Gangster Prankster Guru
Dear Laksmi Kary. I am sorry to see that you are blaming me for all the bad public media stories that have come out of ISKCON post 1977. I did not create ANY of these stories, they were all in the media and I merely commented on them. You are blaming the messenger.
Hansadutta, on the other hand, was one of the primary ring leaders of the bogus post-1977 "GBC guru" party that made all this bad publicity. He knew better than any of us that Tamal, Satsvarupa, Jayapataka, Ramesvara, Jayatirtha, Harikesh, Bhagavan, Bhavananda, Kirtanananda, Hrdayananda, -- and his humble himself, were not qualified to be worshiped as Srila Prabhupada's and Krishna's guru successors. Hansadutta knew this better than any of us because -- he knew all these people were having all kinds of management problems, and a few of them would call each other "goof balls," and in sum they were not qualified to be gurus. Hansadutta knew that from the get go, better than any of us knew.
Hansadutta told me himself, that he had helped the other ten cook up their "appointed 11 guru's program" at SECRET meetings held among these eleven where they PLOTTED this deviant scheme. Hansadutta said ALL of them knew their "11 guru's program" was a bogus and essentially a criminal takeover scam -- but they did not care -- since they ALL wanted to take over Srila Prabhupada's mission (money, buildings, assets and important manpower) for themselves.
This was a criminal conspiracy to "usurp the assets" just like the Gaudiya Matha's deviants "usurped the assets." And when I went to Berkeley temple in 1975, there was a huge five foot high photo of Hansadutta sitting at the feet of Sridhara Maharaja, the founder father of the post 1936 homosexual guru's deviation. Srila Prabhupada said the Gaudiya Matha are the "usurpers" of the guru seat program, and that is where Hansadutta went for shelter? This also helped make the spin off of several thousand ISKCON devotees to the Gaudiya Matha's program.
Hansadutta admits this guru appointment fraud was due to the fact -- these leaders were all personally MOTIVATED for power, prestige, money, glory, worship and so forth. Hansadutta at least admits that was their motivation, i.e. they had material motivation. OK all the more reason that these eleven are not qualified to be gurus, people who are self-interested and personally motivated are not qualified to be worshiped as God's successors. As Berkeley police officer Joe Sanchez said, there was Srila Prabhupada, and then there were those who thought they were Srila Prabhupada.
In sum, Hansadutta supported this regime because he wanted a piece of the stolen Judas gold for himself. And devotees like Nanda Kumar say that their "kali chela" conspiracy against Srila Prabhupada was full blown even when Srila Prabhupada was still present, it was being cooked up at that time already.
And this is why some people like Prithu das said -- even in the mid-1970s -- that Srila Prabhupada had told him, "Most of my devotees are praying for me to live, but Hansadutta is praying for me to die (so he can sit in my seat)." And Tamal Krishna swami told me in 1976, "I know you Puranjan, you are waiting for Srila Prabhupada to die so YOU CAN SIT IN HIS SEAT." Yep, the Hansadutta group was meditating on -- sitting in their guru's seat. In sum, Tamal and Hansadutta then became best buddies after 1977, because they were both in agreement that they should sit in his seat.
Then there was the 1973 (?) incident where both Hansadutta and Kirtanananda had placed their photos on the altars even while Srila Prabhupada was here, and Srila Prabhupada said, "At least my God brothers waited for guru maharaja to depart before they did this." He was disgusted with their greed for being in his seat.
Hansadutta's history went way back to the early days with all these people like Kirtanananda, and he therefore should have known that Kirtanananda was a renegade from Srila Prabhupada more than a few times, and thus he should not be posted as the acharya. Of course, Harikesh had insulted Srila Prabhupada more than a few times, and this was known to a lot of us. Satsvarupa messed up the book keeping in Boston so they could not even pay their electric bill. Bhagavan was almost removed from the GBC at one point because he had refused to pay the trash bill -- so the Paris temple got a huge fine from the city. Bhavananda had blooped more than a few times to go stay at Andy Warhol's place, and so on and so forth.
It would seem Hansadutta would have known all these details probably more than any of us, since he was intimately connected to ALL of these folks ALL along from the start of ISKCON. For Hansadutta to want to place these KNOWN severely conditioned souls in the Vyasasana seat of Srila Prabhupada was certainly a big blunder, at the very least. Naturally this would lead to a VERY dangerous "Charles Manson, David Koresh, Jim Jones, Heaven's Gate" cult environment, and it did. Hansadutta knew that was going to be the result because -- this is well known to be the result of posting conditioned souls as messiahs.
And who was it that was reading about Hitler and Joeseph Goebels? OK it was Hansadutta, he often quoted "tell a lie so big no one could challenge it" -- and many times. Even Srila Prabhupada had to say to Hansadutta, we should not be reading books about Hitler. These 1930s folks in Germany were experts at the deviated psychology of "mass mind manipulation" in order to promote themselves. Hansadutta's studying their writings was to enhance his personal ambitions and desire for their mundane mind manipulation skills, which has no basis in spiritual understanding. Of course, Srila Prabhupada says the demons use black magic style mind control techniques to fool and thus control the mass of people, so they can cheat and exploit the mass of people.
After 1978 people like Mahamsa swami complained that Hansadutta's people were making death threats against him, so right away we had a violent criminal cult going on to remove all of the original Srila Prabhupada disciples. Yasodananda was told that some of them were going to break his legs if he stayed. I was getting threats from the Jayatirtha people, and so on and so forth. Hansadutta's folks were making death threats against the devotees of Srila Prabhupada, and Srila Prabhupada says, -- the way you treat the master's dog is how the master gauges how you would treat him. Well, Hansadutta's program wanted to have us killed.
By 1985 Hansadutta had got rid of all but two original disciples of Srila Prabhupada from Berkeley, one was gay and one was a criminal, these guys got to stay. And the police were making constant visits to the temple to make arrests there in Berkeley for all sorts of felony crimes, because Hansadutta wanted to make Krishna's ISKCON into his own personal criminal empire, and he did. Later on the newspapers had a big article, "Machine Gun Swami," ok that was Hansadutta who was arrested for possession of a machine gun, making horrific publicity for ISKCON, not me?
Hansadutta convinced poor Vipra das to "take the rap" for the machine gun to save himself from going to jail. He just destroys others lives with no thought or consideration. Vipra took the rap thinking he was helping save ISKCON from a scandal, and Hansadutta was expert at exploiting these sentiments to use and abuse others.
Yes, Hansadutta eventually thought he was going to die from drug overdose, so he invited me to come to the temple to "preach about Prabhupada," but he never really made it clear to his flock that he was on my side. Rather he would also glorify Kirtanananda as "the only pure devotee on the planet," so he was at best causing (intentional?) confusion among his followers. Hansadutta was sort of backing both our "Prabhupadanuga" idea and the "Kirtanananda swami is pure" idea, simultaneously, at the same time. That means our lives were in danger, because Kirtanananda's program sometimes assassinated dissenters.
When I was living there at the Berkeley temple in 1985, fifty of Srila Prabhupada's original devotees came to Berkeley to attend a new age festival. I invited them to come over the Berkeley temple with me and they said, "Hell no, we are not going to go over there to get our faces pounded in by Hansadutta's thugs, he is a dangerous criminal." And this "violent cult mood" had been the exact mood that Hansadutta wanted to project, that he is a dangerous criminal, so all of Srila Prabhupada's ACTUAL devotees would stay away and he could thus promote his deviants and friends like Kirtanananda as saints.
And then there was a big problem in the overall society of things like child abuse, in addition to the other problems of Srila Prabhupada's devotees being banned, beaten and assassinated. And so, while all these children were suffering and getting abused, and people like Sulochana were being chased by angry mobs of these guru's goondas, meanwhile Hansadutta for his part was just getting stoned on various intoxicants, including apparently percodan, and having illicit sex with various lady disciples. He could care less that his victims, including children, were suffering so badly like this. And that is one main reasons almost all these children today are not coming to ISKCON, they have had their faith shattered by the Hansadutta regime's leaders.
Lets look at some other victims of this bogus guru regime, for starters -- the example mother Tribhuv. She was PREMATURELY removed from her pujari service by the Hansadutta regime, then she told me because of that -- she had "lost her will to live." She did not want to live any longer without seeing her dear lord Jagganath. One year later, I was sitting in the hospital by her bed side as she lay dying of terminal cancer. She was dying PREMATURELY.
Why was she dying?
Because, she had "lost her will to live" -- because of the actions of others, that means she was killed. Who killed her? She was de facto murdered, that's my opinion, because taking away her service killed her. And the person who orchestrated taking away that service? That would be Mr. Hansadutta and his regime, and that means he has her blood on his hands. And that is merely one out of of thousands of victims of this regime.
Then again, what happened to Buddhimanta? Died prematurely. Himavati? Died prematurely. The disciple of Hansadutta who committed suicide, being fried that his guru was a hoax? Died prematurely. Sulochana das? Died prematurely. Its endless really, Mula Prakrti, Kulashekhar. Tribhuvanath, ok really the list is endless of ALL these people who died WAY before their time. And up to a recent event where a local devotee died of alcohol poison because of being discouraged by these contaminated gurus. OK that means the Hansadutta regime has caused the untimely death of hundreds of vaishnavas, premature or otherwise.
Of course, the spiritual deaths would be in the millions if we consider that this movement was supposed to save millions in the world. Its like a mass spiritual abortion program going on here ...
Never mind that many ex-gurukuli children were also discouraged en masse by these false gurus and many of them ended up thinking the religion is a fraud, Many of them have had drug problems, never mind a suicide problem, and so many other problems, no one can start to count them, all thanks to Hansadutta's crazy guru process which alienated them wholesale. Yet the laws of nature are most strict, someone is going to have to be accountable and pay the price for each one and all of these victims, that's all there is to it. And that is why the Isopanisad says, better for a bogus acharya to have never even heard of the Vedas, his future is very dark. Even the ordinary man has a much brighter future than false acharyas, that is what shastra says.
Anyway, thanks to fraud gurus like Hansadutta, some numbers of these poor ex-kulis children ended up eating hamburgers and cursing at Krishna. Hansadutta mis-represented Krishna to them and this caused them to revolt against Krishna. Hansadutta's eleven guru's regime thus caused hundreds if not thousands of people to become faithless, if not millions if we include the bad media he caused, and that is what Srila Prabhupada says, bogus spiritual leaders make the masses become faithless, basically Hansadutta and his pal's program post 1977.
If a person is born as a devotee, is then mistreated by his religion's leaders, and the victim starts eating hamburgers, guess who is responsible? Yep, the leaders who caused the alienation are responsible, they aborted this child's spiritual life.
So now you are citing some outsiders who are upset with the religion, because of the actions of fools like Hansadutta who misrepresented the religion, but the Hansadutta guru process also alienated and upset even MOST the adults in ISKCON, and they almost ALL left in a huge exodus. And worse, Hansadutta's program furthermore alienated MOST of the children BORN inside the movement. These children are NOW gone and ARE not coming back! EVER! That means FOREVER!
Srila Prabhupada said he was counting on these children to make a new wave of people to promote his mission, and almost all of them were spiritually killed off by these false acharyas. What is the karma for that? I hate to even think what it would be, killing off and aborting the children of Srila Prabhupada and bringing a number of them back to hamburgers instead of Krishna? Who caused this to happen? The leaders of course, this did not happen by chance or accident.
Never mind that, Hansadutta's process caused mass public alienation of the religion, so he caused most people outside AS WELL AS most of those already inside the movement to be fried and alienated from the religion. He fried out the first generation of devotees, second generation of devotees, and millions in the public, all in one big swoop. Fried them all to toast so that he could sit in a big seat for a few years.
I had nothing to do with his actions in this regard, except, I reported on him in my newsletters. You are quoting the outsiders who are alienated, forgetting that Hansadutta' program also alienated 99 percent of the Srila Prabhupada INSIDE ISKCON devotees and 99 percent of their children from participating in ISKCON. He created a massive exodus to get away from the putrid stink of his motivated ego-tism and self-appointed acharya's program. The 99 percent of devotees who left will never return, they are totally disgusted with this guru program and want nothing to do with it, ever again. Forever.
And all the while as Hansadutta's program was stomping giant jackboots on all these innocent people, he was just getting stoned on intoxicants, and shooting guns at occupied buildings, while he was carrying $15,000 cash in his pocket. He had only been interested in taking care of himself. Who was ordering all these children they had to worship deviants like Kirtanananda? Who made all this mess for all these children? Who said we are demons when we said there is a problem with these children's treatment? And who helped demonize us to get us killed when we protested Hansadutta's criminally abusive guru cult?
We all know whom that is, we just do not know when these people are going to accept individual or collective responsibility for generating all this criminal mayhem, but they will have to accept responsibility either now or in their future lives, what we sow is what we reap. On the other hand, we convinced a number of Hansadutta followers to worship Srila Prabhupada, and many of them still shake my hand when they see me today being thankful we set them on the right path.
If a person has to go to hell for some years -- for each hair on the body of a cow that he helps get slaughtered (by eating meat) -- then what about each hair on the head of Sulochana? And Tribhuv? And so on and so forth? Who will have to answer for all these untimely deaths? We say, and shastra says, it the people who caused all these deaths.
OK that means Hansadutta and his 11 guru's regime, individually and collectively, they caused all this, they are responsible for all this. I reported on it, because it was an important issue, that these gurus were ruining the lives of countless people and ruining the mission of Lord Chaitanya. That means of course, the agents of the Lord will deal severely with these people who exploited this mission in their own way, and I'm glad not to have been part of this gang of usurpers of property that belongs to GOD ALMIGHTY.
Hansadutta was thus demonizing me and Sulochana on purpose, to get us killed, he wanted us to die and he got his wishes partly fulfilled. Hansadutta knew FULL WELL that Kirtanananda had a dangerous cult going on, and he knew we were complaining about that cult, then he sided with the child abusers and devotee assassins club because -- he supported them and crammed all this down the throats of the devotees, the women, and the ISKCON children, and the public. He crammed these molester messiahs down the throats of others, so he is fully responsible for the results. I was saying lets not cram these bogus gurus down the throats of others, so this was done by him and not me.
Narayana Maharaja says the false guru program of the Gaudiya Matha was torturing and brutalizing the devotees, and Hansadutta just followed in their footsteps. He was torturing these hundreds if not thousands of people by forcing them to stay away from their beloved Krishna, sometimes causing their death, and causing many spiritual deaths to boot.
Worse, some of these deaths were due to slowly dying of cancer like Tribhuv, which means, the Hansadutta regime tortured her to death. Its hard for us to even think of the karma these people will be enduring for all this oppression upon these innocent souls, especially these poor women and children. Anyone who causes Krishna's devotees to suffer and even die will never expect to get much mercy from the Lord or any agents of the Lord, that is the opinion of shastra.
If Hansadutta had said this is all bogus from the get go, he could have save a lot of these people, At least Berkeley could have been saved and there would be not so many victims here. He did speak up somewhat to his credit, but he waited until it was too late for most folks to say a few words, and its not a complete explanation either. Neither Hansadutta has explained why his best pals were saying "the poison is going down" in Srila Prabhupada's room. And why did Nanda Kumar say he had to leave Vrndavana in 1977 because these kali chelas (Hansadutta's associates) were mistreating Srila Prabhupada? Why does Hansadutta not explain any of this?
If you want to know why there is a bad image of the movement, first ask them why they created this mess and it had to be reported by the police, media, FBI and so on? Hansadutta created a bad image of the movement all over the world. causing even a number of the children to reject the religion and start eating hamburgers. His program caused this alienation.
Another among countless victims is Bhakta das. After Hansadutta's people stole his briefcase and started using his credit cards he went into a tail spin and has never recovered, he also ran off to the Gaudiya Matha. His service and association was destroyed just like hundreds of others had their lives destroyed. No one is authorized to destroy the lives of Krishna's devotees, there is a heavy penalty for that. Indeed, the heaviest penalty, which is why these false gurus are destined for the most obnoxious regions, they have to pay back what they stole from all these thousands of people, what they stole from Krishna and His pure devotee, and all this is compounded daily with interest.
Hansadutta also took those big Krishna deities and placed them in a shed where he lives. Doesn't that say it all? He drove away all the devotees and was left with deities he cannot care for properly, and he has Krishna kidnapped away in a isolated shed. Srila Prabhupada said we need fifty brahmanas to worship Radha and Krishna, and now there is no one there for them, just a shed in the country. Srila Prabhupada wanted hundreds of devotees, kirtanas, pujaris, programs, he did not want Krishna to be stuck in a shed somewhere?
Your own husband told me that Hansadutta had ordered him to divorce you so he could marry you. What kind of guru orders a married woman to divorce so he can marry her? Again, he is another victim, and you are an unkowing victim. Then your own husband, i.e. another victim, left the place in disgust. And his devotee brother went with him too, and so on and so on and so on and so on, all so that Hansadutta could manipulate these poor souls for his own personal gratification. Of course, one devotee was going to shoot Hansadutta with a shot gun for having sex with his wife, and I saved Hansadutta by restraining this person who was going to drive to the farm to blow off Hansadutta's head. So before you condemn me, realize that I am the person who saved Hansadutta's life.
You folks have to start to get this history in order, I did not cause any of these crimes, I reported them. After Sulochana was killed Hansadutta sent everyone to New Vrndavana, he wanted to be in all the bad media, he sent everyone there because he knew these people were murderers of Vaishnavas and he wanted the murderers to be worshiped. And because he sent everyone to New Vrndavana, Berkeley was a basket case and still is, he burnt that place to the ground be sending all the sevakas away. So he should just admit to all this and get it over with instead of still trying to still defend himself as some sort of victim himself, he is the perpetrator, not the victim. ys pd
