Friday, March 13, 2020

How Was ISKCON's Children's Abuse Suffering Covered Up?

Thanks Bhakta H. for your question about some of my God brothers (like Bhakta das aka William Benedict) calling my PADA writings "poop" and "smelly stools" or "verbal sewage" as Naranarayan das and others have called our writings. First of all, much of what we write are complaints using eye-witness accounts and testimony from ISKCON's victims. That would include Srila Prabhupada himself, complaining that he had been given poison. Not sure why all these complaints and accounts would constitute "writing about stools."

That means these victims are simply not important, or worse these victims are simply speaking about manure. This is how the victimizer regime has been allowed to carry on all along. Its an effort to minimize the weight of these complaints -- to save the exploiters. A newer person to the Krishna religion wrote to PADA just a few days ago, "It looks like ISKCON is an elevator stuck between floors, and the people inside are passing poop inside the elevator, and nothing can be done to move the stuck elevator." Interesting how someone folks would view all this.  

Anyway, its amazing that the ISKCON victim's testimonies are being called "smelly poop" by some of these "senior devotee" folks. Over the years we have posted probably thousands of eye-witness accounts of victimization in and around ISKCON, of course this is bad news for those trying to defend the regime, so they will try to discredit anyone forwarding these complaints. And a host of other people complained about our writings being some form of garbage (or sewage!) including: Sridhara Maharaja folks, Narayan Maharaja folks, Gaura Govinda Maharaja folks, GBC folks, and Rocana, Kailash Chandra, and so many others -- too long of a list to post herein.  

Self-evidently these PADA critics identify with the victimizers and not the victims. We are forwarding various testimony of odious treatment to senior devotee brahmanas, women and children victims of the GBC's guru process, and oddly -- we are thus "talking sh*t." Well yep, it would be if our critics happen to be one of the co-perps, cheer leaders, enablers and / or cover ups for the victimizers regime. Even rape victim women are sometimes told to shut up and "quit talking sh**" by the perps and victimizer process. This is another version of the same process, to silence and discredit the victims by using various tricks. An ex-kuli also wrote recently that ISKCON is full of molesters, sexual predators and -- their enablers and apologists.

Lets look at simply one example (out of many) of a "senior devotee" father who called me "the junkyard dog of ISKCON." OK, according to these folks I am "talking sh*t" and I'm writing about various pieces of junkyard garbage, or maybe smelly poops and stools. However, what we are really writing about are things like the mistreatment of -- very likely -- their own children and / or other vulnerable citizens in ISKCON (and how their victimization is often resulting in mass alienation away from the religion causing empty temples, an exodus to other camps, or even cases of depression and drug addiction, suicide etc.). 

Now, rather unfortunately one of the children of this above "senior devotee" who branded me as "the junkyard writer" later on committed suicide under a freeway overpass, leaving behind a suicide note saying "there is no place for me in my own religion." So I am writing about the bad plight of these children, including this senior devotee's own children. And this is why these people think I am talking about a pile of manure or junkyard materials? 

OK I am talking about YOUR kids, their peers, as well as the other devotee's kids, i.e. ISKCON's citizens. 

And then this poor "senior devotee's" child commits suicide, precisely because of the victimization and / or alienation I am describing herein in PADA's writings. OK so I am talking about perhaps -- or even very likely -- your own ISKCON kids or their peers, and therefore I am talking about sh**? ISKCON's kids are the actual topic of many of our posts, which really means: I am writing about poop and junkyard discarded materials? 

Many others tell us the same thing, PADA's writing about the children is maybe writing about poop as well. However, really I am writing about the plight of their OWN children in their OWN society. I am writing about how their OWN children from their OWN ISKCON are being abused, suffering, or alienated etc. And that would include perhaps -- or even in fact -- their own children. And yet they think this is all excessive noise about junk and maybe worse, a pile of poop? Nope, its their own children, and / or their own society's children -- who are the very junkyard junk, tossed away refuse and "poop" I am writing about? 

Amazing! I am complaining about their own children or their peers either being abused or alienated or both, or even feeling suicidal and so on and so forth. And yet this is all about junkyard junk and poop? Nope, I am writing about the collective children's situation and I am trying to assist these children victims. 

So this really is amazing. I am trying to defend and assist their own children, or the peers and friends of their own children, and they are complaining that anyone who is writing about the fate of our society's children, including perhaps their own, is writing about junkyard junk, stools and smelly poop. Then they wonder how come many / most of the children are feeling alienated? Then some parents wonder why more than a few of their own ex-children tell PADA, "we are the world's best example of varna sankara" (unwanted or cast away children). How did they get that impression?

Then again, we also said that we cannot change up the ISKCON pooja system to stop the worship of Srila Prabhupada and change that up to now worship 11 conditioned souls. How did you guess, more poop writing. Worship of pure devotees is evidently poop writing, and we should not try to defend the worship of the acharya as the bona fide process. Then they wonder why so many deviants are being worshiped as gurus in their society after 1978, when some of them are the ones who said our idea of worship of the pure devotee is poop writing?

Then again we said the books should not be changed. Yep, how did you guess, the books issue is also another smelly poop topic.

Then again we said there are crimes going on left, right and center, yep another poop patrol item. Who cares if ISKCON gets a bad reputation as a criminal operation, because -- we wanted it to smell like poop? Well you got what you wanted in that case!

Then again we said even Srila Prabhupada complained of being poisoned. More manure issues, for the defenders of the manure pile?

So all of these issues taken together: the ISKCON leaders's bogus guru issue; The child abuse issue; The book changes issue; The poison issue; The overall criminality issue with bad public media attention ad infinitum, are all stinky manure stories no one should care about. And we agree this is manure, especially for those who tried to cover up the smell of this manure pile. Sorry, this manure pile was not created by PADA, we simply reported on its creation, existence, and protective enforcer group.

So, as soon as we said deviants should not be worshiped as God's successive gurus and acharyas, either by the children or anyone else, we were checked and harassed, "Don't be offensive prabhu"! And as soon as we said Srila Prabhupada would not have made the mistake of creating 11 conditioned soul GBC as his appointed guru successors, we were checked, harassed, called ill names and banned. And so on and so forth. 

So we do believe that the GBC managers were mis-managing and essentially hi-jacking ISKCON on the one hand, and many rank and file people were assisting the pirates to take over the ship on the other by attacking us dissenters. Neither we should allow our children to worship the scholarly cheer leaders of the deviant gurus like Sridhara Maharaja, Narayan Maharaja, Gaura Govinda Maharaja and others. 

Anyway, we have been being attacked on a regular basis by some of our dear "senior God brothers." And they complained that we should not give a voice to the victims, even in some cases their own children, or even if one of the complaints is about poison and coming from Srila Prabhupada himself. And because they checked our progress, that enabled, empowered, and encouraged all this process of allowing child beater guys like Dhanurdar to stay floating around ISKCON, and to be burying deviants in the dham ad infinitum.

And then the Sanat / Mukunda / Prahlad / Janardan / Pancali / Krishna Kirtana / Dayalu Nitai's HKC Jaipur folks all joined in and started promoting Bhakta das, agreeing with him: That our promoting problems of the children of ISKCON is simply junkyard junk and manure stools; The worship of the pure devotee is stools; The original books are stools; The mistreatment of women issue is more stools; And even our promoting Srila Prabhupada's poison complaint is also stools, because everything we are promoting is stools. So yes, that is how we got to the current state ISKCON is in, the bad guys and then their enablers, cheer leaders, cover up crew and so forth suppressed us dissenting folks. 

And thus, even a newer person can observe, ISKCON is like a stuck elevator where the people inside are passing stools and it cannot be freed up. OK, that means once again, even a newer person can see we are simply reporting on the stuck elevator. This newer person knows we did not toss a wrench into the elevator shaft to stop the elevator and cause all this trouble, but we did report on it. 

And our opponents are the people who stopped us from trying to un-stick the stuck elevator. Its really all that simple. Anyway, we wish all these people well, however they might have to explain why the cries of help from their own society's children was branded as smelly poop, or even why the complaint of poison from their own guru was simply manure for them, and they will have to explain all that to the higher authorities. ys pd     

4 comments:

  1. M Dasi: The ISKCON elevator got stuck. Then people inside filled it up with poop. Perfect explanation. I even try with my little hands to help to unstuck the elevator. And they are against me too at the temple here. Anyone who tries to help make the elevator unstuck is considered as fault finder and a demon. That explains the whole thing. That devotee is right.

    [PADA: Yes, it is important that people understand the history here, because history has an unfortunate habit of repeating over and over and over. Srila Prabhupada also complained about the false gurus of the Gaudiya Matha, and he too was suppressed. That means, we are in excellent company here. That is also why Srila Prabhupada said "don't make it a stool society." Exactly correct. ys pd]

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  2. SB: Even though the Bhakti religious movement is unstoppable, but the present pseudo preceptors spoiled the entire environment and polluted the atmosphere and completely destroyed the Holy mission of Sankirtan of Lord Krsna. First Gaudiya mission failed, and now Iskcon is being polluted ... this is unfortunate.

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  3. Yes B Dasi, many folks from ISKCON have said I am a sahajiya, or even that I am drinking Vodka and so forth. Wow! So they are saying only the Vodka drinking sahajiyas know that deviants are not Krishna's guru successors? OK then! I can live with that. I agree actually, the materialists, the Christians, even the atheists know that its wrong to worship deviants as God's successors, so that is fine with me if they say I am with that group. That is of course not the real issue, the real issue is, are, were or could deviants have been God's guru successors? My position has nothing to do with the real question. ys pd

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  4. Yes. This is very much like the virus problem in China. The original doctor who reported it was told to "stop making false reports," "do not alarm the public," "be quiet or you will be arrested" and so on. In other words, there was a cover up by the upper echelon managers, to the peril of the people who found out later what the doctor was talking about, the hard way. Same reason people said we are writing about poop ....

    Thus! Same exact type thing happened in ISKCON. We reported these problems, but we were suppressed by the upper managers. And then the citizens had to discover the hard way that our complaints were accurate all along. And so a devotee said this is also what happened on the Titanic ship. A few guys were yelling "iceberg ahead," but no one really cared. And thus no one did anything, so they had to hit the iceberg to experience the crisis, people had to learn the hard way. Yep. Sounds about right.

    The problem here is somewhat different in that the upper managers had many rank and file helpers who went along with the cover up. But the result was the same, the problem was way too big to contain by the time the citizens figured out what the China doctor was complaining about. It is amazing that history does repeat in different ways, but with the same underlying problem -- of suppressing information. ys pd

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