PADA: Thanks prabhu, yes Sulochana said anyone who is trying to hinder our protest of the molester agenda is aiding and abetting the evil doers. And thanks to people who tried to shut down our opposition to the molesting agenda, like various GBC / Radhanath / Kirtanananda / Sanat / Mukunda / Prahlad / HKC Jaipur and their Bhakta das type help mates, therefore: the problems of deviants posing as big authorities and their gangster allies has not been resolved.
Yes, all of the people who opposed our efforts to clean this up are co-conspirators in keeping the deviants in power over the ISKCON society. And New Vrndavana was getting gangsters like Tirtha to do their criminal dirty work, and Mayapura was getting goondas to do their dirty work, and Hansadutta was doing same etc. they are birds of a feather as Sulochana used to say. And Sulochana also said -- that is the real reason people are trying to chop our protest legs off, so this agenda will stay in power. Well it looks like its a little too late to save this agenda, this agenda is getting exposed more each minute ... the Windle Turley lawsuit was only the opening salvo. ys pd
We are not really singling out Prahlad per se, he simply represents the agenda. The result of people like Prahlad chopping off the protest to the predator and criminal regime (and propping up its cheer leaders like Bhakta das):
PADA: I did not really "put together" the court case all myself. Pratyatosa contacted Turley and he agreed to take the case. I then helped by recruiting victims to sign up, altogether about 2,000 wanted to sign up. Turley wanted $1,000,000 for each victim so he cut it down to 500 thinking ISKCON could not pay $200M. Of course if there are 4,000 kids and 2,000 are supposedly victims, that is 50 percent victims.
Yes, all of the people who opposed our efforts to clean this up are co-conspirators in keeping the deviants in power over the ISKCON society. And New Vrndavana was getting gangsters like Tirtha to do their criminal dirty work, and Mayapura was getting goondas to do their dirty work, and Hansadutta was doing same etc. they are birds of a feather as Sulochana used to say. And Sulochana also said -- that is the real reason people are trying to chop our protest legs off, so this agenda will stay in power. Well it looks like its a little too late to save this agenda, this agenda is getting exposed more each minute ... the Windle Turley lawsuit was only the opening salvo. ys pd
We are not really singling out Prahlad per se, he simply represents the agenda. The result of people like Prahlad chopping off the protest to the predator and criminal regime (and propping up its cheer leaders like Bhakta das):
PADA: I did not really "put together" the court case all myself. Pratyatosa contacted Turley and he agreed to take the case. I then helped by recruiting victims to sign up, altogether about 2,000 wanted to sign up. Turley wanted $1,000,000 for each victim so he cut it down to 500 thinking ISKCON could not pay $200M. Of course if there are 4,000 kids and 2,000 are supposedly victims, that is 50 percent victims.
The main purpose of the case was to curb the ongoing suicide epidemic, which was getting worse at the time, and would have eventually been a New York Times story, "Krishna kids suicide epidemic." And at the same time, the case alarmed many parents, and so several hundred kids were suddenly yanked out of GBC hands.
I told Sanat that bad media would be the result of allowing the suicides and he said, so what? Sanat was well aware of molesting himself, his wife knew that was going on in her school (he and she told me that) and they did not go to the police. And Sanat was like thousands of others who knew about abuse and did not go to the police, so there was a conspiracy of silence and that was broken by the court case, which is why the suicides dropped, the victims now felt validated.
Many victims wrote to thank me, for example a 13 year old girl who was going to be married to a 50 year old man, and she said her life was saved. And many other suicidal people told me the same thing. Hence, the people who wanted the abuse and suicides to continue and not have us fix that are part of the whole regime, from the victim's point of view.
The person who actually said that the people who wanted the children victimization to continue is "like putting children into a wood chipper" was Sulochana das, and not me. I quoted him but was mistaken to be the original author. The Bhakta das and Naranarya videos (against PADA) were made by Sanat's helper Muktipada, and posted by Mukunda, although Muktipada later wrote to tell me Sanat had stolen from him and so forth and he apologized for helping Sanat attack me. Muktipada told me Sanat exploiting him was worse than the GBC because Sanat was posing as a reformer.
Sanat's wife was in charge of Satsvarupa's guru school (not Dallas) where she told me every SINGLE child was abused. Sanat was informed of this abuse and neither he or his wife went to the police. They told me that the perps were minors, and that is why they were not reported. In other words, they covered it up. The age or the perps is not the issue, the leaders aka Satsvarupa should have been reported to the police. Sanat was at the time a disciple of SDG, and perhaps that is why it was covered up at the time. However, as far as I know Sanat never went to the police subsequently to report this. That Prahlad das UK does not know Sanat was a disciple of SDG and his wife was a teacher, and that all of the kids in that school were abused, was not known to Prahlad -- because he never reads my stuff or asks me about these issues.
Sanat's wife was in charge of Satsvarupa's guru school (not Dallas) where she told me every SINGLE child was abused. Sanat was informed of this abuse and neither he or his wife went to the police. They told me that the perps were minors, and that is why they were not reported. In other words, they covered it up. The age or the perps is not the issue, the leaders aka Satsvarupa should have been reported to the police. Sanat was at the time a disciple of SDG, and perhaps that is why it was covered up at the time. However, as far as I know Sanat never went to the police subsequently to report this. That Prahlad das UK does not know Sanat was a disciple of SDG and his wife was a teacher, and that all of the kids in that school were abused, was not known to Prahlad -- because he never reads my stuff or asks me about these issues.
Prahlad Das here: PADA put-together the court case in 1997, not 1977. My bad.
KD: IMPORTANT CLARIFICATION: When I said: "I do not agree with what the Sanat letter says" I was strictly referring to the letter by Sanat involving violent language. I was NOT referring to the court case itself, only Sanat's obviously crazed wording in his letters and ALSO Prabhupada being blamed in the WORDING OF the other court case letter as well. We all agree that it is very good that the court case happened.
KD: IMPORTANT CLARIFICATION: When I said: "I do not agree with what the Sanat letter says" I was strictly referring to the letter by Sanat involving violent language. I was NOT referring to the court case itself, only Sanat's obviously crazed wording in his letters and ALSO Prabhupada being blamed in the WORDING OF the other court case letter as well. We all agree that it is very good that the court case happened.
Many of us are simply disturbed at how poorly the case was worded in reference to Prabhupada directly. That's All. We DO agree with the court case having happened and the abusers being exposed however. Please take note of this and do not assume things. We simply see that the wording could have been done much better. As far as I have heard the bad wording in all cases here was also directly related to Sanat. That's all I have heard so far.
PADA: So that explains why the children were angry with the religion. Sanat and his wife were teaching these children (A) that SDG is their guru and (B) Prabhupada wanted them to be in that school etc. And then they were abused and Sanat did not report the abuse, creating the impression (C) that this is "what Srila Prabhupada wanted."
As for Mukunda's site with the Illuminati Zionist bankers complaints, Prahlad told me this site was good because "its getting a lot of hits." Not sure why the Illuminati program and the Nazi program (both contain Zionism attacks) are that much different?
It also does not appear that Prahlad is explaining -- if the hundreds of children who were pulled from these schools were not pulled -- and they would have remained in GBC hands (resulting in potential abuse and even cases of suicides) -- why did Prahlad think that was a good outcome? We said Prahlad wanted the children to be abused, because he opposed our saving them from being abused? Is there a better explanation?
Neither has Prahlad explained why he got the HKC folks to promote the Bhakta das video (which was on Mukunda's site)? Prahlad got the HKC folks to send me the link to Bhakta das. Now Prahlad does not know Bhakta is (a GBC promoter)? Then why is he promoting a person who is against the ritviks and is pro-Radhanath? Yes PADA has posted music videos of Christian Christmas songs, kirtans from various camps, groups and gurus including some GBC following kirtaneers, but we most of our readers have enough common sense to know we are not in agreement with their siddhanta. ys pd
KD: Thanks (PADA) for the clarification.
Prahlad: Any evidence of Sanat covering-up abuse? Thought not. Keep it up...
PADA: Sanat's wife Linda Voight told me herself she was a teacher in Satsvarupa's school, and she said there was abuse going on, and Sanat confirmed that they knew abuse was going on, and they told me, they did not take it to the police. Is there any evidence Linda Voight was not a teacher there, or that Sanat was not an SDG groupie at the time the abuse was going on (when he admits he was)?
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Prahlad: Any evidence of Sanat covering-up abuse? Thought not. Keep it up...
PADA: Sanat's wife Linda Voight told me herself she was a teacher in Satsvarupa's school, and she said there was abuse going on, and Sanat confirmed that they knew abuse was going on, and they told me, they did not take it to the police. Is there any evidence Linda Voight was not a teacher there, or that Sanat was not an SDG groupie at the time the abuse was going on (when he admits he was)?
If someone knows abuse is going on and its not reported, that is covering up. Nothing new here, so many others were doing the same thing in ISKCON, which is why we had to take it outside. Also we have a photo from Mukunda's site giving the names of Illuminati people, he made that site himself, just like he is making Hitler ones now on his site.
And no, Sanat was nowhere to be found when we went out with a poison sign in 1997 at the LA Rathayatra. He was not there, and there are hundreds of people who saw me there with a sign, not him. And we also had the poison tape being copied and distributed from LA, and everyone told me they had seen or heard of it before they got it from me. If you had the tape and were not distributing it, that is called cover up. ys pd
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Wow! Yes, a few of our blog readers find it amazing that Prahlad now says that "its news to me" that Sanat's wife was a teacher in SDG's school, where "every single child was molested" and this was not reported to the police by Sanat or his wife. Why doesn't Prahlad just read our sites, then he would have known all this a long time ago? As for Bhakta Peter, he told me Mukunda is "Bat sh** Crazy." And then Sanat is called the same by his former follower Muktipada. What kind of leadership is this ship making as its captains? And Bhakta Peter also told me -- he agrees we had to liberate these hundreds of children from abuse, and halt the suicides. He agrees that is the right action to take, and he made a video with me discussing all this stuff. Prahlad does not know about any of this -- because he is not reading about these issues? Yes, Bhakta Peter says we had to save these children, and he agreed with that -- a long time ago? So this means Prahlad told HKC Jaipura a huge pile of mis-information and got them all hysterical over -- fake news. ys pd
ReplyDeleteInteresting that Prahlad said the only result of the lawsuit was that innocent people were going to have to pay a lot of money. OK people who are supporting a sexual predator school program are not innocent. Notice however, the result of saving hundreds of kids from GBC hands and halting suicides -- is not mentioned? The shekel counting is the main thing mentioned? Same thing GBC people told me for years, what about our precious shekels? OK you can save your shekels, and we will save people. ys pd
ReplyDeleteYes, Bhakta das was arrested for selling around $8,000,000 designer drugs in USA, then he fled the country when out on bail and went to hide in Jagannath Puri, where he was arrested for some sort of sex crime. The FBI was the agency that extradited him out of the Puri jail after a few years to go back to face charges. Designer drugs are very dangerous and can cause madness, crimes, birth defects, spontaneous abortion and etc. Not sure why anyone would want to make this person their spokesman? Bhakta then became a big supporter of the GBC's folks, like Trivrikrama, Radhanatha and so forth. Then Sanat's follower "Muktipada" made a video with Bhakta das attacking me, and this was placed on Mukunda UK's site and was advertised by them and by Prahlad. So they were openly advertising the biggest cheer leader of the GBC's guru program, and a known criminal. I cannot repeat what some victims say about this lot, but they think there is an agenda among the Sanat / Mukunda / Prahlad folks to try to justify the Radhanath program where abuse was going on, and that is why they have a track record of promoting cheer leaders of Radhanath's program. Then Prahlad went to Jaipur and got a number of them to send me the link to their Bhakta das video, promoting the Radhanath's cheer leader's process and telling me I need to listen to their designer drugs-pada authority. So yes, it was self evident they were now compromised with the GBC agenda, which is what a number of victims confirmed to me. Prahlad now says, he has no idea who was posting that video. He has no idea who Muktipada, Sanat and Mukunda are? Meanwhile, Prahlad says he did not even know that Sanat's wife was a teacher in the GBC / Satsvarupa school where she told me, every kid was molested. Prahlad does not seem to have taken any trouble to study these issues. Then he says these issues were all in the form of private e-mails that were never public. Except, Prahlad takes these so-called private e-mails attacking other people's family members and posts them on his site STILL THERE TODAY, for public viewing. He makes these so-called private exchanges public, and Mukunda was doing the same thing. They cannot remember doing that, when they are doing that today and right now? ys pd
ReplyDeleteNo Prahlad is wrong, he has not kept these private e-mails off the net? Rather Prahlad takes these private e-mails attacking other people's family members and he has them posted on his site even today. Making some of his victims cry. Prahlad says there is no evidence he is causing stress to children, but I have personally seen them cry looking at his posts. Of course some of Prahlad's children victims are also now Vedic scholars, and so one of his victims said -- Prahlad is another Aswatthama, he attacks the children of his opponents. Thus one of the victims sent me this quote: "As a punishment, Ashwatthama was asked to surrender the gem on his forehead. Krishna then cursed Ashwatthama for 3000 years that he will roam in the forests with blood and puss oozing out of his injuries and cry for death. Since he had no fear of death during war, death would not meet him." Yep, even some of Prahlad's victims seem to have a better grasp of the Vedas than he does. ys pd
ReplyDeleteYes, Pratyatosa still says Urmila is a great person, but she was part of the gurukula management. Pratyatosa does not get it all either, but we never said he did. Yet, he helped get hundreds of victims pulled out of GBC management and schools and helped stop the suicides, and no one else did that to the extent he did, so he gets the credit because he did what had to be done at the time. A blind uncle is better than none. Sanat was in favor of us not helping get these children out of the abuse and suicide state, which is why some victims told me -- at least Windle Turley saved us from people like Sanat, -- we lived in Turley's hands but we would be dead in Sanat's hands. Yep, when Windle Turley has to save your society's children from you, its bad. Clearly those children are correct, in Sanat's hands they would have been abused and maybe dead, so Windle Turley had to snatch those kids out of Sanat's hands to save them. And Pratyatosa did some help in this, so he gets credit for saving them from the Sanat program of abuse and death. Of course, our neighbor's dog had some puppies and even this dog knows, its duty is to protect her children from predators, because this dog has God given sense. ys pd
ReplyDeleteA ex-gurukuli just told me Mayapura is developing as a pedophile retirement center. Summing up our conversation: And he wonders, why does Prahlad keep saying that the people funding, orchestrating and making this pedophile retirement center program are "the innocent ones"? And he said, if temples that are worshiping sexual abusers as their gurus are being closed, and that is saving hundreds or thousands of more children from worshiping sexual predators as their gurus, isn't that the best thing for planet earth that ever happened? This gurukuli is baffled, you mean Prahlad wanted us to continue their program of worship of sexual predators as our gurus? And now Prahlad is crying because his program of sexual predator worship by us has been being shut down closed? Why has Prahlad wanted us children to worship sexual predators as Krishna's successors in the first place, and now he is crying when their process is being halted? And why does Prahlad think the people making sexual predator retirement centers are "the innocent ones," which is enabling and empowering their program all along? And this kuli agreed that because of Mukunda wanting us to worship sexual predators as our gurus, that is why he ended up worshiping Hitler as his guru, its the result of his offenses of trying to protect the sexual predator worship program. Yep, this kuli says that making the supporters of the worship of sexual predators "innocent" is how people like Prahlad created this whole mess in the first place, its trying to justify the entire process. Its not innocent in any way, shape or form, and everyone who protects it is a co-member of the conspiracy. Of course this kuli also complains, Prahlad never seems to ask us victims what happened to us, nor does he seem to care one iota, i.e. he is one of them. We also discussed that if so-called religious parents are determined to have their children in a dangerous critical welfare situation, due to neglect and malfeasance, and this was starting to look like a pattern, then would not the state eventually start to legally confiscate those children and make them wards of the state? That would have really been a happy ending for all this? "Court hearings in the historic Texas polygamist child custody case have resumed, with cases going on in five courtrooms. Texas child welfare officials removed more than 400 children from a polygamist ranch in April and made them wards of the state." ys pd
ReplyDeleteYes prabhu, HKC Jaipur's thug Prahlad said he is no longer working with Hitler-pada Mukunda, but then he turns around and publishes an article -- penned by Mukunda. He does not seem to be too interested in the facts.
ReplyDeleteMeanwhile all sorts of devotees, including Gaudiya Matha folks, write to complain to me on a regular basis that the HKC Jaipur's thug Prahlad and / or his shiksha guru Mukunda's Hitler-anuga program is simply designed to GIVE KRISHNA A BAD NAME by linking Hitler to Krishna. Why do these people dedicate their lives to upsetting hundreds of devotees and giving Krishna a bad name?
Ask them! ys pd angel108b@yahoo.com
PS: I saw how one of Mukunda's people got into a discussion with a Jewish lady, who is not a devotee, but that is what she said -- "you people are more racist and bodily conscious than us average citizens." She is right. ys pd