Sambhu Das
15 March 2021
Srila Prabhupada was poisoned, he told us so himself and there is no doubt about it. In Bhaktivedanta Manor I was sitting at Srila Prabhupada's feet while we waited for the car to arrive and take him to the Airport.
Srila Prabhupada was sitting quietly chanting and then said "There are Demons in our Movement. They dress like Devotees, but their business is to destroy this Movement. The Karmis and Atheists cannot stop this Movement, only from Within."
I was shocked and didn't understand who these Demons were, but Srila Prabhupada knew and he then requested that "When I am gone, when I have departed, you can show your Love for me by how you work together
to continue to push forward this Sankirtana Movement of Sri Caitanya Mahaprabhu."
to continue to push forward this Sankirtana Movement of Sri Caitanya Mahaprabhu."
Since then it has become very clear who the Demons are and they have effectively destroyed, not Srila Prabhupada's Movement, but the ISKCON Institution which he created to facilitate the worldwide development of his Movement. Current ISKCON is not Srila Prabhupada's Movement, it's simply a material facility which he utilised in his service and now it is effectively
defunct, no more than piles of bricks and sticks, an incorporated institution which the Demonic GBC and their Appointed Gurus utilise to obtain and maintain their Wealth, Status and Adoration.
defunct, no more than piles of bricks and sticks, an incorporated institution which the Demonic GBC and their Appointed Gurus utilise to obtain and maintain their Wealth, Status and Adoration.
Devotees keep trying to Save ISKCON, but it's beyond saving and in reality has nothing to do with the Mission of Srila Prabhupada -- other than -- as an obstacle and threat to it's success. It should be Rejected along with everyone still associated with it. Srila Prabhupada's Mission is the propagation of the Sankirtana Movement of Sri Caitanya Mahaprabhu and he never referred to ISKCON as his Mission or Movement.
We are the Hare Krishna People, he said because we chant this Hare Krishna Mantra and we are the Hare Krishna People.
Be happy and secure in such identification. We are Not ISKCON. We are Vaisnavas and the ISKCON Institution is now officially being advertised as, and even legally registered as, a Hindu Religious Institution which is completely against the principles of Vaisnava Philosophy as inculcated by our Acaryas. So it's just another Mundane Religious Sect and is of no use to anyone aspiring to advance in Krishna Consciousness.
Be happy and secure in such identification. We are Not ISKCON. We are Vaisnavas and the ISKCON Institution is now officially being advertised as, and even legally registered as, a Hindu Religious Institution which is completely against the principles of Vaisnava Philosophy as inculcated by our Acaryas. So it's just another Mundane Religious Sect and is of no use to anyone aspiring to advance in Krishna Consciousness.
Just the opposite in fact. It's business is to distract from the actual Mission of our Acaryas and the Krishna Consciousness of everyone associated with it is being effectively destroyed. Please work together to fulfill Srila Prabhupada's request that we continue to push forward Sri Caitanya Mahaprabhu's Sankirtana Movement and then the Demons will be Defeated.
If we don't then they have Succeeded.
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Krishna Avatara Dasa: Prabhupada said that gaudiya math had failed and so the same happened with iskcon
Yamaraja Das: I agree that there is a lack of transparency. However, it seems I did not articulate myself well enough. I think even if I tried to explain myself even further, those who have not studied Non Violent Communication or learned about the 24 different forms of road-blocks to effective communication
taught in Dhira Govinda's / David B. Wolf's courses, would not have the skills to understand my perspective. To become an effective communicator means to first become an effective listener I understand all the issues that are being addressed in the post.
I joined Srila Prabhupada's ISKCON 46 years ago. These issues are not new to me at all I spent the last eleven years looking for all of the disciples of Srila Prabhupada and created a sanga for them. I managed to located 900 of them. This is my service to Srila Prabhupada, because I have a little idea of how valuable each and everyone one of them are to Srila Prabhupada, and I know how rudely many were treated by the "Zonal Acaryas" of ISKCON that kicked my godbrothers and godsisters out of Srila Prabhupada's temples.
l also attempted to create a Ministry of Srila Prabhupada's Dlsciples to give them a voice to communicate with the GBC, and I presented this concept as well as the Srila Prabhupada's Disciples sanga to Gopal Bhatta Das, the head of the GBC Strategic Planing Team, who has a lot of influence in the GBC. When I met him in Mayapur two years ago, I presented this to him and he told me that according to a couple of his colleagues in our sanga of Srila Prabhupada's disciples, it was "just a bunch of Blah Blah Blah."
I realized at that point that there is not much hope to build a bridge to the GBC. In 2015 Niranjana Swami was supposed to sponsor our Ministry but his plane got stuck in the Ukraine when he wanted to be at the GBC Meetings to represent us. I have spent many years attempting to build bridges.
There are angry devotees that no one will want to hear from because they also don't know how to communicate, and there is a lack of interest in leaders wanting to hear from them as well. Best we find like minded devotees that have affection for us that we can serve Srila Prabhupada with. Lead without a title. If you are looking for people to demonize all of ISKCON with, then those are the kind of people you will attract.
S Dasa: Prabhupada said that Krishna have taken birth in the womb of ISKCON !! THE PROBLEM WAS OUR INABILITY TO ACT!!!
S Dasa: Prabhupada said that Krishna have taken birth in the womb of ISKCON !! THE PROBLEM WAS OUR INABILITY TO ACT!!!
Since 1974, Prabhupada wrote firmly in Srimad Bhagavatam Canto 4 Chapter 28 Texts 48 and 50 purports,... What to do !!! He "agreed " to the hijack of himself until 1977, to be placed in his Samadhi, to save his Very mission >>>>>> BUT NOT AFTERWARDS !! Allowing them to make 5,000 changes in Prabhupada's Sacred Bhagavad Gita As It Is and Srimad Bhagavatam, was the second way of >>>>>KILL GURU AND BECOME GURU !! WE ALLOWED IT !!
Only Sulocana and Puranjana Dasa Acbsp stood up at that time !!
Sulocana Prabhu, unfortunately was shot dead for stealing Prabhupada's legal documents and his " Will "! A VERY GREAT AND BLESSED SERVICE FOR GIVING HIS LIFE!!
Only Sulocana and Puranjana Dasa Acbsp stood up at that time !!
Sulocana Prabhu, unfortunately was shot dead for stealing Prabhupada's legal documents and his " Will "! A VERY GREAT AND BLESSED SERVICE FOR GIVING HIS LIFE!!
He was told that..... "He is dead meat on a hook, if he don't return them !! (Puranjana Dasa Acbsp)
Kirtanananda has Radhanatha Swami organized the hit and celebrated with devotees that night he died, said Puranjana Dasa Acbsp !!! Prabhupada made legal documents for legal action !!!
It is a Clear case for Pre Meditated Fraud and Conspiracy to seizing Prabhupada's ISKCON and all his followers Worldwide !! And conspiracy to murder Prabhupada'sphysical body, from all his " hidden" purports and conversations and the poision, tapes left !!
The outside devotees launching the legal Case,. empowering the inside devotees to stand for Prabhupada, WITH AN IMMEDIATE HIGH COURT INJUNCTION THAT YOU CANNOT BAN ANY DEVOTEE.. ... for reading, studying and discussing Prabhupada's legal documents and his " Will " !! (The dynamic Judge of America, the One and Only Judge Jeanine Pirro, >>»
AM I CORRECT HERE !!!
Nanda Gopal Swami:
Let's be specific.
Nanda Gopal Swami:
Let's be specific.
Bhavananda is presently controlling Tovp, which controls ISKCON. There is no other head willing to confront him, so he's just waltzed in and taken over again. You don't need to look anywhere else. He has always been in charge.
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