[PADA: Bhakti Vikas swami says us "seniors" have to clean up our act before we all die. Hee hee! Good idea, when is he going to admit that his illicit sex with men, women and children guru process is bogus? The main reason us "seniors" and even most of our "juniors" -- and even most people in general -- are out of ISKCON, is because they collectively rejected the ISKCON society's bogus guru process. Even GBC "guru" Jayatirtha swami swami said -- most everyone is leaving ISKCON by "voting with their feet." So they knew about this mass exodus process all along.
The mass of devotees simply cannot accept BVKS bogus illicit sex guru's process, and they do not accept that BVKS is another Jesus who can absorb the sins of others either. This is amazing, BVKS is one of the leading exponents of the worship of illicit sex with men, women and children acharya's programs, where his acharyas are -- drinking Vodka, having sex with half dozen disciples, having sex with Taxi drivers, burying deviants in the dham, orchestrating mass child molesting etc., and then he wonders why the citizens of ISKCON have left the institution and "are no longer following."
Well at least they are no longer following the BVKS illicit sex with men, women and children messiahs project? So if they are watching football and drinking beer, that is way better than promoting the worship of illicit sex as acharyas from Vaikuntha. When are these people going to finally agree, this is all deviation?
And he is quoting Ravindra Swarupa, who is living evidently now with Satsvarupa, who says "the more I chant, the drier it gets." Then BVKS wonders why the seniors are drying up. And Ravindra Swarupa says he became a "functionary" and not a spiritual enthused person.
And that means, he is on the mundane plane. So they made the movement into a mundane operation, why don't they just admit that, they are a mundane society of worship of deviants as messiahs. And especially -- now that they are old? So all of these "functionary" folks made their molester messiahs project operate and function, thus they are guilty of making a functioning evil program.
And why would ANY people ANYWHERE want to wake up early, to go down to the temple to worship BVKS and his illicit sex with men, women and children guru program? People would rather watch football and, who could blame them?
And BVKS is correct, once they formalize and institutionalize the worship of their sex with Taxi drivers in the dham acharya's program, then that process dries up and people vacate the institution. True dat! Begs the question, why does he want to promote such a process, knowing the odious end result in advance?
Yes, we do not want to be like the Christians, because they can attract billions of people to worship their guru, while these GBC guys cannot make hardly anything of substance.
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LD: People who make bogus guru programs are not mere "functionary" managers. They are spiritual crooks and criminals. They are cheating people into worship of false gurus ... who are supposed to be "as good as God." And that is why Srila Prabhupada says these "charlatan religionists" dwell always in hell ... after they are done cheating others.
ReplyDeleteThe "functionary managers" of any bogus program will get the karma of making that bogus program. Bhakti Vikas wants us to go out and distribute books after his people kicked out most of the good book distributors. Now many current book distributors do not even want the changed books that the BVKS bogus GBC are producing.
BVKS wants everyone else to come clean ... while he does not. He never explained why he supported the GBC guru program ... and he is voted into it. It is a pedophile guru program ... that cannot even remove a pedophile ... despite so many are objecting. These are the people who need to come clean just before they die ... himself and the people in his program.
I believe that the average person will be blessed at the time of death ... more than these people EVER will. Because the average person worships Jesus and not fools and sexual criminals.
That is because the average person has some respect for ... or at least fear of God's laws. These BVKS people are so much rascal ... just like Isopanisad says ... no respect for the acharyas. So they have to be cast into hell before they cause problems for anyone else.
[PADA: Right. Buddhimanta told me he quit distributing books because the books have the address of temples where bogus people are being worshiped as guru. The whole thing is cheating the public. So he lost all enthusiasm. That is how Bhakti Vikas swami and his crew poisoned the well of preaching. They make bogus people into their gurus and so the top preachers leave in disgust ... because they do not want to cheat the public. People like Buddhimanta did the right thing before death ... he quit supporting and promoting their whole mess. Will BVKS do the same? Let us see! ys pd
M Dasi: I made a mistake. Said to myself ... really cannot think of anything worse ... than telling little children to worship pedophiles ... as their gurus. I was wrong. There is something FAR worse ... we are exiled ... if we do not want our children to worship pedophiles as our gurus. That is BVKS guys whole thing ... in the nutshell.
ReplyDeleteThere should be nothing "more sinful" than corrupting little children with pedophile gurus. Unless we consider ... how they mistreat anyone who disagrees. That is even more sinful.
BVKS is complaining that the seniors have to rectify. No! He is the first person who has to rectify because he helped make this problem.
It looks to me ... he got all of the Western children to worship his pedophiles friends ... and that is how he helped bankrupted and destroyed ISKCON. Destroyed the children ... really destroyed the entire lives of most of the children. He poisoned the children. I am one of those "offender" people who believes they poisoned Prabhupada too. Everything they do is poisoned. And now they are poisoning the books with changes.
BVKS cleverly flees ... to a little village in India where he can hide out from his crimes ... and cheat the humble and simple minded village people very easily ... because they are not very sophisticated. He took his poison snake's oil sales to another location ... that is all.
My experience is same as yours ... mainly his followers have no idea what is really what. BVKS clouds them in ignorance. So all of us have to rectify ... but he is cleverly making pretend he is not the person who needs to first. Another layer of cheating. The false gurus are the most dangerous elements in human society. They are the people who need to rectify first ... themselves.
Your story of Buddhimanta is right. He gives up book distribution because ... he does not want to cheat people ... by having them come to ISKCON ... and worship maybe a pedophile guru. So he quits inviting people to come. That is the real first step of rectification ... we have to stop promoting the wrong thing ... and quit cheating the innocent people. BVKS "seniors need to rectify" is another example of his cheating hypocrisy. He always helps the wrong people ... the other cheaters ... and not any of us.
Now he is making pretend we victims are the problem ... because we "are not following." This is either a very funny joke ... or very sad if he really believes this. We are not following him ... on his fast train ride to hell? Why would we want to follow that train? I agree ... drinking beer and watching football only takes us to grade "C" jail cell. Promoting pedophile gurus takes us to grades "XY and Z" hells. These people are the real reason the lowest planets in hell exist at all ... they need a place to go to. And we grade C prisoners have to rectify ... but not the grade XY and Z lower class of criminals? This is just more BS from the masters of BS. I am just glad I am no longer fooled by any of them.
KD: Some former book distributors in Europe - for example Sweden - collected a lot of money for Harikesh. Then Harikesh blooped - supposedly took a lot of the money when he left. And there are many other book distributors in many other places - who now are older - maybe 60 years old - and they have nothing.
ReplyDeleteMany are living on a shoestring. I know one devotee who now lives in a rotten place that leaks water and has bad electricals - and they are trying to evict him from there to rent to someone else at higher price. Who is helping this man? No one. Especially - no one from ISKCON.
I know some other former book distributors and they also have to live in bad apartments - in bad areas - getting some government assistance maybe. Because they gave their youth - and their money - to ISKCON. Now BVKS wants these senior people to start to distribute books again - to advertise -- the people who left them stranded on a shoestring - with nothing?
BVKS is not really offering a solution. It is all sentimental bluff. The story of Buddhimanta says a lot. He did not want to advertise false gurus - and nothing has changed since 1978 when he complained. Everyone else has to work around their system - but their system does not work - except for a few elites - like BVKS.
All these rest of the people have to eat mud. And Bhakti Chaitanya is now building his nice brand new apartment in S. Africa and construction is under way. So these people have nice big brand new housing - but the poor slave people who built the society - get no help at all. BVKS promoted that system - and he is guilty of helping have these people exploited. Srila Prabhupada says wrong doers are sinful - but people who allow wrong doers are also culprits. BVKS has just some bogus idea that the seniors should do more - but they already squeezed all the juice out of them - and tossed them out like old garbage.
There is also one older lady book distributor I know who now has cancer - same thing - she has to go to the government for some assistance. She gave her youth to them - they stole her life. Now she has to get back into serving? Serving what? When are they going to serve her?
Jojo: Heard it all before. The seniors fell down and went away from their service. They left.
ReplyDeleteWhat did we forget to mention? After we pushed them off the boat. And smashed the fingers ... of those who tried to hang onto the boat ... forcing them to let go.
If this is not victim blaming ... I don't know what is. The gurukulis also all "left their service" too. Everyone left us! After we made them worship bogus gurus ... or leave. The victims did not leave ... they were violently pushed off the ISKCON boat by these goondas. Why do they always forget to mention that? It is disgusting. Now they are giving therapy sessions to the victims ... but keeping the same people in charge ... who have been in charge of the kicking out all along ... nothing has changed. It is all window dressing. The gurukulis all left ... they were not serious. Horrible people never change!