What about the children?
THE INSTITUTION CAN BURN TO THE GROUND!
The main thing is self-realization - not this institutional -- that goes down! “We do this because of the institution!” Where’s the self-realisation? To hell with the institution! Self-realization will birth a million institutions. And you know what? An institution will not birth one child of self-realization EVER! Think about it!
The institution could burn to the ground, but if we can save the knowledge and the devotees, a glorious thing will continue to grow and will rise from the ashes like a phoenix. But if you destroy the siddhānta, the institution can never reproduce pure devotion. It doesn’t exist.
[PADA: I find it somewhat amazing that Sridhara Maharaja and BG Narasingha folks can endorse their illicit sex with men, women and children guru parampara systems, and then essentially tell their victims -- who are suffering inside their bogus and bad process -- they can just go to hell. Sridhara Maharaja also said that the GBC can "dig their own graves" and so on and so forth.
So the devotees are being banned, beaten, molested, sued, and and assassinated by the bogus guru programs endorsed by Sridhara Maharaja and BG Narasingha et al., and -- who cares? Let them all go to hell.
And when children are being mass molested etc. "so what" "let the leaders dig their own graves (and take the children with them into their graves)." There just seems to be all iron fist here, and no mercy whatever. We are going to endorse Joseph Stalin as our messiah, and when victims of our program are being starved, beaten, jailed, raped, murdered -- who cares? 750,000 people are being executed because of us promoting this guy, so what? Let them all -- burn in hell.
It is amazing how badly these people misunderstand karma. The people who supported Stalin -- then had to suffer the karma -- of supporting him. We cannot support violent pedophile guru cults, then tell the victims so what, they can all go to hell. Where is the compassion? Where is the responsibility? Accountability? Remorse? There is evidently, none.
A guy drives a car into the crowded market and kills 20 people, then he says -- so what? Let everyone go to hell? And that is why the judge gives this guy more years in jail. He has no remorse. And the Sridhara people will also get more time in Yamadutta land for the same reason. They just stomp jackboots on their victims like there is no problem victimizing other beings -- who are part of Krishna. Krishna will never approve of this attitude.
Yes, let us endorse a child molester guru cult, and when the children are crying in pain and suffering, so what, "let the leaders dig their own graves -- and take these kids along into their graves"? Astonishing heartlessness!
This is how cult think goes on, the cult is authorized to administer pain to others, wait, so the institution survives? Sridhara Maharaja essentially said we have to support the false gurus TO SAVE THE INSTITUTION, and Gaura Govinda Maharaja said the same thing. They are saying the institution is not important, but then they will toss children into a wood chipper, to save their bogus institution? This is hypocrisy on steroids. ys pd]
LD: Nothing new here. They all said the same thing. "We need to worship the 11 to keep ISKCON's house unified. We need to preserve the movement ... by following the GBC, otherwise it will fail."
ReplyDeleteThen ... of course the crapola hits the fan ... ho ho ho ... funny joke ... let the devotees all burn in hell. Who cares for them? We never liked these bogus institutions anyway. Who needs that?
It is amazing. They pour petrol on the fire ... then say ... see ... institutions burn down anyway. Not our fault! What about all the people you burned up too? Not worthy of mention ... not important enough to get ... even honorable mention.
You are right ... they cause the mission to collapse ... then justify that saying ... institutions are crap anyway. What about all the people you also burned to the ground? They make a hell fire ... patala loka bogus cult ... then say ... it is the way of all religions. No ... it is the way of your bogus religion and your bogus guru cult.
This is like a person who breaks something ... tries to fix the thing he broke ... gets frustrated ... then tosses the whole thing into the trash and says ... we did not need this thing anyway. Why did you break it in the first place? Maybe someone else needed it? All religions are bogus ... it is real sour grapes. They ruin this religion then try to justify by saying ... all religion institutions are bogus. They can be bogus ... if we have your bogus guru ideas ... running the institution ...
M Dasi: Have to admit ... I also do not get their idea. Srila Prabhupada makes an institution. Then ... burn down the institution by making fools into gurus. And that means ... burn up the devotees alive ... inside the institution ... which is no bother since we are simply collateral damage. That is because we must burn down the institution for the "higher good" ... of making fools into gurus. How many times people told me ... this is all for "the higher good of preaching"? Preaching what?
ReplyDeleteAnd if some of the people being burned alive in the institution fire are children ... who cares? It is "their karma" to have us pouring flammable liquids on the fire. No ... I do not get it. How are these people "authorized" to burn down the institution ... made by Krishna's representative? Where did Krishna tell them to destroy the institution and burn it down ... when He is being worshiped there?
And what happens to us who are left ... without any institution? This is heartless and cruel. Don't ask me ... I would say diabolical ... and Satanic. We are going to get very, very bad karma if we burn down Krishna's institution ... where Krishna is being worshiped. Krishna sends His pure devotee to make ... His worship ... so let us burn down ... what Krishna is making? How does that please Krishna? That is going to make Krishna very, very, very angry. Krishna will be crying at burning down His institution. And anyone who burns down Krishna's mission will also be crying ... and for many centuries of time. This is horrible! The only nice thing about this is .. they admit their plan is ... to burn down the work done by the acharya. At least now we know what happened ... and why. At least we survived somehow or other ... but most people died already in their fire.
Srila Prabhupada said ... there was a fire in the Gaudiya Matha ... and Sridhara started that fire. Most of them died in that fire. So let us do ... the same thing ... all over again? This means ... these people knew it would destroy the mission all along ... they wanted to burn it down. Or ... is there any better way to say it?
Here is an interesting and important quote: "Those who think that devotion to God and kindness to living entities are different to each other and act accordingly in their life will not be able to follow devotional culture. Their attempt is only a resemblance of devotion. All types of beneficence to others like kindness, friendliness, forgiveness, charity and respect are included in devotion to God. Giving shelter during adversity, teaching academic and spiritual education, giving charity of medicine, clothes, food and water are activities included in devotional culture." [Srila BhaktivinodaThakura Sri Tattva sutram, 35]
ReplyDelete*** I don't see "burning down Krishna's house and destroying His devotees" listed here? Rather we should treat His devotees with kindness. That is the way I read things. KDD