't hate
[PADA: True. NM refused to meet me, and after that he went over to hug Kirtanananda. As soon as they find a person who worships a pure devotee, ok like us, they do not like that person and avoid him, but if they see a nice homosexual pedophile who is having oral sex with young males in his motorhome, they fall off their chairs and help promote worship of that deviant.]
Didi's heart is unencumbered by the anarthas we face
She has established herself clearly as unquestionably great
Her qualification to save souls is undeniably fate
She has established herself clearly as unquestionably great
Her qualification to save souls is undeniably fate
Yet this day comes well past the desires of so many
"This should have happened years ago!" I've heard aplenty
"This should have happened years ago!" I've heard aplenty
But think of the boys and girls who weren't ready?
That have become so because Didi's been so steady
That have become so because Didi's been so steady
Consistency is key when it comes to endeavor
No results come when you're flimsy like a feather
No results come when you're flimsy like a feather
Didi's rooting in her Guru's words as her only pleasure
And thus there's a safeness that's felt in her shelter
Nobody could prepare me for the phone call that day
And thus there's a safeness that's felt in her shelter
Nobody could prepare me for the phone call that day
A voice message actually - something throwaway
"I've decided to do that thing" her message did say
"What thing?" My mind couldn't understand that phrase
"I've decided to do that thing" her message did say
"What thing?" My mind couldn't understand that phrase
Does she mean to tell me after our discussion in depth
Her insistence on never, ever, ever taking this step
Has reversed completely all in the space of a breath?
I must be in illusion or soon to be facing death
After some gathered composure and a few deep breaths
Her insistence on never, ever, ever taking this step
Has reversed completely all in the space of a breath?
After some gathered composure and a few deep breaths
I talked with her further to discuss the next steps
She insisted this is a farce that she's resigned to accept
She insisted this is a farce that she's resigned to accept
All because she's been instructed and she thinks I'd forget
I insisted one year ago that she initiate many
I insisted one year ago that she initiate many
Her sadhana example was already so steady
But she rebutted my plea with a strong dismissal
But she rebutted my plea with a strong dismissal
"I've yet to talk to Gurudeva and Prabhupada about this" for example
In due course that discussion magically occurred
In due course that discussion magically occurred
Beyond my vision she spoke to our Guru-varga and conferred
[PADA: Oh oh, the NM pedophile messiah lover's varga is behind this?]
With a witty voice message she sought to disturb
"They said absolutely you can initiate...when your character matches the words:
Nikuñja-yūno rati-keli-siddhyai yā yālibhir yuktir apekṣaṇīyā
[PADA: OK so homosexual pedophiles are nikunja yuno, and so is she?]
I couldn't fathom that she'd set me up for something so high
Undeterred the thought came rapidly with what I can say
And so I told her "So you can do it now then!" I prayed
Somehow I find that my life's sheltered without pause
Somehow I find that my life's sheltered without pause
All suffering I experience can be sourced to one cause
My desire to enjoy selfishly without any break
Has led to a life rife with mistake after mistake
Didi has given me a new purpose during her stay
Didi has given me a new purpose during her stay
A friend, a mentor, a guide on this winding pathway
"Life is what you make of it" - is what my mind thinks
"Life is what you make of it" - is what my mind thinks
"Solve your million dollar problem" is what she reminds me
Accepting disciples is actually not anything bold
She's already an inspiration to uncountable souls
Political maneuverings can seep in when you're open
She's already an inspiration to uncountable souls
Political maneuverings can seep in when you're open
But the informal truth is that my heart is quite stolen
So initiations or not, she's already fulfilling her role
Serving Gurudeva & Prabhupada is her life & soul
So initiations or not, she's already fulfilling her role
Serving Gurudeva & Prabhupada is her life & soul
[PADA: Yep, Jadurani's program of promoting pedophiles as messiahs is very inspiring, it inspires her child victims to take their lives.]
The Tamal Guru Sampradaya (which was being given rasika classes by NM).
Q: Srila Bhaktivedanta Swami Prabhupada says the guru takes the disciple's sins, papa.
A: Srila Narayana Maharaj: Never. The bona fide guru is qualified. He is like fire. He will burn everything away. Why will he take it himself? He will not take the fruits from the disciple's karma. Never will he take them. He will at once, by his mercy, quickly burn all. Not, there is nothing to be confused about. But, if the guru is not qualified, if he is not tattva-jnani, or if he is a kanistha-adhikari, then he will take all the sins. A madhyama-adhikari who is at the level of madhyama-uttama, oh, he will burn everything.
[PD: And Srila Prabhupada says a Madhyama cannot be a diksha guru because he might once again become a demon. He cannot absorb the sins of others. And furthermore, anyone who is not an uttama does not have the brahmana tejyas to burn off sins, Srila Prabhupada is very clear on this. No, a kanistha or madhyama is not like fire, he cannot burn off the sins of -- his own -- never mind burn off the sins of others. That is why Nectar of Instruction says, one must only accept an uttama as his guru. There is no sin burning fire in any other category. Almost all the neophyte GBC people who took sins under Narayan Maharaja's idea and policy suffered by falling down, getting sick, and dying. Never mind their followers are not being liberated.
Srila Prabhupada told us many, many times, if we allow people to touch our feet we will be acting like diksha gurus, taking sins. That will make us get sick, fall down or both. Of course many of them died. He said, only a pure devotee has the brahmana tejyas to burn off sins, and if you neophytes take sins "you will have to suffer" and they are suffering. So yes, this question was answered many times, none of you neophytes should attempt to take other's sins, but they neglected that instruction.
That is ALSO why Srila Prabhupada told the story of the snake and the ants. The false guru told the disciples he could take their sins, but he could not. So the disciples went to Yamaraja and they were very angry, and they wanted to take revenge. So Yamaraja made them ants, and made their guru a snake, and the snake went over the ant hill, and he was eaten alive by the ants. In other words, it does not matter if this karma is not resolved now, it will be eventually.
And! When we were in India, Srila Prabhupada stopped the whole kirtan when he saw two of his lady disciples having their feet touched by the old ladies at the pandal program. He told them, "I told you -- do not let people touch your feet, you will be taking their karma and you will have to suffer." None of you neophytes should attempt to take others sins, but they neglected that instruction. No idea why the ladies "gurus" would be able to be diksha gurus and take karma -- when the men who do so are suffering many reactions. ys pd
M Dasi: This always makes me wonder ... did they promote all these false gurus so they could later come out as the savior. Like the fireman who starts houses on fire so he can be the hero of the story. They never explain why they made all these bogus other people into gurus in the first place.
ReplyDeleteOne Narayan person told me ... he did not know about all the molesting. How does he not know? He is in Texas with Tamal ... they are being sued in Texas. He knew more than anyone else knew. Or what is the explanation.
Then they go visit Kirtanananda ... and they did not know he is a pedophile, involved in murders, by then? How is that possible, they do not know?
JJ: You mean to say ... the same guru varga that certified Tamal Krishna's pedophile guru varga has also certified her? I remember when Tamal used to lecture ... "my two favorite people in the world are Srila Bhavananda Vishnupada and Srila Narayan Maharaja."
ReplyDeleteMy two favorite people are pedophile acharyas ... and the supporters of pedophile acharyas? And Jadurani now has their blessings. Does she not realize that having their blessings is a curse.
She will not be able to take sins any more than all of the rest of them have done. This is cheating. They have supported cheaters and now they have become the same thing.
How many children suffered horribly and badly under the Tamal Krishna and Bhavananda guru varga ... while they were being encouraged and propped by Narayan Maharaj. These people don't care who suffers or how much. They just want some cheap adoration and title for themselves to collect donations. It is a business. The Tamal Krishna guru varga's high priest is Narayan Maharaj ... who has no authority to annoint anyone else as guru.
She has fallen into the bogus guru varga rabbit hole. Generally ... after falling there ... no one ever comes back out.
Mamma Bear: Right away there is a problem. They say she initiated some men. And that has created opposition in the Narayan swami camp.
ReplyDeleteThey thought the agreement was ... she was only to initiate other women. I also think it is stupid Jadurani thinks she can take karma from some very sinful KALI YUGA men ... whose karma is who knows what ... and she is so pure she can burn it off.
She is not going to burn it off here ... maybe she will burn it off sometime ... on a lower planet. This is the result of Gaudiya Matha ... everyone becomes guru when they are not even kanisthas.
I am afraid of bad karma from just having my own offspring. Nuff there! Or even too much there ... already. She has no idea what karma is and how it is to be remedied in the material world.
She is not taking their karma fully ... she is not burning their karma fully ... and we all see what happens from taking karma ... even partial ... these gurus turn into arrogant a*s hat clowns ... or worse. Look at the state of their guru varg if you want proof of why you should not jump like monkeys into the captain's chair. You are not the captain.
One of their gurus was living in a big place with two women ... dressed in saffron. When someone asked the guru about this ... he wanted to punch them in the mouth. Now she is in that guru varg too. Impressive!
LW: Not much will ever come of this. Gaudiya Matha ... big guru with a few disciples ... no real preaching programs. Or they are hunkered down in India. None of this fixes the real problems ... the samkirtana movement has been gutted.
ReplyDeleteShe is simply going to have another splinter group to add to the two thousands of other splinter groups. At the same time ... even a small program is not good if it misleads others. We should not be misleading even one person. It is a spiritual crime.
Narayan Maharaj program is already down in most of the West anyway. His preaching idea is not ready for prime time. They can only scoop up a few remnants from ISKCON ... it is not really dynamic and never was. Hanging onto the GBC's apron strings has never been a potent preaching idea. Now she is another guru like the GBC. She is their sock puppet.