Friday, November 12, 2021

Radha Kund Devi Dasi / 3rd Generation Will Save the World

[PADA: Thanks for the link Bhakta Robin! 

(Why are the video's comments turned off?)

OK, she says there are demons in ISKCON, who want to destroy it. Yup!

She says -- there is harinama going on, ok but then the samkirtan party goes back to the temple and worships fallen souls as their acharyas. That is not the system. Worship of conditioned souls means, one remains on the conditioned platform. 

We can only elevate ourselves to the level of our guru, and if our guru is part of the illicit sex with men, women and children guru parampara, that will hamper our spiritual progress. As Srila Prabhupada says, worship of a less advanced guru hampers one's progress, and we see that all the time.

There are also many devotees (OK like Mukunda and the Hitler-anugas) who hope that there will be WW III soon, and that is going to fix a lot of stuff. Ummm nope. The world war will cause immense amounts of dead and suffering people and destruction of the mundane society's infrastructure - i.e. the system that runs everything at present and supplies everyone with their necessities, ok like food, clothes, medicine, housing, heating, city sewer and water, transport etc. 

OK these devotee who are wishing for a war are pretty desperate for a fix in our opinion. It is like fixing a mosquito bite on your hand, by chopping off your hand. It is way "over kill" -- no pun intended. 

It means they have run out of other options and hope a giant calamity will make everything become heaven. That really almost never happens. Why not try to preach the truth now, that this GBC guru program is a fraud? Why do we need to have WW III before we can start to do the right thing? It seems like a cop out from preaching the reality at present.

And! There will be lots of death, suffering, subsequent food shortages, people freezing to death with no electricity, babies dying of malnutrition, never mind all sorts of radioactive particles covering the earth. The devotees are going to get organized when that happens? And do mass harinama? Hee hee! Really? Nope, they will be just as dependent as the rest of the hapless citizens.  

If anything the devotees will be dysfunctional because they already are more dysfunctional than the mundane folks. So after the war the devotees will start to do harinama and preach. Preach what? That we need to worship a pile of debauchee's guru lineage? 

Will the third generation save things? It is a good idea, but very sentimental. We need to establish the foundation for them, and we are not. One victim of abuse said that unless we turn the abuse infrastructure around within in our lives, it will be part of our children's and grand children's lives. 

Then again, maybe some special souls will manifest. Well maybe, but they will have success only if they divorce themselves from the false ISKCON and reestablish the Prabhupada ISKCON. And did we forget to mention, promoting false gurus is what is maybe -- making WW III happen in the first place? 

Here is a recent note from PADA on these matters:

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In 1978 the 11 declared that they are the "acharya board" and their "acharya board" is beyond the jurisdiction of the GBC, because they said -- acharyas are getting dictation from Krishna and not the GBC. Subsequently, there has been thousands and thousands of incidents where these "gurus" do not follow GBC's mandates, rules and directives, because they think they are gurus -- i.e. those who are not subordinated to any managerial body and its dictates. And that is why Bhakti Chaitanya swami, Bir Krishna swami, Badrinarayan swami, Mukunda swami, Suhotra swami, Sridhar Swami and many, many others covered up numerous crimes, including crimes against children, because they often do not think they are subordinated to any rules, either GBC rules, moral rules, mundane legal rules, or otherwise. That is why the Berkeley police told me in 1980, there is Prabhupada, and then there are those who think they are Prabhupada (i.e. getting dictation from Krishna -- above the regulations of the law). Dr. Stilson Judah told me these "gurus" suffer from "antinomianism," lawless in the name of religion and "God's authority." And he said, "I hope to see you again next week, because at any second you could disappear due to their lawless manner of eliminating dissenters, such as yourself." In other words, Dr. Judah thought I would be assassinated very soon. So the antinomianism crew are generally not going to follow the rules, because they assume they are above the rules. In sum, we cannot expect that God's false / antinomian successor is going to follow any rules. So we should just expose them as false successors, as I have been doing. Correct me if I am wrong. ys pd

5 comments:

  1. LW: I forgot. WW III is going to fix the world. The third generation is going to fix the world. Someone else is going to fix the giant bogus guru mess we made. Means what?

    It means! We don't have to contest these false gurus now ... because someone else is going to fix it all ... later on. This is really just ... off-putting the issue. And if WW III is the way to fix things ... oh Lord in heaven. Are we in trouble or what?

    Illusion does not get fixed ... until the reality is being preached. And the reality is ... we cannot worship bogus gurus, either now or after WW III. Demons have entered the movement ... but who are they and what are they doing? Unless people know who they are and what is their evil system ... how can people fix it?

    WW III is not going to help these people understand who are the false devotees and what are they doing. After WW III most everyone will be looking for a can of beans ... they won't be going out doing harinama. They won't be on Vedic rural farms ... for the most part they will be ... where the bombs are going off.

    I also wonder why Robin blocked comments. I'd like to see what others think. WW III is going to make life harsh, austere and day to day survival ... it will not reestablish Lord Chaitanya's movement. It will reestablish nothing because the devotees who would reestablish it cannot even establish it under better circumstance. Why do the devotees who are going to reestablish the movement have to wait for WW III ... at all. Why are they not reestablishing now? This is like saying the second coming of Jesus will fix things ... except Jesus coming again will be nice ... their WW III fixing everything is ... more like a horror movie ... millions of people burnt to WW III toast is not going to be the solution ... if they already are not making the solution. It is an easy way out of contesting the status quo.

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  2. M Dasi: Heard that a millions times already ... Krishna will fix it. WW III will fix it. Third generation will fix it. Everyone else will fix it ... but not us.

    The first generation either created the molesting program ... or allowed it. Then the second generation was abused. The next generation of children ... coming up now ... are going to revive the whole thing ... because?

    What is the legacy they inherit? Bogus gurus ... mass molesting ... bankrupt society ... pedophile guru still being worshiped now. The third generation is up and coming now ... and they see the society is still worshiping a pedophile now in 2021.

    Yah! All that history is going be forgot in 2040 ... and we will have something new. How do we know that the pedophile guru lineage is going to end by then? What happens if the current pedophile guru system votes in more gurus ... who are the successors to the pedophiles ... and that pedophile's line is still going on in 2040? Where is any of this going to be stopped?

    Special people are being born all over the planet also not from ISKCON. All right ... but why would these special people want to participate in their guru parampara ... of illicit sex and pedophiles ... either now or in 2040? People see a pedophile is buried in a samadhi. What is her plan to remove that? She does not give any indication of how ... any of this will be changed.

    Oh yeah! Whole planet blown up and incinerated ... and that will change everything ... for the better. Better plan than what they are doing now? Best plan they can come up with? We have a pedophile guru program ... best fix is ... blow up the entire planet. We will give the third generation a pedophile guru line ... not resolved ... and a blown up planet ... as a bonus.

    This means ... these people are going more coo coo clocks. "It is the end of the world ... and we are glad that is coming. And that is our plan to fix the world"? The world is going to end! It is another apocalypse cult.

    You are right. They will say anything they can ... to avoid fixing their mess. Now they are going to hand the third generation a pedophile apocalypse cult ... I am not too impressed. If they need to ask why ... they should not bother asking.


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  3. SD Dasi: We need a WW III to fix ISKCON. Too late. They already created a WW III inside ISKCON ... and burnt it down to a rubble. After they burn down ISKCON ... let us burn everything else down. What kind of message of hope is that for the next generation ... in the first place?

    After everything burns down ... we are going to hand the ashes over to the third generation for them to heal it ... and make it better? A burnt down ISKCON and a burnt down world. That is our present from us!

    WW III already happened inside ISKCON. It is a rubble pile. Making another WW III will just bounce the ISKCON rubble. Why not get rid of the problems of ISKCON first ... and give the third generation something useful ... something that they will not have to rebuild from the ground floor ... because we burnt it to the ground for them already.

    These people really are clueless. The third generation is going to come from the second ... and they are already avoiding ISKCON. The people who are avoiding ISKCON are not going to give their children over to ISKCON. The third generation will save ISKCON, this is all sentimental word salad. When are they going to bring back the first generation, second generation, and help them regain confidence in the society? That is never discussed ... or is it just me?

    These people could be clueless ... or they know very well they have no plan to have it recovered in 2040. It is all bluff.

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  4. Bhakta A: I think it is same problem found ... in material society. We adults are going to pollute the entire earth. We make the water and air bad. This also makes horrible weather. This also destroys all the species. We are not worried. Our grand children will make it all better ... later on.

    Everything will get better ... later on. We don't have to get rid of the bogus guru program now ... someone else will do it for us ... later on. Except ... how will the grand children know they are supposed to get rid of the bogus guru program ... if we are not telling that now? We need to get rid of Lokanath now ... not later on when he will have his fanatics running ISKCON.

    Everything does not "get better" automatically ... later on. And yes ... if WW III is the path of making things better ... this is not even a good solution. So we should make a big mess ... throw our garbage on our children's doorway ... and let them clean it up.

    There does not seem to be any basic consideration for the next in line ... who will come take birth here. We should make a huge garbage ... and place that burden on our children ... it is not the same as the material society?

    What happens? if the people who make all this garbage are the same people who have to come back here and take birth .... in their own made garbage ... whether polluted planet or polluted ISKCON. I don't think they are taking this into consideration.

    They are too self absorbed ... and selfish ... to think they may be the people who have to reap what they sow. So we are going to make a bogus pedophile guru mess, and hand our mess over to Bhakta A. He will fix it ... for us? Does this even make sense?

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  5. PADA: Yep, that is the question I get to my blog all the time. Why are many / most of the critical articles and statements coming from -- the women? Where are the brave kshatriya fighting Bhagavad Gita warrior men? Even a CBS news lady told me -- if she saw someone sitting on a gold seat -- covered with the hands of little boys -- in her Church, she would have gone up and stopped that herself, never mind if they would have killed her. She said she would never tolerate that in her Church. She asked me, "don't your people read the Bhagavad Gita, which tells us to fight immoral people"? And then she pointed to some CBS TV footage she was showing me, "who are these guys"? Me: "Oh, they are the other ISKCON leaders." She: "And they are singing to this guy in the seat? That CBS lady has more realization than the whole lot of these people put together, and she has more kshatriya spirit than all these leaders put together. So all I can do is offer my humble obeisances to all the brave ladies who helped this children exploiting issue all along, including this CBS lady. I also have a male tik tok friend who was in prison for 10 years, and he said as soon as a child abuser comes in, he is trying to find a way to go after that guy. He told me there is zero tolerance for child abusers in the prison. Even they know better .... ys pd

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