pada: angel108b@yahoo.com
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That self-evidently means, he was molested himself, and / or he was trained in the process of molesting others. How would a 14 year old child know about molesting other children, unless he has been trained in the process by some older folks there in Mayapur?
AP: Someone should look at this: The Grace Tame Foundation
MD: When you have a GBC puppet / Business man temple president and gurukuli (Sundar), what else do you expect???
AB DASI: I completely support known abusers not taking part in events and gathering where potential future and past victims may be. I have a practical question. How, for those of us who do not have the faces and names of previous abusers in our minds, does an organizer or planner avoid this?
AC DASI: One option is to ask a few older generation gurukulis. It shouldn't be so difficult, the information should be made easily available to everyone. in the meantime, asking around is the best option I can think of.
SB: This is the whole point. ISKCON and devotees who DO know should be making sure these people don't attend. Lots of people do know, and they allow abusers free run of the place anyway.
TB: I'm wondering... just like there is a database to check on neighborhood predators (we had one move into our neighborhood and with many many complaints to HOA, so he moved). Could there be a database for the Iskcon community at large?
ALD: The CPO has files on confirmed cases. But you have to screen each person individually. This person is already flagged by the CPO, but nothing is done after.
GD: Do you have a link to those files?
SD: I think only the CPO has those files. Some are not public.
VCD: For sure that is what they should do. You know like how they have shop lifters photos at the store sometimes at least here in Hawaii they do. They should do that with all these pedophiles. I think they’re worried about being shamed but are making more problems by covering this up.
KED: I’m sorry for deleting my comments. I don’t want the association. This has rocked me. Why can’t we talk openly about such things so we can ensure all our children are safe, that is bare minimum.
VC DASI: Thank you for trying, maybe your voice will reach. We live here, it doesn’t reach anywhere so we gave up and just not go there or to the outside gatherings also.
SD: Does this man Damodara / Dalim attend the Honolulu temple?
VC DASI: Yes ... he does.
HD: That’s sad…
JM DASI: ISKCON... Child Protection should have an Abuser File -- with pictures and history of offenders -- sent out to all Temples Worldwide. They should all be banned from attending festivals and any programs.
HD: If only…
TB DASI: Yes! That's what I was thinking. Someone should just start one. Why haven't the leaders done this long ago?
SD: Would you like to start one? I can imagine it would be a labor - intensive project, but I would support whoever wanted to do it. I would love to see this replicated within ISKCON and the other Vaishnava groups:
https://www.jewishcommunitywatch.org/
Jewish Community Watch | JCW is an organization dedicated to the prevention of child sexual abuse (CSA) within the Jewish community
JEWISHCOMMUNITYWATCH.ORG
GSG: What the heck! OMG my mom was on the child protection team, that’s crazy. My mom is no longer on the team anymore but she was on it for a long time. I’m also a mandated reporter myself as you know I’m a substance abuse counselor.
SD: You are doing a great service, thank you.
PW DASI: If he's from Mayapur, he was abusing kids in Bhubaneswar when I was a child. I heard he went to America with his brother Uttam.
SD: Yes.
AC DASI: I am so sorry.
NHD: He did. I knew him and Uttam both. He abused one friend of mine, that I know of.
AC DASI: I'm so sorry.
PW DASI: Yes he abused me when I was 9 or 10. He was let down by Iskcon. We all were. The gurukula in Mayapur made him like this -- and then made him take the fall while all the real demons got off. He was angry. Rightfully so. But he was an abuser and he molested all of us girls -- any girl that he could get to.
SD: Thank you for sharing.
VC DASI: I’m so sorry to hear. I guess the CPO report is talking of him being 14 and thus I see in these moments that he was just a kid himself at one time. It’s sad but to you and other ppl mentioning that they’ve had this happen hopefully wakes all those that are supporting him.
SD DASI: Such a person should not be welcome inside a temple or in any formal capacity at a festival, but how can someone be prevented from coming to Ratha Yatra? We can't even stop the fundamentalist Christians from harassing us and getting in the way of the turning radius.
Also, abusers are not going to get cured by devotee association. They need psychiatric help for any real chance of overcoming or preventing themselves from committing abuse.
SD: I'm going to play out a scenario. Confirmed child abuser goes on harinam, talks to people asking questions about the harinam, someone recognizes him as a child sex offender and stays away from the devotees, OR child sees parents talking to abuser and thinks it's okay to go off alone with this man as he was friendly with his parents. It's a dangerous, slippery slope - why risk the safety of the children?
LEP: Karmis would recognise him as sex offender? If I have child I teach not to go with anyone without me. Not even with my friends and if I want my friends take my child I will tell my child this will pick you up. You train your child and a child sex offender shouldn't go close to schools nurseries etc . Harinam is other thing plus you don't have to be friendly with him just because he is on harinam.
VEG: You are the one who said the abuser needs more mercy than the victim. But who gave you the authority to make such a statement? You also say the abuser needs to do some service.. just because they shouldn't be allowed to be at certain places doesn't mean they can't do service or practice spiritual life. like i said, you are oversimplifying it. abusers and other criminals are very welcome to practice krsna consciousness. in fact there is an iskcon prison ministry helping criminals do just this from behind bars! but the victims should be the ones who feel safe at temples and festivals.
You have brought up jagai and madhai multiple times. They asked for forgiveness, which lord nityananda gave. most of the abusers in iskcon have not asked their victims for forgiveness! so that's pretty much a moot point.
DD: And ISKCON still promotes Lokanath swami as a guru despite knowing he is an abuser.
S Devi Dasi: Someone could be assigned to approach him, tell him that he is a known pedophile, and cannot take part in the kirtan party. He will be closely followed all day, and cannot talk to any women or children. That someone must be bold and fierce. No law breaking, but make him uncomfortable and unwelcome. It can and must be done.
VC DASI: Unfortunately when the temple President allows this person to be around come to temple abs as my husband said above. She herself houses a three time molester and is engaged to known guru who fell down and is another molester. There’s nothing more that can be done but to remove ourselves from that disgusting situation and all that participate and are buddies and are supporters -- and are just as culpable.
GVC: Very interesting. I was hanging out with him when I was in Hawaii right before pandemic. He was at the temple and had no issues being amongst the other devotees. This is the first time I've heard of him being this way. We share cooking as a hobby and had a bonding session over this. I need to be better informed or someone needs to regulate.
VC DASI: We bonded very well with him too. Being a kuli in gurukul in Mayapur with husband loving Prabhupada. Loved going to his abs the bengalis homes then found out in 2019. I’d say that was it. Then finding numerous cases cpo has and him being banned in few east coast temples. The tp and some devotees know but don’t care. Apparently molesting is not a big deal amongst “devotees” and that is why this problem is never fixed.
BKS DASA: Totally man! I know him from years ago, when I was a brahmacari in the Brooklyn temple. I still say hi to him sometimes. Omgfg! What is wrong with these people!
AC DASI: I'm guessing you won't be saying hi to him since finding this out?
BKS DASA: If I do seem again - this will be the first point of "discussion" - for damn sure! The last time this happened, I gave someone a beat down in the street, in front of the temple in Vrindavana!
AAD: Surely he is on some kind of register.... he should have conditions if he was ever convicted. Conditions that stipulate he cannot be around kids.
CW: Iskcon Hawaiian HI Govindanandini Dasi / Haricakra Dasa
RS: Why isn't he in jail? ISKCON is not above the law.
SD: He seems to move around a lot and he preys on children in different parts of the world, which I imagine complicates things.
SSD Dasi: Hare krishna to all the devotees of isckon. I am from mayapur india ... I am ss dasi and i am 18 years old.. I am studying in 11th grade.. Mr. Dalim / Damodor -- I know him he is from mayapur. I heard that he is born in mayapur and he is old gurukuli. I am not his relative -- I just see him in 2019 when he is come from US to visit his family. His wife is our teacher we went to his house when he was here also. He is always welcoming us and we call him jethu that means big father in bengali and we all are comfortable with him.
If he is a child abuser than why he is to good with us. I am not only one girl we are lots of girls and boys in mayapur. You can't ban him.
SD: I'm glad you have a friendship with Dalim. No person is all good or all bad, but there is confirmation that he seriously abused children, and as a result, parents should know not to leave their children alone with him. And to protect his past victims, he should not be allowed at temples. Temples should be a safe space for survivors of sexual abuse to go and not have to worry about bumping into their abuser.
DK DASA: This is just sentimentalism. Many criminals are friendly. But it won't change the crime.
RDA: I have personally known him. Me and my sister regularly. Going to his house in Mayapur he was very person. He never talk badly with us and he protect us like our father. You don't say this thing to our jethu Dalim /Damoder das. We aluay fill safe with him when we go to temple or auy other place
SD: I will write what I wrote to the person above you: I'm glad you have a friendship with Dalim. No person is all good or all bad, but there is confirmation that he seriously abused children, and as a result, parents should know not to leave their children alone with him. And to protect his past victims, he should not be allowed at temples. Temples should be a safe space for survivors of sexual abuse to go and not have to worry about bumping into their abuser.
SS DASI: How did you find about his background?
SD: He sexually abused a friend of mine. As well as those mentioned in the report (not named). And now through this post I am finding out he abused others as well.
SS DASI: Took place in USA or India?
KSA: In which year did he abuse your friend because from 7 years he was in India with his family.
SD: The CPO report on him was written April 14, 1999 based on an investigation done in July 1991 (before the CPO was formed in 1998). That is what I referenced when I wrote this post, along with my friend pressing charges against him. After this post, others commented (see above) that their friends and family were also abused by him.
Yes time should not be a factor. That is why the statute of limitations are opening up all over the country, so victims can come forward whenever they are ready. The average age of a child sexual abuse survivor to come forward is age 52.
Y Devi: Did anybody make a complaint to the Hawaii police ?
VC DASI: As far as we none were abused in Hawaii this is other states and india
DD: People here are testifying he is a molester, that is the proof.
VC DASI: FYI most times when one is molested the proof is the person saying and others saying. I was molested -- not raped -- so it won’t show when they medically check me. So screw your proof. You and all supporters are what’s wrong with iskcon today because you don’t want to believe that someone you trust could do something heinous like violate a child.
NNH DASA: What I dont understand is if this initial investigation took place in 1991 why did it take until 1999 for this to be written. I met Damodar and Uttam his brother in New York in 1995, they were serving in the Brooklyn Temple, and would have been on religious VISA.
EC DASI: All these early mayapur boys went thru hell. I was there. They wore rags, ate disgusting scraps of food, were beaten and sexually abused repeatedly. They all looked so lost, broken and sad, I remember Dalim. A little angry boy.
V DASA: As it happens neither CPO or GBC have functioned well when it comes to protecting children. CPO seem obviously weak as they have no real power.
EC: It’s clearly a rotten society. Does it make you feel special to call them out?
VC DASI: GBC is not discouraging reporting? "Not discouraged at all," that’s a big fat lie. GBC member and guru devamrita swami discouraged my mother in law from going to the police and saying your husband doesn’t want this and will leave you if you do so. Gbc is bogus!!
S DASA: What about his family in India? Why bring this up when it will upset them?
SD: What about the devotee children that Dalim has harmed? What about preventing future harm from devotee children?
KED: The fact that he’s yet again married with kids is just more proof that this needs to be talked about and understood more. His wife should have had the opportunity to know his history before marriage. but ultimately his choices are his and so are the consequences. and unfortunately for his new wife and children, they will also have to experience the consequences of his actions. it’s very sad. but it’s not us that is at fault for that, it’s dalim.
"Whatever parents do, let parents be INDEPENDENTLY thoughtful, not just parents but ALL individuals, but parents especially are responsible for care and education of their children.... if there is some sort of depravity or corruption organizationally, parents can collectively say “this isn’t right" and start a reform movement."
And now there are reports of potentially "dozens" of victims of this molester, including girls as young as 4, and rapes of girls 9 and 13 years old and so on and so forth. And yet ISKCON never seems to have alerted others to this process, creating more and more victims? Now some of the victims and / or people who know victims are on a forum discussing all this, and yet some of the Mayapur / Jayapataka folks are asking "where is the proof"?
And the proof is right there, victims and / or their friends and relatives are giving testimony against this molester right there on the forum.
BVKS says Srila Prabhupada never said we should stop training.
FINE! However, if children are being raped, and that trains them to
rape other children. What kind of training is that?
Now someone else sent me a video of Bhakti Vikas swami, who is saying it is absurd to think Srila Prabhupada did not want us to continue to train people after he departed. Oooops, except no one anywhere, at any time, ever said that Srila Prabhupada did not expect us to continue to train people?
What we are saying is that the GBC / Bhakti Vikas swami program is causing children to be raped "on an industrial scale" according to some of the victims.
And then some of the raped children are subsequently raping or abusing other children, because the GBC / BVKS process is training them to become rapers and abusers of other children.
Of course the rape victims who suffer in silence may have other unhealthy psychological issues, such as PTSD etc. And BVKS is the sannyasa disciple of the leader of Mayapur.
Thus we said -- the proper training should continue, and their malefic child exploiting process is not part of it. More than a few people have told PADA that these GBC ilk folks are lower life forms from the lower regions of the universe who have infiltered ISKCON, because on their lower planets -- child raping is their normal life there. Anyway, here is part of the discussion:
AP: Someone should look at this: The Grace Tame Foundation
MD: When you have a GBC puppet / Business man temple president and gurukuli (Sundar), what else do you expect???
AB DASI: I completely support known abusers not taking part in events and gathering where potential future and past victims may be. I have a practical question. How, for those of us who do not have the faces and names of previous abusers in our minds, does an organizer or planner avoid this?
Would there be screening for anyone leading Kirtan or taking part? What does the protocol look like to keep certain people out of public events? I would not have known who this person was at the time. If I were to now organize a public event for a community, I may not know the history of those who have come.
I am a newer devotee of just 12 years and do not know of many abusers. What would I do to safeguard against this? I’m not saying the organizers did not know. I am just wondering what practical steps one should take who may not know.
S DASI: It's tough.
VC DASI: The organizers and I know that for a fact. This temple has history of supporting the abusers.
RRB: Wondering the same thing.
S DASI: It's tough.
VC DASI: The organizers and I know that for a fact. This temple has history of supporting the abusers.
RRB: Wondering the same thing.
AC DASI: One option is to ask a few older generation gurukulis. It shouldn't be so difficult, the information should be made easily available to everyone. in the meantime, asking around is the best option I can think of.
SB: This is the whole point. ISKCON and devotees who DO know should be making sure these people don't attend. Lots of people do know, and they allow abusers free run of the place anyway.
TB: I'm wondering... just like there is a database to check on neighborhood predators (we had one move into our neighborhood and with many many complaints to HOA, so he moved). Could there be a database for the Iskcon community at large?
ALD: The CPO has files on confirmed cases. But you have to screen each person individually. This person is already flagged by the CPO, but nothing is done after.
GD: Do you have a link to those files?
SD: I think only the CPO has those files. Some are not public.
VCD: For sure that is what they should do. You know like how they have shop lifters photos at the store sometimes at least here in Hawaii they do. They should do that with all these pedophiles. I think they’re worried about being shamed but are making more problems by covering this up.
KED: I’m sorry for deleting my comments. I don’t want the association. This has rocked me. Why can’t we talk openly about such things so we can ensure all our children are safe, that is bare minimum.
VC DASI: Thank you for trying, maybe your voice will reach. We live here, it doesn’t reach anywhere so we gave up and just not go there or to the outside gatherings also.
SD: Does this man Damodara / Dalim attend the Honolulu temple?
VC DASI: Yes ... he does.
HD: That’s sad…
JM DASI: ISKCON... Child Protection should have an Abuser File -- with pictures and history of offenders -- sent out to all Temples Worldwide. They should all be banned from attending festivals and any programs.
HD: If only…
TB DASI: Yes! That's what I was thinking. Someone should just start one. Why haven't the leaders done this long ago?
SD: Would you like to start one? I can imagine it would be a labor - intensive project, but I would support whoever wanted to do it. I would love to see this replicated within ISKCON and the other Vaishnava groups:
https://www.jewishcommunitywatch.org/
Jewish Community Watch | JCW is an organization dedicated to the prevention of child sexual abuse (CSA) within the Jewish community
JEWISHCOMMUNITYWATCH.ORG
GSG: What the heck! OMG my mom was on the child protection team, that’s crazy. My mom is no longer on the team anymore but she was on it for a long time. I’m also a mandated reporter myself as you know I’m a substance abuse counselor.
SD: You are doing a great service, thank you.
PW DASI: If he's from Mayapur, he was abusing kids in Bhubaneswar when I was a child. I heard he went to America with his brother Uttam.
SD: Yes.
PW DASI: Yes, he abused my 2 sisters and my best friend.
SD: Oh no!
SD: Oh no!
AC DASI: I am so sorry.
NHD: He did. I knew him and Uttam both. He abused one friend of mine, that I know of.
AC DASI: I'm so sorry.
PW DASI: Yes he abused me when I was 9 or 10. He was let down by Iskcon. We all were. The gurukula in Mayapur made him like this -- and then made him take the fall while all the real demons got off. He was angry. Rightfully so. But he was an abuser and he molested all of us girls -- any girl that he could get to.
SD: Thank you for sharing.
VC DASI: I’m so sorry to hear. I guess the CPO report is talking of him being 14 and thus I see in these moments that he was just a kid himself at one time. It’s sad but to you and other ppl mentioning that they’ve had this happen hopefully wakes all those that are supporting him.
SD DASI: Such a person should not be welcome inside a temple or in any formal capacity at a festival, but how can someone be prevented from coming to Ratha Yatra? We can't even stop the fundamentalist Christians from harassing us and getting in the way of the turning radius.
All sexual offenders are allowed to be in the street and on the beach. Unless an individual victim present was maintaining a restraining order, there's no legal mechanism to prevent any particular person from attending street festival.
All parents and guardians should always be aware of these possibilities at *any* public or outdoor event. Children should always be trained that they should always stay away from all strangers at such events, regardless of their being dressed as a devotee, and should be given a fixed list of safe adults they talk to if separated, and drilled in going directly to the stage.
Separately, an argument could be made that part of the point of Ratha Yatra is that absolutely anyone has the right to see Jagannath in this day, no matter how fallen they are. tuhuñ jagannāth, jagate kahāosi jag-bāhira nahi muñi chāra -- even the most abominable person is still a member of the Universe.
Ideally the CPO would maintain a public list with faces and pseudonyms, and organizers and booth staff would review these lists before festivals in order to keep an eye out for such persons.
SD: From the photos, it appears this man Damodara / Dalim was garlanded (not everyone was), and partook in the kirtan in the Hawaii procession, playing djembe next to the kirtan leader. Giving preferential treatment to child abusers gives a bad impression.
SH DASI: Garlanding is really unfortunate. Kids pick up in that stuff. Whoever did that should be informed immediately. It would take a lot of very expert bouncer types to legally intimidate someone away from the Kirtan leader. But it's a skill and expertise that should be developed.
All parents and guardians should always be aware of these possibilities at *any* public or outdoor event. Children should always be trained that they should always stay away from all strangers at such events, regardless of their being dressed as a devotee, and should be given a fixed list of safe adults they talk to if separated, and drilled in going directly to the stage.
Separately, an argument could be made that part of the point of Ratha Yatra is that absolutely anyone has the right to see Jagannath in this day, no matter how fallen they are. tuhuñ jagannāth, jagate kahāosi jag-bāhira nahi muñi chāra -- even the most abominable person is still a member of the Universe.
Ideally the CPO would maintain a public list with faces and pseudonyms, and organizers and booth staff would review these lists before festivals in order to keep an eye out for such persons.
SD: From the photos, it appears this man Damodara / Dalim was garlanded (not everyone was), and partook in the kirtan in the Hawaii procession, playing djembe next to the kirtan leader. Giving preferential treatment to child abusers gives a bad impression.
SH DASI: Garlanding is really unfortunate. Kids pick up in that stuff. Whoever did that should be informed immediately. It would take a lot of very expert bouncer types to legally intimidate someone away from the Kirtan leader. But it's a skill and expertise that should be developed.
AC DASI: You make a good point that everyone should be able to see lord jagannatha. Unfortunately, what happens is when devotees know that their abuser will be welcomed at the ratha yatra, or any festivals, they won't go.
So allowing abusers to attend keeps devotees who have been victims of abuse from going. So, the victims are continually abused by not being able to see jagannatha themselves.
I personally would be in favor of making everywhere more comfortable for those who have been abused than for abusers.
SH DASI: I understand which is why I said the argument could be made. I'm on the fence about this and only this festival, because this song is so important
So allowing abusers to attend keeps devotees who have been victims of abuse from going. So, the victims are continually abused by not being able to see jagannatha themselves.
I personally would be in favor of making everywhere more comfortable for those who have been abused than for abusers.
SH DASI: I understand which is why I said the argument could be made. I'm on the fence about this and only this festival, because this song is so important
(Vidyapatiwas one of Mahaprabhhu's favorite poets) and this is the tradition of Ratha Yatra. Certainly abusers should not be made to feel welcome or be celebrated or garlanded for this very reason.
MM DASI: Playing djembe in the kirtan is not just being on the street. This is a position of respect.
SH DASI: Yeah .... however I have watched people try to get rid of perfectly nice devotees playing djembe in Sankirtan party ... and if someone is determined it's not so easy.
AC DASI: lol!! now see what you've started by mention that type of drum? lol!!
(yes, i do realize that your point was not the *type* of drum he's playing, but the fact that he's clearly a welcome member of the festival).
M DASI: Problem with enforcement at public festivals held on public property (like a city street) is there is no laws to turn to unless there is an outstanding warrant for his arrest, for example. Otherwise, fb exposure, such as this, is good. We can prohibit such a person from attending ISKCON temples and functions on ISKCON property.
MM DASI: Playing djembe in the kirtan is not just being on the street. This is a position of respect.
SH DASI: Yeah .... however I have watched people try to get rid of perfectly nice devotees playing djembe in Sankirtan party ... and if someone is determined it's not so easy.
AC DASI: lol!! now see what you've started by mention that type of drum? lol!!
(yes, i do realize that your point was not the *type* of drum he's playing, but the fact that he's clearly a welcome member of the festival).
M DASI: Problem with enforcement at public festivals held on public property (like a city street) is there is no laws to turn to unless there is an outstanding warrant for his arrest, for example. Otherwise, fb exposure, such as this, is good. We can prohibit such a person from attending ISKCON temples and functions on ISKCON property.
If he shows up and joins a street Harinam there’s little that can be legally done but would suggest someone with authority first pull him aside and tell him that he should exclude himself and why. If he won’t cooperate, some form of passive intimidation might be considered. If cops are friendly towards devotees, explain that this person is unwanted and why and ask if they’d consider telling him to mosey along somewhere else.
VC DASI: No, here they don’t stop him in the temple even. He is welcome at all ISKCON events, not only Ratha.
AC DASI: Being garlanded, and right next to the kirtan leader definitely makes it look like he's welcome.
R Dasa: We have a similar case in one Ratha Yatra in Mexico City before the pandemic. It was a sex offender. So called devotee. And he was there and the guests where asking questions to him. Them after the parade. He was talking to some of guest. What happened. One devotee lady was complaining. That he should not be there at. All because he molested her when she was a small girl with her sister. In one of our farms. He denied everything.
VC DASI: No, here they don’t stop him in the temple even. He is welcome at all ISKCON events, not only Ratha.
AC DASI: Being garlanded, and right next to the kirtan leader definitely makes it look like he's welcome.
R Dasa: We have a similar case in one Ratha Yatra in Mexico City before the pandemic. It was a sex offender. So called devotee. And he was there and the guests where asking questions to him. Them after the parade. He was talking to some of guest. What happened. One devotee lady was complaining. That he should not be there at. All because he molested her when she was a small girl with her sister. In one of our farms. He denied everything.
Like always. Any way long history short. I reported to the GBC. Explain everything. And the response was. This is a public festival on a public. Sorry. Maharaj. But. You are incorrect. Because if this child abuse offender touched a child here on this festival? We have a problem because we could possible get a Law case. Parents will sue us because the permits for the festival are under ISKCON NAME. GBC REALIZE THAT WE HAVE A POTENCIAL PROBLEM.
S DASI: If he abused children in the US he should be reported to the authorities to see if the statute of limitations hasn't passed, and at least he can be placed in our database.
SD: I know someone personally who pressed charges against him in the U.S.
SH DASI: Seems he is on the CPO radar. What is the status of that case legally? Did the relevant DA take it up? If there's enough of a group of Americans, especially across state lines, they can take it to the FBI and try to get the feds involved.
SD: He was convicted in the one case. I'm not sure beyond that. The FBI may need more than one case to get involved.
SH DASI: So then is he in the sex offenders database? That would be valuable information to share. If your friend has his case information and legal name, that would be super helpful. He may even be in violation of his parole / release. That would give more teeth to excluding him.
AC DASI: That's great to hear. It seems that if he was convicted, he shouldn't be allowed at RY! the FBI generally deals with crimes that cross state lines.
SH DASI: Lots of convicts and sexual offender felons are 'allowed' at events like Ratha Yatra --- in that it's a public event. He certainly shouldn't be encouraged or garlanded. But unless he's violating the terms of his parole or release, there's no law preventing convicts, even sex offenders, from attending public events.
DD: But he also goes to ISKCON temples and ISKCON children in India go to his house regularly.
SS: I know him, but had no idea until now… they are covering for him.
S DASI: If he abused children in the US he should be reported to the authorities to see if the statute of limitations hasn't passed, and at least he can be placed in our database.
SD: I know someone personally who pressed charges against him in the U.S.
SH DASI: Seems he is on the CPO radar. What is the status of that case legally? Did the relevant DA take it up? If there's enough of a group of Americans, especially across state lines, they can take it to the FBI and try to get the feds involved.
SD: He was convicted in the one case. I'm not sure beyond that. The FBI may need more than one case to get involved.
SH DASI: So then is he in the sex offenders database? That would be valuable information to share. If your friend has his case information and legal name, that would be super helpful. He may even be in violation of his parole / release. That would give more teeth to excluding him.
AC DASI: That's great to hear. It seems that if he was convicted, he shouldn't be allowed at RY! the FBI generally deals with crimes that cross state lines.
SH DASI: Lots of convicts and sexual offender felons are 'allowed' at events like Ratha Yatra --- in that it's a public event. He certainly shouldn't be encouraged or garlanded. But unless he's violating the terms of his parole or release, there's no law preventing convicts, even sex offenders, from attending public events.
DD: But he also goes to ISKCON temples and ISKCON children in India go to his house regularly.
SS: I know him, but had no idea until now… they are covering for him.
RRB: I say spread the news so that any children who are near him are protected.
PADA: Why has none of the parents / authorities had this guy charged? Or have they? Or what? ys pd
SD: My friend pressed charges against him which led to a conviction.
PADA: OK good, so that means ISKCON should make a registry of these people and alert all temples to have these people identified. Abusive people seem to float around without any sort of coordinated effort to identify and contain them. A web site with reports would make a good start. Unfortunately, there does not seem to be a lot of interest in this since some of the leaders would be on that site. ys pd
SD: One of the issues is that ISKCON is not a law enforcement agency like the police / courts are who can keep public sex offender registries. ISKCON's CPO can place restrictions on child abusers, restricting them from leadership roles, but there is a legal issue with broadcasting the names of the abusers.
PADA: Then there should be an internal CPO admin at each temple who does have a database of known ISKCON offenders and that could be a private site. And that person would be on the lookout and alert temple leaders. People who go to temples regularly should have a criminal background check done on them by temple leaders in any case.
PADA: Why has none of the parents / authorities had this guy charged? Or have they? Or what? ys pd
SD: My friend pressed charges against him which led to a conviction.
PADA: OK good, so that means ISKCON should make a registry of these people and alert all temples to have these people identified. Abusive people seem to float around without any sort of coordinated effort to identify and contain them. A web site with reports would make a good start. Unfortunately, there does not seem to be a lot of interest in this since some of the leaders would be on that site. ys pd
SD: One of the issues is that ISKCON is not a law enforcement agency like the police / courts are who can keep public sex offender registries. ISKCON's CPO can place restrictions on child abusers, restricting them from leadership roles, but there is a legal issue with broadcasting the names of the abusers.
PADA: Then there should be an internal CPO admin at each temple who does have a database of known ISKCON offenders and that could be a private site. And that person would be on the lookout and alert temple leaders. People who go to temples regularly should have a criminal background check done on them by temple leaders in any case.
There are lots of crooks out there who flock to ISKCON. I was once warned not to challenge a GBC guru because his bodyguard had just got out of prison for 7 years after chopping up his wife with a sword and killing her. In any case ISKCON should have its own internal registry or CPO acting as their agents, and they should have their own process of containing abusers from being around children etc. ys pd
AC DASI: If someone is on a sex offender registry, isn't that public?
SD: Yes. I don’t know his legal name.
AC DASI: My point being that anyone can share what is public information.
LS Dasi: Search the Dru Sjodin National Sex Offender Public Website. Heading to nsopw.gov—coordinated by the Department of Justice—is the first step to identifying sex offenders in your community. May 4, 2021
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SD DASI: We need both his first name and last name for this; your friend who hit a conviction seems to be the only person who could help.
AC DASI: I actually know a LOT of the sex offenders in my community and beyond. Unfortunately. (it comes with being an older generation, abused gurukuli, and having many friends who are in the same category). My point was about iskcon not being "able" to share names of abusers. once someone is on a sex registry, it's public info, so iskcon could have *at least* a consolidated registry of so called devotees who have been convicted of sex crimes.
LS DASI: Right. Got it.
JD DASI: Must be Dalim Sarkar, as Sarkar is his family's surname - and yes, as far as I have always known, he was abused as a child in Mayapur gurukula during the Bhavananda years, for he must be about 45 by now ...
PADA: Yes, one of the abusers who came to USA and abused kids in Satsvarupa's school was still only a teenager, who had been molested in Mayapur. That is why I said it is a program of webs, nests and coordination. And they are spawning and creating more molesters. They knew this person was an abuser in the previous zone, and he went to other's zones with no restrictions, and after he left Satsvarupa's zone he just moved on to another zone, and no warnings were sent etc.
AC DASI: If someone is on a sex offender registry, isn't that public?
SD: Yes. I don’t know his legal name.
AC DASI: My point being that anyone can share what is public information.
LS Dasi: Search the Dru Sjodin National Sex Offender Public Website. Heading to nsopw.gov—coordinated by the Department of Justice—is the first step to identifying sex offenders in your community. May 4, 2021
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SD DASI: We need both his first name and last name for this; your friend who hit a conviction seems to be the only person who could help.
AC DASI: I actually know a LOT of the sex offenders in my community and beyond. Unfortunately. (it comes with being an older generation, abused gurukuli, and having many friends who are in the same category). My point was about iskcon not being "able" to share names of abusers. once someone is on a sex registry, it's public info, so iskcon could have *at least* a consolidated registry of so called devotees who have been convicted of sex crimes.
LS DASI: Right. Got it.
JD DASI: Must be Dalim Sarkar, as Sarkar is his family's surname - and yes, as far as I have always known, he was abused as a child in Mayapur gurukula during the Bhavananda years, for he must be about 45 by now ...
PADA: Yes, one of the abusers who came to USA and abused kids in Satsvarupa's school was still only a teenager, who had been molested in Mayapur. That is why I said it is a program of webs, nests and coordination. And they are spawning and creating more molesters. They knew this person was an abuser in the previous zone, and he went to other's zones with no restrictions, and after he left Satsvarupa's zone he just moved on to another zone, and no warnings were sent etc.
And all sorts of molesting was going on in Mayapur and those of us complaining about these things were booted out and silenced, and we still are not very welcome at this stage. We dissenters are clearly identified and banned, the perps are not. And that has been the pattern the whole time. They spawned and created many molesters who were molested. ys pd
SD: Festivals are not the only issue. He attends the temple as well. At this public event he played djembe alongside the kirtan leader and he was one of the few people who was garlanded. Giving preferential treatment to child abusers is not a good look for a spiritual society.
LEP: As far I can't stand child abusers I would love ckn them up, still even Jagai Madai was given the holy name by Lord Chaitanya . As long he is there in public chanting a holy name and hopefully receiving a maha garland and not a threat.
SD: Festivals are not the only issue. He attends the temple as well. At this public event he played djembe alongside the kirtan leader and he was one of the few people who was garlanded. Giving preferential treatment to child abusers is not a good look for a spiritual society.
LEP: As far I can't stand child abusers I would love ckn them up, still even Jagai Madai was given the holy name by Lord Chaitanya . As long he is there in public chanting a holy name and hopefully receiving a maha garland and not a threat.
DD: His victims won't want to go, nor will other victims. ISKCON cannot give places of respect to abusers or that re-victimizes the abused.
SD: If he is there then his victims will not want to be there. Who should get preference to attending the festival? The victim or the abuser?
LEP: The victims will have mercy of Krsna anyway, the abuser needs mercy desperately. You all need to look for legal justice. Not otherwise he will receive his karma anyway. At the same time he needs to do some service to the Lord even if he sinful. The victims should do legal action and be more spiritual and at the same time he should be kept away from children. But he will not abuse on harinam and possibly his heart cleansing a bit so there is some hope he will give up abusing.
SD: We can't read people's minds, but we can create an atmosphere that is welcoming to survivors of child abuse, and we can restrict child abusers from being around children. This is common sense. Here in Hillsborough one man's past history of child sexual abuse was actively hidden by the ISKCON temple management and as a result the parents did not know he was a sexual child abuser -- and then he sexually assaulted a 2 year old girl at the temple. This can be prevented through education and awareness, and placing restrictions on confirmed child abusers.
People can practice Krishna Consciousness at home. It is a privilege to have the association of devotees, it's not a right that everyone gets to have.
LEP: I didn't say they have to go to the temple serving but harinams and ratha Yatra different.
SD: Harinams and Rathayatras are an extension of the temple property. It's the same community coming together to chant Hare Krishna, just in a different setting. Victims should always be given preference over their abusers.
LEP: No it isn't an extension, it is a public place you don't have a right to stop people going on that no matter what. Not by law and not any way. Plus if you legally don't take steps against a person you don't have right to do anything against him. Not the soul the abuser and if you don't do legally anything you leave it in Krsnas hand He will give whatever karma he deserve. But Street harinams for everyone.
SD: If he is there then his victims will not want to be there. Who should get preference to attending the festival? The victim or the abuser?
LEP: The victims will have mercy of Krsna anyway, the abuser needs mercy desperately. You all need to look for legal justice. Not otherwise he will receive his karma anyway. At the same time he needs to do some service to the Lord even if he sinful. The victims should do legal action and be more spiritual and at the same time he should be kept away from children. But he will not abuse on harinam and possibly his heart cleansing a bit so there is some hope he will give up abusing.
SD: We can't read people's minds, but we can create an atmosphere that is welcoming to survivors of child abuse, and we can restrict child abusers from being around children. This is common sense. Here in Hillsborough one man's past history of child sexual abuse was actively hidden by the ISKCON temple management and as a result the parents did not know he was a sexual child abuser -- and then he sexually assaulted a 2 year old girl at the temple. This can be prevented through education and awareness, and placing restrictions on confirmed child abusers.
People can practice Krishna Consciousness at home. It is a privilege to have the association of devotees, it's not a right that everyone gets to have.
LEP: I didn't say they have to go to the temple serving but harinams and ratha Yatra different.
SD: Harinams and Rathayatras are an extension of the temple property. It's the same community coming together to chant Hare Krishna, just in a different setting. Victims should always be given preference over their abusers.
LEP: No it isn't an extension, it is a public place you don't have a right to stop people going on that no matter what. Not by law and not any way. Plus if you legally don't take steps against a person you don't have right to do anything against him. Not the soul the abuser and if you don't do legally anything you leave it in Krsnas hand He will give whatever karma he deserve. But Street harinams for everyone.
DD: No, he also goes to the temple. And so do other known abusers.
LMG: It is an oversimplification to say that an abuser needs Krsna's mercy more than the victims of said abuser. If a victim took their own life, wouldn't you think they need Krsna's mercy more? i think so. but even so, it's not for you or me to decide who needs the mercy more. but as SD said, the INNOCENT victims should always be given preference over their abusers.
Also, abusers are not going to get cured by devotee association. They need psychiatric help for any real chance of overcoming or preventing themselves from committing abuse.
DD: Victims are taking their own lives because they see nothing is being done to correct their abusers from floating around.
SD: I'm going to play out a scenario. Confirmed child abuser goes on harinam, talks to people asking questions about the harinam, someone recognizes him as a child sex offender and stays away from the devotees, OR child sees parents talking to abuser and thinks it's okay to go off alone with this man as he was friendly with his parents. It's a dangerous, slippery slope - why risk the safety of the children?
LEP: Karmis would recognise him as sex offender? If I have child I teach not to go with anyone without me. Not even with my friends and if I want my friends take my child I will tell my child this will pick you up. You train your child and a child sex offender shouldn't go close to schools nurseries etc . Harinam is other thing plus you don't have to be friendly with him just because he is on harinam.
VEG: You are the one who said the abuser needs more mercy than the victim. But who gave you the authority to make such a statement? You also say the abuser needs to do some service.. just because they shouldn't be allowed to be at certain places doesn't mean they can't do service or practice spiritual life. like i said, you are oversimplifying it. abusers and other criminals are very welcome to practice krsna consciousness. in fact there is an iskcon prison ministry helping criminals do just this from behind bars! but the victims should be the ones who feel safe at temples and festivals.
You have brought up jagai and madhai multiple times. They asked for forgiveness, which lord nityananda gave. most of the abusers in iskcon have not asked their victims for forgiveness! so that's pretty much a moot point.
DD: And ISKCON still promotes Lokanath swami as a guru despite knowing he is an abuser.
LB DASI: Jagai and Madhai were greatly sinful. After they received the mercy they did not sin any more. They showed remorse!
ZB DASA: You would have to get rid of their current president and their board members who housed and defended the three times accused child molester also allow another accused child molester to live at the temple. The current president was also going to marry a well-documented ex guru GBC child molester.
SAD: We should definitely have a public database of any "devotee" who has been convicted.
G DASI: Wow! I know Dalim since he was a child in Mayapur. Met him in 1986 and I know he was abused in the gurukula there but I didn’t know he became an abuser even though I knew that unfortunately the abused many times becomes an abuser. Really the temples and congregation should know . I’m in shock and I feel very sorry for everyone affected with this kind of situation.
VC DASI: My husband went thru that, saying ABS isn’t going around raping molesting. I’m sad that happens to him but not an excuse for numerous kids he has abused. We were friends with him till we found that out and done. Yea nice guy abs with a past that can’t be forgotten especially when they go around telling ppl how it wasn’t a big deal
JD: She knows very well - she is a longtime devotee activist / advocate of the abused...
SD: ME DASI has done monumental service in the area of child protection in ISKCON. Please look her up. She ran Chakra and facilitated and encouraged much conversation towards child protection, she has written articles and spoke with many ISKCON leaders about stronger child protection and she published a book on the Hare Krishna movement which included child protection in ISKCON.
LS Dasi: Still, his question is extremely morbid and nauseating. Well informed / educated adults are capable of understanding the meaning of what implies sex abuse on children. Especially sexually abused boys. Sorry S DASA Sir, never done any drugs / alcohol in my life and ... No, I don't have a nickname either. Old enough to be a grandmother.
RS DASA: When I lived at the Dallas ISKCON temple in 1994 there was a visiting Indian man who assaulted a little boy. The boy told and the pervert got on a plane and flew back to India. The manager of the temple said that the Indian authorities would deal with him when he got back. Im sure nothing happened to him.
AC DASI: That kind of thing happens *far* too often. What's worse is when temple management informs a child abuser that the police are on their way, so they better leave quick.
JH DASA: If the ISKCON Child Protection Office report concluded: "Unlikely that he will be able to keep himself aloof from bad association and from controlling his sexual urges." Yet nothing is enforced to keep children protected.
…Then why rely on a broken system to fix a problem?
Clearly temples are not enforcing any outcomes of many child abuse cases.
Why rely on a broken system to try and fix a problem that never ends?
Go over the heads of those who can’t do their service properly, and protect our children.
Go to the police and file an independent report. Clearly it’s necessary
ZB DASA: You would have to get rid of their current president and their board members who housed and defended the three times accused child molester also allow another accused child molester to live at the temple. The current president was also going to marry a well-documented ex guru GBC child molester.
SAD: We should definitely have a public database of any "devotee" who has been convicted.
G DASI: Wow! I know Dalim since he was a child in Mayapur. Met him in 1986 and I know he was abused in the gurukula there but I didn’t know he became an abuser even though I knew that unfortunately the abused many times becomes an abuser. Really the temples and congregation should know . I’m in shock and I feel very sorry for everyone affected with this kind of situation.
VC DASI: My husband went thru that, saying ABS isn’t going around raping molesting. I’m sad that happens to him but not an excuse for numerous kids he has abused. We were friends with him till we found that out and done. Yea nice guy abs with a past that can’t be forgotten especially when they go around telling ppl how it wasn’t a big deal
JD: She knows very well - she is a longtime devotee activist / advocate of the abused...
SD: ME DASI has done monumental service in the area of child protection in ISKCON. Please look her up. She ran Chakra and facilitated and encouraged much conversation towards child protection, she has written articles and spoke with many ISKCON leaders about stronger child protection and she published a book on the Hare Krishna movement which included child protection in ISKCON.
LS Dasi: Still, his question is extremely morbid and nauseating. Well informed / educated adults are capable of understanding the meaning of what implies sex abuse on children. Especially sexually abused boys. Sorry S DASA Sir, never done any drugs / alcohol in my life and ... No, I don't have a nickname either. Old enough to be a grandmother.
RS DASA: When I lived at the Dallas ISKCON temple in 1994 there was a visiting Indian man who assaulted a little boy. The boy told and the pervert got on a plane and flew back to India. The manager of the temple said that the Indian authorities would deal with him when he got back. Im sure nothing happened to him.
AC DASI: That kind of thing happens *far* too often. What's worse is when temple management informs a child abuser that the police are on their way, so they better leave quick.
JH DASA: If the ISKCON Child Protection Office report concluded: "Unlikely that he will be able to keep himself aloof from bad association and from controlling his sexual urges." Yet nothing is enforced to keep children protected.
…Then why rely on a broken system to fix a problem?
Clearly temples are not enforcing any outcomes of many child abuse cases.
Why rely on a broken system to try and fix a problem that never ends?
Go over the heads of those who can’t do their service properly, and protect our children.
Go to the police and file an independent report. Clearly it’s necessary
KE DASI: lol this post is now making the rounds in mayapur, everyone’s discussing. I’m horrified how many people didn’t know.
DD: They cover up everything, and then children get molested, and then they act like someone else is to blame. Experts at passing the buck.
SD: Good, let truth be known.
KE DASI: I see them coming to defend him on this post already. it’s so sad. he didn’t rape me so therefore he couldn’t have raped anyone ?!? it’s such terrible logic and this is how more kids end up getting abused.
S DASI: It is terrible logic and I see it being used with other abusers as well like Laxmimoni and Lokanath. It’s like saying because a serial killer did not kill everyone he knew, then he must not be a serial killer.
DD: They cover up everything, and then children get molested, and then they act like someone else is to blame. Experts at passing the buck.
SD: Good, let truth be known.
KE DASI: I see them coming to defend him on this post already. it’s so sad. he didn’t rape me so therefore he couldn’t have raped anyone ?!? it’s such terrible logic and this is how more kids end up getting abused.
S DASI: It is terrible logic and I see it being used with other abusers as well like Laxmimoni and Lokanath. It’s like saying because a serial killer did not kill everyone he knew, then he must not be a serial killer.
AC DASI: Typical. Way too many people do that ... covering up for the criminals.
S Devi Dasi: Someone could be assigned to approach him, tell him that he is a known pedophile, and cannot take part in the kirtan party. He will be closely followed all day, and cannot talk to any women or children. That someone must be bold and fierce. No law breaking, but make him uncomfortable and unwelcome. It can and must be done.
VC DASI: Unfortunately when the temple President allows this person to be around come to temple abs as my husband said above. She herself houses a three time molester and is engaged to known guru who fell down and is another molester. There’s nothing more that can be done but to remove ourselves from that disgusting situation and all that participate and are buddies and are supporters -- and are just as culpable.
GVC: Very interesting. I was hanging out with him when I was in Hawaii right before pandemic. He was at the temple and had no issues being amongst the other devotees. This is the first time I've heard of him being this way. We share cooking as a hobby and had a bonding session over this. I need to be better informed or someone needs to regulate.
VC DASI: We bonded very well with him too. Being a kuli in gurukul in Mayapur with husband loving Prabhupada. Loved going to his abs the bengalis homes then found out in 2019. I’d say that was it. Then finding numerous cases cpo has and him being banned in few east coast temples. The tp and some devotees know but don’t care. Apparently molesting is not a big deal amongst “devotees” and that is why this problem is never fixed.
BKS DASA: Totally man! I know him from years ago, when I was a brahmacari in the Brooklyn temple. I still say hi to him sometimes. Omgfg! What is wrong with these people!
AC DASI: I'm guessing you won't be saying hi to him since finding this out?
BKS DASA: If I do seem again - this will be the first point of "discussion" - for damn sure! The last time this happened, I gave someone a beat down in the street, in front of the temple in Vrindavana!
AAD: Surely he is on some kind of register.... he should have conditions if he was ever convicted. Conditions that stipulate he cannot be around kids.
CW: Iskcon Hawaiian HI Govindanandini Dasi / Haricakra Dasa
RS: Why isn't he in jail? ISKCON is not above the law.
SD: He seems to move around a lot and he preys on children in different parts of the world, which I imagine complicates things.
SSD Dasi: Hare krishna to all the devotees of isckon. I am from mayapur india ... I am ss dasi and i am 18 years old.. I am studying in 11th grade.. Mr. Dalim / Damodor -- I know him he is from mayapur. I heard that he is born in mayapur and he is old gurukuli. I am not his relative -- I just see him in 2019 when he is come from US to visit his family. His wife is our teacher we went to his house when he was here also. He is always welcoming us and we call him jethu that means big father in bengali and we all are comfortable with him.
If he is a child abuser than why he is to good with us. I am not only one girl we are lots of girls and boys in mayapur. You can't ban him.
SD: I'm glad you have a friendship with Dalim. No person is all good or all bad, but there is confirmation that he seriously abused children, and as a result, parents should know not to leave their children alone with him. And to protect his past victims, he should not be allowed at temples. Temples should be a safe space for survivors of sexual abuse to go and not have to worry about bumping into their abuser.
DK DASA: This is just sentimentalism. Many criminals are friendly. But it won't change the crime.
RDA: I have personally known him. Me and my sister regularly. Going to his house in Mayapur he was very person. He never talk badly with us and he protect us like our father. You don't say this thing to our jethu Dalim /Damoder das. We aluay fill safe with him when we go to temple or auy other place
SD: I will write what I wrote to the person above you: I'm glad you have a friendship with Dalim. No person is all good or all bad, but there is confirmation that he seriously abused children, and as a result, parents should know not to leave their children alone with him. And to protect his past victims, he should not be allowed at temples. Temples should be a safe space for survivors of sexual abuse to go and not have to worry about bumping into their abuser.
SS DASI: How did you find about his background?
SD: He sexually abused a friend of mine. As well as those mentioned in the report (not named). And now through this post I am finding out he abused others as well.
SS DASI: Took place in USA or India?
KSA: In which year did he abuse your friend because from 7 years he was in India with his family.
SD: The CPO report on him was written April 14, 1999 based on an investigation done in July 1991 (before the CPO was formed in 1998). That is what I referenced when I wrote this post, along with my friend pressing charges against him. After this post, others commented (see above) that their friends and family were also abused by him.
Yes time should not be a factor. That is why the statute of limitations are opening up all over the country, so victims can come forward whenever they are ready. The average age of a child sexual abuse survivor to come forward is age 52.
Y Devi: Did anybody make a complaint to the Hawaii police ?
VC DASI: As far as we none were abused in Hawaii this is other states and india
Y Devi: If he is a convicted pedophile he should not be around children. Police should be informed.
VC DASI: Like I have said in numerous comments we do not go to the temple anymore due to this problem and issues of child abuse supporters being in leadership at this temple. As far as I was told by one of the abused that they had made a claim with the police and the police are looking for him in those states so I don’t know what all is going on.
SN DASI: Is there any way to read the full CPO report?
SD: I posted it.
A Roy: This is totally rubbish can you show us evidence and proof?
SD: I posted the CPO report below. Also my friend pressed charges against him in the U.S. And after I wrote this post, two people commented above that he abused their friends & family. Also, someone private messaged me that he sexually abused his stepdaughters.
RB: Really if somebody talking bad about your father like person that means it not rubbish.
SD: It's not personal. It's about keeping our children safe.
A Roy: For you kind information he is not criminal. And yes its personal mataji because you are only showing that dalim is one person who just abuse someone. Did he today on 17 of January 2022?
TDS: Hare krishna mataji sorry but it's not personal. He is my husband and father of 5 kids with black color hair with 2 wife....... sorry for this but he is not child abuser and he take cares of all of us 5 kids and me and his family in india.
VC DASI: Like I have said in numerous comments we do not go to the temple anymore due to this problem and issues of child abuse supporters being in leadership at this temple. As far as I was told by one of the abused that they had made a claim with the police and the police are looking for him in those states so I don’t know what all is going on.
SN DASI: Is there any way to read the full CPO report?
SD: I posted it.
A Roy: This is totally rubbish can you show us evidence and proof?
SD: I posted the CPO report below. Also my friend pressed charges against him in the U.S. And after I wrote this post, two people commented above that he abused their friends & family. Also, someone private messaged me that he sexually abused his stepdaughters.
RB: Really if somebody talking bad about your father like person that means it not rubbish.
SD: It's not personal. It's about keeping our children safe.
A Roy: For you kind information he is not criminal. And yes its personal mataji because you are only showing that dalim is one person who just abuse someone. Did he today on 17 of January 2022?
TDS: Hare krishna mataji sorry but it's not personal. He is my husband and father of 5 kids with black color hair with 2 wife....... sorry for this but he is not child abuser and he take cares of all of us 5 kids and me and his family in india.
A Roy: We need proof.
DD: People here are testifying he is a molester, that is the proof.
VC DASI: FYI most times when one is molested the proof is the person saying and others saying. I was molested -- not raped -- so it won’t show when they medically check me. So screw your proof. You and all supporters are what’s wrong with iskcon today because you don’t want to believe that someone you trust could do something heinous like violate a child.
I’m just commenting to your asking proof. He did molest or rape me but there’s so many people that came forward and Iskcon child protection has a case and he is not allowed in any temple. I contacted them and was told that.
SD: Here is Dalim / Damodara's report:
Official Decision
Dalim dasa
This judgment, decided on April 14, 1999, was rendered in accordance with the guidelines for adjudicating cases of child abuse established by the ISKCON Child Protection Task Force Report, ratified by the ISKCON Governing Body Commission. This judgment is the official decision of the ISKCON Central Office of Child Protection (ICOCP) on the child abuse case of Dalim dasa.
In July, 1991, an investigative team, consisting of Tosan Krsna dasa, Adikarta dasa, Bhaktarupa dasa, and Dayarama dasa, conducted an investigation into allegations of child abuse in the Bhaktivedanta Gurukula Village school in Mayapur.
Based on that investigation they issued a report, dated July 11, 1991. On the basis of this report it has been determined that Dalim dasa engaged in child sexual abuse. The report states:
"Dalim, aged 14. Repeatedly abused at a young age and was involved with many other boys. Was cooperative with the investigation. Unlikely that he will be able to keep himself aloof from bad association and from controlling his sexual urges. Recommend that he be removed from the community."
The report lists Dalim dasa as a serious perpetrator, meaning that the abuse included penetration. He also goes by the name Damodara.
Based on the July 11, 1991 report, the ICOCP has decided that:
Dalim dasa should have no connection with the functions of any ISKCON organization, nor should he visit ISKCON property, until he is psychologically assessed by a mental health professional approved by ICOCP. This psychological assessment should focus on Dalim’s potential danger to minors.
If the psychological assessment is sufficiently favorable to Dalim, with regards to the risk he poses to children (e.g., no risk or very low risk), then Dalim may visit ISKCON centers and perform service for ISKCON under the following conditions:
1) He should not reside or stay overnight on ISKCON property or the property of an ISKCON affiliate.
2) Dalim dasa must show this document to the temple president or project manager of any temple or project that he visits. That is, the authority of the temple or project must be fully informed of the contents of this decision before Dalim is allowed to visit or perform service at a temple.
3) Dalim must not have contact with minors. His service should have no connection with children (under 18). Additionally, the temple president or project manager must take full responsibility for assuring that when Dalim visits ISKCON property he will have no access to minors.
4) If any of Dalim’s abuse victims attend a function at an ISKCON temple, Dalim must leave the premises, unless he has obtained uncoerced, written permission from the victims. Dalim should not reside in the same community as any of his former abuse victims unless he has obtained written permission from them. He should not pressure or attempt to force them to provide such permission.
5) Dalim should not lead kirtana or give class on Krsna conscious philosophy on ISKCON property or at an ISKCON function.
6) Depending on the results of the psychological evaluation, ICOCP may require Dalim to receive therapy. If so, Dalim must fully cooperate with ICOCP in this regard in order to be able to have any connection with ISKCON.
7) Dalim dasa cannot hold any positions in ISKCON.
8) If Dalim violates the dictates of this Official Decision, then he can have no association with ISKCON temples or projects until his case is reviewed by ICOCP.
The ISKCON Central Office of Child Protection understands that Dalim dasa's acts of child abuse occurred when he was an adolescent, and therefore this case requires special sensitivity. Also, we understand that Dalim may have suffered child abuse when he was a child under the care of ISKCON. Therefore, the ICOCP is prepared to assist Dalim by providing funds for his therapy, or for other purposes, such as his educational or vocational development. Also, the ICOCP will help Dalim in any way it can to fulfill the requirements of this Official Decision.
The restrictions described in this document constitute the minimum restrictions that an ISKCON entity must place on Dalim dasa. If an ISKCON temple or project wishes to place more severe restrictions on Dalim they may do so, although it is expected that the ICOCP will be consulted before this happens.
According to the ISKCON Child Protection Task Force Report, Section 5, in cases where an allegation(s) of child abuse are determined to be valid, the accused may appeal the Official Decision to the GBC Executive Committee and the ISKCON Minister of Justice. The Official Decision described in this document is effective immediately, and the perpetrator must abide by its guidelines during the appeal process, should he choose to appeal this decision.
Judges serving on this case were: Laksmimoni dasi, Kalakantha dasa and Nanda dasi. The Director of ICOCP at the time of this decision was Dhira Govinda dasa.
EW DASI: So Dalim was a victim himself as a child of abuse in ISKCON? If so, this makes the whole thing more sad. The victims become the victimizers. That means the people who set this up are more guilty.
SD: It really does.
RDA: Mataji why are you blaming someone? After 35 years?
AJD: Dalim is a victim too -- of our Gurukula system. Has there been any proof or cases that he has continued this behavior? He was 14 and should have been given help right away. The board of people investigating does not impress me.
I don’t know any details of his life since but if what he did when he was 14 was the last of this then I don’t have a problem with him attending a Rathayatra festival. He can still be a devotee. He isn’t on a Vyasasana or managing big ISKCON projects or giving class like so many other adult abusers in ISKCON.
But I don’t know enough about his life to judge him.
SD: Yes, he is a victim and he is an abuser. However, not all victims went on to be sexual abusers. After Dalim / Damodara abused children in Mayapur and Bhubaneswar, he came to America and sexually abused his stepdaughters as well as others.
SD: Here is Dalim / Damodara's report:
Official Decision
Dalim dasa
This judgment, decided on April 14, 1999, was rendered in accordance with the guidelines for adjudicating cases of child abuse established by the ISKCON Child Protection Task Force Report, ratified by the ISKCON Governing Body Commission. This judgment is the official decision of the ISKCON Central Office of Child Protection (ICOCP) on the child abuse case of Dalim dasa.
In July, 1991, an investigative team, consisting of Tosan Krsna dasa, Adikarta dasa, Bhaktarupa dasa, and Dayarama dasa, conducted an investigation into allegations of child abuse in the Bhaktivedanta Gurukula Village school in Mayapur.
Based on that investigation they issued a report, dated July 11, 1991. On the basis of this report it has been determined that Dalim dasa engaged in child sexual abuse. The report states:
"Dalim, aged 14. Repeatedly abused at a young age and was involved with many other boys. Was cooperative with the investigation. Unlikely that he will be able to keep himself aloof from bad association and from controlling his sexual urges. Recommend that he be removed from the community."
The report lists Dalim dasa as a serious perpetrator, meaning that the abuse included penetration. He also goes by the name Damodara.
Based on the July 11, 1991 report, the ICOCP has decided that:
Dalim dasa should have no connection with the functions of any ISKCON organization, nor should he visit ISKCON property, until he is psychologically assessed by a mental health professional approved by ICOCP. This psychological assessment should focus on Dalim’s potential danger to minors.
If the psychological assessment is sufficiently favorable to Dalim, with regards to the risk he poses to children (e.g., no risk or very low risk), then Dalim may visit ISKCON centers and perform service for ISKCON under the following conditions:
1) He should not reside or stay overnight on ISKCON property or the property of an ISKCON affiliate.
2) Dalim dasa must show this document to the temple president or project manager of any temple or project that he visits. That is, the authority of the temple or project must be fully informed of the contents of this decision before Dalim is allowed to visit or perform service at a temple.
3) Dalim must not have contact with minors. His service should have no connection with children (under 18). Additionally, the temple president or project manager must take full responsibility for assuring that when Dalim visits ISKCON property he will have no access to minors.
4) If any of Dalim’s abuse victims attend a function at an ISKCON temple, Dalim must leave the premises, unless he has obtained uncoerced, written permission from the victims. Dalim should not reside in the same community as any of his former abuse victims unless he has obtained written permission from them. He should not pressure or attempt to force them to provide such permission.
5) Dalim should not lead kirtana or give class on Krsna conscious philosophy on ISKCON property or at an ISKCON function.
6) Depending on the results of the psychological evaluation, ICOCP may require Dalim to receive therapy. If so, Dalim must fully cooperate with ICOCP in this regard in order to be able to have any connection with ISKCON.
7) Dalim dasa cannot hold any positions in ISKCON.
8) If Dalim violates the dictates of this Official Decision, then he can have no association with ISKCON temples or projects until his case is reviewed by ICOCP.
The ISKCON Central Office of Child Protection understands that Dalim dasa's acts of child abuse occurred when he was an adolescent, and therefore this case requires special sensitivity. Also, we understand that Dalim may have suffered child abuse when he was a child under the care of ISKCON. Therefore, the ICOCP is prepared to assist Dalim by providing funds for his therapy, or for other purposes, such as his educational or vocational development. Also, the ICOCP will help Dalim in any way it can to fulfill the requirements of this Official Decision.
The restrictions described in this document constitute the minimum restrictions that an ISKCON entity must place on Dalim dasa. If an ISKCON temple or project wishes to place more severe restrictions on Dalim they may do so, although it is expected that the ICOCP will be consulted before this happens.
According to the ISKCON Child Protection Task Force Report, Section 5, in cases where an allegation(s) of child abuse are determined to be valid, the accused may appeal the Official Decision to the GBC Executive Committee and the ISKCON Minister of Justice. The Official Decision described in this document is effective immediately, and the perpetrator must abide by its guidelines during the appeal process, should he choose to appeal this decision.
Judges serving on this case were: Laksmimoni dasi, Kalakantha dasa and Nanda dasi. The Director of ICOCP at the time of this decision was Dhira Govinda dasa.
EW DASI: So Dalim was a victim himself as a child of abuse in ISKCON? If so, this makes the whole thing more sad. The victims become the victimizers. That means the people who set this up are more guilty.
SD: It really does.
RDA: Mataji why are you blaming someone? After 35 years?
AJD: Dalim is a victim too -- of our Gurukula system. Has there been any proof or cases that he has continued this behavior? He was 14 and should have been given help right away. The board of people investigating does not impress me.
I don’t know any details of his life since but if what he did when he was 14 was the last of this then I don’t have a problem with him attending a Rathayatra festival. He can still be a devotee. He isn’t on a Vyasasana or managing big ISKCON projects or giving class like so many other adult abusers in ISKCON.
But I don’t know enough about his life to judge him.
SD: Yes, he is a victim and he is an abuser. However, not all victims went on to be sexual abusers. After Dalim / Damodara abused children in Mayapur and Bhubaneswar, he came to America and sexually abused his stepdaughters as well as others.
AJD: I totally agree. I didn’t know if cases since he was 14. That changes my view absolutely. Perhaps this should be included in your post so that it doesn’t sound like he only did this as a child.
MP DASI: Sigh ..... smh ...... they needed to prosecute. He needed to be legally baned from all temples....he needed to be arrested, convicted, a restraining order baring him from all temples. So that he can never come back.
MP DASI: Sigh ..... smh ...... they needed to prosecute. He needed to be legally baned from all temples....he needed to be arrested, convicted, a restraining order baring him from all temples. So that he can never come back.
G DASI: Do you have the link of the sexual offenders in ISKCON? As you see many of us that knew Dalim since he was little knew he was abused like many others in the gurukula but didn’t know about him abusing others after the years
SD: I don't have a list.
RSD: It says Laksmimoni dasi was a judge on the case? Wasn’t she a child abuser also? Is she the same devotee who taught girl gurukulis and beat and humiliated them or do I have her confused with someone else?
SD: Yes, she has restrictions placed on her has a result of an investigation done by the ISKCON Child Protection Office.
RGD: As an ex-kuli, I am so impressed with your work and active diligence. Bravo and thank you.
G Dasi: I tried to look in the CPO site and I didn’t see anything. Frustrating .
SD: Because of the legal issues, the CPO can't publicly share a list of child abusers.
T Dasa: So after all that investigation and decision he came to the US lived in the Brooklyn temple under Romapada Swami's care. ....... seems to me the bigger problem is Iskcon itself.
V Das: I think the legal Issue is that CPO or GBC do not usually press charges against abusers. That’s in order to protect Iskcon. The problem is that there is no official public or police record and that leaves Iskcon open to legal trouble.
RSD: It says Laksmimoni dasi was a judge on the case? Wasn’t she a child abuser also? Is she the same devotee who taught girl gurukulis and beat and humiliated them or do I have her confused with someone else?
SD: Yes, she has restrictions placed on her has a result of an investigation done by the ISKCON Child Protection Office.
RGD: As an ex-kuli, I am so impressed with your work and active diligence. Bravo and thank you.
G Dasi: I tried to look in the CPO site and I didn’t see anything. Frustrating .
SD: Because of the legal issues, the CPO can't publicly share a list of child abusers.
T Dasa: So after all that investigation and decision he came to the US lived in the Brooklyn temple under Romapada Swami's care. ....... seems to me the bigger problem is Iskcon itself.
V Das: I think the legal Issue is that CPO or GBC do not usually press charges against abusers. That’s in order to protect Iskcon. The problem is that there is no official public or police record and that leaves Iskcon open to legal trouble.
M DASI: We encourage and even facilitate reporting to police where ever possible. It is not discouraged at all.
T Dasa: And the person may be banned from that local temple..... but they are free to go in another temple and congregate without any issues...... Iskcon needs to step up and take some blame for extremely poor and terrible managing
T Dasa: And the person may be banned from that local temple..... but they are free to go in another temple and congregate without any issues...... Iskcon needs to step up and take some blame for extremely poor and terrible managing
VMG: I had no clue about any of this. I met him about 9 years ago when he was temporarily in new england. he and another friend were here for work and they wanted to cook the sunday feast at the boston temple.
NNH DASA: What I dont understand is if this initial investigation took place in 1991 why did it take until 1999 for this to be written. I met Damodar and Uttam his brother in New York in 1995, they were serving in the Brooklyn Temple, and would have been on religious VISA.
EC DASI: All these early mayapur boys went thru hell. I was there. They wore rags, ate disgusting scraps of food, were beaten and sexually abused repeatedly. They all looked so lost, broken and sad, I remember Dalim. A little angry boy.
SD: The CPO can only do so much. In theory it's great, but it needs the support of the leadership, which I find is sorely lacking. Not just financial support for practical resources like staffing, etc. but also moral support.
The ISKCON Child Protection Office was formed in April 1998. When they opened, they announced to ISKCON members worldwide, "We are handling all child abuse cases in ISKCON, past and present" and subsequently were handling somewhat.
AC DASI: Can you clarify for me? did he abuse children when he was an adult, or only when he was 14?
V DASA: As it happens neither CPO or GBC have functioned well when it comes to protecting children. CPO seem obviously weak as they have no real power.
AC DASI: No, he kept abusing children past the age of 18.
V DASA: Don’t worry we all continue to support you. In whatever way. You’re right this can only be resolved when GBC realise its importance.
V DASA: Don’t worry we all continue to support you. In whatever way. You’re right this can only be resolved when GBC realise its importance.
SD: Thank you Prabhu.
AC DASI: If it had been only when he was a child, i would have viewed it a bit differently. But he went on from there, and many people would have known that.
EC: It’s clearly a rotten society. Does it make you feel special to call them out?
VC DASI: GBC is not discouraging reporting? "Not discouraged at all," that’s a big fat lie. GBC member and guru devamrita swami discouraged my mother in law from going to the police and saying your husband doesn’t want this and will leave you if you do so. Gbc is bogus!!
S DASA: What about his family in India? Why bring this up when it will upset them?
SD: What about the devotee children that Dalim has harmed? What about preventing future harm from devotee children?
PADA: First of all, the leaders of Mayapur should be held accountable and judged for this whole chain of events, because they are the orchestrators of the whole molesting empire, webs, nests, infrastructure, defense system etc. Jayapataka swami personally had me removed from ISKCON, and vilified, demonized etc. when I was bringing this problem to his attention in 1979. JPS is the efficient cause of the subsequent abuse, including Dalim's case. Dalim's family should be aggressively addressing the root cause of the whole process. We should not only address the result, we have to look at the cause. We cannot cure cancer with a band aid, we have to look into the whole process that got the cancer going from square one. Dalim's friends should be addressing how he came into this mess at the start ... ys pd
KED: The fact that he’s yet again married with kids is just more proof that this needs to be talked about and understood more. His wife should have had the opportunity to know his history before marriage. but ultimately his choices are his and so are the consequences. and unfortunately for his new wife and children, they will also have to experience the consequences of his actions. it’s very sad. but it’s not us that is at fault for that, it’s dalim.
SD: Dhira Govinda who was the first Director of the ISKCON Child Protection Office said in an interview in 2020:
"Whatever parents do, let parents be INDEPENDENTLY thoughtful, not just parents but ALL individuals, but parents especially are responsible for care and education of their children.... if there is some sort of depravity or corruption organizationally, parents can collectively say “this isn’t right" and start a reform movement."
AND
"Parents should cultivate a culture where they are not dependent on the local GBC body for their children’s protection, and if the parents DO count on the GBC to protect their children, it is not a good idea."
Sulochana said, this is a
Child raping sampradaya.
BADRINARAYAN SWAMI: This (from Badri) shows their attitude and their priorities. Both are absolutely outrageous:
ReplyDelete"We on the GBC executive committee are now dealing with the fried, angry, bewildered, and or disheartened disciples of Harikesa Maharaj. The recent events have been devastating on them and the temples and areas where they are concentrated. I cannot imagine just casually listing Lokanath Maharaj as a sexual abuser...it would be like a bolt of lightening out of the sky on the hearts of so many innocent people.
I think it is too much for them and too much for ISKCON especially when there is no clear or present danger. Lokanath Maharaj would be finished as a preacher and probably would retreat to a cave in the Himalayas if not worse. What he did, was caress a little girl, on top of her clothes, one time, one stroke. I am not an apologist for this but put in perspective, along with his whole psychological test results...the response seems way, way over the degree of the crime.
His disicples have all been informed and anyone he initiates is suppose to also be informed. We even wrote out an exact script so we are sure that they get a clear and standard picture."
JM: Mayapur: The Temple of the Vedic Misunderstanding. They are simply trying to exploit being in the dham ... to make a donations business from the pilgrims.
ReplyDeleteThey are mundane men posing as saints. Call me a demon ... I don't care ... I for one am VERY glad they are getting sick and dying there. We need that rat's nest cleared out. Let them go to the planets of bogus gurus and clear out of here.
I would rather see empty land there with nothing on it ... than a big marble castle made for those fools to sit in big seats. The bigger their building is ... the bigger their ego is.
They never cared for the kids there. I know kids who are victims of that place ... who will never set foot there ever again. They just wanted some kids to make photos of little kids to collect money for that place. The money did not go for taking care of the kids.
Bhakti Vikas swami says we need to train people. Training people to rape other people? That is the state what they have come to? I am not surprised at all ... except for one thing. Why is it taking so many years or even decades for all this to get flushed out?
Why was this allowed to go on and on for such a long time? All this was known a long time ago ... and people are just now realizing it is a problem? Or they know it by now and still do not think it is a problem?
What is a problem in their estimation? I know ... there is a problem when the donations go down and their salary is in trouble. These people are greedy money changers in the temple. Jesus did not like them and we should not either.
To take children to their hellish place is a crime against children ... and everyone involved is part of the karma of it all. All of the molesters and all their helpers are one big rats nest. No one should remain silent ... when all this is now out in the open. Silence means accepting. Anyone accepting is going to get a severe reaction.
Oh yeah ... they are already getting a reaction. For one who has been honored ... infamy is worse than death. All of them will be recorded permanent as infamous child abuser enabling or enacting. They were already sued in Texas ... and they still ask for proof? They are desperation stage. They are already famous all over the planet as child abuser incorporated ... and they think ... no one knows?
This is called delusion. And more and more every day ... people all over the world know ... they are delusional fools. And diabolical towards children.
M Dasi: Bhakti Vikas swami is against us mothers. Are we mothers or masters? Not important is it? We did not get the "special training" ... so we are outsider fringe.
ReplyDeleteWe were trained different ... to love and care for children ... so we are not in their circle. They are not training anyone properly ... otherwise all this children abuse would never have happened. Ever!
When there is an epidemic of child abuse ... there is an epidemic of low lifes and low class and perverted class at the wheel. They are all part of it ... knowing or not knowing.
Some knew something and others knew everything ... but ignorance is no excuse. How could anyone not know this is a children destroying program ... at this late stage?
What more "evidence" do they need? Children have been killing themselves. Most children are boycotting the religion. Many children hate the religion. Where is the evidence? Evidence of ... what?
Their program destroyed these children ... and they still need evidence there is a problem? They don't give a hoot ... that has always been the whole problem start to finish. No amount of evidence will convince a motivated fool.
I am glad more people are seeing this REALLY IS A PROBLEM. And if the fools who made all this problem ... in the first place ... won't deal with it ... then the rest of us should! And we will!
LW: Industrial levels of child rape ... by making their own society's children into ... raping machines. This is always the way of the demons ... they attack the children first level of attack.
ReplyDeleteLook at Kamsa, Hiranyakasipu, the demon who killed the sleeping children of the Pandavas ... list is endless. That is the way of the demons. They are always going to do that ... because that is their nature. Rape, pillage, kill the children also. That is the story of ISKCON in nutshell.
The demons know when they destroy the children ... they destroy the entire whole society ... by killing its roots. Kill the roots ... and the plant will die.
This was their plan all along. Kill Prabhupada ... kill his disciples by removing all of them ... then go after their children. No one is spared ... except maybe sometimes ... the people on payroll. But I know big leaders whose kids also got molested. Even payroll people might have to sacrifice their children in this slaughterhouse.
It is worse than karmi school which are mental slaughterhouse. GBC school is physical torture, mental torture, sexual torture, every kind of torture. That way ... most of these kids will hate Krishna.
And then these demons are very happy ... we killed Krishna's devotees since we could not kill Krishna direct ... let us kill His children.
Then they wonder why they will end up on planets of dog stools where they will be worms in those dog stools? They do not believe in higher authority ... so they will be forced to.
Bhakti Vikas swami always has that smug ... know it all ... smile. He certainly knows ... by now ... exactly what their program is doing to children. That is why he is now deputized to be the current apologist. No other foolish person wants to sign up for the job. They told him to make a series of "guru videos" to prove that their whole child destroying program is bona fide gurus ...
No such luck. We can see through his bogus attempt. There is no justification for their industrial rape of children guru-school program. The more they try to paint themselves as bona fide ... the further into hell they will go. Don't be proud of your evil works ... then you go down further. Lack of remorse is not tolerated in Yama's court.
Industrial levels of rape does not happen by accident ... this is a well oiled machine ... with many people operating the factory. They are all going to have to suffer for destroying Krishna's children ... that puts them number one on Yamaraja's list of vicious offenders. They will go to worse hell than the regular persons. I can see why ex-children are praying for all of them to die.
I am glad this artificial bubble is bursting ... and people are finally seeing that there is huge buckets of blood all over the place ... that was hidden by the bubble ... truth always comes out eventually.
AC (Canada): Don't ever forget! People who oppose their molester program can be killed:
ReplyDeleteJanuary 1986: On or around this date in history 36 years ago, Radhanath Swami travels from New Vrindaban to Los Angeles ISKCON, reportedly to inform Ramesvara Maharaja, the zonal acharya for Southern California, about the New Vrindaban hit men in California and to secure the cooperation of Ramesvara and his California ksatriyas to assassinate Sulochan dasa. Ramesvara subsequently orders his ksatriya disciple, Jeffrey Allen Breier (Krishna-Katha), the head of security for ISKCON Los Angeles (who carries a hand gun) to cooperate with the New Vrindaban hit men who are hunting Sulochan in his zone.
Killing For Krishna, Chapter 9, “The Keystone Cops Surveillance Team,” pp. 225-226.
AD: Thanks for posting this. I took diksha from Lokanath in 1996, but in my personal meetings with him prior to taking diksha, he assiduously failed to disclose his sinful fall down of sexually abusing a young girl. He did this intentionally as he was more interested in making more and more disciples and protecting his elevated position within ISKCON.
ReplyDeleteHow do I know this? because he blatantly lied to me in Delhi in 1995, telling me he was waiting to give diksha in Prabhupada's centennial the following year, whereas we later came to learn he couldn't give diksha in 1995 because he was suspended by the GBC. Lokanath is a liar, false sannyasi, and a false guru, and only brings shame on Prabhupada's movement.
[PADA: Yep, Lokanath is a big supporter of Jayapataka and the Mayapur regime. They are all united in promoting deviants and pedophiles as acharyas. And their regime will ban, beat, sue and kill us for protesting. A violent pedophile worship cult.]