Bhakti Comes From Bhakti (Giriraja Swami)

[PADA: Bhakti comes from Bhakti? Sounds like word salad right out of the gate. No, bhakti comes from worship of Krishna's pure devotee. It does not come from worship of deviants and debauchees posing as gurus. 

And a newer devotee sent me a quote about how Harinama Samkirtan was used to reduce a plague in Calcutta. 

And this newer devotee asks -- it seems the GBC wanted to pollute if not get rid of Lord Chaitanya's Harinama Samkirtana movement, so they could have the earth suffer plagues? Good question! Yes, even ordinary people began to wonder, "where did all the Krishna's go to"? 

OK we all know what happened to the the devotees of God. They were banned, beaten, molested, sued and assassinated by the Giriraja program, that is where they all went to. As we all know (if we read shastra) the people who harass and harm the devotees of God have to go into the stone crushing rollers at Yamaraja's planet.]  

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OK I give up, what is an emeritus guru?

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Giriraj Swami (Glenn Phillip Teton): The same verse was quoted by Sri Chaitanya Mahaprabhu to Vasudeva Datta. Vasudeva Datta had prayed, “Let all the sinful reactions of all the living entities in the entire universe fall upon me,” and Lord Chaitanya became overwhelmed with love for Vasudeva Datta and began to tremble and weep out of affection for him."

Generally, we wouldn’t accept the sinful reactions of even one living entity. 

[PADA: Agreed, generally, we neophytes cannot imitate Vasudeva Datta and accept the sins of another living being. Correct. Only a qualified person like Vasudeva Datta can absorb other's sins, because he is pure and therefore has the protection of Lord Chaitanya. 

However, many of the alleged sin absorbing (diksha) gurus (or equals to Vasudeva Datta) in the Giriraja "guru parampara" system have been illicit sex debauchees and so forth. Thus "generally" no neophytes should accept sins, with the only exceptions -- unless one is a conditioned soul, or worse is inclined or prone to be a debauchee, and / or one is "2/3 show of hands voted in" to the Giriraja guru process. 

Then, the "general rule" that we neophytes should NOT accept sins is tossed out, because our ISKCON leaders can make exceptions for people who are conditioned souls, even those prone to be debauchees. And then ISKCON promotes these conditioned people that they voted in as our ISKCON gurus / messiahs who can absorb our sins like Vasudeva Datta. And then we have people asking for "prayers for guru maharaja who is sick (or falling down) from taking too many sins." OK but he has no authority to take others sins, nor is he on the platform of Vasudeva Datta or Jesus? 

Of course we never get any explanation how these neophyte persons -- or worse -- those prone to being debauchees -- can absorb sins like Vasudeva Datta or Jesus? When did Srila Prabhupada say we can jettison the general rule -- that neophytes cannot absorb sins? And we need to make 100s of exceptions to the general rule -- and vote in a pile of persons prone to being debauchees -- and have them advertised as equals to Vasudeva Datta and Jesus by declaring these conditioned souls to be diksha gurus (who can absorb sins like Vasudeva Datta).  

If we are therefore GBC approved / annointed / empowered / appointed (voted in) gurus -- then we can accept the sins of not only one person, but dozens or even thousands of other living entities, by advertising ourselves as their sin absorbing Vasudeva Datta / Jesus-like diksha gurus. So the general rule is, we neophytes cannot imitate Vasudeva Datta or Jesus, but the neophytes or worse the debauchee prone can become voted in as sin absorbing personalities (aka another Vasudeva Datta) in the Giriraja guru system.

At the same time, if Lord Chaitanya's movement was meant to save and help billions of people, and that movement is ruined by the Giriraja process, then they will be creating Vasudeva Datta process in reverse. These false gurus will be blamed for making the collective sins of the world increase, and thus they will have to suffer for a long duration in hell for making the sins of the entire world society get worse. 

Instead of relieving the sins of the planet, they increased the sins of the planet. So they will have at least partial result of the collective sins of the entire planet on their backs when they go to see Yamaraja, because they caused an increase in these collective sins of the whole planet. Instead of being able to take sins like Vasudeva Datta, they will instead be making for themselves a huge burden of sins on their backs, including that they increased the sin levels of the general society, that they will have no capacity to burn off. 

So Srila Prabhupada says, the sinful have to burn off their sins by long durations in hell, there is no other atonement process etc. So by causing the sins of the whole planet to increase, then one is acting as Vasudeva Datta in reverse, one is increasing the sins and not diminishing them. Krishna will never forgive these types of sin increasing folks, they are condemned.

Another Giriraja sin absorbing Vasudeva Datta Example

Where does Srila Prabhupada say we conditioned neophyte (sadhaka) devotees can accept the sins of one, or dozens, or worse -- thousands of other living entities? Didn't he warn us that if we allow -- even a few people -- to touch our feet randomly, we would be acting as diksha gurus, and that we would be taking their sins. And then we would fall down, get sick or both from taking said sins. And haven't a number of Giriraja's alleged Vasudeva Datta imitation diksha gurus not only fallen, but also got sick, and some died prematurely?] 

There is the famous story of Valmiki: Valmiki was a thief, but he wasn’t stealing for himself; he was stealing for the sake of his family. Then Narada came and exposed the fallacy of mundane family attachment. He spoke to Valmiki’s wife: “Your husband is stealing for your sake, not for his sake. You are enjoying because he is stealing for you. Will you at least take some share of the sinful reactions?” “No!” she said. “Why should I? He is the one who is doing the stealing, not me.”

[PADA: Exactly correct. The GBC gurus are thieves stealing the post of diksha guru from Srila Prabhupada. And the reactions from taking these stolen disciples has been causing them to suffer various reactions, as most of them already have been suffering. And it has caused the entire ISKCON to suffer from having these sin overloaded people strutting around acting like they are the next Vasudeva Datta or replacement for Jesus on the planet. 

And now Tripurari swami has had to have a heart surgery, how did you guess, some people said it was because he was taking other's karma, so we need to pray for him. Why would God want to save people who imitate Vasudeva Datta or Jesus? Sorry, God condemns these false Vasudeva Datta people to go to the most hellish regions of the universe, of course only people who read the shastra know that.  

And their never ending list of crisis and scandals has paralyzed the ISKCON movement with one big "crisis management problem" after the next trying to put out the fires created by these false gurus. Worse, their child molesting infrastructure eventually caused ISKCON to be sued for $400,00,000. And yet the leaders who were on the top deck, sitting at the helm and overseeing the society when all this was going on, are still the worshiped gurus of that society even now? 

And those of us who were trying to alert the society about the criminal child abuse and molesting -- and other criminal problems -- were banned, beaten, sued, and assassinated. And while that is all going on full tilt, that is the time to take "rasika lessons" from Narayan Maharaja?  

Encouraging neophytes to take sins causes them to suffer, 

if not die prematurely.

And their entire society will suffer for enabling.

Thus there has been an epidemic of: scandals, falling down, colasall lawsuits, horrific media accounts, alienation of the youth (and subsequent drug addictions, suicide of victims), and lets not forget all manner of physical sickness and ailments in their guru group, and so on and so forth.]

We don’t want to take anyone’s sinful reactions. Just our own sinful reactions are hard enough to tolerate. 

[PADA: OK but the new "general rule" is: the contaminated conditioned souls / debauchee prone can sign up for the job of being another Vasudeva Datta or Jesus in the Giriraja system, where maybe more than 100 people have been voted in as gurus. Never mind their gurus have been falling down into scandals left, right and center. OK Giriraja says we don't want to take others sins, so why has he and his pals been taking many disciples claiming to be equal to Vasudeva Datta and Jesus, claiming that they can absorb their followers sins as a diksha guru?]

"They can be liberated by your desire alone. Krishna fulfills the desires of His pure devotees. So by your desire He can liberate them without your accepting their sinful reactions.”

[PADA: Again only a person like Vasudeva Datta or Jesus can take sins without getting a reaction because they are pure persons.]

Many people heard Srila Prabhupada’s message, or Krishna’s message, but not all developed faith in it. The beginning of bhakti is faith (adau sraddha). Thus, when we ask how one gets bhakti, we really mean how one gets sraddha, which is bhakti in its initial stage.

[PADA: Why should people have faith in gurus who are falling down left, right and center?]

—Giriraj Swami

All glories to the founder fathers of the "illicit sex with men, women and children guru parampara"! Which Yamaraja's Dogs can hardly contain themselves from biting these people already! Did we forget to mention? Tamal is the prime suspect in the poison complaint from Srila Prabhupada? And his child molesting empire was sued in Dallas, the headquarters of the illicit sex with men, women and children messiah's project?

Lets worship the people who bury dead pedophiles in samadhi in the holy dham.
Then we wonder why the earth is experiencing: various crises and plagues?

"When the influence of the demons is too powerful, then the earth suffers various calamities."

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Sampradaya Sun: Giriraj Swami and his disciples put a great deal of undue pressure on new recruits to surrender to become initiated by him. He was essentially very Colonial in protecting his absolute position in South Africa and Mauritius, but in the end, his controversial dictatorial mood wasn't what cause his inglorious departure.

Even in Bombay, Giriraj Swami showed an infatuation for select subservient women. This tendency took on a whole new dimension in his zone. In Bombay, the Swami was surrounded by senior Godbrothers who essentially prevented him from going too overboard with respect to the opposite sex. But in the South African zone, his infatuation with ladies went to higher levels. 

In both Mauritius and South Africa he introduced a concocted program for his young, attractive women disciples. In order for these women to be awarded brahminical initiation from the so-called Spiritual Master, they were obliged to take a lifelong vow of celibacy. A majority of these victims were of Indian origin, but two of the participants were of European ancestry. 

The principle surviving member is Kuntidevi dasi, who still "serves" the Maharaja in Santa Barbara, California. The other wifely consort, just recently departed this world in her ashram in Vrindavan, was Arca-Vigraha dasi, a highly recognized and wealthy artist.

Out of the Swami's dozen or so celibate women disciples of Indian origin in Mauritius, one of the wiser ones wrote an in-depth report to the GBC authorities about Giriraj's insane program. She also reported that the Swami was spending many hours with individual women, behind locked doors. We don't know if the encounters went beyond intimately talking, in other words, if they were just subtle sex, but as a result of the report revealing this scandalous situation, Giriraj Swami was forced to leave his zone.

Arca-Vigraha built a nice ashrama in Vrindavan near the Krsna-Balarama Mandir. An opulent suite was created on the top floor for Giriraj Swami, and many of the female associates resided on the bottom floor, where Kuntidevi, Arca-Vigraha and all the others lived, served and worshipped their Lord and Master, Giriraj Swami. The GBC were fully aware of the scandalous background to this arrangement, but apparently they ignored the warning signs and allowed the situation to exist.

From the late 1980's until 1995, Giriraj Swami was living a very easy, idle life above the women's ashrama in Vrindavan. But out of boredom, he began traveling to nearby Mathura to intimately associate with B.V. Narayana Swami. Over the course of time, Giriraj Swami adopted Narayana's philosophical outlook, and this mentality gradually took form and became known as the GBC's "Gopi Bhava Club." 

Giriraj enthusiastically shared his pseudo-enlightenment with all his old-boys club buddies, beginning with Tamal Krishna Goswami. As a team, they soon influenced local personalities such as Bhurijana and Dhanurdhara. This Gopi Bhava Club contamination spread throughout the movement's senior leaders, infecting Satsvarupa, Sivarama, Indradyumna, Mahanidhi and many other sannyasis. 

The exclusive members of this raganuga-bhakti cult were chosen by the Swamis (Giriraj and Tamal Krishna) to enter into a raganuga-bhakti siksa relationship with Narayana Maharaja. There are many papers published here on the Sampradaya Sun that will give the reader a clear understanding of what the Gopi Bhava Club was about, and several are linked below.

For a few years, this deviation existed in full view of all the GBC. Finally, on account of many complaints from senior ISKCON members, the GBC body had to take action in the mid-90's, at their annual GBC meetings. The details of the behind-doors meetings of the GBC remain private to this very day. What we know is that the GBC publicly set down rules that essentially put an end to the Gopi Bhava Club.

[PADA: One thing we do know is that Gaura Govinda Maharaja objected when the GBC wanted to remove Tamal as an ISKCON guru.]

For the founder Giriraj Swami, who for many years had associated with B.V. Narayana and politicked to have him become the new successor Acharya of ISKCON, this decree was too much to swallow. "Those convinced against their will are of the same opinion still." Therefore, in September of the same year, the dynamic duo of Giriraj and Tamal Krishna accepted an invitation from Narayana Maharaja to be the guests of honor at Narayana's Spiritual Master Kesava's Math for a celebration of the anniversary of Srila Prabhupada taking sannyasa.

Giriraj Swami had authored many articles supporting the Gopi Bhava Club position and their need for association with Narayana. Disregarding the GBC mandate, he and Tamal Krishna both presented dissertations to the Mathura assembly. The recorded lectures were transcribed by Kurma Rupa dasa and distributed through the COM site.

This transcript caused the already concerned GBC to finally come to grips with the reality that they had a much more serious problem than first understood. They convened an emergency istaghosti on November 5, 1994. By reading the transcripts, everyone can get a true and accurate understanding of what was going in the mind of Giriraj Swami.

The GBC's final decree stated that Giriraj Swami was banned from living and visiting in Vrindavan. Suddenly, he had to renounce his "family" ashrama and his siksa guru, B.V. Narayana. Giriraj Swami Gopi, the founder of the Bhava Club movement, had been living like a sahajiya in an ashrama full of women, and he didn't voluntarily renounce his condemnable relationship with women simply because he was banned from the Holy Dham.

Of course, the GBC covered up this elephant in the living room… that throughout this period, Giriraj Swami was living the life of a sahajiya. I repeat that to this day, no women who have confessed to any gross sexual relationships with Giriraj Swami, but the absolute satiric conclusions concerning the actions, mind and words of genuine Vaisnava sannyasis were clearly disregarded by Giriraj Swami.