Danavir's messiahs are insane, psychotic, paranoid mental patients (from oneiskcon)

Harikesa Dasa In Retrospect
Published June 18, 2013

By His Holiness Danavir Goswami

DANAVIR: Certainly the valuable service he has performed for Lord Caitanya’s movement thus far in this life is unachievable for an insignificant creature as myself to equal in millions of lifetimes. I therefore pray at the outset for the ability to view my dear God brother Harikesa dasa without committing any offenses to him or his disciples.

[PADA: Danavir says that one of the main persons he (and the GBC) hand selected -- and anointed -- as one of ISKCON's main 11 gurus, namely Harikesha, suffered from serious mental disorders -- all along -- even before he was a devotee. And these "mental disorders" simply became much worse after Danavir's program anointed Harikesh as ISKCON's guru / messiah in 1978. Lets get this straight, Danavir (and apparently some other GBC leaders) knew all along that Harikesh was not exactly mentally stable, in fact he had bouts of "psychological break down tendencies" all along, so they anointed him as God's successor messiah? What could go wrong with that program? 

And now that Harikesh has destroyed "his zone" in so many respects, and destroyed the lives of so many of "his disciples" Danavir is commending him. This is the same thing they did recently when they buried Kirtanananda, -- "well he did so much service." OK, but he also caused so much mayhem. And now it turns out that Danavir is basically admitting he is one of the main causes of all this mayhem, because he is one of the primary people who promoted these "crazy" people as the Lord's successor messiahs, that he now admits he knew in advance have had serious psychological problems. And Danavir promoted what he now admits are his crazy pals -- as God's messiahs? And now he wonders why that is causing complaints?   

First of all, why is Danavir always saying that persons with various forms of psychosis, paranoid delusions,  mental illness, and perhaps even dangerous psychotic disorders -- are God's successors and gurus? The guru is supposed to be: -- the incarnation of Krishna's mercy; the sum total of the demigods; the external manifestation of God; the assistant to the gopis; the person who is absorbing sins like Jesus, therefore (says Danavir and Oneiskcon) the guru is a psycho ward patient from the Bellvue mental home, with severe mental delusions? And Danavir has tried to find such crazy Bellvue type psycho patients -- to be his messiahs for ISKCON, because he has been one of the biggest cheer leaders of the post-1977 "crazy town messiahs" project. 

Danavir apparently thinks God successors are (A) Qualitatively equal to God, therefore; (B) Keep a straight jacket handy, because God is a mad fool, and so are His successors. Where does Srila Prabhupada say: God is a mad fool, and thus, so are His successors? Danavir is attacking God by saying that persons who are equal to God are mad fools. Why has Danavir always been attacking God by saying mad fools are -- GOD's qualitative (saksat hari) successors?

This means Danavir is attacking God directly. The successors to God have the same qualities as God (saksat hari tvena), and according to Danavir, the successors to God are insane Bellvue mental home psycho patients, therefore God is qualitatively the same as these mad fools? God is a Bellvue patient, therefore His successors are Bellvue patients. Yes, this is what people ask me all the time about folks like ONEISKCON, and Danavir: Since the guru is the same as God qualitatively, why is Danavir saying debauchees and mad fools are God's successors? Is that not an attack God? Yes, it is an attack on God. 

Of course demons have all along said Krishna is a "mad fool" -- since way back in the days of the Krishna book, that is what they always do. The asuras think: God is a mad fool, and so are His successors, and that is what demons have said since time immemorial. And that is why they are in the material world -- also since time immemorial, and they will remain here for the same duration of time. God and His successors are mad fools, and the asuras know better than they do?    

We could not have summed up Danavir's policy statements better ourselves: Danavir himself is saying -- he finds people [he himself admits] are deluded, are maybe even clinically deranged psychopaths, and then he anoints his psychologically disturbed friends as ISKCON's and GOD's direct (shaksat) messiahs. I am glad Danavir is finally admitting -- that has been his program all along since 1977, he evidently thinks God is a mad fool, therefore, God's successors are also mad fools. This is really nice -- that he is finally admitting all this. Of course, there are terrible planets where people will go after they claim that God and His successors are mad fools, and they will unfortunately go to a place where even madness will not save them from suffering.]

DANAVIR: FREE WILL

First of all we must remember that the living entities are by nature endowed by Sri Krsna with irretractable free will at all times. This free will works both ways, providing the option for elevation and degradation. When a living entity wishes to surrender to the Lord’s will, God gives all facility to do so in the form of good intelligence, determination, humility, the guidance of a bona fide spiritual master, etc. And conversely, when the living entity wishes to occupy the Lord’s position as enjoyer and proprietor, he loses his intelligence, determination, humility and the shelter of the spiritual master, etc.

FRAILTIES 

Harikesa dasa experienced symptoms of neuroses both in his life before coming to Krsna consciousness as well as occasionally within his devotional service. These states took the shape of manic, hyperactive work, followed by depression and paranoia. Severe psychological disorders that involve a marked split with reality, such as genuinely thinking oneself to be someone he is not, are symptoms of psychosis. 

[PADA: Rather amazing admission here. Danavir admits, he has to move -- way out of his way -- to use his free will -- to select mainly persons who are mentally unstable, manic, depressed, paranoid, psychotic, psycho clinic material, and in sum -- crazy people -- to anoint as Danavir's, and ISKCON's, and God's, successor messiahs. Danavir's point is well taken, that he could use his "free will" properly, and he could find some nice, sane, sober, and pure people to be the Lord's successors, but he refuses to do that. Rather, he selects mad fools to be worshiped as God's successors on purpose, because that is how he (mis) uses his free will, and he now admits to this. 

Danavir now admits he knows all about free will. Thus, he mis-uses his free will to find debauchees, drug addicts, criminals, child molesters, and just plain crazy people, to be God's messiahs, quite obviously without God giving him permission to do so. He refuses to use his free will to find nice messiahs, he de facto admits, he uses his free will to find awful messiahs. And Srila Prabhupada says in the Sri Isopanisad, that these "acharya by rubber stamp" people are going to a much worse and lower destination than the ordinary people, and in sum they are going to the most obnoxious regions of the universe, for their open defiance of the Lord. Of course, never mind all the banning, beating, child molesting and murders they and their program will have to account for in Yama's court.

Did Danavir consult with God before he decided to advertise mad fools as the successors to God? Apparently, Danavir thinks he has done so. What happens if God does not think He was consulted on this issue, and He does not appreciate Danavir's program of sticking various debauchees and mad fools into the (Vyasasana) seat of His guru successors? 

Danavir sums up the whole bogus GBC strategy since 1978, they do not even bother to try to find primarily sane and rational people to act as their messiahs, rather they admit, they hand select people with severe mental disorders, if not persons suffering psychotic "breaks with reality" -- to be ISKCON's and God's messiahs. 

Then, after they viciously enforce their "mad fools are God's successors" policy, we find that there are all kinds of crimes and even mass child molesting and so forth going on left, right and center -- and then they actually PRETEND to wonder -- why? Danavir explains why, he drives out the sane people with contrived excommunions, and his party then makes the insane people into their messiahs, so that crimes will go on without any sane persons to check these crimes. 

Now we all know what happened to ISKCON, Danavir wanted to turn ISKCON into his own personal "worship of crazy people" empire, and so he hand selected people he admits, are mad people, to be his (and ISKCON's) messiahs. Was this so he could distort and manipulate them in a power grab over the society? Otherwise why would Danavir hand select mad people as the messiahs of ISKCON, unless he wanted to use and manipulate them?  

In other words, what Danavir seems to be really saying is, he wanted to drive all of us "saner people" out of ISKCON, because we would not support his real program, he wanted to establish the worship of his homosexual pedophile pals, and / or mad persons / with psychotic disorders and so on, as the messiahs of ISKCON. So he anointed his mentally deluded foolish friends, and various debauchees, and various drug addicts etc. as his gurus, so he could hi-jack the ISKCON institution, drive us out, and create an insane / criminal empire using Danavir's mentally unstable messiahs as a tool to degrade the institution thereby. 

Home for God and / or His "direct" successors"?

Then Danavir wonders why there are problems with his messiahs, when he is mainly selecting people he already knows are mentally unstable to be his messiahs. If Danavir wanted to destroy ISKCON, what else would he do first? If he wanted to ruin the mission, he would first of all -- find persons suffering from psychosis to be the messiahs of ISKCON, ooops, and that is what he has done for the past 35 years!    

Srila Prabhupada explains: when neophytes imitate the position of guru, they will eventually become degraded. NOTICE: Not "possibly, might or maybe." No, SRILA PRABHUPADA SAYS -- they WILL degrade. Its a given fact. Apparently, that is why Danavir has been ordering people like Harikesha to imitate the guru, Danavir knows they will "eventually become degraded" thereby, and they will take ISKCON down with them, as has occurred in fact. 

Danavir now pretty much admits he is the reason ISKCON has had all these degraded and debauched guru problems, because Danavir finds people he says -- he knows already -- have a history of mental problems, and he declares these people are his "acharyas." In short, Danavir says he knows people will degrade when they imitate the guru, so when they will degrade, they will take ISKCON down with them. Is that his real plan? And is he more or less admitting that has been his plan all along? It seems so .... 

Danavir de facto admits that he is the one mis-using his free will, because he wants neophytes to become degraded by imitation of the bona fide guru. Why is Danavir cramming the acharya post down the throats of people like Harikesha when, one has to ask, Danavir admits he knows -- they will degrade?

Danavir never explains, why does he want to degrade people like Harikesh by making them into guru aparadhi imitators? Danavir says he knows that the imitation of guru degrades people, yet he keeps pushing people onto the Vyasasana seat, so they will degrade. Yet he never explains why he is leading a blind man into a ditch like this? Whether this was an intentional plot to destroy ISKCON, or an unexpected consequence, it does not matter, Danavir's team is responsible for the ISKCON degradation happening.]

DANAVIR: Harikesa dasa is reported to have also experienced such symptoms since in 1982 he thought that he was Skandha, Lord Siva’s son who is the commander-in-chief of the demigods. Whether in India or in the West, Harikesa dasa was persistently experiencing a physically sick body.

[PADA: Harikesha thought so many deluded things over the years, who can count them? The question is, why has Danavir been hand selecting these deluded people to be the worshiped messiahs of the universe? 

As for sickness, yes Srila Prabhupada says when one acts as a guru and take sins, and one is not qualified, one will get sick, fall down, or both. This is yet another odious out cropping of Danavir's policy, his policy has been -- to to make the leaders of ISKCON sick and fall down by giving them the deluded idea they are equals to Jesus and they could absorb sins like Jesus. This begs the question, does Danavir intentionally want them to go down, and so he feeds people like Harikesh these grandiose illusions, that they can act like another Jesus? Why is Danavir feeding these illusions to people he says, are already deluded? So Harikesha was easy prey for Danavir's propaganda, to believe he and Jesus are equals, so they can both absorb sins. This begs the question: Why is Danavir trying to make the leaders of ISKCON sick and fall down, by encouraging them to act as another Jesus -- and take the sins of others?]  

DANAVIR: TAKING 3,000 DISCIPLES

According to Srila Jiva Gosvami, a preacher has to accept many disciples to expand the cult of Sri Caitanya Mahaprabhu. This is risky because when a spiritual master accepts a disciple, he naturally accepts the disciple’s sinful activities and their reactions. Unless he is very powerful, he cannot assimilate all the sinful reactions of his disciples. Thus if he is not powerful, he has to suffer the consequences, for one is forbidden to accept many disciples. (Caitanya-caritamrta: Madhya 22.118 Purport)

[PADA: So this means Danavir is knowingly encouraging weak and deluded people into acting like Jesus and taking sins, knowing they will face severe karma reactions for doing so? This begs the question, why is Danavir encouraging people to break the rules of Sri Jiva Goswami, and to make pretend they are messiahs who can absorb sins? Does Danavir want to destroy these people, and destroy ISKCON in the process? Why would Danavir knowingly advise people whom he says are delusional, that they can be the next Jesus of Nazareth, and absorb sins, when he says he knows in advance, this will cause his victims to go into a death spiral tail spin?]  

DANAVIR: TANTRIC DEFENSE

In certain circumstances Harikesa dasa sought to counteract mental and supposed antagonistic disturbances by use of tantric medicines, which allegedly contained the ashes from tantric sacrifices. Interacting with such tamasic (mode of ignorance) persons and substances is understandably bound to cause depreciation of one’s spiritual characteristics.

[PADA: And most of the GBC gurus promoted this tantric ghost buster named Chitesvara. This begs the question, why is Danavir promoting the GBC's gurus like Jayapataka, who are saying gurus become ghostly haunted, and so they need to be ghost-busted? The guru is a manifestation of God, so he is haunted by ghosts, because God is also haunted by ghosts? Where do these people come up with these ideas? Jesus is a guru, so he is contaminated by ghosts, well that is what the Satanic people say. And that is also what Danavir's party says, the guru is contaminated by ghosts, and thus he needs tantric treatments. The guru is as pure as God, therefore, he is full of ghosts, that means -- God is also full of ghosts. Yep, that is what the Santanic people say, God and Jesus are overcome by evil. Why is Danavir always citing the ideas of the Satanic cults?] 

DANAVIR: SPIKED MEDICINE

The tantric medicine which Harikesa dasa called “Ayur Vedic medicine” was recently chemically analyzed to contain two strong psychotropic drugs. Possibly the supplier of the medicine did not inform Harikesa dasa of this.

[PADA: Harikesha said at the time he thought some of the GBC leaders had ordered his medicines to be spiked with dangerous psychotropics, because he suspected they might be trying to poison his mind with these drugs. In other words, he was saying the other leaders were "out to get him," so they had these drugs inserted into his "vibhuti." This makes some sense. 

Who had access to powerful Western medicines? The other GBC leaders. Who had a motive to make Harikesh go totally mad so they could take over his zone? The other GBC leaders. Who did take over his zone once he was out of the picture? The other GBC leaders. Maybe Harikesh was not so crazy after all, he thought there was a plot among some ISKCON leaders to have him taken down, and it seems he might have been right, someone was plotting against him, hence the dangerous psychotropics were being intentionally planted into his medicine, to make him go totally crazy, so his zone would be ripe for someone else to take it over?] 

DANAVIR: SUDDEN STOP OF MEDICATION

Having relied heavily upon the so-called medicine for ten years, Harikesa dasa suddenly stopped using it in January of 1998. If one having a previously existing mental weakness suddenly stops taking strong medication, it is not unusual for that person to behave like a completely different person, and this is what happened to Harikesa dasa.

[PADA: Harikesh, Hansadutta, Satsvarupa, Jayatirtha and other GBC messiahs have all gotten involved in taking medications. OK, so now we are getting a more clear picture of Danavir's idea of the Lord and His successors, they are mentally weak, they need strong psychotropic medications, and if they stop their medications, they will go totally bonkers. Who would have guessed? People like Jesus need to take psychotropics, or, Satan will grab them? No one knew this previously!]   

DANAVIR: WEAKNESS IN SANNYASA

Unbeknownst to all but a few sannyasa Godbrothers, Harikesa dasa experienced difficulty in maintaining the renounced order (sannyasa). 

[PADA: OK, and Harikesha was openly reading crazy books about extra-terrestials and such, and he was lecturing about these topics, and  "no one knew" there was a problem? Srila Prabhupada suspended sannyasa in 1977, why was Harikesh even acting as a sannyasa when the sannyasa order was "not working" according to Srila Prabhupada? And after Harikesh was caught with his girl friend, the GBC still had his photo on the altars and he was still being worshiped as a messiah. When I saw that in Los Angeles, and told the Danavir friendly leaders he was still being worshiped, they said -- who cares, so what?]

DANAVIR: In 1980 he expressed his desire to leave the renounced order and marry. He was advised to regain his spiritual focus by spending time in Mayapur reading and chanting. Initially he agreed to the proposal and tried to execute it but then after a couple of days he decided against this and returned to preach in his zone.

[PADA: Gurus need to chant more when they feel lusty desires? No, we neophytes need to chant more when we feel lusty desires. Now Danavir is saying God and His successors are weak and overcome by illusions. That is also what the Satan worshipers are saying, God and His successor Jesus are overcome by illusion and madness. Danavir is quoting the Satanists.]

WHY IS DANAVIR ALWAYS CITING BEELZEBUB?

DANAVIR: SEEDS OF SPLITTING FROM ISKCON

Back at the Mayapura GBC meeting in 1987, Harikesa dasa, being one of ISKCON’s first initiating gurus, felt extreme anxiety from the suggestions made by the fifty-man committee. He informed one of his close associates that if the GBC were to insist on a policy, which differed from his own ideas; he would split from ISKCON taking his disciples with him. I was present at that time and shared tremendous alarm with the devotee who informed me. At any rate, the next day differences were resolved and talk of splitting ceased.

[PADA: OK so Danavir takes a person he claims is more or less suffering from paranoid delusions, if not deep psychosis, and his messiah is also taking psychotropic drugs, and his messiah is getting Tantric ghost busting, and taking vibhuti ashes "medications," and so on, and then he wonders why his promoting this person as the messiah of ISKCON, is not keeping the society united?]  

POOR MORNING ATTENDENCE

Soon after Srila Prabhupada’s departure, Harikesa dasa made it a firm policy not to attend mangala aratrika at any center where he might stay. Disregarding Srila Prabhupada’s strong instructions on the matter, Harikesa dasa chose to sleep daily until 5 or 5:30 AM. Considering other services to be more important, he relegated his participation in morning temple programs such as mangala aratrika and Srimad Bhagavatam class to practically nil. He was personally absent from these for years although sometimes he did listen to classes in his room via short-wave radio.

[PADA: OK, so the only reason Harikesh is not another Jesus is, he could not wake up in the AM? Anyone who can wake up in the AM is another Jesus? No, a person who has to struggle to get up in the AM and chant is not a messiah, he is a struggling neophyte at best.]

STOCK MARKETING

In the late 1990’s some of Harikesa dasa’s disciples played the Russian Stock Market and won lots of money. They contributed large sums to Harikesa dasa who utilized these assets to fund ISKCON projects around the world. With high expectations of future stock market profits, Harikesa dasa committed himself to fund various educational, cultural and social schemes although the money was not actualized yet.

[PADA: Right, Harikesh was famous for losing all kinds of money on gold markets, stock markets and so forth, he was gambling. This was known for years and Danavir kept saying, so what, he is still the messiah of the Jagat.]

THE CRASH

When the Russian Stock Market crashed in 1998, the funds Harikesa dasa hoped for did not come. He became completely depressed.

OVER-MANAGEMENT SYNDROME

Brilliant as he was, Harikesa dasa seemed to be able to cope with phenomenal quantities of managerial service. Given his physical, emotional, and asrama limitations, however, Harikesa dasa probably should have exercised extreme caution. At the Mayapura GBC meeting in February of 1998 (only a month after discontinuing his medication), he undertook an unachievable managerial challenge, by offering to act as GBC chairman for three consecutive years. He fully threw himself into the service but it was more than he could accommodate.

[PADA: Danavir and Harikesha program is to kick out all the managers, then there is no one left to manage. Duh!]

DANAVIR: WOMEN AND MUSIC

Ironically at the same 1998 Mayapura GBC meeting he was admonished by the GBC body for having received regular physical treatment from a young woman. Furthermore he was remonstrated for his recent “techno” music recordings, which were considered by the GBC to be inappropriate.

[PADA: OK so now the Lord's direct messiahs need to be chastised for hanging out with women and dancing to techno music. Swell!] 


COLLAPSE-THERAPIST

In June of 1998, Harikesa Maharaja suffered a complete physical and mental breakdown, which confined him to a hospital for some time. A female new-age healer was hired and Harikesa dasa became attracted to her and wished to marry her.

[PADA: The messiah has mental break downs, yep, that is what Satan says!]

FANTASIES, BLASHPHEMY, SAHAJIYA AND PRIDE

In this state, Harikesa dasa again declared himself to be Skandha, the warlord. But this time his illusions of grandeur were so great that he also imagined himself to be Krishna, the Supreme Personality of Godhead and one of his female disciples to be a divine consort. He thus approached her improperly.

In pronounced paranoia and illusion he began severely criticizing his Godbrothers, ISKCON and Srila Prabhupada for being hard-hearted. He condemned his spiritual master for restricting sex life amongst devotees and finally he declared himself the only one capable of rectifying the mistakes done by Srila Prabhupada.

[PADA: Well this is what happened to so many of Danavir's messiahs, they went mad. And Danavir pushed them off the cliff at every step by encouraging them -- that they are messiahs.] 

LESSONS TO BE LEARNED

1. We should never think we are too advanced to fall into maya.

2. Be careful about the objects which we contemplate. They may manifest before us to enjoy.

3. Put priorities straight, i.e. sadhana before work: rise early, attend mangala aratrika and Srimad Bhagavatam class daily. Don’t overdo it on management.

4. Do not take sannyasa prematurely.

5. Sannyasis must not associate with women alone or be massaged by them.

6. Beware of tantric and new age cures.

7. Sannyasis must be careful about moneymaking schemes and associating closely with persons attached to wealth.

8. Stock-market speculation is akin to gambling. For sannyasi/brahmana leaders of ISKCON to be involved in stock market gambling has a particularly detrimental effect on the consciousness.

9. Do not think that we are the doers, no matter how expert we may be.

10. Be cautious about how many disciples we take.

11. Don’t indulge in blatant slander of ISKCON or ever think of leaving ISKCON.

12. Be humble, don’t think oneself more intelligent than Srila Prabhupada

CONCLUSION AND HOPE

Any one of the above debilitating factors could have been sufficient cause for a person to fall down. But when combined together, they represent a formidable military force of maya. Yet one might ask, “How could Krsna let such a nice devotee who has performed so much book distribution, etc. as has Harikesa dasa, fall into such difficulty?” Lord Krsna has many lessons to teach us and perhaps by spotlighting Harikesa dasa’ errors, it will help Harikesa dasa and other Vaisnavas to be more careful in executing devotional service. Despite his recent irrational words, ideas and actions, we pray for the recovery of our dear Godbrother Harikesa dasa as soon as possible. Hare Krsna.

[PADA: And now Danavir sums it all up, the messiahs from God appointed by Danavir are psychotic, paranoid delusional, taking psychotropics, they are mad fools, they think they are Skanda, they think they are Krishna, they think their girlfriends are the gopis, and so on and so forth. Then Danavir wonders why ISKCON is in such a mess, because he has put ISKCON into this mess by promoting all these mad fools as his messiahs. Anyway, the Yamaduttas are always eager to pick up people who insult God and His messiahs by saying they are lusty dope fiends, and Danavir is near number one on their map. ys pd]

GOING HOME BACK TO BELLVUE HEAD!

ISKCON guru Ravindra: Another fine example of Danavir's wonderful messiahs from heaven!