Friday, May 6, 2016

How Rupanuga Destroyed ISKCON

There was a fire in the matha

From a recent lecture by Rupanuga Prabhu (ACBSP)

Srila Prabhupada did appoint eleven madhyama-adhikaris to become diksa gurus. There’s no question about it. I was there when it happened. I’ve got the dialogue, I’ve got the CD, I’ve got them written and they match perfectly. I was there when it came down. I signed off as one of the eighteen GBC men.

[PADA: Srila Prabhupada appointed 11 diksha gurus? If he did, where is the evidence? And notice that the first thing out of Rupanuga's mouth is -- another -- bold faced untruth. He says the GBC has claimed that the "appointed 11 gurus" are all "madhyama adhikari." Nope! The GBC had said these 11 are full blown uttama adhikari parampara members, i,e, Vishnupada, Tirthapada, Acharyapada, Gurupada -- meaning they are themselves "assisting the gopis" acharyas: nikunja yuno rati keli siddha.   

And since the Vishnupada acharyas can "absorb sins like Jesus," this means Rupanga has simply been in a big time illusion thinking someone like Kirtanananda is another Jesus-like person who can absorb sins, that's all. And now Rupanuga's program has buried Kirtanananda in a "samadhi." Apparently people who mediate on homosexual affairs are in samadhi. What kind of samadhi are Rupanuga's gurus experiencing?  

And! When did Srila Prabhupada say ANY of his followers are capable of being "sin absorbing diksha gurus" -- like Jesus is doing -- at all? Didn't he say the EXACT opposite, that if his followers artificially attempted to become diksha gurus and absorb sins, they will get sick, fall down, or both, due to being unqualified to absorb such sins? 

Why does Rupanuga insist that neophytes can absorb sins as diksha gurus, when he sees plainly that his alleged acharyas are getting sick -- and falling down -- left, right and center? He is herding all these people off a cliff to oblivion, and he is proud of that achievement? Rupanuga clearly thinks he knows better than the acharya, and he can thus recommend neophytes to act as diksha gurus when we are ALL ordered NOT to do this, and in fact there are SEVERE reactions for violating this injunction. 

And out of Rupanuga's magic 11 alleged sin-absorbing messiahs, ALL of them either fell down OR became very sickly from taking sins (other's karma) without authority; or else they fell down AND became very sickly simultaneously. Jayadvaita sums up Rupanuga's "madhyama guru parampara" in that -- they are often "engaged in illicit sex with men, women and possibly children as well." Rupanuga has no idea that debauchees -- are not God's successor gurus -- ever?   

What's next? They are going to "make advancement" and -- start having sex with goats? Why is Rupanuga's program always juxtaposing the madhyamas, the acharyas, the sin absorbing saints like Jesus, the residents of Krishna loka, with all this foolishness? There are more than a few people who say Rupanuga's ilk infiltrated ISKCON just to destroy it. And this is a perfect plan for how they would do that, to say that Krishna's successors and acharyas are often debauchees, fools and sexual predators. This undermines the entire Vedic authority, to say that the acharyas from Vaikuntha who are God's shaksat associates -- are often debauchees. 

Why does Rupanuga's ilk always juxtapose illicit sex with madhyam devotees, and even Vishnupada -- Vaikuntha resident -- acharyas? And why does Rupanuga ilk keep saying that bona fide acharyas make mistakes by appointing 11 conditioned souls as Krishna's guru successors? The acharya does not know who is Krishna, so he appoints fools as Krishna's successors? Rupanuga is essentially saying Srila Prabhupada does not even know who Krishna is, therefore he appoints fools as Krishna's successors.

And where is this stated -- that madhyama adhikari devotees are often engaged in illicit sex with men, women and maybe children? Even kanisthas are not this degraded? Madhyama means -- minimum -- "anartha nrvritti," this is a person who is freed of unrequired mundane desires. 

BUT! Rupanuga's madhyama gurus are often mundane sexual predators who are chasing illicit sexual connections, which means -- they are not as advanced as our trash man, who is not a sexual predator chasing others for sexual antics. Why does Rupanuga promote that madhyama devotees, if not Vishnupada acharyas, are not as advanced as our trash man? So the advanced kanistha can become free from all these mundane anarthas, even our trash man is not chasing around for such odious levels of illicit sex, but the acharya cannot become free of these desires?  

And why does Rupanuga keep saying this for decades now, the same people who are less qualified and more degraded than the average karmis are the most advanced madhyama devotees? This simply proves Rupanuga is not reading the books of the acharya, or he would know by now that even kanisthas are more advanced than the karmis. Rupanuga thinks people running around like lusty hound dogs sniffing for illicit sex are advanced madhyama prabhus, or even Vishnupada acharyas? Where is any of this found in shastra? 

He is insulting and attacking the ENTIRE platform of devotional service. The acharyas have no idea who is Krishna, so they appoint fools as His successors. And once again, even our trash man knows that God's successors and acharyas are not "engaged in illicit sex." Why doesn't Rupanuga's program know this?  

Sorry, there are also NO, NONE, NOTHING, NADA, ZIP, ZERO "audio tapes" which names these 11 as Krishna's successor gurus, this is another big lie. Rupanuga signed off on his illicit sex acharya's program that's all, ok that is true, and that is how he created his banning, beating, molesting and assassination bogus guru's empire -- by creating his 11 bogus and / or illicit sex acharya's personality cults.]

We all understood exactly what had happened. 

[PADA: "We" all understood that Lord Krishna's guru successors are constantly falling down left, right and center? Worse, "we" never got the appointment tape from the GBC, it took Sulochana until 1985 to get a copy of this tape by bribing someone in the archives. And then he took the tape to us in Berkeley, which is when "we" first heard it. This tape was being hidden and suppressed. If "we" understood all this clearly, why was the tape hidden and suppressed from all of us "we"?

And! Madhyama devotees are so degraded, they are most of the time falling into debauchee behaviors? When did "we" agree to this? Srila Prabhupada says even the lower level kanistha devotees are in the modes of goodness, and the madhyama is even higher that this, why does Rupanuga's program keep saying kantistha and madhyama devotees are -- most of the time -- fallen debauchees? Again every single one of the 11 has either fallen or got very sick from taking karma, or both. And they all supported the idea that acharyas are falling into debauchee behaviors.

Except! Fallen debauchees are not even on the kanistha platform, but Rupanuga's program keeps saying they are on the madhyama platform. Of course NOTICE! Rupanuga's team never said their 11 were madhyama in the first place, they said their 11 are the newly annointed Vishnupada level full blown acharyas. They immediately designated their gurus as Vishnupada level acharyas, they never said they are madhyamas. Rupanuga is making all this up, the 11 were never advertised as madhyama, they were and some still are advertised as uttama diksha acharyas who can absorb sins like Jesus etc.]

SRILA PRABHUPADA: "In this verse Srila Rupa Gosvami advises the devotee to be intelligent enough to distinguish between the kanistha-adhikari, madhyama-adhikari and the uttama-adhikari. The devotee should also know his own position and should not try to imitate a devotee situated on a higher platform. Srila Bhaktivinoda Thakura has given some practical hints to the effect that an uttama-adhikari Vaisnava can be recognized by his ability to convert many fallen souls to Vaisnavism. 

One should not become a spiritual master unless he has attained the platform of uttama-adhikari. A neophyte Vaisnava or a Vaisnava situated on the intermediate platform can also accept disciples, but such disciples must be on the same platform, and it should be understood that they cannot advance very well toward the ultimate goal of life under his insufficient guidance. Therefore a disciple should be careful to accept an uttama-adhikari as a spiritual master." (Purport, Nectar of Instruction)

That whole discussion was all about the future. What was that future? Disciples of my disciples, my grand-disciples.

[PADA: The tape says, he becomes guru "when I give the order," but he never gave this order. He also said when they deviate they have to be replaced. Why does Rupanuga's program think the people who deviate and have to be replaced are Vishnupada's acharyas?]

And then on the 9th of July he came out with was to happen while he was still here.

[PADA: The July 9th letter does not appoint future diksha acharyas, this is another false idea. And why does Rupanuga think people who are deviating and have to be replaced can accept the sins of others like another Jesus? Rupanuga thinks people like Jesus are sexual predators?]

Because the question had been asked, “Well, what about initiations now?” There were hundreds people waiting in line, praying, crying for Srila Prabhupada to initiate before he disappeared. Everyone could understand that Srila Prabhupada was winding up his appearance.

It was becoming pretty obvious. The GBC were first persons to know it. Our task was, we had to be able to explain to the devotees in general, what Srila Prabhupada wanted in the future.

[PADA: Of course that is why Rupanuga's people hid the May 28th appointment tape, the 1977 conversations, the will, the letters etc. and they orchestrated having Sulochana killed as soon as he released these tapes to the public. They hid the so-called appointment tape and did not even allow us to hear it. Why? It does not appoint anyone as acharya, never mind 11. And the tape says they will continue to deviate and then they will have to be replaced, because they are still conditioned souls and not gurus. 

Why did the Rupanuga team orchestrate Sulochana being killed for releasing the so-called appointment tape? Why was this tape hidden? Why does this tape start out by saying initiations in the future will be conducted by ritviks, and then the tape was not only hidden but the people who released it were immediately murdered? 

And I would have been murdered too without the determined effort of the Berkeley police department to conduct undercover surveillance on me, and catch the GBC's goondas who were sent to get me. If this appointment was so clear, why did they need to kill the people who forwarded the tape?]

There was a lot of pressure on us. So we went to see Srila Prabhupada. So instead of eighteen of us going in, we chose six of us to go on, the chartered members which included myself. We went in and Satsvarupa read the questions we had laboriously compiled so as to not take too much time.

[PADA: And Srila Prabhupada said after I am gone there will be ritviks, that is what the tape actually says. And that is why they hid the tape and harassed anyone who even asked about the tape.]

Srila Prabhupada was indisposed. So we wanted to make it simple, clear and yet be able to know what we were supposed to do in the future. So we asked the first question about what to do about first and second initiations, especially when you are not with us. That was the first question.

[PADA: And the answer was that there would be ritviks ... that is why Rupanuga's team hid the tape.]

The discussion was about GBC, BBT; a lot of things went on at that meeting. It was brief but it covered a lot. I’m talking about that particular part, the first question that was on our list. And Srila Prabhupada replied, “Yes, I’m going to appoint some of you.” And the next question was, “Whose disciple will they be?” And he said, “Disciple of my disciple, my grand-disciple.”

[PADA: When I give the order, the order was not given.] 

So the discussion was about the future. He didn’t answer the question about right now, these people are waiting. Kirtanananda wrote a letter to Srila Prabhupada after May 28, about five days later. He wrote a letter with a bunch of names that he wanted to submit for initiation. I recall, Tamala Krsna was Srila Prabhupada’s secretary, he was saying, “Srila Prabhupada has not decided what to do about those waiting for initiation now. He has not given an answer to that question.”

He said, “Tell the GBC to tell everybody to wait. They just have to wait.” So what happened was on the 9th of July, Srila Prabhupada came out with a famous letter in which he said, “These men will initiate people on my behalf.”

But he had already explained what was going to happen after he left.

[PADA: Right, he said they would only be ritviks and anyone who had this actual tape was banned, beaten and killed.]

My disciple’s disciple, my grand-disciple. That was already discussed but the part about what happens with all those people waiting in line hadn’t been settled, yet. 9th’s letter settled that question. “Whatever initiations they perform now, these people I will name.”

[PADA: The July 9th letter says they will initiate on my behalf, it does not appoint anyone as gurus. And why would Srila Prabhupada appoint persons he had just said would deviate and have to be replaced, -- as gurus?]

And between 28th of May and 9th of July, he picked the men. He put them in that letter. They were going to be ritviks, or the officiating acaryas for Srila Prabhupada. And anyone they initiated would be his disciple. But he had already described in the meeting on 28th May what was to happen after that.

[PADA: Yes, after that these ritviks would continue to deviate just as they had all along, and they would have to be replaced. Rupanuga's team said that people who deviate and have to be replaced are Vishnupada acharyas. That is not what the tape says, which is why they suppressed the tape and killed people for releasing it.]

This was a description of what was to happen now to all those hundreds of devotees who were waiting. It’s all there in print. And all eighteen of us signed off on it. We knew, when we walked out of that meeting, all of us knew, nobody, nobody thought that Srila Prabhupada was changing the parampara system.

[PADA: Rupanuga thought that people who deviate and have to be replaced are Vishnupada acharyas, he changed the entire parampara system by saying falling down people are also acharyas.]

If we had thought that, we’d have been back in the room. “Srila Prabhupada, how are we going to explain this to the devotees?” There wasn’t an issue. Nobody even thought that Srila Prabhupada was changing the parampara system, to be the last acarya and everyone initiated from then on would be his disciple. That wasn’t even thought about.

Devotee: My question is that, nobody even knew that was going to happen at all. No one knew that there was going to be diksa gurus after Srila Prabhupada left. I didn’t know that. First of all, I didn’t know that Srila Prabhupada was going to leave.

Rupanuga: Well, the GBC knew it. It was up to the GBC to tell the others.

Note from Bhakti Vikasa Swami: I remember Jayatirtha Dasadhikari returning to London (where he was the GBC) from Vrndavana shortly after this and telling the assembled devotees at Bhaktivedanta Manor that Srila Prabhupada had appointed eleven leaders (including himself) to initiate on his behalf and that they were to act as full initiating gurus after his departure.

[PADA: Hee hee, right, Jayatirtha was the first one of their gurus to start taking drugs and having illicit sex, but the GBC kept him in the "His Divine Grace Sri Srimad Srila Jayatirtha Tirthapada Maharaja" guru seat despite knowing he was deviating. And now Bhakti Vikas swami has signed onto the GBC's illicit sex with men, women and children guru's program because he self-apparently also believes that acharyas are usually sexual predators who behave less than dogs.

And the result of all this was, Jayatirtha's head was later chopped off for his having illicit sex with another man's wife. In short, Rupanuga's program orchestrated killing off the rank and file, and it also killed off some of their own gurus, and now many of their gurus are dying from illness connected to absorbing sins, so everyone suffers under Rupanuga's program. And, as Hrdayananda rightly explains, ISKCON then collapsed and became insignificant. 

Rupanuga ALSO probably knew some of his alleged acharyas were homosexuals from the 1960s. We knew that ourselves. Rupanuga was deputed by Srila Prabhupada to keep the Gaudiya Matha's appointed guru process out of ISKCON, but he became the hand maiden of that process. And now, after so many people were banned, beaten, children were molested, and people were assassinated due to the false guru program, Rupanuga thinks this process was "the order of Srila Prabhupada"? 

No it was the order of Rupanuga, and that is how he destroyed ISKCON and the thousands and thousands of lives within that institution, and he ruined the good name of the institution, and in fact he made Krishna's name have a huge black eye all over the planet. Unfortunately! The Isopanisad says that false gurus and the supporters of false gurus (like Rupanuga) are destined for a very dark future ... Sulochana said he would not trade his billions and billions of years of his past bad karma for one minute of their future karma. True dat!

ys pd]


  1. Right, Rupanuga is trying to re-write history.

    (1) There is no appointment of 11 Madhyam Gurus or any other diksha gurus on any tape anywhere in existence.

    (2) The GBC said the 11 are uttama Vishnupada acharyas and not Madhyam.

    (3) The tape, the will, the letters, the 1977 conversations were all hidden and not given to the mass of devotees. The tape itself says future initiations will be conducted by ritviks, and when these ritviks deviate, they will be replaced.

    (4) Persons in possession of the will, the appointment tape, the letters, the 1977 conversations etc. were being shunned, banned, beaten and maybe even killed, i.e. no one was allowed to freely discuss this material and its barely allowed now.

    (5) Deviations of these gurus are systematically covered up, so there is no transparency in the system launched by Rupanuga.

    (6) If Prabhupada did not appoint these 11 gurus, that means people like Rupanuga did. So yes, he is trying to blame Prabhupada for his own sinful behaviors. Its like the guy who robs the bank and says "Jesus wanted me to rob the bank." Maybe not?

    So Rupanuga is blaming the appointment of 11 gurus on Prabhupada, but Prabhupada did not appoint any gurus, Rupanuga did. And he will have to take full responsibility for the ensuing exodus, bankrupting of ISKCON, and no small amount of banning, beating, molesting and sometimes murders -- because this is his show bottle guru program, this program was never authorized by Krishna or any acharyas. Its his baby and he will have to take the karma for producing this odious baby. He is trying to blame Jesus for his robbing the bank, its not going to fly in the court of the higher authority, or even in the courts here on earth. You break it, you own it. ys pd

  2. The GBC's 1986 "reformers" (Ravindra Swarupa / Rupanuga etc) officially excommunicated Sulochana for making offenses to a great devotee like Kirtanananda, and they said Kirtanananda is like "Jesus, Haridas Thakur and Prahlad" in their BTG magazine.

    They stacked the deck against him, and he said the reformers painted a bulls eye on his back. That is what he said, I take his word over yours.

    The GBC initiates all kinds of people without asking permission of the spouse and this has broke up countless marriages. and Rupanuga is to blame for this program because he said all along, the 11 were appointed as diksha gurus.

    Rupanuga just again recently said the 11 were appointed as gurus. This created the whole initiation imbroglio, which has created chaos in hundreds if not thousands of marriages. Devotees offered a $108,000 reward to anyone who can prove there was a guru appointment, why didn't Rupanuga collect the reward and show all of us the evidence?

    Rupanuga is directly involved in saying Kirtanananda is the appointed guru, and he said that again recently. He created this environment. ys pd


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