"A SHOW CANNOT GO ON MANY DAYS. SHOW WILL BE FINISHED VERY SOON."
Srila Prabhupada:
So it is very difficult. If we lost..., if we have lost that feeling that "Here is Kṛṣṇa. Here is a chance to serve Him..." Sākṣād-dharitvena samasta-śāstraiḥ... Not that. Śrī-vigrahārādhana-nitya-nānā-śṛṅgāra-tan-mandira-mārjanādau. As soon as... Therefore we are very much vigilant, "Why you did not this? Why you do not this? Why...?" As soon as the feeling of devotional service will be lost, this temple will be a burden. This is the way.
It will be such a big temple; to manage, it will be a great burden. So they are feeling burden. Therefore they don't mind if somewhere is broken sometimes. "All right, let us, whatever money we have got, let us eat first of all." This is the position. Vigraha and galagraha. You should understand. If we forget that "Here is Kṛṣṇa personally present.
"We have to receive Him very nicely. We have to give Him nice food, nice dress, nice..." Then it is service. And as soon as the feeling comes that "Here is a stone idol"—they say sometimes "idol worship"—"and we have been instructed to dress Him, to give Him..., all botheration." Then finished. Finished.
That has come everywhere. I have seen in Nasik in many, many big temples there is no pūjārī, and the dogs are passing stool. Not only that, the buildings, they're breaking down. In Western countries also the churches are being closed—big, big churches. In London I have seen, very big, big churches, but they're closed. When there is meeting on Sunday, the caretaker, two, three men and some old lady, they come. Nobody comes.
And we are purchasing. We have purchased several churches. Because it is now useless. It is useless. In our Los Angeles we have purchased, and several others. In Toronto, that recently we have purchased. Big, big churches. But they would not sell us. One church, the priest said that "I shall set fire in this church, still I shall not give to Bhaktivedanta Swami." (laughter) This Toronto church was like that also. And in Melbourne, the condition was, sale condition was, that you have to dismantle this church building. We said, "Why?" He said, "Utilize as temple now, then we shall not give you." They refused. You know that? So they do not like that "This Kṛṣṇa consciousness movement will purchase our churches and install Rādhā-Kṛṣṇa Deity." They do not like that. But it is not going on.
So not only the churches in the Western countries; here also. As soon as you will lose the spirit of service, this temple will become a big go-down, that's all. No more temple. So we have to maintain that service spirit. Therefore we are so much particular—"Why fresh flower is not there?" If you think, "Here is a stone statue. What is the meaning of fresh flower or old flower? We have to give some flower. That's all." But no feeling, that "Here is Kṛṣṇa. We must give fresh flower." Just like I'm a living man, if you give me a fresh flower, and if you bring some garbage and if you give me, shall I be pleased? Do you think?
So this feeling is losing even in the beginning, that "We shall satisfy this statue with some rubbish, garbage flower. He's not going to protest." Yes, He'll not protest. But your life will be finished. The protest will come like that. As soon as you lost the feeling, bhāva, budhā bhāva-samanvitāḥ (BG 10.8)... Who can worship Kṛṣṇa? When there is bhāva, sthāyi-bhāva. This has been discussed in Bhakti-rasāmṛta-sindhu, what is bhāva. But if you have no bhāva, then you are on the material (indistinct), kaniṣṭha-adhikārī. Simply show. A show cannot go on many days. Show will be finished very soon.
[Excerpt from Lecture on Smd.Bhagavatam- 1.7.27 - Vrndavana, September 24, 1976]
PADA: Yes, a show of false gurus does not last, as we see from the Gaudiya Matha's disintegration and so many other examples. Now the Paramadvaiti swami / VRNDA program is having a big meltdown / split up over his apparent sexual impropriety, which should not really surprise anyone since he is part of the "Sridhara Maharaja" program that anoints conditioned souls as their acharyas.
In 1936 Sridhara Maharaja created a bi-sexual deviant acharya's imbroglio, which resulted in banning, beating and murder of dissenters. And after 1977, he co-conspired with the GBC to make more deviants into acharyas. So, its a pattern here.
A conditioned soul will also have a well known, well documented propensity for sense gratification, especially sexual gratification, whether licit or illicit. And he may tend to also take intoxicants, siphon funds, or worse he might orchestrate murders of dissenters etc. Therefore such dubious types of souls should not be elevated to the post of guru and acharya. That is very clear from the instructions of Srila Prabhupada.
So the wind is gaining more and more in the sails of us Prabhupadanugas -- because we are getting literally hundreds of more people these days to agree that the GBC's / Gaudiya Matha's guru imbroglio is a deviation, and there is a need to focus on the acharya proper. Even Bhakti Caru swami recently said everyone has to read Srila Prabhupada's books or they will have problems, ok what we said the whole time.
And thus we are getting more and more nice inquiries on these topics, including some folks from the Radhanath program who recently asked me about the Kirtanananda connection to Radhanath. Other people ask me why the GBC / Rocana / Torben / Ajit Krishna / Hanuman Croatia people keep saying worship of a pure devotee is "the bogus Christian idea," and self - apparently they still think we need to worship one of their "living" conditioned souls as acharyas. Umm, they have not recognized that their idea is -- not working -- yet?
So that is one inquiry we get, "Why do these folks say we cannot worship the posthumous, post samadhi, post mortem, resting already in the coffin dead folks, ok like KRISHNA and His ACHARYAS? What kind of religion says God and their acharyas are -- the post mortem? Good questions!
And of course we sometimes have to field questions about the bogus Prabhupadanugas, who told me its a terrible idea to stop children from being beaten and molested. Worse, these folks sat down and interviewed Bhakta das, who loves to tell us how bad the ritviks are, and how wonderful the Radhanath program is. Worse, these people told me the Radhanath program is "innocent" and should not have to pay for their crimes, apparently so they can print more Radhanath books. Anyway, these guys are also not making much progress with their process, its just the wrong thing to try to state at this point. We need more beatings and bogus books? Nope!
Overall, good questions coming in, making progress, albeit slow -- but steady. ys pd]
angel108b@yahoo.com
Srila Prabhupada:
So it is very difficult. If we lost..., if we have lost that feeling that "Here is Kṛṣṇa. Here is a chance to serve Him..." Sākṣād-dharitvena samasta-śāstraiḥ... Not that. Śrī-vigrahārādhana-nitya-nānā-śṛṅgāra-tan-mandira-mārjanādau. As soon as... Therefore we are very much vigilant, "Why you did not this? Why you do not this? Why...?" As soon as the feeling of devotional service will be lost, this temple will be a burden. This is the way.
It will be such a big temple; to manage, it will be a great burden. So they are feeling burden. Therefore they don't mind if somewhere is broken sometimes. "All right, let us, whatever money we have got, let us eat first of all." This is the position. Vigraha and galagraha. You should understand. If we forget that "Here is Kṛṣṇa personally present.
"We have to receive Him very nicely. We have to give Him nice food, nice dress, nice..." Then it is service. And as soon as the feeling comes that "Here is a stone idol"—they say sometimes "idol worship"—"and we have been instructed to dress Him, to give Him..., all botheration." Then finished. Finished.
That has come everywhere. I have seen in Nasik in many, many big temples there is no pūjārī, and the dogs are passing stool. Not only that, the buildings, they're breaking down. In Western countries also the churches are being closed—big, big churches. In London I have seen, very big, big churches, but they're closed. When there is meeting on Sunday, the caretaker, two, three men and some old lady, they come. Nobody comes.
And we are purchasing. We have purchased several churches. Because it is now useless. It is useless. In our Los Angeles we have purchased, and several others. In Toronto, that recently we have purchased. Big, big churches. But they would not sell us. One church, the priest said that "I shall set fire in this church, still I shall not give to Bhaktivedanta Swami." (laughter) This Toronto church was like that also. And in Melbourne, the condition was, sale condition was, that you have to dismantle this church building. We said, "Why?" He said, "Utilize as temple now, then we shall not give you." They refused. You know that? So they do not like that "This Kṛṣṇa consciousness movement will purchase our churches and install Rādhā-Kṛṣṇa Deity." They do not like that. But it is not going on.
So not only the churches in the Western countries; here also. As soon as you will lose the spirit of service, this temple will become a big go-down, that's all. No more temple. So we have to maintain that service spirit. Therefore we are so much particular—"Why fresh flower is not there?" If you think, "Here is a stone statue. What is the meaning of fresh flower or old flower? We have to give some flower. That's all." But no feeling, that "Here is Kṛṣṇa. We must give fresh flower." Just like I'm a living man, if you give me a fresh flower, and if you bring some garbage and if you give me, shall I be pleased? Do you think?
So this feeling is losing even in the beginning, that "We shall satisfy this statue with some rubbish, garbage flower. He's not going to protest." Yes, He'll not protest. But your life will be finished. The protest will come like that. As soon as you lost the feeling, bhāva, budhā bhāva-samanvitāḥ (BG 10.8)... Who can worship Kṛṣṇa? When there is bhāva, sthāyi-bhāva. This has been discussed in Bhakti-rasāmṛta-sindhu, what is bhāva. But if you have no bhāva, then you are on the material (indistinct), kaniṣṭha-adhikārī. Simply show. A show cannot go on many days. Show will be finished very soon.
[Excerpt from Lecture on Smd.Bhagavatam- 1.7.27 - Vrndavana, September 24, 1976]
PADA: Yes, a show of false gurus does not last, as we see from the Gaudiya Matha's disintegration and so many other examples. Now the Paramadvaiti swami / VRNDA program is having a big meltdown / split up over his apparent sexual impropriety, which should not really surprise anyone since he is part of the "Sridhara Maharaja" program that anoints conditioned souls as their acharyas.
In 1936 Sridhara Maharaja created a bi-sexual deviant acharya's imbroglio, which resulted in banning, beating and murder of dissenters. And after 1977, he co-conspired with the GBC to make more deviants into acharyas. So, its a pattern here.
A conditioned soul will also have a well known, well documented propensity for sense gratification, especially sexual gratification, whether licit or illicit. And he may tend to also take intoxicants, siphon funds, or worse he might orchestrate murders of dissenters etc. Therefore such dubious types of souls should not be elevated to the post of guru and acharya. That is very clear from the instructions of Srila Prabhupada.
So the wind is gaining more and more in the sails of us Prabhupadanugas -- because we are getting literally hundreds of more people these days to agree that the GBC's / Gaudiya Matha's guru imbroglio is a deviation, and there is a need to focus on the acharya proper. Even Bhakti Caru swami recently said everyone has to read Srila Prabhupada's books or they will have problems, ok what we said the whole time.
And thus we are getting more and more nice inquiries on these topics, including some folks from the Radhanath program who recently asked me about the Kirtanananda connection to Radhanath. Other people ask me why the GBC / Rocana / Torben / Ajit Krishna / Hanuman Croatia people keep saying worship of a pure devotee is "the bogus Christian idea," and self - apparently they still think we need to worship one of their "living" conditioned souls as acharyas. Umm, they have not recognized that their idea is -- not working -- yet?
So that is one inquiry we get, "Why do these folks say we cannot worship the posthumous, post samadhi, post mortem, resting already in the coffin dead folks, ok like KRISHNA and His ACHARYAS? What kind of religion says God and their acharyas are -- the post mortem? Good questions!
And of course we sometimes have to field questions about the bogus Prabhupadanugas, who told me its a terrible idea to stop children from being beaten and molested. Worse, these folks sat down and interviewed Bhakta das, who loves to tell us how bad the ritviks are, and how wonderful the Radhanath program is. Worse, these people told me the Radhanath program is "innocent" and should not have to pay for their crimes, apparently so they can print more Radhanath books. Anyway, these guys are also not making much progress with their process, its just the wrong thing to try to state at this point. We need more beatings and bogus books? Nope!
Overall, good questions coming in, making progress, albeit slow -- but steady. ys pd]
angel108b@yahoo.com
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