Delusions and Same Sex Marriages (M Dasi)

Same sex marriage-pada.

Yep, devotees are being banned, beaten, molested,

sued and assassinated.

Hysterical joke ain't it?

M DASI: This whole GBC guru program looks like a textbook example of  demoniac mentality:

“The demoniac person thinks: “So much wealth do I have today, and I will gain more according to my schemes. So much is mine now, and it will increase in the future, more and more. He is my enemy, and I have killed him, and my other enemies will also be killed. I am the lord of everything. I am the enjoyer. I am perfect, powerful and happy. I am the richest man, surrounded by aristocratic relatives. There is none so powerful and happy as I am. I shall perform sacrifices, I shall give some charity, and thus I shall rejoice.” In this way, such persons are deluded by ignorance.”

They don't seem to actually care if their gurus are illicit sex, or if their gurus are promoting gay marriages, or whatever it is. They also don't seem to care if thousands of people are kicked out ... thousands of children are molested ... "enemy" are killed ... bad publicity ... or whatever. And so what? ... if ISKCON goes bankrupted ... when they have money in their own banks collected by "their own disciples." 

They only care about "preserving" their personal situation ... and not ISKCON. We can point out their bad activity ... all the banned, beaten, molested, killed ... and it does not actually register as a problem for them. Because they are deluded by ignorance. So many enemies have to die ... so I can sit in a big seat. Who cares? 

No wonder Bhakti Vikas swami is making so many videos on "guru." Now they are just trying to justify all the horrors they have created ... in the name of "guru." They don't understand that people are not ever going to believe all this horror is the result of "guru." This is the result of demons ... acting like demons. 

Look at what they are allowing for "acharya" today in ISKCON: 

Compare today's posted words of ISKCON guru Hridayananda Goswami's with those of ISKCON founder Srila Prabhupada's:

Hridayananda: "Next, regarding homosexual marriage, perhaps the most remarkable fact about Shastra statements on homosexuality, is that Shastra practically does not speak about it. The only explicit reference I am aware of occurs in the Manu-samhita, which says that homosexuality is NOT a big sin, mahā-pātaka. The Bhagavatam makes no explicit statement about homosexuality."

Srila Prabhupada: "It appears here that the homosexual appetite of males for each other is created in this episode of the creation of the demons by Brahmā. In other words, the homosexual appetite of a man for another man is demoniac and is not for any sane male in the ordinary course of life." - purport to Srimad Bhagavatam 3.20.26

On the topic of Gay Marriage:

Hridayananda: "Regarding gay marriage, monogamy is always better than promiscuity. Prabhupada said that Krishna consciousness is a gradual process, and we see practically that most devotees cannot practice lifelong celibacy. Therefore for most devotees, gradual detachment practiced within a Krishna conscious marriage is the norm. In fact, society has a vital rational interest in encouraging all non-celibates to be monogamous, and not promiscuous, to avoid degrading society. Since Vaishnava Shastra does not speak about homosexuality, there is no rule either approving or forbidding gay marriage. There is also no injunction in Shastra that "marriage must be between a man and a woman."

Srila Prabhupada: Now the priestly order supporting homosex. I was surprised. They are going to pass resolution for getting married between man to man. The human society has come down to such a degraded position. It is astonishing. When I heard from Kīrtanānanda Mahārāja there is a big conference for passing this resolution. In India still, if there somebody hears about homosex... Homosex is there but nobody will support publicly. (indistinct). 

People are going down and this is the subject matter for priestly order? It may be subject matter for the legislator, priestly order, they are discussing for one week. Just imagine. Phalena paricīyate, one has to study by the result. Not that superficially you show that "We are very much advanced." Phalena, what is the result? Phalena paricīyate, your, that is in English word also, end justifies the means. The end is this (indistinct) "We are going to support homosex." Getting married. There are many cases the priestly order has actually got married.

Srila Prabhupada: Homosex, what is that religion? And they're passing to homosex, religion. They're getting married man to man. Most degraded.

We are very much advanced? No, very much deviation.

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JD: You know who is even worse than him? All the GBC leaders who see what he is doing but don't stop him, even though they have the power to intervene.
Those same GBC leaders who won't act will then point at people like us who raise these topics and say we are offenders.

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Prabhupāda: Yes. That you should realize. That is realization. We are trying to create a real spiritual path, not bogus, for livelihood. India's falldown is due to that spirit, that everyone takes everything for livelihood, that's all. Not only India; everywhere. India especially because poverty-stricken. So they take religion also as livelihood. Just like this Akhila Saheb. He wanted to chant Hare Kṛṣṇa mantra for livelihood. Do you know that?

Devotee (3): Yes.

Prabhupāda: How? How it was? No, you do not know. He was proposing that "I know how to cure disease by chanting Hare Kṛṣṇa." So he wanted to go to [chuckles] foreign countries to take this profession. That means an attempt to kill our movement in purity. Of course, nobody can kill our movement, but this sort of thinking is just against the purity of our movement: to utilize Hare Kṛṣṇa mantra for curing disease. [aside:] Oh, it will not stay.

Type: Conversation
Date: Dec. 14, 1970
Location: Indore

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