Thursday, March 17, 2016

Can People in ISKCON Make Progress?

Amar Puri says: (quoting) "So if their love ( the living force ) calls Srila Prabhupada then He certainly would like to go to there to wake the dead body That’s all."

Make no mistake, Prabhu, any body who is serious and sincere in cultivating KC calls Srila Prabhupada in loving service to His mission free from all material motive, then certainly he would not like to go to the POLLUTED places to wake the dead body because he knows and understands that the places are contaminated with full of HYPOCRISY.

I hope you do understand it. Yes, they use only Srila Prabhupada’s name to attract innocent people. But these people’s TRUE LOVE and TRUST in Srila Prabhupada never awakes because they do not allow the new comers to read Srila Prabhupada’s VANI. You should know and understand it. Therefore, they are brain washed the way they want from the new comers. Isn’t that a FACT ?

When, you and others give and preach them the real VANI of Srila Prabhupada, they are already fixed in the polluted environment. As a result of it, they will not want to accept Srila Prabhupada’s VANI directly but to accept the bogus guru’s newly changed VANI which is full of misleading and CHEATING.

When you say this ; ” In the ISKCON the bogus gurus are Srila Prabhupada’s disciples but they do not want Srila Prabhupada……. ” So how in the HELL, the new comers would want to accept Srila Prabhupada’s VANI and as such where and how is their love ( the living force) calls Srila Prabhupada in order to go to there to wake the dead body? Where and how does it make any sense when you are writing as such?

[PADA: It all depends. We have various associates within ISKCON who agree with us, and they are there mainly to keep some sort of sadhana and association, but they know the GBC gurus are off. Its thus not true that everyone in ISKCON does not access or accept Srila Prabhupada's vani, some do. And in fact some ISKCON temple programs are getting closer and closer to the original pre-1978 programs, including playing audio class lectures from Srila Prabhupada, because the influence of these "new" gurus is dwindling. And so Srila Prabhupada's post is sort of gaining, if not winning, by default. 

In fact, some former ISKCON temples eventually ditched the GBC's bogus guru program in toto, and they went forward fully with our idea. It can happen and has happened. Of course that is why the GBC has spent $20m suing some of these people, they know this is a trend and unless they can stop it, its going to move ahead and eventually overtake them.   

That means some folks WERE part of the GBC program, but they gradually went over to our side. This might take some time, but it can happen and does happen. Similarly we have various independent programs which are also mainly former ISKCON people. 

So we should be careful not to alienate all of these citizens still left in and around the institution, because some of them are good customers for our product. We should also not say that everyone in the institution cannot worship Prabhupada ever, when some of them are and they sympathize with us. OK some of them never will worship Prabhupada, but we cannot toss the entire baby out with the bath water. Some of them will warm up to us, and they are, for example our blog readership is WAY up this year from last and etc. 

In sum, we need to be tolerant and patient, and expecting immediate results is not practical. Reforms of religions can sometimes take decades, centuries, and even thousands of years in some cases. Rather we should see that changes are happening gradually, and we have seen some good progress in a short time from historical point of view, and that is much more progress than some reforms have done in other religions in decades or centuries. ys pd]    

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