JND: Looks like someone has leaked photos of fake guru Paramadvaiti Swami with naked kids (looks like a naked five year old girl on his lap). I won't link them here, but they are there in facebook. He is another low life pedo cockroach that needs to be removed. Waiting for a brainless zombie to post "even if engaged in the most sinful acts, a devotee should be seen as saintly..." All the people who covered for him while knowing what he was doing are equally guilty. People like "Atulananda Acharya". Birds of a feather.
PADA: He was at Kirtanananda's samdhi ceremony, birds of a feather ...
RS: These folks are dangerous!
JND: More dangerous are the people that protect and cover up for these criminals.
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KN: I am shocked to see photo of Paramadvaiti with a naked little girl on his lap and none of his people have reported him to the police? I would report him myself but he does not ever land in my country, so there is nowhere here for me to report him. Why are his followers not taking him to the police and having him arrested? This is disgusting!
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PADA: Yes, good question. Of course for years we have submitted photos of the "Paramadvaiti swami hugging younger women" program, ok at least they are not five years old, but its still exploiting. Since they are his dependents, and he is like their spiritual father, he is exploiting them. OK he was having full on encounters with some of them, and yes that is a form of incest according to Srila Prabhupada, when the guru exploits the followers, its like incest.
And there are many photos of Indradyumna sort of embracing VERY younger girls which we also posted from time to time. Lets face it, there is a lot of sympathy for these guys and that is why Paramadvaiti is welcome at ISKCON and we are not.
All this type thing was already going on in the Gaudiya Matha, they had so-called gurus, and they were having affairs, sometimes homsexual affairs and so forth. Exploiting for money, sex, followers and who knows what else.
So we went after the whole lot of them, ISKCON's and Gaudiya Matha's sexual exploiters posing as gurus. The only reason they are getting away with all this is: that there are a lot of sentimental people who think all these people are saints, and they cover for that process. Even Bhakta das told me I was an offender for opposing his going over to the Gaudiya Matha, and for my attacking GBC's gurus like Radhanath / Trivrikrama swami etc. (program that invites Paramadvaiti over for association)?
And how did you guess, along comes the Panacali / Krishna Kirtan / Janardan / Sanat / Mukunda / Prahald / Dayalu Nitai's HKC Jaipur folks and they complain, why on earth is PADA objecting to our favorite pedophile messiah's club, which has been starving, beating and molesting children -- and having them worship pedophiles as their messiahs?
And then they make a video with Bhakta das to defend their pedophile pooja process, then they (includes HKC Jaipur folks) send me the link to that video. And thinking what, that I am now going to surrender to the bogus GBC's idea that pedophiles are messiahs from God's kingdom, and they should not be opposed? JND is correct, these cover up folks are more dangerous than the perps themselves, they keep the process going.
OK, well shastra is very clear, there are those who promote worship pure devotees, and they have one destination, and then there are those who promote the worship of sexual exploiters and they have another destination. This is all very clear in shastra and does not need repeating here.
In any case, we are in TOTAL favor of having this guy reported to the police. If anyone has some way of doing that, they should. And if any of this situation is being brought forward more, with the authorities or among his own followers, we'd like a report. Please send us further details of how this goes. We hope there are some favorable updates, i.e. he has been reported to the police. ys pd
angel108b@yaohoo.com
Agreed prabhu:
Kirtanananda also should have been reported to the police for agressing boys in his motorhome and etc. Same thing, Kirtanananda was agressing boys and this was not reported to the police ...and those of us who objected were being banned, and shot ...
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KN: I am shocked to see photo of Paramadvaiti with a naked little girl on his lap and none of his people have reported him to the police? I would report him myself but he does not ever land in my country, so there is nowhere here for me to report him. Why are his followers not taking him to the police and having him arrested? This is disgusting!
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PADA: Yes, good question. Of course for years we have submitted photos of the "Paramadvaiti swami hugging younger women" program, ok at least they are not five years old, but its still exploiting. Since they are his dependents, and he is like their spiritual father, he is exploiting them. OK he was having full on encounters with some of them, and yes that is a form of incest according to Srila Prabhupada, when the guru exploits the followers, its like incest.
And there are many photos of Indradyumna sort of embracing VERY younger girls which we also posted from time to time. Lets face it, there is a lot of sympathy for these guys and that is why Paramadvaiti is welcome at ISKCON and we are not.
All this type thing was already going on in the Gaudiya Matha, they had so-called gurus, and they were having affairs, sometimes homsexual affairs and so forth. Exploiting for money, sex, followers and who knows what else.
So we went after the whole lot of them, ISKCON's and Gaudiya Matha's sexual exploiters posing as gurus. The only reason they are getting away with all this is: that there are a lot of sentimental people who think all these people are saints, and they cover for that process. Even Bhakta das told me I was an offender for opposing his going over to the Gaudiya Matha, and for my attacking GBC's gurus like Radhanath / Trivrikrama swami etc. (program that invites Paramadvaiti over for association)?
And how did you guess, along comes the Panacali / Krishna Kirtan / Janardan / Sanat / Mukunda / Prahald / Dayalu Nitai's HKC Jaipur folks and they complain, why on earth is PADA objecting to our favorite pedophile messiah's club, which has been starving, beating and molesting children -- and having them worship pedophiles as their messiahs?
And then they make a video with Bhakta das to defend their pedophile pooja process, then they (includes HKC Jaipur folks) send me the link to that video. And thinking what, that I am now going to surrender to the bogus GBC's idea that pedophiles are messiahs from God's kingdom, and they should not be opposed? JND is correct, these cover up folks are more dangerous than the perps themselves, they keep the process going.
OK, well shastra is very clear, there are those who promote worship pure devotees, and they have one destination, and then there are those who promote the worship of sexual exploiters and they have another destination. This is all very clear in shastra and does not need repeating here.
In any case, we are in TOTAL favor of having this guy reported to the police. If anyone has some way of doing that, they should. And if any of this situation is being brought forward more, with the authorities or among his own followers, we'd like a report. Please send us further details of how this goes. We hope there are some favorable updates, i.e. he has been reported to the police. ys pd
angel108b@yaohoo.com
The Bhakta Das / Radhanath lovers club
Agreed prabhu:
Kirtanananda also should have been reported to the police for agressing boys in his motorhome and etc. Same thing, Kirtanananda was agressing boys and this was not reported to the police ...and those of us who objected were being banned, and shot ...
NP: The reason no one has reported all the corruption in VRNDA to the police? I believe its that they fear being attacked by the fanatics who think he is a pure devotee. The devotees everywhere are more like Barney Fife and not Dirty Harry, so they let a lot of bogus things go on, mainly because they are fearful.
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PADA: I agree prabhu. Well stated. Anyway, since it appears that children have been / are being / victimized, I hope someone realizes this is an emergency and they take the proper steps to have this rectified -- at least to start -- by being investigated by the authorities. Such activities with little children can create horrific long term results, and mess up their entire lives. Similar results were seen with the child abuse in GBC ISKCON.
And thus we hope someone will stop playing Barney Fife and put their Dirty Harry suit on, and do the needful. Almost none of this can happen in ordinary life, it happens mainly in bogus guru cults because in the regular world there is less fear to go after an abuser. I also think its part of what Srila Prabhupada warns about, a false guru "will eventually become degraded." So a lot of this is just the sum total result of having false guru cults, it may cause people to degrade way worse than they would have if they have never heard of religion. That's why the Isopanisad says, its better that a false guru had never even heard of the Vedas, he will go to worse hells than the ordinary man. And now we know why, because he degrades worse than the ordinary man. And the only good result of all this is, its a lesson for people not to accept hokey gurus, the bad result is, the victims will be facing a lifetime of problems. ys pd
There is still little or no place for most of the ex-kulis in the ISKCON society, and worse, the people who orchestrated all the victimization are still in charge. There are maybe hundreds of ex-kulis in the LA and Bay area, they basically boycott ISKCON. The issue has not been resolved, its still the same old same old. Incidently, one of the people who often hangs out with the GBC is Paramadvaiti, who was allegedly caught photographed with a naked young girl on his lap, and one of his ex-followers wrote to tell me, a lot of people know about this type stuff but they are afraid to speak out. This is the real issue for a lot of these people, there is corruption in their own church house so they are not too interested in the entire USA policies being corrupt. In sum, ISKCON is not habitable for a lot of ex-youth and current youth who know about all this. And that is why some people now are going to Siddhaswarupa, Narayan or whatever else they can, the ISKCON society is not suitable for them and to a large degree, its hard to logically disagree with them since its not habitable for me either. ys pd
ReplyDeleteYes, an anonymous person from the Paramadvaiti program told me, no one wants to speak up because they are fearful of the fanatics. Its very sad when Vaishnavas are not able to understand the duty of a devotee is to fight for justice and become like another Arjuna, and instead they become complicit in a conspiracy of silence to allow all these deviations. And then the victims will think the religion is to blame, and this creates enemies ot the faith. Yep, we have to call a spade a spade, or become implicated like the Kauravas who were silent when Draupadi was assaulted. Same thing goes on in ISKCON, the guru is having illicit sex, and no one wants to speak out, a conspiracy of silence, and the victimizing just gets worse. ys pd
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