PADA: Vishal das' body was reported to have been found in his apartment.
He was a big fan of distributing books, and we give him a lot of credit for having that sentiment. He was sort of friendly with me, but sometimes very critical of me. I think he sort of knew I was right, but he did not want to make waves.
At one time, he severely chastised me when I was handing my "PADA newsletter" at a festival. "Why are you always creating a disturbance"? Hee hee.
Yep, hard to believe, but at one time there was no internet -- and so we photocopied our publications and either mailed them out -- or handed them out. Umm, somewhat to our peril, because we sometimes got threats and very vicious opposition. And of course, we had our other assorted and various critics -- like Vishal das.
Vishal told me "Krishna is going to fix everything, so it is not your job to try to help change the situation." I said, "Fine, but how can we say, one of the ways Krishna fixes things is -- to have people like me handing out papers? Are you trying to say I am not part and parcel of Krishna"? Sort of stumped him with that one. "Krishna wants to fix this, and He generally uses His parts and parcels to do that job for Him, but PADA is -- not -- part of Krishna"? Hee hee!
I further replied, "So when your toilet is stopped up -- and it is flooding all over your house -- you will not pick up a toilet plunger to fix it yourself, or even bother to call a plumber -- because you will wait for Krishna to come over to your house and un-stop your toilet? How is that going to work in real, actual, practical life"?
Another hee hee.
So, of course he and many of my other God brothers never have had any good reply when we asked this question. My understanding of the Bhagavad Gita is: Krishna expects us to serve Him, and not to sit around and wait for Him to serve us.
And then -- Krishna factually does "fix the situation" (in His own way) -- by having ISKCON raided by various FBI / Federal Marshals / SWAT teams and / or the local police. Krishna is also having New Vrindavan's minor aged drug mules arrested; having Laguna Beach temple raided by the FBI and police; having ISKCON sued for fraud in Federal court; having Berkeley temple raided by the police; having Hansadutta arrested with a machine gun; and in sum - Krishna is using His many various and diverse ways of making ISKCON's bogus leaders exposed in so many scandals and crimes in the media; including having ISKCON sued for $400M for child abuse and bankrupted, and having ISKCON basically turned into an empty ghost town and so on.
And now Krishna is clamping down their economy with the virus problem. And Krishna is overall clobbering their living gurus with all sorts of scandals, sickness, madness, fall downs, strokes, virus, mystery ailments, drug addictions, sex porn addictions, and lest we forget -- a number of premature deaths.
Wait! Then these same type devotees are sometimes cursing that "the demons are attacking ISKCON." Nope. You just said you wanted Krishna to clean up your house and its mess? And that is one of the ways He cleans up your mess, He uses His parts and parcels to do that job for Him. And these "parts and parcels of God" have been doing that clean up job all along since 1978 -- for Him?
You folks said you wanted that Krishna should clean this up, and He is doing just as you requested? Now you are upset that Krishna is doing, what you said He should be doing? Hee hee!
Yep! The "regular mundane people" are ALSO parts of Krishna, and they are simply getting a big bucket, mop and plunger and cleaning out your over-flowing toilet mess, because you are refusing to fix it yourself. That is why Srila Prabhupada said, the people who distribute the books also have to read the books themselves.
Allowing a stinky toilet mess to keep flowing all over the house, then all over the neighborhood etc. is NOT -- what Krishna expects or wants His devotees to be doing. So if you want Krishna to clean it up for you, it is going to be way worse than if you would do it yourself, because then He has to employ His big army to invade your house and do your cleaning job for you.
That job should have done by a few of the people inside the house in the first place. It is amazing that these people wanted Krishna to clean up their mess, then they sort of begrudge Krishna when He does their cleaning job for them. We should applaud that He is doing that job for us?
Then again, when one of the problems we are complaining about is mass child molesting, opposing us is simply unconscionable in our opinion. It does not matter if PADA editor is a sahajiya, a trouble maker, or the village drunk. When we try to contain child molesting it is EVERYONE's duty to aid and assist PADA. Same problem we have had with the Nara narayan Visvakarma (NNV) / Pancali / Sanat / Mukunda / Prahlad / HKC Jaipur folks. Sanat knows there is molesting going on "travelling from zone to zone," but he and his pals do not report it to the police. Krishna will fix it.
So then their sex with children guru cult is taken to court, and they are crying that Krishna has had to fix their toilet overflowing mess.
In any case, with all that being said, Vishal das is now on his way to some other situation. Eventually, he is going to figure out that we serve Krishna and not vice versa. We wish him well on his new journey, and God speed spirit soul! ys pd]
GKD: RE Vishal Das (ACBS) Departs In Vrindavan
ReplyDeleteVishal is only the tip of the iceberg, practically hundreds of Prabhupada disciples, former leaders from NA / EU moved to India for good and they know very well why. The GBC has destroyed ISKCON's trustworthiness, reliability, to teach or preach anything. A global governing body commission that appoints fifty God's direct representatives that should be worshiped as good as God to teach the "bogus Christian pseudo religionists that their dead Jesus is humbug worship" was already an affront. But when these fifty God's direct representatives turned out as a clique of cheaters and bloopers then you can only do one thing, vacate the field and never show up again. So basically this is what, Basu Ghosh, Prithu, Panchagauda, Gargamuni, Bhakti Vidya Purna Swami, Pancharatna, etc., etc., know very well, they have destroyed NA and EU and are now hiding in India. As Prabhupada mentions, India is the only place where cheating religionists have a place to stay without being locked up in jail. So they should be directly confronted why they still talk big and not shut up in shame?
[PADA: That is correct. Jayapataka swami, Basu Ghosh, Hari Sauri, Mahanidhi swami, Bhakti Vikas swami, Radhanath swami, Gunagrahi swami, Gargamuni, the Sridhara people, Narayan people, and many others -- have fled the West after they burnt it to toast. Many others like Sivarama are in Soviet states, taking advantage of the ignorance of the history of their gurus. Many have been hiding out in India. My friend just left Alachua saying it is a bedroom community of retired old Prabhupada devotees who only glamorize their life in the 1970s and they have no current preaching life. So it is the same basic problem, they burnt out the West and are hiding out one way or other. The problem for them is, no one can hide from their karma, it is always seen by Krishna and his agents. Anyway, the Prabhupadanuga-ness process is gaining steam, we will win in the end. ys pd]
LD: I agree with GKD. The Prabhupada devotees ... for the most part ... supported the corrupt gurus. Then ... when the proverbial crap-ola hits the fan ... they slink off to parts unknown ... where no one can even find them. Kavicandra swami told a friend he hangs out as far away from them as he can ... to avoid their crap storm.
ReplyDeleteThen Satsvarupa, Ramesvara, Bhagavan, Harikesh, Bhavananda, Hari Sauri, Prabhavishnu, Mukunda swami and most others have been hiding out really ... as well. Where are all these guys? Looks like you're right ... they turned on the toilet leak smell all over the house ... then all over the neighborhood ... and when the crap smell was so bad ... even they had to leave ... then some of them then fled off to India to hide from the smell over there. They don't want to take credit for the crap storm they made.
Then these people really shift blame to Prahbupada and Krishna for their toilet smell mess. The bad element wanted to have Krishna blamed ... so they came out smelling like a rose ... and Krishna ends up smelling badly. And that is what they call "devotional service to Krishna." I like where someone told you ... even if they paid a pro-level "corporate image advertising company" to give Krishna a bad name ... no one could give Krishna such a bad name ... as much as these people did. And they did it all for free ... gave Krishna a bad name for no charge special discount. It is true. They wanted Krishna to have the bad smell all so they could look like innocent saints. They think they can fool Krishna. But Yamaraja knows who wants to make Krishna look like He smells like a sewer pipe ... and themselves look like pretty rose smelling saints. They have no way to fool the higher beings, or Krishna, or Prabhupada. Or us. I agree ... they let all this crap flow all over ISKCON so they could blame their guru and God ... and escape being blamed themselves. Then they go hiding ... after they flood the temple with their sewer pipe smell consciousness. That means ... they have no idea how the laws of God work. I am not angry just ... feel sorry for their lost souls. Now burying evil criminals in samadhi ... to bring their sewer there. It is amazing ... no idea they are committing grave sins.