Jake S. I have some questions. Why are some of the "Krishna" devotees promoting Hitler? And they have anti-Zionist propaganda on their site. Don't those Krishna devotees know that millions of German women were raped and murdered after WW II by the invading forces? And much of eastern Europe was handed over to the communists?
Hitler was hiding in a bunker when his citizens were being bombed, burned alive, raped and massacred like this. And half of Germany was burnt to the ground with millions killed. And in the end Hitler was getting 11 year old boys to go out and fight, because he was sacrificing his own country's children for no good reason. It was clear by then they were losing. So he was just using his own children as cannon fodder.
Why would they promote Hitler knowing he caused all this suffering and death to his fellow countrymen, and to the whole of Europe? And how is this part of the teachings of Krishna?
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PADA: First of all, one of the false gurus after 1977 was Hansadutta, who was always reading about Hitler. And he was also studying the methods used by Hitler's advisor Joseph Goebbels -- to create false propaganda to control the masses. And that was Hansadutta's favorite theme, "tell a lie so big no one would doubt it." And that is why Srila Prabhupada was disgusted with Hansadutta around 1974, and he made various statements that his followers have no interest in Hitler, and they should NOT read about or discuss Hitler.
So right away in 1978 the false gurus began to use the methods used by Hitler to control the society, and Hansadutta was acting as an "advisor" to their committee to promote these ideas of mass manipulation of the ISKCON's citizens. And that was their whole scheme, tell a lie -- that "we are God's appointed successors" -- a lie so big no one would doubt it. Well maybe, but at least some of us doubted it.
This particular UK site you mention all started a few years back when Mukunda, the leader of the current Hitler-anugas, began to promote his anti-Zionist anti "Illuminati" propaganda. Mukunda's team thinks the devotees should stop fighting the corrupt ISKCON leaders and instead take down the world's biggest government leaders aka the "Illuminati" / "New World Order" and / or "Jewish Bankers" and so forth, so he could divert the devotees away from the main problems facing the ISKCON society of the corrupt leaders there. They wanted to have all the devotees diverted over to fighting a phantasm problem, so they could save the real ISKCON trouble makers, and things like the criminal child molesting issue, from being addressed.
Most of the poor and economically deprived devotees could never, ever in a million years bring down "the world leaders and their banking system" in any event. For starters, many devotees are living a humble life with little to no resources. And no one else, even super rich and powerful people with big resources, has been able to bring down "the world banking system" in the past several thousand years anyway. So all of this was a giant diversion from square one. Srila Prabhupada said we should not discuss Hitler in any case since it is a waste of human life (see links below).
So originally Mukunda and his disciples like Sanat / Prahlad das / Dayalu Nitai's Hare Krishna Community (HKC Jaipur) / Peter / Pancali and assorted folks all wanted me to start to help them promote their anti Illuminati foolishness, along with the writings of Hari Sauri (Bhavananda's bucket boy) and Bhakta das (promotes Radhanath as a saint) citing that they are the real defenders of Srila Prabhupada because they are aligned with Hitler's disciple Mukunda, and the GBC's hand maidens and Radhanath lover's club leaders. However, the evidence is that Srila Prabhupada did not want us to get involved with all this Illuminati foolishness.
Moreover Bhavananda's and Radhanath's programs were sued for mass child abuse and many other crimes were going on in their regimes. So we need to promote Hitler, and promote the cheer leading people aiding and abetting crimes in ISKCON. In any case you are correct. Hitler simply burns down his own nation, he recruits 11 years old boys as soldiers while he hides out, and then millions of women are reported to be raped and killed. And that is the process these folks admire and want us to promote? And they are even angry at us for not helping them promote this foolishness.
This is an almost exact model of what happens in ISKCON. The leaders there created a hellish situation, where women and children have been exploited, while they are hiding out in their bunker / office. Then, when the crap finally hits the fan and they are being exposed, they simply scamper away, decamp, go off to live on their own, separated and away from the society -- the society that they had helped burn into ruins. And Hitler scampered off when the crap hit the fan in his situation. Identical ditto heads.
That is also what ISKCON's imperious leaders like Ramesvara, Jayatirtha, Hansadutta, Harikesh, Bhagavan, Rupanuga, Danavir, Vipramukhya and thousands of others did. They made a giant mess out of ISKCON with their false guru process, hiding out somewhere in their bunker / office. And when when the whole thing is collapsing and burning, then they just stroll away like nothing happened and let the women and children suffer inside that society, which is also what happened to the women and children post WW II under Hitler. Same identical pattern. Birds of a feather, flop together, as Sulochana said.
And thus -- good question -- why has the Sanat / Mukunda / Prahlad / HKC Jaipur folks liked this Hitler / GBC guru model of managing, and they are indeed angry we are not joining them in promoting it or its hand maidens? Well its pretty simply, the Hitler model of managing is almost identical to the GBC's method of managing. (A) Create a hellish situation for the citizens, then (B) leave, and go hide out somewhere in a bunker, while the women and children are being pulverized into dust. Wonderful process, lets re-create this mayhem all over the universe!
They are attracted to that model because that is the same exact model these same ideology disciples created for ISKCON. And the reason all of the above oppose PADA is because -- we are exposing that model of managing. And yes, these same people sometimes criticize us for "not chanting our rounds." In other words, only the people who follow God strictly are advocates of the GBC / Hitler / women and children exploiting process.
The same things that happen to us also happen in Nazi Germany, anyone who does not agree is tossed to the wolves, discredited, arrested, harassed, killed etc. And these guys love that process. In sum, the people who promote the Hitler process are the same people who promote the GBC process, because it is the same process.
However, I hope you understand that these folks are a teeny minority in the Krishna community. Almost no one agrees with these folks, and numerous Krishna devotees write to complain to me about these GBC / Hitler-anuga's people all the time. They are not following Krishna, they are following the people who toss women and children into hellish conditions -- and then run off to the bunker to hide, and maybe commit suicide like Hitler did. Anyway, have a look at some of our previous writings on this topic where it is explained in more detail.
Thanks for your interest,
Your servant,
PD
angel108b@yahoo.com
http://krishna1008.blogspot.com/2017/12/srila-prabhupada-defeats-hitler-anugas.html
http://krishna1008.blogspot.com/2017/11/the-hitler-prajalpa-program-update.html
Hitler was hiding in a bunker when his citizens were being bombed, burned alive, raped and massacred like this. And half of Germany was burnt to the ground with millions killed. And in the end Hitler was getting 11 year old boys to go out and fight, because he was sacrificing his own country's children for no good reason. It was clear by then they were losing. So he was just using his own children as cannon fodder.
Why would they promote Hitler knowing he caused all this suffering and death to his fellow countrymen, and to the whole of Europe? And how is this part of the teachings of Krishna?
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PADA: First of all, one of the false gurus after 1977 was Hansadutta, who was always reading about Hitler. And he was also studying the methods used by Hitler's advisor Joseph Goebbels -- to create false propaganda to control the masses. And that was Hansadutta's favorite theme, "tell a lie so big no one would doubt it." And that is why Srila Prabhupada was disgusted with Hansadutta around 1974, and he made various statements that his followers have no interest in Hitler, and they should NOT read about or discuss Hitler.
So right away in 1978 the false gurus began to use the methods used by Hitler to control the society, and Hansadutta was acting as an "advisor" to their committee to promote these ideas of mass manipulation of the ISKCON's citizens. And that was their whole scheme, tell a lie -- that "we are God's appointed successors" -- a lie so big no one would doubt it. Well maybe, but at least some of us doubted it.
This particular UK site you mention all started a few years back when Mukunda, the leader of the current Hitler-anugas, began to promote his anti-Zionist anti "Illuminati" propaganda. Mukunda's team thinks the devotees should stop fighting the corrupt ISKCON leaders and instead take down the world's biggest government leaders aka the "Illuminati" / "New World Order" and / or "Jewish Bankers" and so forth, so he could divert the devotees away from the main problems facing the ISKCON society of the corrupt leaders there. They wanted to have all the devotees diverted over to fighting a phantasm problem, so they could save the real ISKCON trouble makers, and things like the criminal child molesting issue, from being addressed.
Most of the poor and economically deprived devotees could never, ever in a million years bring down "the world leaders and their banking system" in any event. For starters, many devotees are living a humble life with little to no resources. And no one else, even super rich and powerful people with big resources, has been able to bring down "the world banking system" in the past several thousand years anyway. So all of this was a giant diversion from square one. Srila Prabhupada said we should not discuss Hitler in any case since it is a waste of human life (see links below).
So originally Mukunda and his disciples like Sanat / Prahlad das / Dayalu Nitai's Hare Krishna Community (HKC Jaipur) / Peter / Pancali and assorted folks all wanted me to start to help them promote their anti Illuminati foolishness, along with the writings of Hari Sauri (Bhavananda's bucket boy) and Bhakta das (promotes Radhanath as a saint) citing that they are the real defenders of Srila Prabhupada because they are aligned with Hitler's disciple Mukunda, and the GBC's hand maidens and Radhanath lover's club leaders. However, the evidence is that Srila Prabhupada did not want us to get involved with all this Illuminati foolishness.
Moreover Bhavananda's and Radhanath's programs were sued for mass child abuse and many other crimes were going on in their regimes. So we need to promote Hitler, and promote the cheer leading people aiding and abetting crimes in ISKCON. In any case you are correct. Hitler simply burns down his own nation, he recruits 11 years old boys as soldiers while he hides out, and then millions of women are reported to be raped and killed. And that is the process these folks admire and want us to promote? And they are even angry at us for not helping them promote this foolishness.
This is an almost exact model of what happens in ISKCON. The leaders there created a hellish situation, where women and children have been exploited, while they are hiding out in their bunker / office. Then, when the crap finally hits the fan and they are being exposed, they simply scamper away, decamp, go off to live on their own, separated and away from the society -- the society that they had helped burn into ruins. And Hitler scampered off when the crap hit the fan in his situation. Identical ditto heads.
That is also what ISKCON's imperious leaders like Ramesvara, Jayatirtha, Hansadutta, Harikesh, Bhagavan, Rupanuga, Danavir, Vipramukhya and thousands of others did. They made a giant mess out of ISKCON with their false guru process, hiding out somewhere in their bunker / office. And when when the whole thing is collapsing and burning, then they just stroll away like nothing happened and let the women and children suffer inside that society, which is also what happened to the women and children post WW II under Hitler. Same identical pattern. Birds of a feather, flop together, as Sulochana said.
And thus -- good question -- why has the Sanat / Mukunda / Prahlad / HKC Jaipur folks liked this Hitler / GBC guru model of managing, and they are indeed angry we are not joining them in promoting it or its hand maidens? Well its pretty simply, the Hitler model of managing is almost identical to the GBC's method of managing. (A) Create a hellish situation for the citizens, then (B) leave, and go hide out somewhere in a bunker, while the women and children are being pulverized into dust. Wonderful process, lets re-create this mayhem all over the universe!
They are attracted to that model because that is the same exact model these same ideology disciples created for ISKCON. And the reason all of the above oppose PADA is because -- we are exposing that model of managing. And yes, these same people sometimes criticize us for "not chanting our rounds." In other words, only the people who follow God strictly are advocates of the GBC / Hitler / women and children exploiting process.
The same things that happen to us also happen in Nazi Germany, anyone who does not agree is tossed to the wolves, discredited, arrested, harassed, killed etc. And these guys love that process. In sum, the people who promote the Hitler process are the same people who promote the GBC process, because it is the same process.
However, I hope you understand that these folks are a teeny minority in the Krishna community. Almost no one agrees with these folks, and numerous Krishna devotees write to complain to me about these GBC / Hitler-anuga's people all the time. They are not following Krishna, they are following the people who toss women and children into hellish conditions -- and then run off to the bunker to hide, and maybe commit suicide like Hitler did. Anyway, have a look at some of our previous writings on this topic where it is explained in more detail.
Thanks for your interest,
Your servant,
PD
angel108b@yahoo.com
http://krishna1008.blogspot.com/2017/12/srila-prabhupada-defeats-hitler-anugas.html
http://krishna1008.blogspot.com/2017/11/the-hitler-prajalpa-program-update.html
PADA: Yes, it makes no sense to say (A) the GBC is bad for mistreating women and children and violently repressing dissenters therefore (B) lets follow Hitler, another program that mistreats women and children and violently represses dissenters. OK (C) its the same program, different disguise.
ReplyDeleteThese people are like a puppy who is chasing his own tail and thinking he is making progress, when factually he is just going around and he stays in the same place. Right, we cannot replace one bad program with the same exact bad program, same wine in a different bottle. The women and children mistreatment program is the same program Pt. II, its not moving forward. And its only fooling a few foolish people that this is progress. Same rabbit in hat trick, using the same rabbit and same hat. And some folks cannot see that this is just a trick. Hee hee! YS PD