MJ: I have to say that your PADA news is very depressing, in a sort of dark cloud, and it is not enlivening. It is really giving people a headache in my opinion. Criminal behaviors should be dealt with by civil law enforcements and not devotee vigilante groups. This looks like a witch hunt.
PADA: Thanks for your assessment. First of all, if all these crimes had all been reported to law enforcement in the first place, there never would have been a need for PADA. And there would not have been anything for us to report.
Next, consider that some of the victims are finally speaking up -- but only recently, some just as recent as this week. More victims report they feel more freedom (from fear and reprisals) now -- because the coast is clear -- and so they no longer need to be fearful.
Why have they been fearful in the first place? And yes, the coast is more clear now because of us renegades clearing out the land mines -- and making it easier for victims to stand up, by giving a voice to the prior victims. The prior victims survived, maybe I can as well. And so more and more victims are feeling free to speak up. And they are, and it will increase.
That children victims report being fearful at all means, they have been in fear their whole lives because mostly their abuse started at the early stages of their lives. We should be glad these formerly fearful children are feeling less fear at this stage and applaud them to come out of their fear bubble.
Some people are complaining that various victims rememberance stories are not fully accurate. What do you expect? They were in a car crash type trauma when they were a child, so they may not have all the details correct. But the victims did experience some severe trauma, that is correct.
Maybe they embellished the story because the trauma just got worse over time and they compensated by adjusting the story. Not sure what difference all that makes overall. It is a little silly to expect a now adult to recall all of the specific details of a traumatic event in their childhood, when most people cannot remember what they were doing last week.
If someone has been fearful from their childhood up to their adult life now, then we should be helping them come out of their fear bubble, and we are trying to do that. What good is it doing the victims to leave them in a state of fearful repression. It is just doubling down on their existing trauma.
Giving victims a voice is the number one helpful cure for their trauma, according to several experts we spoke with. They need to be able to express their frustration, grief, anger and so on. Otherwise, it just festers and makes them suffer with no recourse. I do not see that as a good option.
Srila Prabhupada said, preach first to the devotees, and we are trying to do so. Many devotees have thanked me for the work I am doing, some credit my work with saving their lives. Suppose we only saved one life the whole time? Then it was still worth it.
So our attempt to give victims a voice is now encouraging more and more victims to express their voices. To me that is a good sign. Your plan to save them from fear and trauma is -- exactly what? Let me know what your plan is and maybe we could adopt it.
Meanwhile one ex-kuli victim said he has been sitting on the sidelines for decades, but now he wants to speak up and "be a kshatriya." We need kshatriyas in our society, so we should encourage more of that development. If you yourself take birth here later on, you'd better pray there are some guardian type people here at that time -- who will protect you -- so you won't end up like these victims. Even if you don't want to save anyone else, you should want to save yourself.
My idea is that everyone of us was suppressed or attacked by the elite leader's cabal. Srila Prabhupada complained of being poisoned. Then his disciples were banned, beat, exiled, sued and / or assassinated. Then the children of the disciples were attacked with a molesting network. Then the GBC started numerous spin off movements with folks like BR Sridhar / BV Narayan / BV and BP Puri maharajas / Babajis etc. to drain all the more manpower away from ISKCON so they could bankrupt the ISKCON society further than they had already bankrupted it.
Then most of the first wave of GBC guru's disciples had to leave when they finally realized they too were being exploited, and so on. The only difference is, children who are being jackbooted in the head by an evil cabal have no mental capacity or defensive tools to protect themselves. They are helpless, making these crimes against the helpless all the more heinous. At least I was an adult, so I had some mental resources and reasoning ability to combat the jackbooters.
In the end, yes I am in a dark cloud. Who made this dark cloud of crimes and deviation? Perhaps you are blaming the messenger. My other purpose, apart from helping people now, is to help people 500 years from now. They should know this history so they do not re-live it again and again.
Various devotees have called me the junkyard dog, the sewer cleaner, the unhappy camper, the offender, and who knows what else. Fine, but I cannot help notice a lot of them died, or are dying now, and mostly from cancer. Maybe they avoided the front lines of the war, but got hit by the side effects of the war anyway.
This also happened when Krishna told Arjuna -- you cannot avoid the war -- or the effects. You will have to either fight, or suffer various ill effects. I do not think avoiding the battle saved a lot of lives, just the opposite, many lives were destroyed anyway from the effects.
To sum, if you or anyone else has a better plan, I am ready to review it. Sitting on the sidelines and allowing thousands of children to be molested will not help a person's future life IMHO. I know some of the former children of big, big leaders who later became criminals in jail, drug addicts, some females who became prostitutes, some children who died of suicide, and who knows what else, which means -- some of these big, big leaders did not even protect their own kids -- never mind other's kids.
And I believe they are the cause of the dark cloud over not only my life, not only over the whole society, but even their own kids were placed under their ignorance darkness. Notice now how former victims are now gaining strength, which has been one of our goals the whole time:
(A disciple of Jayapataka) : To err is human to forgive is divine. Hate the sins but not the sinner. But in the scandalous BVP case, its beyond sin and err ... he is not remorseful and zero repentance revelation. revealed. Its all preplanned, and its an organised sexual exploitation abuse. Its done so expertly in the community of Vaishnavas. Therefore, everyone is accountable. The GBC, Sannyasi Ministry, all of the Gurukul staff, all of BVP''s associate and buddy Sannyasis. A thorough investigation should be conducted on each one of them. They are all complicit.
PADA: This is just a sample of stuff we are getting every day. So that means, more light is shining through the dark clouds of ignorance. The only way to combat darkness is with light, and the truth is the light. "I am the way, the truth, and the light." Yep, there is only one way out of darkness, and that is, with light. ys pd
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