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Make sure to choose your guru carefully!
"Having gurus serving under a Governing Board in a spiritual society is, like many other concepts introduced by Srila Prabhupada, quite novel."
PADA: Except, Srila Prabhupada never said gurus or messiahs are "managed" by a Governing Body? He says the pure devotee is managed by God, not by some committee of conditioned and defective souls.
Yet this is good, because Praghosa de facto admits that their whole pedophile guru program is "managed by the ISKCON GBC," thus they are the directors of this pedophile worshiping process. How do we get pedophile "guru successors to God," they created that process.
And that is why they have right now -- current pedophile gurus -- and they are burying their previous pedophile gurus in samadhis in the holy dham, because the ISKCON GBC managers are "managing and orchestrating" their pedophile messiah's program. And they admit that is what they are doing, they are the vociferous creators, enablers, apologists, cheer leaders and in sum "managers" of their pedophile messiah's system.
Anyway! When we said in 1979 that Jayatirtha is not a guru, because he is having sex with a follower, the ISKCON GBC booted me out of ISKCON for complaining about their illicit sex messiah's program. Srila Prabhupada says -- when a guru has sex with a follower -- it is the same as a father having sex with his own daughter. In sum, it is a form of pedophilia. So they booted me out for complaining about their pedophile guru worship process, or at least it is de facto.
The "guru" is in the superior position -- and is exploiting the subordinate. So their whole pedophile sex program started right out of the gate in 1978. By Srila Prabhupada's standards, many of their sexual predator gurus are direct or de facto pedophiles, thus -- they have a multiple pedophile guru program. And Praghosa das admits, the GBC is managing, manipulating, and orchestrating that system.
Did I forget to mention these folks keep saying that we cannot worship Srila Prabhupada as the guru, rather we need to worship their pedophile pals as gurus because -- otherwise! Forsooth! "We will be like the bogus Christians," who only worship the pure devotee. Right, we have to worship pedophiles and not be bogus like the Christians, because the Christians only worship the actual pure person representative of God. And the Christians avoid pedophile messiah's worship, which makes them "bogus." Really?
OK, begs the question! Why is worship of pedophiles superior to worship of Jesus, in the first place? If you folks want to establish worship pedophiles as your messiahs, ok maybe that is fine for you, but why are you dragging Jesus into your mess? And why are you making little children worship your pedophile messiahs project? Is that not corrupting the morals of minors? Adults can maybe get away with worship of Satan, or pedophiles, or whatever, but why is the Praghosa program forcing little kids to worship their Satanic pedophiles as messiahs project?
Why should we coerce little children to
worship pedophiles as their messiahs?
And a number of their other -- over 100 post 1978 gurus -- ended up sexually abusing followers, having sex with taxi drivers, watching porno and so on and so forth. And some of the victims were in fact minor aged subordinates. Never mind the GBC was sued for $400,000,000 by many of ISKCON's ex-children for mass child abuse. 1,000 ex-child victims initially wanted to sign up, and potentially another 1,000 would have except the case was cut down to 500 victims only.
And this was caused in large part, by the GBC creating an abuse culture. Srila Prabhupada says guru sex with a follower is a pedophile exploiting process, so this happens on a regular basis in their program.
And yet when some of us wanted to remove some deviated gurus, these gurus were sometimes even sent back after being "suspended" and were "reinstated" despite knowing they are deviated. Anyway I congratulate Praghosa das, manager of the UK ISKCON. He admits that he and his pals are managing to place pedophiles (like Lokanath swami) in the post of ISKCON messiah, and they are also managing to place departed pedophiles (like Kirtanananda) in samadhi.
If anyone wants to know why pedophiles are becoming messiahs, they are the people making that happen, and they even admit they are the managers of that system. They say -- the disciple has to decide if they want to worship our pedophile messiahs or not by doing his own homework. How can little toddler children "do their own investigation" as to whether pedophile messiah worship is bona fide or not?
This all saves Lord Yamaraja a lot of work after they die, "Oh you are the guys who said you are the 'managers' of the enforced cult ritualistic worship of homosexuals and pedophiles as messiahs project, which bans, beats, mass molests, sues and assassinates Vaishnavas. Got it!" ys pd
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SGD: It is up to the new disciples to investigate if their guru is bona fide or not. And if we go to the temple and tell those new people not to worship this bogus person ... we will be kicked out.
ReplyDeleteHow can people investigate if their guru is bona fide ... when the people presenting evidence their guru is bogus ... are being kicked out. This makes no sense. We should investigate our guru ... but anyone helping our investigation is ... removed. Then we have some of the followers making death threats to those who expose ... which makes it even harder for the people doing the investigating.
Why doesn't the GBC investigate if this person is a bona fide guru ... before the new people have to? The GBC does not bother to vet its gurus ... the newcomer has to. And the GBC already knows some of its gurus are bogus ... but allows them to remain in the guru seat anyway. So the GBC rubber stamps gurus ... without doing the investigating beforehand? The GBC also does not tell new people Lokanath is a pedophile. So how can people make an informed choice ... when they are not informed?
PADA: Yep, that is like selling a used car with all sorts of problems ... but the dealer does not vet the cars on his lot. It is also amazing that shastra says Krishna dictates to the guru ... but Praghosa says nope! ... the GBC dictates to the guru. Krishna is no longer required. And what is the GBC dictating? You have to help us promote pedophiles as messiahs, or get tossed from ISKCON? ys pd
M. Dasi: Very impressed! Instead of having a singular pedophile guru program ... they have a multiple pedophile guru program. That means we better invest in good running sneakers ... before we "take darshan" of these gurus. We might need to get running away ... fast.
ReplyDeleteI have never heard Srila Prabhupada even mention this multiple guru system ... that would be managed by the GBC. He never said that a committee could manage the guru successor. He never said pedophiles would be gurus in his ISKCON either. He never said we should bury pedophiles in samadhi. This is all their deviant concoction. Some say ... there is a pedophile cult running the world. There is certainly a pedophile cult running this show.
I knew something was up when they said "women are like toilets." Really impressed! What kind of people promote this rubbish? Srila Prabhupada explains ... the crows will come in to enjoy the rubbish. Praghosa crows are trying to remove the smell of the pedophile guru program ... but it is a stinky pile of rubbish ... we can smell it for miles away. That smell cannot be removed. It stinks no matter what they do. Multiple pedophile guru system. When do I start to applaud? I cannot believe people listen to all this stuff and think it is bona fide ... brain dead sheeple.
PADA: Right LD, Praghosa is initiated by Satsvarupa. Satsvarupa broke up the marriage of his own female disciple so he could have an affair with the wife. That is what Srila Prabhupada says is de facto pedophile. Satsvarupa promised a man he could leave his wife and kids with him, and he would personally make sure the kids were not molested. The kids were molested anyway. SDG also wrote all kinds of glorification of Kirtanananda, another pedophile.
ReplyDeleteA former teacher in the SDG school says "every single kid was molested" in the SDG school. So this Praghosa fellow is infected by the pedophile guru process and its seed beeja. He has been worshiping the pedophile messiah's project, or de facto one by Prabhupada's definition, so he evidently does not even see the problem.
And yes, this is utter foolishness, a three year old toddler has to "use discrimination using shastra to decide if he has the right guru." That is not possible, it is simply blaming the victim for "choosing the wrong guru," even if the victims are children. Anyway, yes, Praghosa is initiated by a disciple molester and wife stealer. A person told me Manu Samhita says the wife stealers are made to suffer by being eaten alive by large giant dogs over and over, never mind the crime is way worse if the wife stealer is a guru, and this is the guy Praghosa was initiated by? Hee hee, yep, explains the whole thing does it not? So he is part of the pedophile messiah's club, and his initiating guru Satsvarupa is one of the king pin leaders of that process.
ReplyDeleteNMD: "Andhā yathāndhair upanīyamānās [SB 7.5.31] = blind leader leading other blind men. So how they will get relief? Both the leader and the followers will go to hell. That's all." Morning Walk - Sept. 16, 1972, Los Angeles.
That is where their train wreck is going. Good news is ... they banned me from the temple here. That means ... at least I won't be on their same train wreck when it gets to Yamaraja's planet. I might be on another train ride there ... but mine will be a much better train ride than theirs.
It is "the multiple pedophile guru program" ... hah hah! I like that ... sounds about right. Oh no! We have to be careful to select the right guru. And anyone who chooses a pure devotee as their guru ... is banned and harassed ... like me! They do not want anyone to make the actual right guru choice. This is a farce ... we want you to select the right guru ... and when you do ... then we beat you with broom sticks and kick you out the door. This is envy of the pure devotee.
Blind men leading the blind. And banning anyone who is not blind.
LW: Praghosa's guru Satsvarupa breaks up a marriage ... so he can get his grubby lusty hands on his disciple. Srila Prabhupada says that is really a pedophile problem.
ReplyDeleteAll sorts of ISKCON children are molested at their school. Another pedophile problem. Including ... victims sometimes commit suicide.
They bury a pedophile in samadhi. Infuriates victims.
They have a current pedophile guru in India. Infuriates victims. Is there anything else Praghosa's program does ... other than promote their pedophile consciousness program? Amazing ... he tells people "select your guru carefully" like me. Why? I only select the guru program that emanates pedophile consciousness.
This sounds to me like the International Society for Pedophile Guru Consciousness (ISFPGC), masquerading as ISKCON. Wow, such cheating is only possible by the mercy of Kali. Oh yea I know ... don't worship Jesus ... that is bogus ritvik idea ... and that would save you from worship of pedophiles ... and we cannot have ANY of that! Yes ... it is true ... these people are simply wallowing in pedophilia consciousness and they want you to jump in an join them! Thanks but no thanks!
HD: This is rich. Praghosa selects a sexual predator as his guru ... then he is going to advise us ... how to select our guru. You GBC people cannot select a proper guru ... but then we have to take your advice to select our guru? I think it would be better off to ask my cousin Charles ... how to select a guru ... he would know better than them. Hands down!
ReplyDeleteThis is really getting more foolish by the hour. How can the GBC tell us how to select our guru ... when they keep selecting bad people as theirs and ISKCON's gurus? And where is the respect for ISKCON ... if they keep making bad gurus for ISKCON? We love ISKCON ... which is why we want you fools to worship our bad gurus of ISKCON. This make no sense ... unless we figure out ... they hate ISKCON and they want to destroy it from within by making bad people into gurus. As they have already done.
They are even making pedophiles and fools into their gurus ... but then they insist on telling us how to select our gurus? Absolutely nonsensical. Unless ... they want to ruin our lives by giving us bad gurus ... and ruin ISKCON in the process ... and destroy many children ... as they already have done.
And to say that toddlers and young people have to select the right guru ... is another foolish idea that beggars belief. They made all sorts of children worship all sorts of bad people ... but these children are to blame ... not the people like Praghosa who crammed this rubbish into the children?
Why not just make them admit they are more or less ... the Jimmy Savile guru parampara ... and let us at least make them honest? If we want to join the Jimmy Savile guru parampara ... or not ... should be something they are making clear to us ... from the start. Finding out later is why some victims commit suicide. They need to be upfront about what they really are.
I like the idea of calling them "The Jimmy Savile Guru Parampara" ... we need to make that the new title for them and start getting other people to use it. I already told some people that was going to be their title ... and they said it sounds like a winner. "All glories to the Jimmy Savile Guru Parampara." Is that what we are down to now?
LW: It is another Jimmy Savile parampara. Many people knew about it ... AND THEY WERE SILENT. Others knew about it AND THEY WERE SILENCED. Same exact modus operandi.
ReplyDeleteIn fact ... it looks like these pedophile cults borrow technique from one another. They know what works ... in one pedophile cult ... and apply it to another. Now the GBC pedophile cult is trying to explain how pedophiles have been "spiritual" and "masters" ... when they are neither. This is further proof the GBC is total corruption. They cannot get rid of their current pedophile guru ... and they cannot get rid of their previous pedophile guru samadhi. Because ... as the Lokanath people said ... this will cause chaos and many people will leave.
Leave what? We have to worry people are going to leave a pedophile cult? Oh ... sorry ... that is what they want ISKCON to become. So now people who leave a pedophile cult are leaving ISKCON. Very clever! That is what pedophile cults do ... they confuse everything to take advantage. Same thing with Jimmy Savile's cult. If we complain about his cult ... many important people will be in trouble. So there is a conspiracy of silence ... and muzzle of those exposing. This is the Jimmy Savile guru parampara ... they borrowed their whole system ... from him.