SN: Yes .. now Lokanath should be banned in India.
HS: Wouldn’t that be racist? Why in that particular country?
SD: Do you have anything to add to the discussion or are you just trolling?
PW: Yes please ban all pedophiles and murderers in ISKCON starting with Lokanath. Yes Lokanath had me beaten and threatened to kill my guru who passed away 2 weeks later on my birthday in 96.
AD: You are the biggest troll in iskcon !! No one can match you. Because Mleccha can never learn Vedic culture.
PW: Just so you are aware SD was born into a Vaishnava family who are Prabhupada's personal spiritual family he created. She works tirelessly to ensure that family are free from being raped by false Guru who rape and torture devotee children regardless what country they are born in or the colour of their skin. Your posts simply highlight the degradation of spiritual understanding of shastra and Sidhanta and no real compassion or kindness towards Vaishnava just threats and intimidation.
SD: Thanks honey. It's okay. Every time AD writes a comment he refreshes this post in the News Feed letting more people know that child molester Lokanath is banned in North America and Europe.
PW: Also shows the racist behaviour of pedophile worshipers that judge devotees based on the colour of their skin and the place of their birth.
BS: "Mleccha can never learn Vedic culture." What a joke. Ignorant followers of GBC and Lokanath.
AD: DD your forefathers must be Darwin’s children … monkeys … you must definitely be part of the racist woke European descent who killed millions of brown Hindus . And the irony is that you are now a Hindu …. Vatican must have not been pleased with your stupid a#%^. You are the pedophile’s child.
You need to stay in your abrahamic asura land and worship the imaginary Gods mentioned in Bible … you are not fit to be a Hindu . We love Modi … if you hate Modi so much then why you go to Vrindavan and why iskcon begs to get his support !! Go back to your abrahamic roots - you are a mleccha and Yavana and also an asura . You should thank me for not calling you an animal.
You are born in a mleccha family and a born asura. Don’t worry as Prabhupada said you might be born again in india in future …. Fo back to your imaginary Gods of Abrahamism cults.
What do you know about hell. Did your asura mleccha father come from there. Your birth is in a mleccha family which is condemned. Your birth is in a mleccha family and a Yavana family . That birth is itself condemned …
You are a mleccha because your family has not taught you anything … you can never be a Vaishnava because you have those genes. You are already condemned to have taken birth in a mleccha family … you can never become a vaishnava.
PADA: Wow. First, Lokanath co-creates an industrial level factory of child abuse program in ISKCON. Then his mass molesting program has to be sued by "the Dallas mleccha courts" for $400,000,000.
Then his folks say -- we Westerners are not advanced, because we Western folks do not worship his program of industrial factory levels of child abuse regime. This is not an India vs Western issue, Lokanath's industrial level factory child abuse program is sinful, and it is sinful everywhere. The mleccha courts know child abuse is wrong, Lokanath does not?
But yes, as a matter of fact the mlecchas know what is right and what is wrong on the issue of child abuse -- and Lokanath evidently does not. Lokanath still thinks his anal sex epidemic guru process is bona fide. That is the question we even get from media people, "Why did the Dallas ('mleccha courts') folks have to sue Lokanath's program for $400,000,000, for mass children abuse, and why does he not know his child abuse guru process is sinful."
His people don't have to answer that -- because they have brown India born skin. Sounds like racist hogwash. In sum it is LOKANATH SWAMI who should be shutting down his mass child abuse program, not the Dallas courts.
Is this because Lokanath is another child abuser himself? In any case he is less advanced than the average mleccha, who opposes child abusers. So a child abuser like Lokanath will naturally attack the "Western mleccha courts" when they oppose his industrial level factory child abuse program. And then his program hides behind the argument, the Dallas mleccha courts are bogus -- because they decided Lokanath's industrial level factory of child abuse program is bogus.
As soon as someone inquires about the Lokanath program of mass molesting children on industrial factory scale, he is upset, evidently because he is among the group of molesters. He identifies with the other child abusers, because he is one of them, and that is why he aids, abets and protects them. But he can only pull those nasty tricks in India, not here, the courts will go after his idiot molester pooja over here.
So he resents the Western culture because there is no tolerance for child abusers and / or mass abuse programs created by himself. OK what does any of this have to do with brown skin, mleccha birth or anything else?
Lokanath's industrial level factory of child abuse program is obnoxious, and it is obnoxious in Western culture, Eastern culture or even animal culture. Race baiting is avoiding the question. In the mleccha culture, the child abusers have to be placed in solitary in jail, or they will be attacked. But as soon as Lokanath sees a child molester, he wants to place that molester in a samadhi in the dham. In other words, the lowest people in mleccha jail culture -- are Lokanath's idea of God's samadhi in the dham successors.
BSD: Understanding is not part of your resume apparently.
AD: What is your proof ? You are tracking a brown skinned sannyasi on an agenda by your mleccha family gurus. Lokanath Swami is a great soul. You mleccha cannot criticize him without any proof … just because he is not speaking … go back to pope who eats cows …
PADA: But Lokanath's "India shastra" program is recognized as an industrial level factory of child abuse by many people, including the Dallas courts. Why is it -- only the people who eat cows also do not approve of Lokanath's mass child molesting program. Why is Lokanath not leading the mlecchas, rather they have to chastise and sue his project.
Why would we say that mass child abuse is fine, because only the people who eat cows oppose mass child abuse. That makes no sense. The people who eat cows do not approve of Lokanath's industrial level factory of child abuse program, but the people who do approve of his mass child abuse program -- are following India's VEDIC culture. What! Even Bhakti Vikas swami's people tell me that too, we are following the VEDIC tradition --- of industrial level factory child abuse. What?
So the great acharyas of Vedic culture -- and India -- are often drunkards and pedophiles, because they are in the line of Krishna's successors. Sounds to me like Lokanath hates Krishna and India culture.
Who would want to establish that the successors to God are often pedophiles and drunks, unless they hate God. God is a deviant, therefore His successors are shaksat hari also deviants. That is what Lokanath people are trying to establish, and Adikarta even says they have been promoting their pedophile pooja idea for 45 years.
We should forgive an abominable acharya. OK so acharyas are abominable because Krishna is abominable, and abominable people are God's shaksat hari successor agents. That means God is the same / shashat as abominable. Why does Lokanath think God is abominable.
Why does Lokanath wake up every day and try to add another deviation to Krishna's line of acharyas. Lokanath program has already made -- porno acharyas, condom acharyas, Vodka acharyas, machine gun acharyas, illicit sex with men, women and children acharyas, and he is very sad. There are not enough deviations going on with his acharyas, he wants to add some more! But Srila Prabhupada says -- anyone who insults the acharyas dwells always in hell. And so will their followers.
AD: You are doing it … you are attacking brown skinned gurus because you are a mleccha. You are condemned to not even enter many vaishnava temples … your birth itself.
BSD: “Well…., uhhh…. it doesn’t have to make sense.” - your defense. I am sorry that you have such anger. And i don’t know where it’s coming from, but i’m pretty sure that now, like the last time our paths crossed, you again are very mad about something. it seems there’s a lot of things you don’t understand. a lot of improper foundations in your thinking - and your accusations. but that is good in the sense that if you choose to confront them you will experience a better life. right now i see a lot of anger. and it is obviously not a type of justified anger.
PADA: Only brown skinned India Vedic scholars worship illicit sex with men, women and children acharyas, and worship pedophile acharyas in samadhi, and create industrial level factory child abuse programs of anal reconstruction surgery epidemics. And that is an advertisement for India's Vedic culture?
Are you guys smoking crack? How many people think Lokanath's industrial level factory of child abuse programs are a good advertisement for their religion and culture? You are giving India and Krishna A BAD NAME, and for 45 years according to yourselves!
PW: Yes my father is J dasa, who is another well known pedophile covered up by ISKCON authority for years in India.
PADA: Covering up pedophiles in India. Hmmm, and Lokanath is a big leader there.
BSD: I do think you are wrong when you say mlecchas will never become vaishnavas. That contradicts Prabhupada’s whole idea of preaching to the world. And sbssm’s idea. You accuse us using the term “european descent.” Reply is no bruh, we be african descent. like you bruh. carry on with sorting out anger issues.
I mean european ancestry, we should ban them. or better yet, if they have any african ancestry we’ll ban them suckers immediately!
AD: She is a mleccha. Asuras are born in mleccha family because her actions are like mleccha. Prabhupada would also reject her because she has maligned his intimate disciple. You guys don’t understand anything about dharma. All mleccha need to be thrown out of Prabhupada’s movement because they bring their low mindset everywhere.
Mlecchas like you spread disinformation. Loknath maharaja will always come to North America outside of iskcon because mleccha like you don’t need Vedic gurus. You need cow eaters and pedophiles from vaticans to further push you in hell. Already your current birth of mleccha is condemned. You are apes.
PADA: OK but apes do not worship pedophiles? So that means we apes are more advanced than Lokanath.
UB: Don’t talk like that Prabhu. Why then did Srila Prabhupada go to the west and why would Bhaktisiddhanta Saraswati Thakur instruct him to? You know better than them? They wanted to make the mlecchas into devotees, shame on you for attacking their idea.
AD: You are a mleccha and people like you are a disgrace. Prabhupada accepted mlecchas but still you should learn yo accept your birth in mleccha. You need to stop commiting aparadh against HH Loknath Swami by mlecchas.
NB: Pardon my ignorance, but what exactly do you think qualifies someone as a mleccha? That they were born outside of India? That they are light-skinned? As far as I can see, both of those descriptions are pretty nationalistic and racist. Yet you condemn that sort of external bodily prejudice in your original comment. If the person you're defending isn't really Indian or brown-skinned, then don't worry, you've got plenty of other self-professed maha-bhagavat abusers you can defend. Good luck with that.
SS: ISKCON needs a Reformation, this is clear.
BSD: Or we might go with the approach that every day i wake up, and realizing what an idiot i’ve been, commit myself to reforming daily.
SS: Yes exactly, ISKCON Reformation is occurring in any case. Outside the walls but still reforming.
AD: Asura children of pedophiles like you must be banned to visit any temple of iskcon in India or for that matter any Hindu temple …
SS: Why be so mean? It is immature and not very spiritual, for that matter.
AD: Do you support maligning of a sannyasi like His Holiness Loknath Swami by a fake propagandist on behalf of Vatican . She hasn’t said anything against a child and cow eater pope.
PADA: The "cow eater" Pope is at least not telling children to worship pedophiles as the guru of the religion, rather Jesus is their guru. And Prabhupada said we should not insult the worship of Jesus in any case. Why is the Lokanath program attacking Jesus? I know, the bogus Christian ritviks are not worshiping Lokanath's child molester messiah's program. Srila Prabhupada says, me and Jesus are brothers, he never said Jesus is the bogus leader of the bogus ritviks.
NB: I'm so confused. Are you saying that SD has to condemn every meat-eating spiritual leader before she can say anything about a sexual abuser of a child? Wow. Deflect, deflect, deflect, eh? Be glad it wasn't your daughter he molested. Or maybe you'd still choose to ignore it and blame her for being tempting to him.
We know that type well. You have no intention of protecting the innocent here. Your chosen one admitted he was guilty. If you choose to defend and follow a bogus guru in any capacity, you are a mudha. Perhaps you should accept that like most of us, your trust was misplaced and strive for actual sadhu-sanga.
https://news.yahoo.com/french-cardinal-says-abused-14...
French cardinal says he abused 14-year-old girl 35 years ago
Not the pope, but this should be an example for lokanath.
And I'm even more confused now. The pope ate a child? Oh my. Or maybe you meant she hasn't called out a child for what exactly? Please clarify.
SD: From the article: "The report described a “systemic” coverup by church officials" Hmm, sounds familiar.
AD Those are your mleccha Ilk ….
[PADA: Either India's chain of gurus from Krishna are often falling into illicit sex with men, women and children, or not. It is unfortunate that Lokanath does not know the answer to that point. We do know, because we are spirit souls, not India or Western souls.
It is however very amazing that we Western people know that God's successors are not deviants, and Lokanath or his followers are clueless. It looks like having a brown body born in India is not a guarantee one is self realized, which is why the GBC admits 75% of their program is now in India. The industrial level factory child abuse program is worshiped there, and the reason is, there is a lot of ignorance over there. Don't be proud of your ignorance.]
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BB: I respect a great many of you, but I am curious. Do you think Iskcon can actually redeem itself someday and become a respectable organization? It seems the general consensus is it isn't at the moment, and it really never has been if we're being honest. I think after the disenfranchising of an entire generation of children, the collective membership would have realized that leaders had their priorities wrong, and their fundamental ethics and moral compass were compromised. At what point do you throw up our hands in disgust and call it what it is? A dying organization with very little prospect of improvement. Would anyone here tolerate such dysfunction in any other secular institution? After all Krishna Consciousness isn't dependent on Iskcon and the seed of the Maha Mantra and Srila Prabhupada has been planted and will inevitably grow of its own accord.
KB: The New Generation is already introducing Srila Prabhupada outside the institution. Yup. Krishna consciousness does not depend on it.
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PADA: How can a guru be corrected, censured, suspended, removed, forced to resign etc.? That means Lokanath thinks a guru is a mundane man. Lokanath has concocted all these "GBC rules for the guru." None of these rules are found in Srila Prabhupada's works, rather he says it is an offense to correct the guru.
ISKCON Imposes Ban on Bhakti Vidya Purna Swami for Sexual Abuse of Minor and Leadership Abuse
Report by ISKCON Communications
On October 28, 2022, the ISKCON Central Office of Child Protection (ICOCP), also referred to as the Child Protection Office (CPO), released its official decision regarding Bhakti Vidya Purna Swami (BVPS aka Alan Ross Wexler).
BVPS was found responsible for sexual abuse, (sexual) harassment, and psychological abuse of a female minor. The ICOCP case against BVPS is from newly reported incidents that occurred between 2005-2010.
The news of this past child abuse has had severe repercussions among the global community of ISKCON devotees.
The ISKCON global community sends our prayers for the healing of the victims and their families.
This case demonstrates why ISKCON globally must continue to be vigilant about child protection and to ensure vulnerable devotees in our society are safe in creating a “house where everyone can live” that our founder Srila Prabhupada built for us all.
In addition to child abuse, incidents of spiritual leadership sexual misconduct involving BVPS have become apparent but are beyond the purview of the ICOCP to evaluate. BVPS was an initiating guru, sannyasi, principal of the school, a Srila Prabhupada disciple, a senior leader of Mayapur, and decades older than the victims.
A joint investigation is being undertaken by the Prevention of Leadership Misconduct Office (PLMO), the Sannyasa ministry, and the Guru Services Committee, which are currently reviewing BVPS’ sannyasa and guru statuses.
BVPS has had two previous ICOCP investigations and decisions regarding allegations of child abuse.
In 2000, the CPO case was centered around allegations from the 1980s-1990s timeframe when he served as principal of the Bhaktivedanta Academy Gurukula (boy’s school) and admitted to “imposing excessive physical punishments” (CPO Report, 2000). Further, the investigation found that BVPS was aware of the incidences of sexual child abuse but chose to ignore them. Consequently, BVPS was restricted from any role directly in connection with children, barred from initiating disciples, giving classes, etc., for a specified time. He was later banned from accepting any new disciples for life.
A CPO investigation followed this in 2007, which was inconclusive. In 2015, a CPO case was made against the Bhaktivedanta Academy (girl’s school), and although not mandated by the CPO, it ultimately led to the school’s shutdown. Although BVPS was not the primary person under investigation, the CPO discovered that he had promoted a “…culture of fear surrounding the school and speaking out…”. The office further noted BVPS’ inappropriate behavior with a young female at that time that should have been reviewed by the Sannyasa Committee (CPO Report 2015).
This latest CPO case is the fourth in a series of related investigations, each conducted by previous CPO directors and informal investigations done by parents (before the CPO existed) dating back to 1991.
The in-depth and corroborating victim reports of this abuse are confidential from public bodies to protect the victim’s and their family’s identities. The ICOCP review panel that decided on BVPS consisted of CPO-trained members of the global ISKCON community. The findings of the ICOCP have been shared with relevant agencies and the Governing Body Commission (GBC).
After reviewing the report and deliberating on its contents, the ICOCP review panel found that BVPS is responsible for child sexual abuse, (sexual) harassment, emotional and spiritual abuse, and grooming of a child. The review panel found that the evidence against BVPS was compelling and the abuse he caused was “…cruel, callous, and unremorseful [in] nature…”.
The panel stressed the severity and hypocrisy of the abuse were made even worse given BVPS’ position and respected stature in ISKCON as an initiating Guru and Vedic-lifestyle preacher. The panel added: “Whilst BVPS was sitting on the vyasasana in the temple room [in Mayapur] and teaching the children at the schools [Gurukulas], he would preach about Vedic principles. However, in his private life, he was sexually molesting a minor and engaging in gross sexual behavior with a young woman, which he has admitted to.”
The panel set out requirements for BVPS, including an apology to the victim and a fee of USD $5,000 to be given to the victim for counseling. The restrictions set out against BVPS are in full in the report.
Guidelines from the ICOCP state that:
“Requirements or restrictions determined by the Review Panel cannot be reduced by a local community, temple president, or local GBC. The panel’s decision constitutes the minimum restrictions an ISKCON organization or community may place on a devotee. Any specific ISKCON organization may choose to invoke more stringent restrictions. However, it is expected that all ISKCON entities will carefully consider these decisions of the Review Panel before imposing more stringent limitations, as the constraints prescribed herein are deemed to be sufficient regarding child protection.”
Three-Year Restrictions on BVPS
BVPS may not reside or stay overnight at any ISKCON temple or center for three years. He also may not visit any ISKCON centers or projects for three years (except for one temple of his choice, which he may visit after informing the ICOCP in writing and receiving permission from the local Temple President).
After the three years of this ban, BVPS may revisit ISKCON temples, except for Mayapur, as this is where the abuse occurred. However, his visit to an ISKCON Temple is conditional upon first informing the Temple President of the ICOCP report and obtaining permission from the local authorities before such a visit.
Lifetime Restrictions on BVPSHe may not reside in or visit ISKCON Mayapur ever again. He has 30 days from the date of this decision to leave.
He may not stay overnight or reside at any ISKCON center or facility affiliated with ISKCON.
He may not hold any position of leadership or management, even in an advisory capacity.
He may not continue to give first, second, or sannyasa initiations, or ritvik initiations via other sannyasis, or accept any new disciples for siksa.
[PADA: OK so eventually the Prabhupada devotees will all be dead, but no one can initiate as their agents? Ever? So there won't be any system after they are all gone.]
He may not give class or lead kirtana/harinama in any ISKCON temple or project, including online.
He may not perform brahminical services such as cooking for, dressing the Deities, or any public worship such as offering arati, going on the altar, offering a garland to Srila Prabhupada, performing abhishek, etc.
He shall not have service involving children in any ISKCON temple, school or project in any capacity whatsoever. This includes, but is not limited to, training new teachers, giving advice, or sitting on an advisory board/committee. Children are defined as anyone under 18 years of age.
He may not be present if victims or their family members are present at an ISKCON center or function. If the victim or family arrive at the same place as BVPS, he should leave immediately.
This decision is an ecclesiastic in nature that defines the relationship between BVPS and ISKCON.This official decision may be appealed to the CPO within 60 days of receipt of the decision. It must be submitted in writing to the CPO Director. The only two principles that an appeal may be accepted are 1) if procedures in the original review prevented a fair and impartial hearing or 2) if there is new and compelling additional evidence.
It is expected that the GBC Body will soon provide further advice for those devotees who have taken spiritual shelter and guidance from BVPS, including his disciples.
LW: That was the first thing the Lokanath swami people said. He touched a young girl because ... he is naive about dealing with females, because that is part of the culture of India. Really smart answer there!
ReplyDeleteIn USA ... any drunken bum knows ... older men should not touch little girls. Any drunken bum in the USA has higher "culture" than the entire India ICC and their acharyas ... like Lokanath.
Lets fact it, Lokanath people hate India, hate Krishna, hate India culture, hate children, hate the acharyas, and hate devotees of Krishna. And that is why they set up industrial molesting of Krishna's children, so they could destroy them. Is there any other logical excuse for them doing that.
And that is why India is such a messed up crap hole. Bad karma! To say that touching young girls is part of the "cultural heritage of India" is about as low as it gets. Even most people in India know that is a load of manure. They are misrepresenting the whole India.
Silly me! I thought they could not stoop lower ... but they prove me wrong every day! They can stoop to "I am my body" as their main argument, the first argument Srila Prabhupada defeats because he says, "you ARE NOT your body."
Lokanath is proud to be a bag of stools stupid head and then so are all his followers. He is teaching people "I am a bag of stools." That means they all have stools for brains. And that is why there are molested kids all over their place wherever they are. Everything they touch turns to stools.
P Dasi: One of the main reasons given by Iskcon India ICC to defend Lokanatha, was the supposed anti Indian bias, and racism.
ReplyDeleteNow that people have gone so wholeheartedly against BVP, this excuse is null and void. The truth is -- we want to protect the children against all abusers and monsters. We don’t care what the color of their skin is. I’m curious if any of you have engaged recently with those people defending LS, who used racism as their pretext. What is their excuse now?
PADA: The excuse of the Lokanath people is always the same thing, anyone who disagrees with their pedophile worship is a mleccha, even when the pedophiles they support are from mleccha culture. They just promote pedophiles, it does not matter what race they are. And they are burying pedophiles in a samadhi, because they could not bury that piece of trash over here, we did not want it. ys pd