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[PADA: OK we are not endorsing this program, but lamenting we (the ritviks) could not make similar projects around the world. This does look like a successful program from a material management point of view. Of course the first problem is -- these gurus burnt out the USA and then fled to places like Poland -- where people simply did not know about their shenanigans. These gurus do not have much success like this in the USA.
So, we are glad some farms are being made somewhere, even if they are being made by the GBC folks, because we think eventually these places will convert to our idea over time. We are experiencing that more people are reading Srila Prabhupada's books inside of ISKCON, and thus more people are coming to our idea of worship of Srila Prabhupada by default.
We have skyped with some ISKCON temple folks recently and they are agreeing with our process, and they will preach "in a subtle way" as we advised them. They know the GBC's guru process is "a can of worms" and they want to take shelter of Srila Prabhupada. We also get letters from our web sites with ISKCON people asking us about the whole post-1977 history, so at least some of them are getting educated gradually.
Anyway! This farm is an unfortunate glaring example of how we so-called ritviks have ALSO failed, our process just has not produced many of these types of programs for whatever the reasons. Hopefully, we will wake up and start to develop these style of rural programs, for the future of our children and their children.
The future generations will need such places as the mundane society deteriorates and becomes more uninhabitable. This place looks very well managed, as opposed to some of our USA ISKCON farms that look like they were abandoned during the war -- and now no one is left. Here in California in the 1960s a group of ten "hippie" families would move to a large rural farm from the city, and just rent some big property by combining their incomes, and start "a commune" during the "hippie era," I am not so sure why a group of devotees could not do the same things now? ys pd
[PADA: OK we are not endorsing this program, but lamenting we (the ritviks) could not make similar projects around the world. This does look like a successful program from a material management point of view. Of course the first problem is -- these gurus burnt out the USA and then fled to places like Poland -- where people simply did not know about their shenanigans. These gurus do not have much success like this in the USA.
So, we are glad some farms are being made somewhere, even if they are being made by the GBC folks, because we think eventually these places will convert to our idea over time. We are experiencing that more people are reading Srila Prabhupada's books inside of ISKCON, and thus more people are coming to our idea of worship of Srila Prabhupada by default.
We have skyped with some ISKCON temple folks recently and they are agreeing with our process, and they will preach "in a subtle way" as we advised them. They know the GBC's guru process is "a can of worms" and they want to take shelter of Srila Prabhupada. We also get letters from our web sites with ISKCON people asking us about the whole post-1977 history, so at least some of them are getting educated gradually.
Anyway! This farm is an unfortunate glaring example of how we so-called ritviks have ALSO failed, our process just has not produced many of these types of programs for whatever the reasons. Hopefully, we will wake up and start to develop these style of rural programs, for the future of our children and their children.
The future generations will need such places as the mundane society deteriorates and becomes more uninhabitable. This place looks very well managed, as opposed to some of our USA ISKCON farms that look like they were abandoned during the war -- and now no one is left. Here in California in the 1960s a group of ten "hippie" families would move to a large rural farm from the city, and just rent some big property by combining their incomes, and start "a commune" during the "hippie era," I am not so sure why a group of devotees could not do the same things now? ys pd
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