Mahesh Raja Comments on Lokanath Imbroglio

Temples of the illicit sex messiah's club seem to be:

kinda empty?

Where did everyone go?

[PADA: It is interesting that when the ISKCON GBC's "messiahs from Vaikuntha gurus" are falling into illicit sex with men, women and children, and maybe sex with the family goat, then we are all advised to sit back and "be tolerant and forgiving." And that is allegedly because -- Bhagavad Gita says a -- neophyte -- might fall down into abominable activity -- by accident. 

Ooops! This "accidental falling down" problem is being mis-cited as applying to Krishna's gurus and acharya (diksha guru) successors. However it is not something we find in gurus and acharyas, but only in aspiring neophytes. Yet now, it is evidently "common" that God's successor acharyas fall down into abominable activity.

Sorry! The Bhagavad Gita does NOT say this "forgiving" concept applies to Krishna's successors, gurus and acharyas -- who are allegedly falling down left, right and center like the GBC's gurus. And then we have to forgive and tolerate when "God's successor acharyas" fall into abominations. That is not what "tolerating fall down" applies to, rather this is a reference to us, the neophytes, stumbling on the path in the beginning stages. 

And "tolerating of nonsense in God's successors" has become -- not the exception -- but the general rule in the ISKCON society. Thus orchestrators of banning, beating, child molesting, and sometimes murders are "tolerated" and kept in posts of authority, even as alleged messiahs from heaven. Meanwhile anyone who wants to worship Srila Prabhupada as their guru is not tolerated for ten seconds, they get the boots in face treatment. Now, the gurus and acharyas are more or less regular mundane men who fall into illusion on a regular basis, as most of their alleged acharyas have done. 

Anyway, more people are seeing through this bogus rationalization. Yes, as a matter of fact, the guru is a resident of Vaikuntha, therefore he may be acting in an abominable manner -- due to the fact he is not yet free of material conditioning. OK that makes the acharyas defective and mundane. If he is subject to material conditioning, he is not God's successor guru.

Now some of the India ICC sympathy folks are complaining, the worse than can be done at this point is to ban Lokanath from preaching in North America. He will still be the worshiped acharya in India no matter what. So all that we have accomplished is -- to drive a wedge between the USA GBC leaders and the India leaders -- which is hurting the unity of ISKCON. Umm, why should we be unified in promoting the worship of an illicit sex with men, women and children guru parampara? 

The ISKCON India ICC wants us "fallen Western people" to unify under the banner of promoting their illicit sex with men, women and children guru parampara. This raises more questions than answers. For example: how is the worship of a pedophile messiah's club going to work -- as the banner we all have to unite under? And doesn't Srila Prabhupada say it is a severe offense, indeed the mad elephant offense, to consider gurus are fallen and abominable i.e. "still conditioned" souls? ys pd]    

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From: Mahesh Raja 

Sent: Friday, 18 June 2021, 17:07:13 BST

Subject: They are MANIPULATING api cet su-durācāro verse to suit their agenda BUT actually that verse refers to ACCIDENTAL falldown.

Basu Ghosh Das:

1. Her campaign against Lokanath Swami is misguided and ill advised.
2. She ought not ignore the instructions of Lord Krishna in Bhagavad-gita

9.30, as well as Srila Prabhupada's comments to this Gita verse.

https://krishna1008.blogspot.com/2021/06/indias-pedophile-guru-defenders-strike.html

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Mahesh Raja cites:

Mr Phillip Davies / Pradyumna das: Perhaps you do not understand We are still here, still chanting rounds, disciples of Srila Prabhupada’s disciples, Myself from Bhavananda Prabhu. Despite problems and venomous animosity from some that should have been supportive. api cet su-durācāro, bhajate mām ananya-bhāk sādhur eva sa mantavyaḥ samyag vyavasito hi saḥ.

Mahesh: You just have no clear understanding of the philosophy – at all.

Bhavananda is a CONDITIONED soul. THEREFORE he can NOT have initiated you. The Initiation process recognized by Srila Prabhupada is Ritvik Initiation as per his July 9th 1977 ORDER.

Read the following:

ONLY MAHA-BHAGAVATA IS DIKSA GURU: Srila Prabhupada is OUR Diksa Guru For As Long as His Books Are On The Planet

http://www.prabhupadanugas.eu/news/?p=41422

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Srila Prabhupada’s Disciple

http://www.prabhupadanugas.eu/news/?p=43453

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Srila Prabhupada’s Letters on Ritvik Initiation

http://www.iskcontruth.com/p/srila-prabhupadas-letters-on-ritvik_13.html

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By the way, the verse:

api cet su-durācāro, bhajate mām ananya-bhāk sādhur eva sa mantavyaḥ samyag vyavasito hi saḥ refers to ACCIDENTAL falldown: 

Similarly, the accidental falldown of a devotee from the path of a saintly character does not make him abominable.

Link to this page: https://prabhupadabooks.com/bg/9/30

The falldowns of Bhavananda and the rest of bogus pretender gurus are NOT accidental. Read the colorful history:

http://www.harekrsna.org/guru-photos.htm
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Sudarsana Das Vanacari says:
16. June 2021 at 7:30 am

That “venomous animosity” as you call it may be a result of persons who took severe offense with regards to the severe beatings Bhavananda use to inflict on young children in the Mayapur gurukula or the fact that he molestered a child at New Gaudadesh Farm in Australia, who later committed suicide or even worse that Bhavananda (over a sustained period of 9 months and until his departure!) gave poison to Srila Prabhupada (see poison whispers!). 

The fact that you are still chanting your rounds is due to Srila Prabhupada’s mercy and in spite of the illegal, subversive, traitorous, disgusting and vile activities of Bhavanandasura.

Plotting and sustained poisoning of Srila Prabhupada over a period of at least 9 months is not “accidental falldown” this is the activity of a demon who is destined for hell!

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https://www.prabhupadanugas.eu/news/?p=52716#comment-64990