Dear Hansadutta dasa: I don't know WHO is forwarding these letters (regarding the poison issue) to me, but please STOP!!! You are cursing me as being a follower at Puranjana, but I am NOT HIS follower! In fact I am NO ONE'S follower other than Srila Prabhupada. I am NOT an Idiot like the offensive persons you are quoting seem to be, and I don't have time to stay in never ending rhetorical debates for hours on end.
Puranjana helped win several law suits against the bogus Iskcon gurus, and many documents he presented are STILL being used in other court cases RIGHT NOW, because he has had the GUTS to go against ALL of you and WIN. And we are going to do it again, but this time its the grand FINALE, with me on board for a lawsuit I'd like to launch with his help as a consultant. Puranjana brought to light MANY issues that nobody else ever would have done, because nobody else had HIS courage and BRAVERY. I am NOT his or anyone's follower, but I am follower of Truth and HE seems to be in that side.
I was sincere with you when I wrote the first letter but it seems that you do not want to step DOWN from your HIGH HORSE, as the authority of others, especially those who fought your bogus guru program. And I don 't CARE how HIGH your horse is, you unfortunately were guilty of the same crimes as the other 11 initial bogus gurus.
You have no authority to attack the people who had to risk their lives establishing Srila Prabhupada as the acharya against you people, like Puranjana and his friends did. Its amazing he is alive at all, preaching the right things against all you people, and you are still giving him a bad name, so he will be attacked all the more? You have learned nothing so far?
Where were you when Puranjana was trying to make Srila Prabhupada the guru of ISKCON? You were saying Kirtanananda is the only pure person on the planet, which was making dangerous conditions for the devotees working with Puranjana, some of whom were killed. Puranjana is the last person you should be criticizing, he risked his life fighting you people, and his friends were killed fighting you people, and he could EASILY have been killed fighting along with them.
So please, Hansadutta I want or wanted to respect you, but you are NOT gaining an IOTA of RESPECT from me by just constantly attacking and cursing and defaming Puranjana, when he has been correct every single time in his complaints about you people. Of course even if Puranjana may be idiot number one, BUT independently from that, you also have done many crimes that are recorded with the FBI, he has not. So, for a minute I thought you were humbling down, but maybe it was MY wishful thinking because sometimes I perceive you as PUFFED UP as all the other original FOOLS, and you have not come down to earth yet.
Please do not Insult my intelligence, because I have been a Lawyer for many years and studied and listened to Srila Prabhupada maybe MORE than you probably EVER will, so I do not appreciate these remarks by your group of stupid persons, whoever they are.
I also do not care about THIS or THAT opinion. And so I am starting to doubt YOUR opinions Hansadutta. This is an insult, thinking we can twist anybody around in philosophy and beat them to the ground. In fact I don't think ANYBODY in Iskcon is as smart as intelligent as ME (and I say this with Humbleness, REAL humbleness) because they all support so many bogus things.
But at some point, I must tell you guys who you are talking with! It maybe the REASON why Srila Prabhupada and Krishna selected ME to be initiated. Please don't come to me "TEACHING ME," I have little to learn from somebody that has enjoyed so much POWER, fame, adoration and distinction.
I came to KRISHNA to serve Krishna, exactly like Srila Prabhupada's words say, and NOT to acquire ANY power, adoration, distinction or FAME. In FACT I despise these things with ALL my heart, so be careful before you talk you me because I am NOT on any type of HIGH HORSE.
Please understand Hansadutta, that your position is very tottering and insecure because you have unfortunately breached the TRUST of all vaishnavas, including ME!! Your explanation is understandable that you obeyed Kirtananda's orders, but now what is the excuse or reason NOT to be humble? And I don't mean to condemn you, or rub on your face in your past mistakes, but now there is ONLY ROOM for REPENTANCE and APOLOGY. That is ALL, nothing less, nothing more, but with me if you become puffed UP you are DOOMED .
I am very very very Humble, submissive and meek BUT ONLY to whoever I CHOOSE to be submissive to and no one else. NO so-called siddhanta can FORCE me to do anything. I do everything with LOVE and I am doubly careful now, especially that I found out about all of you guys cheating in disobedience to Srila Prabhupada's FINAL ORDERS
You started preaching to me like I was either a Karmi or a neophyte, when I have studied these issues. Please RECTIFY this attitude towards me, you should be my older God brother and I should have certain respect for that BUT that is not all you need to EARN MY respect, and the all other Vaishnava's respect, especially now that you AND your "FRIENDS" have caused so much damage to all the devotees, maybe for a few generations. So you have still not realized how you LOST ALL your rights to criticize "ANYBODY" including Puranjana and /or ME!!.........even if Puranjana is fool number one, you are not his superior.
Besides I am doing very important service for Srila Prabhupada right now and I do not want to be disturbed with never ending debates. I am a very successful person FOR SRILA PRABHUPADA and Krishna I only PRAISE devotees when they are trying to do some service for Srila Prabhupada. And I think you are judging without knowing Puranjana closely, and what HE HAS DONE, and he is still doing: genuine service. So the idiot people that criticize devotees who are doing service, they can and will all go to hell, and if you side with them maybe you will go to hell with them also.
Dear Hansadutta, I respect you as a devotee but if are going to make me a target or recipient of offenses to sincere devotees I am OUT! I have enough real Siddhanta because I read more books than these idiots have EVER read and listen to Srila Prabhupada for more than 40 years, every single day ....... how many years have YOU people listened???!!
Another point is: Why do you so-called older devotees always WANT to give "US" lectures, and you don't want to listen to others instead? Probably you have NOTHING to teach us, and maybe we have more to teach you than you can teach us!! Can you think of that for just a second ?? That is the FIRST thing I perceived when I came to Iskcon, thinking I was going to meet the most humble people on the planet, BUT to my great SURPRISE instead I often found some of the MOST uncaring, selfish, puffed up, arrogant, impudent and probably worse than any karmi people anywhere. And since you were one of the leaders of this group, it seems all of you were training these people to behave this way?
So I had to leave all this because of you people, you made it uninhabitable. And now I am on solid and even ground. I can debate and defeat ANY fool that dares to challenge me from your side. Do you want to test me??!! In any case, I do not have time now but in future I want to meet with hundreds of YOU against ME alone, and we will see who WINS!!!
All of you, as I observed, are so puffed up that immediately you wanted to sit in the Vyasa asana and give us your divine "lecturezzzz." Don't you think that after our 40 years of reading and listening, we have some lectures to give to YOU also, like teaching you how to be humble??!! Like I said I have no time to waste with rhetorical never ending debates for me everything is "CLEAR."
Contrary of what you told me Hansadutta, that on your website everything is "CLEAR." With all due respect, it is not at all clear. And I became more confused reading your site. So that is WHY I decided to stay away for a while from all this, as much as I respect adore and respect Srila Prabhupada my Divine Master (the SYMBOL of HUMBLENESS) maybe you guys can practice SOME little bit of HIS humbleness and maybe you will be alright!!
Always preaching DOWN on US does not show any humbleness, but shows the most egregious PUFFED UP-NESS, arrogance and impudence that we have witnessed all along. Please ........SIT down !! And listen to OTHER'S who should lectures you guys. You fellows have LOST ALL your RIGHTS to "GIVE" us any lectures. Now you have to catch up with US. We have ALREADY listened to all your nonsense for so many years, but we WOKE UP !! Now, be careful when you wake a sleeping dog!!!!!
I do not have the luxury of your never ending debates and insults to other vaishnavas, just be HUMBLE, MEEK and surrender as much as you can to the order, ESPECIALLY the FINAL ORDER of Srila Prabhupada -- and you will be okay!! I am sorry but I can not keep e-mailing with you just to be receiving offenses towards Puranjana, who has done more than you ever will to re-establish Srila Prabhupada. I explained to you before that I a want to be eventually working with FBI and CIA an many lawyers from the government to put everyone that is rebellious to Srila Prabhupada's FINAL ORDER in JAIL!! That is MY story and ONLY mission in my life which is YOURS???
Your servant Hari Bhatta das Adhikari
Puranjana helped win several law suits against the bogus Iskcon gurus, and many documents he presented are STILL being used in other court cases RIGHT NOW, because he has had the GUTS to go against ALL of you and WIN. And we are going to do it again, but this time its the grand FINALE, with me on board for a lawsuit I'd like to launch with his help as a consultant. Puranjana brought to light MANY issues that nobody else ever would have done, because nobody else had HIS courage and BRAVERY. I am NOT his or anyone's follower, but I am follower of Truth and HE seems to be in that side.
I was sincere with you when I wrote the first letter but it seems that you do not want to step DOWN from your HIGH HORSE, as the authority of others, especially those who fought your bogus guru program. And I don 't CARE how HIGH your horse is, you unfortunately were guilty of the same crimes as the other 11 initial bogus gurus.
You have no authority to attack the people who had to risk their lives establishing Srila Prabhupada as the acharya against you people, like Puranjana and his friends did. Its amazing he is alive at all, preaching the right things against all you people, and you are still giving him a bad name, so he will be attacked all the more? You have learned nothing so far?
Where were you when Puranjana was trying to make Srila Prabhupada the guru of ISKCON? You were saying Kirtanananda is the only pure person on the planet, which was making dangerous conditions for the devotees working with Puranjana, some of whom were killed. Puranjana is the last person you should be criticizing, he risked his life fighting you people, and his friends were killed fighting you people, and he could EASILY have been killed fighting along with them.
So please, Hansadutta I want or wanted to respect you, but you are NOT gaining an IOTA of RESPECT from me by just constantly attacking and cursing and defaming Puranjana, when he has been correct every single time in his complaints about you people. Of course even if Puranjana may be idiot number one, BUT independently from that, you also have done many crimes that are recorded with the FBI, he has not. So, for a minute I thought you were humbling down, but maybe it was MY wishful thinking because sometimes I perceive you as PUFFED UP as all the other original FOOLS, and you have not come down to earth yet.
Please do not Insult my intelligence, because I have been a Lawyer for many years and studied and listened to Srila Prabhupada maybe MORE than you probably EVER will, so I do not appreciate these remarks by your group of stupid persons, whoever they are.
I also do not care about THIS or THAT opinion. And so I am starting to doubt YOUR opinions Hansadutta. This is an insult, thinking we can twist anybody around in philosophy and beat them to the ground. In fact I don't think ANYBODY in Iskcon is as smart as intelligent as ME (and I say this with Humbleness, REAL humbleness) because they all support so many bogus things.
But at some point, I must tell you guys who you are talking with! It maybe the REASON why Srila Prabhupada and Krishna selected ME to be initiated. Please don't come to me "TEACHING ME," I have little to learn from somebody that has enjoyed so much POWER, fame, adoration and distinction.
I came to KRISHNA to serve Krishna, exactly like Srila Prabhupada's words say, and NOT to acquire ANY power, adoration, distinction or FAME. In FACT I despise these things with ALL my heart, so be careful before you talk you me because I am NOT on any type of HIGH HORSE.
Please understand Hansadutta, that your position is very tottering and insecure because you have unfortunately breached the TRUST of all vaishnavas, including ME!! Your explanation is understandable that you obeyed Kirtananda's orders, but now what is the excuse or reason NOT to be humble? And I don't mean to condemn you, or rub on your face in your past mistakes, but now there is ONLY ROOM for REPENTANCE and APOLOGY. That is ALL, nothing less, nothing more, but with me if you become puffed UP you are DOOMED .
I am very very very Humble, submissive and meek BUT ONLY to whoever I CHOOSE to be submissive to and no one else. NO so-called siddhanta can FORCE me to do anything. I do everything with LOVE and I am doubly careful now, especially that I found out about all of you guys cheating in disobedience to Srila Prabhupada's FINAL ORDERS
You started preaching to me like I was either a Karmi or a neophyte, when I have studied these issues. Please RECTIFY this attitude towards me, you should be my older God brother and I should have certain respect for that BUT that is not all you need to EARN MY respect, and the all other Vaishnava's respect, especially now that you AND your "FRIENDS" have caused so much damage to all the devotees, maybe for a few generations. So you have still not realized how you LOST ALL your rights to criticize "ANYBODY" including Puranjana and /or ME!!.........even if Puranjana is fool number one, you are not his superior.
Besides I am doing very important service for Srila Prabhupada right now and I do not want to be disturbed with never ending debates. I am a very successful person FOR SRILA PRABHUPADA and Krishna I only PRAISE devotees when they are trying to do some service for Srila Prabhupada. And I think you are judging without knowing Puranjana closely, and what HE HAS DONE, and he is still doing: genuine service. So the idiot people that criticize devotees who are doing service, they can and will all go to hell, and if you side with them maybe you will go to hell with them also.
Dear Hansadutta, I respect you as a devotee but if are going to make me a target or recipient of offenses to sincere devotees I am OUT! I have enough real Siddhanta because I read more books than these idiots have EVER read and listen to Srila Prabhupada for more than 40 years, every single day ....... how many years have YOU people listened???!!
Another point is: Why do you so-called older devotees always WANT to give "US" lectures, and you don't want to listen to others instead? Probably you have NOTHING to teach us, and maybe we have more to teach you than you can teach us!! Can you think of that for just a second ?? That is the FIRST thing I perceived when I came to Iskcon, thinking I was going to meet the most humble people on the planet, BUT to my great SURPRISE instead I often found some of the MOST uncaring, selfish, puffed up, arrogant, impudent and probably worse than any karmi people anywhere. And since you were one of the leaders of this group, it seems all of you were training these people to behave this way?
So I had to leave all this because of you people, you made it uninhabitable. And now I am on solid and even ground. I can debate and defeat ANY fool that dares to challenge me from your side. Do you want to test me??!! In any case, I do not have time now but in future I want to meet with hundreds of YOU against ME alone, and we will see who WINS!!!
All of you, as I observed, are so puffed up that immediately you wanted to sit in the Vyasa asana and give us your divine "lecturezzzz." Don't you think that after our 40 years of reading and listening, we have some lectures to give to YOU also, like teaching you how to be humble??!! Like I said I have no time to waste with rhetorical never ending debates for me everything is "CLEAR."
Contrary of what you told me Hansadutta, that on your website everything is "CLEAR." With all due respect, it is not at all clear. And I became more confused reading your site. So that is WHY I decided to stay away for a while from all this, as much as I respect adore and respect Srila Prabhupada my Divine Master (the SYMBOL of HUMBLENESS) maybe you guys can practice SOME little bit of HIS humbleness and maybe you will be alright!!
Always preaching DOWN on US does not show any humbleness, but shows the most egregious PUFFED UP-NESS, arrogance and impudence that we have witnessed all along. Please ........SIT down !! And listen to OTHER'S who should lectures you guys. You fellows have LOST ALL your RIGHTS to "GIVE" us any lectures. Now you have to catch up with US. We have ALREADY listened to all your nonsense for so many years, but we WOKE UP !! Now, be careful when you wake a sleeping dog!!!!!
I do not have the luxury of your never ending debates and insults to other vaishnavas, just be HUMBLE, MEEK and surrender as much as you can to the order, ESPECIALLY the FINAL ORDER of Srila Prabhupada -- and you will be okay!! I am sorry but I can not keep e-mailing with you just to be receiving offenses towards Puranjana, who has done more than you ever will to re-establish Srila Prabhupada. I explained to you before that I a want to be eventually working with FBI and CIA an many lawyers from the government to put everyone that is rebellious to Srila Prabhupada's FINAL ORDER in JAIL!! That is MY story and ONLY mission in my life which is YOURS???
Your servant Hari Bhatta das Adhikari
What a great missionary for His Divine Grace Srila Prabhupada Hari Bhatta prabhu is.
ReplyDeleteWyatt now says Hari Bhatta does not exist? People are just vanishing here? What is he smoking? Wyatt now thinks he can wave his hands and people will disappear. You are losing it Wyatt. Anyway this is all part of the overall meltdown, don't worry you are not the only person having a meltdown, so is the GBC and false ritviks etc. ys pd
ReplyDeleteHansadutta must be given much credit for making some reform, but he cannot walk the last mile of distance. He needs to completely surrender. He must give up all false posture. He could not make it the whole way, that is sad. He did more than the other 11, but he is not able to go all they way to the truth. He has to admit the whole evil, not just parts.
ReplyDeleteHamsadutta? Are you serious? He was having sex with women in the morning before Bhagavatam class, smoking it up, doing drugs and all sorts of illegal activities, selling records of his own with rock labels over them to innocent tourists in San Francisco, he could have been brought up on racketeering charges himself. He used force and guns against at least one of his fellow gurus to try and take over his temples. The man is a low class scumbag.
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