ISKCON's Child Molesting Imbroglio / and Karma (VIDEO)

 

PADA: Why do children get abused and molested in any society? It is generally because the adults in that society failed to protect their own society's children, especially when we are discussing chronic or mass molesting cases. 

And! It is not really the main issue "if these children have the karma to be molested, or not." As he points out in this video, we cannot argue that to eat hamburgers is bona fide simply because "it is the karma of the cows to be made into hamburgers." Not a relevant point, because we are not the authorized agents of punishing others by dispensing karma to others. The bank may have the karma to be robbed, fine, but if you rob it, you are still a criminal.

Rather, when entangled people -- like us -- start to jump into dispensing punishing karma to others, we just get more entangled ourselves, because we have no authority to dispense evil karma punishments to others. Of course, we also have no authority to claim we are saints who are absorbing others sins and karma either, because that too entangles us. We are little teeny peanuts, and not the masters of removing other's karma, dispensing evil karma etc. 

Sorry! 

"The children are just getting karma" argument does not excuse our exploiting the children, or the cows, or any other living beings -- but especially ISKCON's children. We are still supposed to protect all of the cows anyway, whether they are "Kali Yuga cows" or not. We can not start to justify harming cows "because it is their karma." An ex-devotee here told me exactly that, he was now eating hamburgers because "the cows already had the karma to be made into hamburgers." No! 

OK that is not how it works, we are still responsible for harming others -- even if it is their karma to be harmed -- because we are not the authorized agents to dish out "bad karma" to other beings. Thus, child molesting was going on evidently left, right and center in and around ISKCON, sometimes using the excuse "the children had the karma to be abused." And according to one of the ex-victims, "it was going on 'in every nook and cranny of the society, so we (victims) had nowhere to hide.'" 

So that simply means, the ISKCON leaders / elders / seniors / oversight committees / watchdogs / overseers, i.e. the leaders and the senior elders of the society, did not take proper action to counteract this problem. Many of them evidently knew there was a problem, among many other problems, and they did not act to counter these problems. That is more or less self evident. And WORSE, many ISKCON citizens -- or maybe even most of them, opposed people like me and Sulochana when we reported that there is a child abuse problem. 

However, one thing most devotees know from the Bhagavad Gita is: one becomes what one worships. People who worship the forefathers go -- to be with them; those who worship demigods go -- to be with them; those who worship ghosts, businessmen, dictators or whatever it is -- become one of them, or become like them. So when a society worships sexual predators / homosexuals / if not pedophiles and criminals, then of course, the result will be that that influence will creep into "every nook and corner." "You will become what you worship," either individually or as a society. 

Indeed! "We become what we worship" is a square one, point "A" understanding of the Krishna religion. So what happens when ISKCON promotes the worship of deviants? No surprise! Then that influence will spread -- to every nook and cranny -- self evidently? 

And the (no surprise?) result of that influence is: ISKCON will attract deviants, defend deviants, aid and abet deviants, justify deviants, advocate for deviants, apologize for deviants, and potentially ban, beat, sue and kill those who oppose their infrastructure of glorifying and worshiping deviants. Again, no surprise since we become what we worship, individually and collectively.

Now when it comes to ISKCON's children, why would it be their "bad karma" to be trained to worship deviants, molesters, sexual predators, drunks, criminals and so on as their "eternal guru links to Krishna"? Srila Prabhupada said the demigods are waiting to take birth in ISKCON, ummm wait, so they can worship deviants? That is not what he said. He said everyone in ISKCON has to worship the pure devotee, whether men, women or children. Indeed the whole world has to worship pure devotees if it wants to be saved. Whereas worship of illicit sex with men, women and children, that will not save anyone anywhere.

Yet, the GBC and their position paper writing help mates like Sridhara Maharaja, Narayan Maharaja, Gaura Govinda Maharaja etc. created a policy where the children of ISKCON would now worship deviants as their gurus / acharyas / messiahs.  And the children of ISKCON were basically forced into a sort of tyrant's "death march" to do that, because -- as children -- they had no means to defend themselves -- or to counteract the situation -- or to escape -- as a number of victims recounted to me personally. 

The children were fully dependent on the situation being given to them by the leaders and adults of the society. That means the leaders and elders are responsible for the abuse, because the children were basically totally dependent on the situation they were being handed. In short, it does not matter what the children's karma is or isn't, just like it does not matter what the cow's karma is or isn't, no one is allowed to have a dependent abused, whether it is animals or human children.    

When the GBC wanted to get rid of the founder father of the illicit sex with men, women and children guru parampara (Tamal Krishna) and his cheer leader (Narayan Maharaja) at that time Gaura Govinda Maharaja stood up at the GBC meeting and insisted they -- KEEP Tamal. At that exact same time, I was busy collating testimony from ex-gurukula victims on the severe abuse they had experienced. We need to keep the orchestrators of homosexual pedophile guru programs that are starving, beating, abusing and molesting kids -- causing some of them to commit suicide. For what? Why would we want to keep this element, unless we are compromised with it, or worse -- we agree with it? 

This begs the question, why do we need to KEEP the people who are orchestrating the worship of deviants / if not child abuse regime? 

We need to have ISKCON children worship illicit sex with men, women and children false gurus -- to attain God? OK the adults who orchestrated this situation are the main persons involved in "the karma" of all this. It is their karma primarily -- for generating this whole process. 

In karma outcomes, there is generally the oppressor and the oppressed, and in this case -- the leaders and adults are somewhat self evidently the oppressors. And that means they are the ones who are generating bad karma primarily, and severely bad karma, for themselves. They will be judged for their crime of orchestrating worship of deviants -- for children. They are already being judged, which is why their society is floundering and disintegrating, and many of the exponents of this system are dying left, right and center of cancer and etc.

And the situation has not yet even been fixed. The children of ISKCON are still being told they have to worship the GBC's illicit sex with men, women and children guru parampara. So they are still generating karma for themselves. A number of the children then rejected the religion, many ran off to Tamal's boot licker Narayan Maharaja, some of them around here -- eat meat and etc. So, they are the victims. And it is quite natural that they would be alienated from the religion, that happens in other institutions where there is abuse.   

When I talked to Gaura Govinda Maharaja on these topics he told me my idea to have the devotees worship the pure devotee "is not found in shastra." Yep, we need to have the devotees (and their ISKCON children) worship the GBC's illicit sex with men, women and children guru parampara and in sum -- persons who are "material and nothing more" according to GGM. 

Why? Because worship of pure devotees is not found in shastra? We need to worship deviants instead?

And that is what we find in shastra? 

Srila Prabhupada's Children need to worship debauchees and deviants or else "the organization will collapse." Wow, so it is not only worship of deviants, it is "an organization" of the worship of debauchees and sexual predators etc. And that is what we want -- for Krishna's children? 

Where is this found in shastra? 

    

ISKCON's children should worship that which is

MATERIAL AND NOTHING ELSE? 

Anyway, for historical record:

*** The leaders ordered the children to worship known conditioned souls if not deviants as their gurus, and as their "eternal links to Krishna." And yet the leaders for the most part knew these gurus were bogus and not actually links to Krishna (as Gaura Govinda Maharaja admits), but they could fool a few people LIKE ISKCON's CHILDREN into worshiping these deviants. 

The leaders EXPLOITED the ignorance of LITTLE KIDS, to coerce them to worship deviants. Who created the "karma" by being responsible for that? Really, almost anyone who was an adult in the situation. 

The kids are thus NOT responsible for creating that environment, they are victims. And the general public was ALSO told to worship the GBC's debauchee guru's process, they too had no input into that process, they too are victims. And the kids and the general public rejected the religion as a result.

*** So it is "the karma" of the leaders that they generated this mess. The "eternal links to Krishna" placed known homosexuals and deviants into the guru seat, and propped them up and protected them, and even reinstated some of them after a weak attempt to censure them. 

Meanwhile, molesting was going on left, right and center because evidently the core group deviants brought in other predators to act as teachers, administrators and so on, and they kicked those of us who dissented out the door. And then, funds meant to feed and care for the kids started going instead to support opulent jet set lives for the leaders. And most of us knew that was happening because we could see their fancy lifestyles going on right in front of us.

*** The GBC has subsequently buried known sexual predators and porno watching swamis in samadhis, in addition to burying the founder father of the pedophile messiahs club (Tamal) in a samadhi.

*** The children of ISKCON are still being told that homosexual pedophiles are saints fit to be in a samadhi, even today.

*** And just after we announced the child abuse problem was causing suicides of victims, then Naranayan das Visvakarma (NNV aka Nathan Zakheim) started a club to attack me, getting his allies like the Sanat / Mukunda / Prahlad / HKC Jaipur types to complain "PADA is a sahajiya program." Wow, so the big tough men are trying to stop me from addressing child rapes and suicides, because only the "gopi rasika sahajiyas" know that child rapes and suicides is -- a wrong headed policy?  

NNV even said that his child raping pals are "the golden body of ISKCON, and PADA is attacking the golden body of ISKCON." Then they starting saying, well not too many kids are dying of suicide, doing a sort of body count to see how much blood has to be spilled before they agree this is a problem. 

Only the sahajiyas know that child rape is -- sinful and wrong -- the big tough men are attacking us sahajiyas, to defend their child raping process? What difference does it make if I am a sahajiya or not? Child rape is a crime, allowing child suicide is unconscionable, why are the sahajiyas the only people who know that this is a wrong headed policy? 

So this has been simply another attempt to defend their child raping program, and so it was not only the GBC leaders / some elder leaders / who were implicated, the child raping program had many allies, hand maidens, assistants, cheer leaders, legal defense teams, shastra advisors like Sridhara Maharaja, Narayan Maharaja, and etc. So it is their "bad karma" for being the direct or de facto advocates for this process. Children are their VICTIMS.

And it is our good karma to have at least said, hey a child raping guru program is bogus. And it is the good karma of the karmi police, FBI, media and others who helped us along the way, to have helped us.

To sum! Srila Prabhupada wanted the children of ISKCON, and indeed ALL of the CITIZENS of planet earth to worship Krishna via media His pure devotee. He never said we have to worship illicit sex with men, women and children to attain Krishna. So his orders were CHANGED, and everyone who changed these orders is implicated in the karma of the results, i.e. many of the children were molested and the ISKCON society went into the tank in public opinion, and went bankrupted. 

That has nothing to do with the karma of the children who were born into ISKCON. They had the original karma to worship the pure devotee and Krishna, and then the motivated and evil adults CHANGED their karma, and gave them a horrific alternate to worship of the pure devotee. All of the adults who created and abetted that process now have the karma of changing the karma of the children who should have worshiped a pure devotee, and they changed the children's karma to force and coerce them to worship of their debauchee's guru program.   

That means, the main karma reaction and GUILT and RESPONSIBILITY lies with the adults, and NOT THE CHILDREN. They are the VICTIMS of what the adults crammed down their throats. As are the public who had these bogus gurus crammed down their throats, and that was not the intent or order of the acharya. He told us to continue the worship of the pure devotee or there will be havoc, and we see first hand what that havoc is. ys pd