PADA: OK Tamumadhya, now the Russian media people are gloating that they are going to freeze the Ukraine babies to death, and for years to come. I am sorry, but freezing teeny babies to death for years to come is not part of my agenda, nor would I gloat about it. Obviously, Russia leaders are frightened of teeny babies and they have to wipe them out, but so was Kamsa.
There are hundreds of Ukraine devotees who had to flee, sorry I do not think devotees with little babies are military targets. Nor do I believe their stories are Western media fictions, I know a number of the victims and have posted fund me for them etc. They are not paid Western media actors, sorry.
Russian speaking people in Russian areas of Ukraine now have no food, no water, no electricity, they are destroying their own people never mind others. They are planning on freezing their own Russian speaking people there, they are sabotaging all the power supplies to their own Russian speaking region.
And how many Russian speaking soldiers are gone permanently. And how many millions had to flee Russia itself. That is not helping Russian folks. And by many accounts several billion animals have been killed such as fishes etc. And now they want to starve Ethiopia, so they can starve millions over there. Sorry, none of this is helping. ys pd
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Tanumadhya replied that since I do not support his idea that freezing babies to death is good military strategy, he is going to block me. Umm, ok then. Sorry, people who take delight in freezing babies to death are not part of the PADA agenda.
And he said -- I am against Russia, well maybe, but Prabhupada ALSO said Russia is a bunch of tyrants and they rule by thug behaviors. Prabhupada is against Russia and I agree. Of course freezing babies to death was not a good idea 50 billion years ago, and it won't be a good idea 50 billion years from now, it has nothing to do with Russia and America, it is an eternal principle at all times in all of Krishna's universes everywhere.
Thus, I fail to see how freezing people's babies to death is part of any bona fide military war rules and laws. Babies are not a military target, and according to the laws of Manu, people who execute innocent people in wars are fit to be sent to hellish planets and suffer for eons amount of time. Why would I support that?
I am against killing babies, and anyone who does that. And if we are going to kill people, we should kill them outright and not torture them slowly to death by freezing them over weeks, months and years. Torture of non-combatants is not authorized in my opinion. I am however not that surprised that another "Krishna devotee" thinks torture and freezing babies to death is a valid war strategy, there are a lot of sick devotees out there, and since you are evidently gleefully gloating over torturing and killing helpless children, you are simply another one of them.
We (the GBC gang) also tortured the ISKCON children -- and we won. Won what? A free trip to hell, that is all one wins by that strategy.
At the same time, I get it. The West is partially to blame -- they made and enabled Mr. Putin by supporting his economy and allowing him to grow. The West is implicated in creating their own monster. Fine. However, freezing babies to death is not excusable. Two wrongs don't make a right. Animal slaughter is sinful, and people slaughter is also sinful. No one is authorized to do either. In fact, Srila Prabhupada says, no one is authorized to even give grief to a teeny ant, all of them are God's children, never mind gloating over torturing babies to death.
OK I am not against Russia per se, but I am against torturing children to death. Sorry, I cannot sign up for your program. And gloating over being a baby freezing torturer is not even what any other normal human beings are doing, most normal people are on my side, we should not torture and kill babies, it is demoniac. It is amazing that I would even have to tell anyone that. What do you expect when you have to tell people pedophiles are not God's successors?
Sheesh! Well hee hee, another day at the zoo!
ys pd angel108b@yahoo.com
LW: Wow, another advocate for baby torturing and killing who claims to be a "Hare Krishna devotee." No one should be surprised. I certainly am not. There seems to be a group of them who filtered into the movement. They are gradually being exposed, that is good. We need to weed each one of them out.
ReplyDeleteMama Bear: I agree. Whatever the problem is ... starving and freezing little babies is not the solution. Neither drowning kittens is the solution.
ReplyDeleteThey don't understand basic level karma. The people who encourage starving and freezing babies ... will be starved and frozen when they are babies ... in the future. They will reap exactly what they sowed.
They are simply staying in the world of the demons by encouraging the demons. But the real mystery for me is, you mean there are devotees out there ... who have not yet learned about the evils of starving and harming children. After all the problems their society has had with the problem of mistreating children ... they have learned zero.
It is worse than learning zero. They still think their starving and freezing and harming children idea is ... the solution to their problems. They are not trainable people. Encouraging the people who are starving and killing babies is not what any normal human ever does.
These people are not humans ... they come from the lower planets and they want us to go back there with them. Lets expose them before they harm another child's life. I am not really shocked to find another Hare Krishna who gloats and takes great delight over harming and killing babies. Unfortunately come to expect it. At least some of us Hare Krishnas know -- harming babies is evil. These people have no feelings for Krishna and that is why they have no feelings for His babies.
They are simply giving Krishna a bad name. And that is what they wanted to do the whole time. Krishna will never accept them into His world as long as they are envious of Him ... and that is the reason they are envious of His babies having some basic needs ... they are envious of Krishna and so they are envious of His part and parcel.
That is what Srila Prabhupada taught us all the time. Do not be envious ... or you will stay here to rot in the material prison.
Bhaktin E: Russia's history has always been using starving, freezing, chopping off water supplies, poisoning the well. And they use many other similar tricks ... which we all know kills babies, animals, old people and everyone else ... and for centuries.
ReplyDeleteWherever they go ... look out for the mass graves. Now they are sending their own very young men to the front ... they look to me like childrens ... something like young babies ... and they will all be killed. They will kill your baby and their baby and everyone else's baby.
This is not a new idea for them. Starve the babies, freeze the babies, poison the well water for the babies ... all we have to do is read their history. Why would a so-called devotee support that history? Because he was one of the former soldiers in Russia committing all these crimes and atrocities and he wants to justify in his current life.
So sorry. Look at their history. Everything they do now they have done in the past. There was no justification in past ... and none now. Harming babies is wrong ... even dogs and pigs know that. They do not. And they never will. Krishna says the demons are sworn to unclean works that are not beneficial, they are sworn to that because that evil is in their unclean hearts.
They have evil desires and that manifests in real life. That is a lesson for us to sweep out own hearts so we do not fall into their dark hole. I feel sorry for them, they hate babies, they drown kittens, we know who these people are, and we know their future is very dark. All the more reason to try to remember Krishna's plan ... be merciful to others ... and then you get His mercy.
KM: Don't you ever get discouraged by always being banned by these people. And what is the use of chanting for 50 years if Tanumadhya just wants to help the Russia military people ... who want to have little babies freeze, suffer and die slow and painful deaths.
ReplyDeleteThat would mean he just wasted 50 years of chanting for nothing. He might as well have chanted "smelly socks" and got the same result. He is misrepresenting Krishna. Krisha never wants to have His little babies starved, beaten, molested, frozen to death and all the rest of it. They want to do that, not Krishna. Very dishonest cheater people.
PADA: Thanks for your concern KM. As a matter of fact no, I am not discouraged with being blocked by "the devotees." As soon as I mentioned the problem with children in 1979, I was blocked, banned, removed, exiled, cursed and etc. It is what they do, most of the time.
After that episode -- I was not only banned, blocked, insulted, but also chased with bats, my friends were assassinated, other associates were blocked, sued, beaten, and who knows what else. And that is still the pattern, as soon I say children should not be mistreated, ka-blam, both barrels.
That is very typical of the behavior of their child abusing cult and it has happened so many times, it no longer shocks me whatever. In fact I have come to expect this treatment from them. As soon as I say children are not to be mistreated, they will ban, block, remove, exile, and even take me out permanently if they can.
That is not a discouragement, it means, they cannot justify their abuse of children agenda and they have no good reply. Hence, banning, beating, blocking etc. Sulochana said -- They are anti-women, anti-children, anti-family and pro-child abusers. And so they banned and blocked him too. It is what they do.
In the case of Tanumadhya, he is clearly pro-starving and freezing babies to death, torturing them slowly so they die long painful deaths, because he is quoting the Russian media people who are gloating over their plan of freezing babies to death.
That means he endorses that agenda. So he self evidently wants to see little babies starving and freezing to death, and when we asked him why he loves to see that, and he just got angry because -- he was caught.
Now if we study the shastra, we find that there are many hells that fit the behaviors we are doing now. Thus, the people who like to starve and freeze babies to death will go to an appropriate place where they will experience what they wished to happen to their baby victims. They will either enjoy or suffer the same things that they dished out to others.
I don't envy them, I think the people who desire to see babies suffer and die will be in for a very bumpy ride in their future life. In fact shastra guarantees it. Even the ordinary American Joe six pack would never gloat about starving and freezing babies to death, because they are much more pious than he is.
He is just angry that we caught on to his real agenda. But that is why Chanakhya pandit says, anger means defeat. They cannot answer the points, so they get angry. So that is good, let them get angry, but our job is to expose their agenda and we are.
And anyone else can try it out, such as my police and media friends etc. The devotees give them the run around as well, as they have reported to me extensively. Ban, block, exile, and avoid, but they cannot avoid their judgement day.
JJ: Nobody reads Tanumadhya view points anyway, no one comments on anything he posts. He is another person who reads all sorts of stupid Russian Pravda Propaganda ... which everyone knows is a pile of dog manure since the 1950s. If Putin says something he believes it, just like his cult believed all the crap the GBC says.
ReplyDeleteThis cult is just more harmful than his original cult. He is going from bad to worse. Chanting for 50 years ... so now he can join a worse child abuse cult than the one he was already in. That is what happens when you chant for 50 years to Satan. I feel bad for the guy. It is a lonely life when you promote Satanic child abuse cults. No one listens to the guy ... wonder why?
MM: Oh no! After 40 years of molesting children, now they have to stick babies into a refrigerated death and kill them? WTF is wrong with these people? And calling them people is being very kind. It sounds to me like the cult is getting worse and not better.
ReplyDeleteBut I agree with JJ, no normal and sane person listens to these loons nowadays anyway., the evil empire is doomed ... collapsing daily. Nobody in their right mind thinks it is a good idea to place babies into a refrigerated death, which proves -- they are not in their right minds. Very sinister people.
PADA: Yes, Tanumadhya has been promoting the Russia media people, same people who have been laughing and joking how they are going to freeze the citizens / babies to death. So he thinks freezing babies is something to laugh and joke about. And the GBC laughed at me when I said there is a molesting program.
Yep, Sulochana said, birds of a feather -- flop together. Great minds think alike. OK and so do sinister minds. Hee hee. Yep, not one single person wrote me to defend his idea. Someone just told me, even Stephen King does not write about sticking babies into a refrigerator, even he knows that is too abominable to ever mention anytime, what to speak of openly promote the idea. ys pd]
E Dasi: Amazing how many times we read about demons trying to harm or kill children ... as a means of staying in power. There are many incidents.
ReplyDeleteMore amazing ... after all these histories of killing children to stay in power ... none of them are allowed to stay in power for much period of time anyway. They commit horrible sins ... and then are finished off regardless. It really does not matter how many children they kill ... they cannot live for long in this world. No one can.
But each time they think they will last for a long time by killing the children. That is the power of illusion. It is much more than that. They also kill the animals ... and do not think that is bad either. They will kill all these animals and live for a long time. Nothing but illusion.
I am not surprised a so-called Hare Krishna devotee would advocate child killing at this point in my life. They already destroyed most of their own children by supporting molesting in many ways ... at least they killed their children's spiritual lives. And that is because there is a cruel streak running among this society. And that is why some of them have been so cruel to me. There is something wrong.
I had to keep pushing away the hand of a guru who was massaging my daughter's hands over and over. But I was the trouble ... not him. Something very dark and cruel is going on ... and this Tanumadhya man is just one of the symptoms. Unless the devotees recognize that some demon forces has taken over their society in many respects ... they won't be able to drive out the demons ... they will be the demons.
F Dasi: Tanumadhya could not last 2 days without electrical power and heat, but he wants millions of babies to have none so they will freeze slowly to death. So much wealth do I have today, and I have killed so many enemies. Babies are his enemies? Such a twisted twit. Typical sadistic "devotee." I know the type. Kitten drowning type.
ReplyDeleteThere are too many of them around these days. Agree with E Dasi, weed them out or become one of them. Or be part of their ugra karma. I cannot stand these puffed up people who want everyone else to live an austere life ... that they never could tolerate themselves.
He is just like the GBC leaders with their Apple laptops, silk clothes, padded cushion chairs, going to the health spa, while we are out in the cold and rain doing the pick. Been there and done that with these dudes.
Let everyone else freeze to death ... while I sit in comfort. That means he is envious that some baby somewhere has heat ... he envies even teeny babies. Typical sadist. You read about these sadistic people doing horrible things to others in the news and you wonder ... who could think like that? But they are out there .. even in Hare Krishnas ... trust me.
JJ: Yes, it figures that a Hare Krishna devotee would endorse blowing up babies to kill them. We could not get some of them molested, lets kill some now. Very odd people? And they claim to be religious.
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The mother, her doctor, and the newborn were rescued from under the rubble after the Wednesday morning attack, but the baby later died, according to Reuters. The attack destroyed the two-story maternity facility and also left two doctors injured, Ukrainian authorities said.
“Horrible pain,” Ukraine’s first lady, Olena Zelenska, tweeted Wednesday. “We will never forget and never forgive.”
Ukraine’s prosecutor general’s office said the hospital was targeted with an S-300 missile. “A baby was killed, a new mother and a doctor were wounded,” the office posted on Telegram.
PADA: That is right, no one will forget, whether it is molesting children, or killing them. They will go down in history, and go down to the lowest planets after that. And no one will forget, includes Yamaraja.
G Dasi: Shastra says ... people who encourage sins are karma parts of those sins. Encouraging bombing and freezing millions of babies to death ... will place him on the resulting karma blame. He is with them ... the butchers ... and he will get the butcher's karma for encouraging butchery. Devotees who are encouraging butchers are not devotees ... they are fakes ... Kali's devotees.
ReplyDeleteD Dasi: I have seen my first hand self how cruel many "Krishna people" can be. Ukraine has already lost hundred of thousands of cows from all the bombing of farms. Millions of cows could die without electricity, water and food. And freeze to death soon. Terrible death.
ReplyDeleteAm I surprised some Krishna people would want annihilation of a million cows? Tortured to death. Not at all. There are some dark hearts in some of these Krishna people. We have had to learn the hard way about it.
And all the rats, mice, cats, pigs, dogs, fish, and millions of other animals ... he is happy to have dead. Russia wants Ukraine ... minus all the people and animals. They have to all die. And so they want to kill all the people and animals. And we should not be their friends.
Krishna people should not wish to see a country minus all its people and animals bombed in fires of oblivion ... there is no actual devotee of God who would want that. Demons only want that and we know who they are.
It is sad they have come to the Krishna religion to ruin it. Take their millions of dead wish somewhere else. Krishna says ... anyone who kills the non-fighters has to go to hell and burn there for many Yugas ... and He is right. They do not believe in Krishna. They believe in Satan.
JJ: Blocking PADA really helped out the ISKCON children didn't it. Where was this fellow when all the children were being abused? He certainly was not helping PADA then, or now.
ReplyDeleteNo one heard about his name that I know of. Now is he mad because he cannot have more cows and babies blown up? Leave it to the experts and not involve him in the reform. He needs to be reformed himself ... just like his GBC types.
What kind of devotees sit around hoping cows and babies are going to be blown up? We already know ... the same type of people who have children abused. Same mentality, cruel and heartless.
B Dev: Putin just spoke with soldier's mothers and wives and he told them "everyone has to die eventually." And "more people die in auto crashes than my war." Suppose I tell a mother or wife ... their man has to die because "everyone dies eventually."
ReplyDeleteAt least he is partially correct. Everyone has to die eventually. But if you are the person causing their death ... you have to take that karma with you. Even some ISKCON people say "It is the children's karma." No it is the leader's karma and they are victimizing others ... so the victims can suffer or die.
This sounds exactly like the GBC. Yes we know people are getting molested ... and some are taking their lives ... but so what ... more people die in car crashes. This is realy sounding worse and worse as it goes on. The man is clueless. And so is the GBC.
Mama Bear: Oh yeah. The mothers meeting with Putin were all staged actors. There are photos of those same ladies with Putin from years ago. One of the "mothers" is already famous female FSB agent. One of the photos of a dead soldier was a young man who died 5 years ago. Total bait to make the audience think these are real mothers.
ReplyDeleteMeanwhile even Russia TV said their own soldiers do not have socks, winter boots, underwear, food and ammunition and some of them are now freezing to death. And some are killing themselves because the conditions are too harsh to live in.
Great society here. They freeze your babies, they freeze their own babies, their own children soldiers. Everyone gets to freeze to death so Putin can ... rule a land that is dead with no people and full of land mines and broken buildings. He gets to sit on the thone pile of dead bodies. This is really a bad program for anyone to support. Except morbid and sadistic Hare Krishnas will support it ... hah hah.