[PADA: The Gaudiya Matha folks, ok like Sridhara Maharaja, Narayana Maharaja, Tripurari swami, Jagat Guru swami and similar others-- all preach a similar idea, there is no real way of describing how the jeeva souls originally fall down. Even Gaura Govinda Maharaja hitched his wagon to this parade. One thing they all agree upon for sure, the fallen jeeva souls were not with Krishna originally. Ooops, but Srila Prabhupada says we all originated in Krishna's leela or sport.
Here we see a follower of Narayana Maharaja, named Prem Prayojana, saying that the fall of the soul is inconceivable. OK, we just sort of happenstance into the material ocean? This is of course how the mayavadas talk all the time, "this is inconceivable, that is inconceivable," and all these universes full of fallen souls are sort of happening for some unknown cause or reason.
What is the actual cause of the fall of the jeeva? They don't know, and they'll tell us they do not know. Ooops, but Srila Prabhupada says there is a good reason we fell here, and its very simple, we were once part of the regular Vaikuntha society, we broke the laws of that society -- mainly we became envious of Krishna -- and we wanted to enjoy separate from Him, so we had to go to Krishna's jail (the material world).
Srila Prabhupada says this process is just like the mundane USA society: People can live in the regular society, but when they break the law, then they have to go to prison. So we were living with Krishna, we broke the "house rules" and we wanted to be separate and independent of Krishna, so we had to fall to here. Why is this process inconceivable?
And one of the people who is involved with these folks is trying to tell us that these fallen souls are originally all coming from Maha Vishnu, and we originated in a sleep state within the body of Maha Vishnu. Nope. Srila Prabhupada says that Maha Vishnu is in charge of the RASCAL fallen souls. How come these guys think that we started out at birth, as rascals? That means Krishna made these rascal souls at their birth and origin, so He is the source of evil souls? Krishna is making evil babies, at their birth and original status?
Nope! Krishna makes all souls pure and originated with Him, but some later on CHOOSE to become independent. Anyway, this is the problem with these folks, they seem to have no clear idea of even the most basic points of the siddhanta. ys pd]