Tuesday, October 20, 2015

Change Means Rascal!


Do not change what Krishna says!

[PADA: The GBC gurus are making all sorts of changes to Srila Prabhupada's books, despite Srila Prabhupada says "change means rascal." Of course, every day the GBC gurus make all sorts of other changes -- on their guru tattva, jeeva tattva, and so many other things, no one can count all these changes. 

For example, in 1978 the GBC said anyone who does not accept Sridhara Maharaja as the "advisor" of ISKCON is a demon who has to leave. Then in 1982 they said anyone who visits Sridhara Maharaja is a demon who is banned from ISKCON. 

Then in 1984 they said Narayana Maharaja is the GBC's shiksha advisor, rasika acharya and co-writer of GBC's papers like their "Guru Reform Notebook." Then in 1993 they said anyone who visits Narayana Maharaja is a demon who has to be banned. 

Meanwhile Gaura Govinda Maharaja said Srila Prabhupada's jeeva tattva is bogus and cannot be accepted. 

The GBC first of all said, no one can give advice to the acharya, since Krishna is advising the acharya direct. Then they said, their acharyas are under the authority of their Gaudiya Matha advisors and / or "guru advisory" commision leaders like Prahladananda, and any of their acharyas who do not accept the authority of the advisors has to be banned from the acharya post. OK and their advisors supported the idea that sexual predators, deviants, criminals and blasphemers are sometimes (or often!) Lord Krishna's successors and acharyas.

Then they started a guru tattva research program, after they were already gurus?

And first of all in 1978, the GBC said acharyas are always pure devotees, and anyone who questions that is banned. Then, in 1979 the GBC said sometimes acharyas are pot smoking illicit sex debauchees. Now they say its quite common that acharyas are fallen debauchees and indeed, acharyas fall down into debauchee behavior left, right and center. OK never mind they forgot, they first of all said its a severe offense to say acharyas deviate, and they banned anyone who said that in 1978. Its always changing. 

They also said Hrdayananda is a pure devotee and their main sanskrit scholar acharya, and he is indeed the Acharyadeva (the priest of the demigods), but now they say he is bogus and he is banned from ISKCON. The list of chopping and changing here is endless and could go on for 5,000 more pages. And people who record and protest their changes are sometimes banned, beaten and maybe killed.

However, changing the books is perhaps their worst deviation. Thus we tell people to make sure they are getting original editions of the books. ys pd]

http://www.iskcontimes.com/change-means-imperfect-knowledge/

Dhamaghosha das: Hare Krishna – Below we have three separate quotes by Srila Prabhupada where he simply and convincingly shows us neophytes that we cannot change-anything he says or writes. If one accepts Srila Prabhupada as Acarya and Vedic authority, then by principle, one cannot touch one word of the Acaryas writings. If one does so, that means his knowledge is imperfect, and he is a "demon" as Srila Prabhupada himself- calls him-be he a disciple or whomever. He is a demon, not a devotee !! Strong words to keep us off the sentimental platform of neophytes.

This book change business is 100% demoniac ! And anyone who follows in that way, is similarly possessed.

And if one doesn't like these conclusions, then go find yourself another guru, because he or she is not a follower of A C Bhaktivedanta Swami Srila Prabhupada, or the Vedic param para system …

Prabhupada: Yes. So we shall discuss again. So the same thing, it is chalked out by Krishna, and by parampara system we have understood this philosophy. Evam parampara praptam imam rajarshhayo viduhu [Bg. 4.2]. So keep this parampara system. This Vyasa-puja is parampara system. Vyasa-puja means to accept this parampara system. Vyasa. Guru is the representative of Vyasadeva because he does not change anything. What Vyasa-puja. What Vyasadeva said, your guru will also say the same thing. Not that "So many hundreds of thousands of years have passed away. Therefore I will give you a new formula." No. There is no new formula. [see how Jayadvaita and Dravida differ here from Srila Prabhupada]The same Vyasa-puja, the same philosophy. Simply we have to accept it. Then our life will be successful. Thank you very much.

Now we have to accept knowledge from Vedas, Vedic knowledge, not this rascal's knowledge. Rascal knowledge is that "Yes," as soon as he comes to the imperfect point, "yes, we are trying." You are trying. What is this trying? Trying means that your knowledge is imperfect. And another rascal will come, he will say, "Now here is the perfect." [Jayadvaita swami and Dravida das] And ten years after, another rascal will come,” No, this is not perfect. This is perfect.” This is going on. This is called scientific advancement. This is… Advancement means… 

But we don’t change our Vedic knowledge. We do not say, “Now, Krishna, five thousand years ago, said like this. Now we are advanced. We change this line.” Of course, others are doing. [like the GBC and their editors Jayadvatia and Dravida] In the scriptures… Just like the Christians, they are changing the words. 

But you cannot do that. Then where is the authority? If you change the word of the scripture, then where is the authority of the scripture? Just like in lawbooks, there is some law made already. Whimsically you cannot, I mean to say, erase the words and put something that "It should be changed like this." That will not be accepted. Law, if there is change… Actually, there is no change. There cannot be change. Real law means there is no change. Just like day and night, it is coming. The fortnight, the dark period and the light period, it is coming for millions and millions and time immemorial. The same law is going, going on. You cannot change. So as soon as you change, that means it is imperfect. You change.

So Vedic laws are not like that. You cannot change. Five thousand years ago Krishna said, sarva-dharman parityajya mam ekam sharaṇam vraja: [Bg. 18.66] "You give up all other religious principles. Simply surrender unto Me." We are preaching the same thing. No change. No change. There is no possibility of change. Then how Krishna is authority? So change means imperfect knowledge. This very change. 

And perfect knowledge… You will find that one who is very experienced medical practitioner, he gives you a prescription, and you visit him again and again, he gives you the same prescription unless you are cured. His prescription is so nice that he doesn't change. But a nonexperienced physician, every time you go, he will change the prescription. But actually, those who are experienced, he knows "This is the disease, and ultimately this medicine will cure. So let him repeat that medicine." So our is that platform. Harer nama harer nama harer namaiva kevalam [Cc. Adi 17.21]. We repeat only. We don't change: "Now hari-nama is not curing so let me add, instead of Hare Krishna, 'John Krishna,' if I may." No. No "John Krishna." (laughter) That same Hare Krishna must be repeated. And you will be cured. So change means imperfect knowledge. No change means that is perfect knowledge. So we follow that no change policy. No, not that because I think I have become now advanced, I change this to that. That mean I am not advanced. My knowledge is imperfect.Therefore I am changing.

Prabhupada: Then so shiksha and diksha-guru… A shiksha-guru who instructs against the instruction of spiritual, he is not ashiksha guru. He is a demon. Shiksha-guru, diksha-guru means… Sometimes a diksha-guru is not present always. Thereforeone can take learning, instruction, from an advanced devotee. That is called the shiksha-guru. Shiksha-guru does not mean he is speaking something against the teachings of the diksha-guru. He is not a shiksha-guru. He is a rascal.

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