Dayalu Nitai's HKC Jaipur Writes PADA

Saturday, 9 February 2019

STATEMENT BY HKC JAIPUR re PADA (Feb. 2019)

Hare Krishna to all the devotees.
All glories to Srila Prabhupada.

For the last 15 years Hare Krishna Community Jaipur have been serving and preaching as per the instructions of His Divine Grace A.C. Bhaktivedanta Swami Prabhupada. We are successfully running a farm community project (Hare Krishna Village) where we have natural farming, Goshala, Gurukula and a temple. We are also running many successful preaching centres in the city of Jaipur and there are good numbers of students and congregational devotees associated with us. We have also had success preaching in the villages around Jaipur.

Here at HKC Jaipur we accept Srila Prabhupada as the only Diksha guru. We read and distribute Srila Prabhupada’s original books, and devotees here are listening to Srila Prabhupada’s audio recordings throughout the day.

We strongly deny and condemn all the baseless allegations made against devotees of our community by PADA over the last 5 years. Whatever PADA is writing against devotees of HKC is totally false. We do not know who is Bhakta Dasa, what to speak of being his followers. We have no connection with ISKCON GBC or any self-appointed guru. We do not promote any ISKCON guru’s programs and we have never, ever threatened PADA as he keeps saying we have. He even accuses us of involvement in events that took place many years before HKC Jaipur even existed.

Prahlad Das has visited our community a few times as a guest but has no position here. He is not "our senior man" as PADA says, and as far as we know, whatever PADA is writing about Prahlad Das is also false. We have seen no evidence to suggest there is truth in any of it. We are completely focused on our various preaching activities, and imposing such allegations on us is just a desperate and foolish attempt to malign the image of our Hare Krishna Community.

PADA started writing all these falsehoods against us in 2014 after we published articles online about the deviations of ISKCON Bangalore and their misconduct here in Jaipur. To know more about us and our projects, you can visit www.harekrishnacommunity.org

Thank you, Hari Bol,
HKC Jaipur Devotees

[PADA: Thanks Dayalu Nitai. 

Yep, no kidding. Almost everyone said we are big fat liars at the start of all this in 1978, and you guys are still carrying the water for that agenda. Great! And when all the banning, beating, molesting, lawsuits and murders were going on, we were "offenders" and liars for even bringing up these topics -- and trying to curb these crimes. Sorry you folks did say Prahlad is your senior man, and leaders of the HKC were telling me to listen to a video of Bhakta das (a GBC defender).

Your folks agenda of saying we are liars is what has enabled all these crimes to go on the whole time. Victims tell me this all the time: They are being victimized; PADA is trying to bring their problems to people's attention; PADA is then being called a liar; Then the victimization continues. OK victims tell me, you suppressors are the hand maidens of the problems. I tend to agree. Never mind me, even the police said to me that ALL of the people suppressing us are complicit in the resulting crimes. 

And thus later on it was the police, FBI, media and so on, that believed us -- even when most devotees (like you and your other GBC clones) did not. Yep, the police know that banning, beating, molesting and murders are not something we should allow, nor is it something that should be covered up by calling it lies. Calling our complaints "lies" is what enables the deviations (including child molesting).

At the same time, your pal Prahlad recently says the people who are preaching to little children that God's successors are deviants, sexual predators, drunkards and criminals are "the innocent." But even a "karmi" lady tells me this is criminally corrupting the morals of minors -- to say deviants are God's successors. Why do these "karmi" people get it immediately, and you folks never do -- and for decades? And why does Prahlad support criminally corrupting the morals of minors as innocent behavior? 

And HKC Jaipur is with him on this issue?

Prahlad's saying that the criminal people causing all this molesting are innocent, makes Prabhupada guilty de facto. Prahlad's people saying the victimizers are the innocent is how Prabhupada became blamed by the victims in the first place.
Well, there is good news here! Many devotees are NOW finally starting to wake up and say, "hey maybe PADA was right all along, and evidently, there has been a lot of banning, beating, molesting, lawsuits and murders going on after all"! Maybe all this is not "PADA lies." Ya think so pilgrims? 

And that means, we did the right thing going after you guys who suppressed us all along by getting help from the police, FBI, media etc. The "karmis" have had to go after you guys who wanted to suppress us. They had to do the job of exposing all this for you, and in the process expose all of you folks who suppressed us as co-complicit with the regime, and they did. The cat is out of the bag now, and your efforts to suppress us are simply no longer going to work. 

Yes, many victims told me that in the hands of Windle Turley there were hundreds of them pulled out of GBC schools and the suicides were reduced to almost nil. Whereas in the hands of the GBC and people like Prahlad and his molester cover up pals like Sanat, we would have had more of us getting molested and having suicides. That means we are better off in the hands of the demons than the GBC and their hand maidens like Prahlad etc. Why do victims tell me they think the karmis are their well wishers and the GBC / Prahlad folks wanted them to be molested and die? 

My attitude was, we have to stop the abuse and suicides, and many victims told me, you are the main devotee in the Krishna religion who would have helped us. And Sanat said that not enough kids had committed suicide yet. And recently Prahlad was crying that we were picking on poor Sanat, the person who is "waiting" for enough dead bodies to appear on his doorstep before he finally says, that is enough. How many dead bodies is enough for these people?

The Prahlad team are "waiting" for buckets, rivers and then finally oceans of children's blood ... which is why some victims told me, these people like Prahlad wanted to drink more of our blood. And yes, because people like GBC / Prahlad regime wanted to see more blood, the children developed a bad attitude towards the religion. No kidding!

Even a few days ago Prahlad said that the people who are preaching to children that molesters are God's successors are the "innocent." Yep, he thinks that telling children to worship deviants is innocent. And that means, he still has no idea why these children became so messed up. Why does Prahlad still say that the members of the molester regime are innocent, even now? And how would that not mess up children, telling them members of a molester regime are innocent? ys pd 

Are post-1977 ISKCON people INNOCENT?

https://youtu.be/Gdekbhl4nfs


ys pd

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PS: This is our recent reply to Prahlad on this issue:

We have already explained in detail that the HKC Jaipur people had been the same people promoting the Bhakta das video, this is old news already. Anyway! Many victims thanked me just for helping save them by being removed from GBC's "guru" schools managed by the GBC regime's hands. Many others thanked me for helping save them from being abused further. Some of the female victims thanked me for helping getting them yanked out of places where they were 13 years old and going to be married to much older men. 

Other victims said my efforts saved them from suicide. Yep, saving helpless devotee youth from molesting and death, this is not good idea at all for you guys is it? Why is saving children from molesting and death not a good result?

Which is why many victims tell me -- they think you guys are part of the victimizer's party agenda. And your guys connection to Bhakta das seemed to confirm that to some victims. Its generally the case that the victims can identify the victimizer party better than anyone else, and they tell me the people who suppress our efforts are in that victimizer party direct or de facto. Police told me the same thing, the people suppressing you are enabling and helping the criminal process to continue.

So I am saying there is a victimizing process, you are saying I am a liar, you are then seen as co-victimizers by victims. Of course that is because when I am saying they are victims, and you are saying its a lie, you are attacking the victims, not me. I am simply relaying THEIR message.

I for one believe these victimized people -- much more than we believe HKC folks -- or anyone else. HKC Jaipur people attacked PADA for our effort at saving these people, and they promoted GBC groupie Bhakta das' video. And the GBC said we were liars for bringing these things up too, and it seems HKC are their self evident dedicated parrots. Therefore victims have told me it is self-evident you folks are all on the same side -- of the victimizer regime. That is the impression you have been creating among various victims.

I am currently helping with the writing of yet another big ISKCON History book on this issue, and I am consulted over and over on these things (and not Prahlad) because his information is -- not trusted. Writers ask me for my account of events, and trust my account, but they do not ask for or trust Prahlad's version -- for a reason. 

To sum, HKC Jaipur folks promoted the Bhakta das video, and they promoted the person promoting that video aka Prahlad. Bhakta das is a GBC groupie, plain and simple. Anyway our explaining this process in a video is making the rounds now. 

Finally, various people are asking me why -- if the Windle Turley lawsuit is so bad -- does Prahlad copy and paste its contents all over the internet for the viewing of the general public? Prahlad is clearly the main person who loves to advertise and promote the contents of the Turley case more than anyone else on the planet, while claiming he is against having this known and advertised? He is fighting his own shadow?  

ys pd 

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