Hanuman Croatia: Conclusion
See, (Kailash Chandra is) exactly the same process as in ISKCON. No debate, no rational arguments, only Gestapo resolutions. At this point, I am wondering what is the difference between ISKCON and Kailasa Candra.
So, if you want to be a believer in Vaisnava Foundation, you have to believe the following:
All ISKCON gurus are not gurus. They are cheaters and their initiation is bogus.
The only bona fide disciple of Srila Prabhupada is Kailasa Candra, but he is, unfortunately, not giving initiations.
So, ISKCON gurus give bogus initiations, Kailasa Candra is not giving initiations, but If you insinuate that Kailasa Candra does not recognize the importance of diksha, you are out of his “line”.
[PADA: Unfortunately Hanuman Croatia still says the same thing as Kailash: i.e. we cannot initiate people on behalf of Srila Prabhupada. Rather, we have to make pretend conditioned souls: -- can take acharya's worship; can absorb sins like Jesus; should have their feet washed by the matajis; should have big houses, cars and servants; should be worshiped as Krishna loka liberated souls etc., when they are only on the kanistha platform, or less than that.
Actually Hanuman STILL says that persons voted into his homosexual pedophile guru program like GBC Sridhar swami are bona fide gurus. That means Hanuman finds deviants to be his gurus, he cannot even worship the ordinary street trash man who is more elevated than his pedophile guru lineage members. The street trash man is an honest man who would never participate in a pedophile guru process, so Hanuman cannot even find and worship such an honest man.
Thus! Some of the "liberated souls" Hanuman wants us to worship as our gurus are Radhanath's best friends like GBC's Sridhar swami, Bhakti Vikas swami and / or Bhakta das who says Radhanath baba is "a saint." So we STILL have to stay connected to the Radhanath baba program and worship members of the GBC's homosexual and pedophile guru program in order to attain Krishna, according to Hanuman Croatia.
We cannot tell people to worship Srila Prabhupada as the acharya because then "we will be Christians," so let us give our sins to Radhanath baba's pals and they will act like Jesus and take our sins. And let us bury pedophiles in the dham so our children can go there and bow down to the founder fathers of a child raping society, who also were having oral sex with minors etc.
Why do we still need to be tethered to that society, like Hanuman Croatia is, because he is still saying GBC gurus like GBC Sridhar are bona fide? Bona fide because, he is voted into the illicit sex with men, women and children guru parampara - that bans, beats, molests, sues and -- kills us? He worships one of the bigger members of the GBC guru gestapo society, then he complains about others being gestapo?]
So, ISKCON people are religious formalists, at the core of their philosophy is a Christian idea that by receiving initiation from ISKCON guru, you are “saved”, just like in the Christian baptism. On the contrary, Srila Prabhupada explains that initiation is worthless if you don’t actually receive transcendental knowledge from the guru.
So, ISKCON people are religious formalists, at the core of their philosophy is a Christian idea that by receiving initiation from ISKCON guru, you are “saved”, just like in the Christian baptism. On the contrary, Srila Prabhupada explains that initiation is worthless if you don’t actually receive transcendental knowledge from the guru.
[PADA: And who is "the guru" according to Hanuman Croatia? Tamal's big friend Sridhar swami, also one of the biggest promoters (and boot lickers of) Radhanath baba. Did I forget to mention, Sridhara swami is departed. Hanuman is thus worshiping a departed person, just like the Christians also worship a so-called departed person; just like us Prabhupadanugas also worship a so-called departed person. He is doing what we are doing, except his departed person is a member of the oral sex with Taxi drivers in the dham parampara, oral sex with minors parampara, burying pornography swamis in the dham parampara, and we are not.
So we cannot worship a departed person, unless that person is a member of the illicit sex with men, women and children (and maybe goats?), drunks, porno swamis, orchestrators of murders -- Hanuman "guru parampara"? Hypocrisy. Which is why Jesus says, "oh ye hypocrites, sons of vipers."]
Kailasa Candra is also a religious formalist because he believes that ISKCON initiation is the “work of the devil” and if you were ever initiated in ISKCON, you have to reject this initiation otherwise you are going to hell.
[PADA: There is no initiation when the guru is bogus. Initiation means to receive divyam jnanam that destroys sins, and unless that occurs, there is no factual connection to Krishna being made. Our people are being connected factually because they are being told to listen to the pure devotee, as such they are getting the divyam jnanam that destroys sins.
Kailasa Candra is also a religious formalist because he believes that ISKCON initiation is the “work of the devil” and if you were ever initiated in ISKCON, you have to reject this initiation otherwise you are going to hell.
[PADA: There is no initiation when the guru is bogus. Initiation means to receive divyam jnanam that destroys sins, and unless that occurs, there is no factual connection to Krishna being made. Our people are being connected factually because they are being told to listen to the pure devotee, as such they are getting the divyam jnanam that destroys sins.
We have a path for people to be connected, so we are the people giving actual diksha aka diivyam jnanam that destroys sins. Worshiping a member of the homosexual pedophile guru program like Hanuman does is not a source of knowledge, it is a source of foolishness and cheating. So we tell people to consider that their GBC guru was supposed to initiate on behalf of Srila Prabhupada, so just keep your initiated name but convert your worship over to the pure devotee and reject worship of the pedophile messiah's club.]
Both ideas are ridiculous. Both ISKCON people and Kailasa Candra actually display mayavadi tendencies. A mayavadi way of thinking is that all living entities are created in batches: “I and my followers have to think in exactly the same way, we are all one.” If you think differently from me, even a 1% difference, you will be kicked out. Both ISKCON and Kailasa Candra are trying to create mental clones that think in a 100% same way as their master.
If we want to make progress on the path of Krishna consciousness, we have to understand that Krishna created all living entities differently. This is His supreme power. Thus, no two living entities will think in the exactly same way. Therefore, religious leaders must understand that there will never be a time where everybody will think in the exactly same way.
Instead of being happy that people chant Hare Krishna and read Srila Prabhupada’s books, Gestapo authorities always want to make everybody think exactly as their being told, which will never be possible.
The great decoupling
I personally don’t want to be associated with anti-intellectual foundations, individuals, or organizations. And I expect people who attend my weekly meetings to be rational, to understand that nobody will ever agree with you on 100% of philosophical topics. So, fundamentalist rtviks, Vaisnava foundation members, ISKCON GBC blind believers, none of those people are welcome to my weekly meetings. They are simply boring people, they can discuss philosophy amongst themselves.
[PADA: Well hee hee, we told Hanuman that Bhakti Vikas swami is bogus and Kailash is bogus and so on and so forth a long time ago. He is just catching up in stages. He is still a complete Mayavada because he cannot identify the guru who is giving divyam jnaman that destroys sins.
I personally don’t want to be associated with anti-intellectual foundations, individuals, or organizations. And I expect people who attend my weekly meetings to be rational, to understand that nobody will ever agree with you on 100% of philosophical topics. So, fundamentalist rtviks, Vaisnava foundation members, ISKCON GBC blind believers, none of those people are welcome to my weekly meetings. They are simply boring people, they can discuss philosophy amongst themselves.
[PADA: Well hee hee, we told Hanuman that Bhakti Vikas swami is bogus and Kailash is bogus and so on and so forth a long time ago. He is just catching up in stages. He is still a complete Mayavada because he cannot identify the guru who is giving divyam jnaman that destroys sins.
He has no bona fide guru, so he sticks with Radhanath baba's best friends and he wants us to stay with his homosexual pedophile's guru process. Hanuman Croatia has no idea, Sridhara is also bogus because he was voted into a guru parampara by the same people who reinstate sex with taxi drivers in the dham as their Vishnupada acharya. He has no idea this whole process is bogus, as is anyone who participates.
Anyway he is right, Kailash is bogus because Kailash thinks we are going to not have any initiated people to do the pooja in the temples, so there will be no one there to serve Krishna. He is a mayavada. ys pd]
Kailash Chandra: The Guru of Nothing
pada / angel108b@yahoo.com
Dear PADA: Consider this: "INITIATION IS A FORMALITY. IF YOU ARE SERIOUS, THAT IS REAL INITIATION "
ReplyDelete"You have to decide for yourself whether you are going to take this Krsna consciousness seriously. That is your decision. Initiation is a formality. If you are serious, that is real initiation...My touch is simply a formality. It is your determination. That is initiation."
- (Srila Prabhupada, Back to Godhead, # 49)
GK -- Dear PADA: The divisions among the Vaishnava groups deepen on social media. For decades it is all about what is genuine guru-tattva. And of course lack of sadhana. Everybody lives in his own home and bodily identification is the normal. Actually, Prabhupada's formula was to pull devotees out of their homely comfort zone and wanted devotees to live in the temple to become fixed up, detached from bodily identification.
ReplyDeleteMany temples had forty or fifty devotees living there and practicing strong sadhana. As soon a temple was flourishing a farm was opened and the farms also became congested with devotees. The whole dynamics of spreading into every town and village could only be stopped by infiltrators within the management.
So actually Prabhupada's program is to constantly train new devotees, open new temples and farms, work everyday from 4am to 10pm. So as things look right now this will not happen again so soon. Hanuman will eventually figure that Vaishnavism is rotten because gurus in kali-yuga are the problem and quit. So the Vaishnava congregations have been fooled by all these phony gurus who simply create camps for eating and sleeping instead of working cooperatively. The preaching of bhagavata-dharma is lost.
[PADA: Yes. Hanuman is simply another person who is trying to make an independent camp to exploit the situation. He first of all banned people who criticized Bhakti Vikas. Then he said BVKS is just a GBC puppet. Then he said we all need to listen to Kailash. Now he says Kailash is a Gestapo.
Meanwhile, he wants everyone to worship sex with taxi drivers parampara Sridhara swami, who is also a Radhanath boot kisser. And he says anyone who is a Radhanath boot kisser is supporting a Sulochan murder assistant. So he is actually just trying to make all sorts of contradictions -- to fool people that he has the only good idea, but his idea changes every week.
He keeps changing the goal posts, so his real aim seems to be -- to create havoc and not make any solution. And other crap stirring disturbance as one devotee says of Hanuman. He will never build a movement based on worship of GBC and Sridhar swami and the other Radhanath club members like BVKS, everyone is rejecting that club wholesale. He does not know the party is over yet. He is simply trying to stop people from worship of the pure devotee with endless scams, that is all, he is envious that people are worshiping a pure devotee and not his Sridhar / Radhanath baba program. ys pd